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DFA New Haven: Meeting Recap and Upcoming Events

Written by: Justin Paglino on May 9, 2008 6:46 AM EDT

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Dear DFA New Haven,

Thanks for those who came to Wall Street Pizza on Wednesday, I was happy to see our attendance breaking back into double digits!  I hope we are able to continue to build on this momentum by inviting a new speaker every month.  If we can get a dozen + people every month, I think that would be a track record good enough to lure some bigger name speakers such as Richard Blumenthal, Rosa DeLauro, and Phil in the Blank.

Our speaker on Wednesday - Stephanie Farber - gave an excellent account of the Hilltop Brigade -

http://www.hilltopbrigade.com

This group already has an email list of SEVEN HUNDRED people from our district who are willing to travel to adjacent congressional districts to canvass for Jim Himes, Joe Courtney, and Chris Murphy, would you like to join them?

If you volunteer - they ask for 3 Saturdays of your time - the Saturday before the election (Nov 1), and 2 of the 4 previous Saturdays (Oct 4, 11, 18, 25).

On these three Saturdays you will go canvassing - the most effective political tool in the book - under the guidance and direction of a team captain - who works with the campaign field director to make the whole process go smoothly as possible - and can give you whatever assistance and support you need.  In 2006 this organization proved very effective.  Joe Courtney - who won by less than 100 votes - might not be a CT congressmen without the Hilltop Brigade! 

The Hilltop Brigade also wants you to recruit your friends by hosting house parties.  The Hilltop Brigade has many connections - and promises to provide a speaker to your party - in order to draw a crowd.

If you choose not to volunteer as an individual, perhaps you would like to come out on October 11th, when DFA New Haven will volunteer en masse for the Hilltop Brigade - we can all be on the same team! - More on this event later.

Go to their website to sign up to volunteer now:

http://www.hilltopbrigade.com

I hope the meeting was enjoyed by all, stay tuned to see who we are able to line up for next month -and please suggest any names for speakers that you can think of!

UPCOMING EVENTS IN GREATER NEW HAVEN:

BARACK OBAMA: *National voter Registration and Mobilization Kick-Off:*  On May 10th, join
Ned Lamont and other invited guests, including the Greater Hartford Progressive Democratic Women Club, Literacy Volunteers of Greater Hartford, and the New Britain and Greater Hartford NAACP chapters, as we launch Connecticut's voter registration and mobilization drive.  Here are the details:

*When:*  Saturday May 10th

*Time: * 2:00 - 6:00 PM

*Where:*  Pope Park Recreation Center, 30 Pope Park Drive, Hartford CT

*Guest speaker:  *Ned Lamont

*Voter Registration Training: * Olga Iris Velazquez
Following a brief meeting and voter registration training at 2:00 PM, we will head out into the neighborhood to register voters.  At 5:00 PM, we will return to tally and turn in our results, share a pot luck meal and discuss ways to continue our efforts over the coming months.

Sign up online at

http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/voterregistrationdriveofficialevent/4mrm

CONVENTION FOR U.S. Rep. ROSA DELAURO – MONDAY MAY 12, 6pm
Where: East Haven High School Auditorium - 35 Wheelbarrow Lane, East Haven

Rosa showed up for us, now let’s show up for Rosa!  See other 3rd CD friends! Wear Obama gear! Refreshments afterward!

 http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/4kdt

Book Tour: David Sirota

CCAG to co-sponsor book signing event for the release of David Sirota's latest book, The Uprising: An Unauthorized Tour of the Populist Revolt Scaring Wall Street & Washington.

Location: R.J. Julia Booksellers, 768 Boston Post Road, Madison, CT (directions here). Contact R.J. Julia at 800-747-3237 or via email at books@rjjulia.com

http://www.ccag.net/node/328

Madison, CT - Wednesday, May 28, 7:00pm: R.J. Julia Bookseller

THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO,

YOU HAVE THE POWER!

-Justin Paglino

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- Dean is first!

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 9:36 AM EDT
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- In F.E.C. Moves, Some See Effort to Aid McCain

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 9:38 AM EDT
In F.E.C. Moves, Some See Effort to Aid McCain

For months, the White House and Senate Republicans have been content to let a political impasse over vacancies at the Federal Election Commission persist, sidelining the regulatory agency in the throes of a heated presidential campaign.

Senator John McCain greeted New York firefighters at the Engine Company 54 and Ladder Company 4 firehouse on Thursday. He was said to be devoting attention to concerns at the F.E.C.

But on Tuesday, President Bush suddenly announced three new nominees to the commission. He also backed away from Republicans’ insistence that the nomination of Hans von Spakovsky, a former Justice Department official who faces vigorous opposition from Democrats, be voted upon with other nominees to the commission.

The reason for the about-face? ...
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- Roy Carter Victory Speech

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 9:43 AM EDT
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- VIDEO

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 9:45 AM EDT
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- Join the campaign

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
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- Please contribute

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 9:53 AM EDT
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- welcome back, Susan

By mary vb on May 9, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
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- My Father-In-Law

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 10:55 AM EDT

http://www.legacy.com/heraldbulletin/Obituaries.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=108934968

      Jimmie E. Rowe    
<!-- Fullname = Jimmie E Rowe -->May 23, 1931 – May 1, 2008

ANDERSON — Jimmie E. Rowe, 76, of Anderson, died May 1, 2008, following an extended illness.

Jimmie was born May 23, 1931, in Cass, Ind., and resided in Anderson most of his life.

Following graduation in 1951 from Anderson High School, he spent four years in the Air Force. He was stationed at Selfridge Air Force Base in Mount Clemens, Mich., where he served as an excellent cook (and when off duty was an outstanding hockey player).

Jimmie was a retired, 47-year employee of Delco Remy in Anderson.

He had a wonderful singing voice and was quite comfortable entertaining others with the gift for storytelling he inherited from his father.

He was a member of St. Mary’s and St. Ambrose parishes, Knights of Columbus and UAW Local 662.

Jimmie was a devoted husband and beloved father.

He loved sports, especially basketball, and spent many years volunteering his time to coach intramural basketball for the fifth- and sixth-graders at St. Mary’s School.

Survivors include his wife of 53 years, Mary June (Baker) Rowe, who has also been a resident of Anderson most of her life; their son, Michael E. Rowe and daughter-in-law, Susan M. (Smith) Rowe, who reside in Coarsegold, Calif.; brother, Robert L. Rowe of Anderson; cousins of various degree; and numerous nieces and nephews.

Jimmie was preceded in death by his parents, Delphia Rowe (in 1966) and James O. Rowe (in 1988), who spent most of their adult lives in Anderson; and his sister, Virginia M. Smith of Lapel.

Services will be held at 2 p.m. Tuesday at Brown-Butz-Diedring Funeral Home, 515 E. 53rd St., Anderson, officiated by Father Robert Williams; concluding with interment at East Maplewood Cemetery.

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- Record voter turn out

By Susan Rowe on May 9, 2008 11:56 AM EDT

http://www.heraldbulletin.com/Election/local_story_128155859.html?start:int=0

MADISON COUNTY (Indiana) VOTER TURNOUT

This year’s primary brought out the largest percentage of registered voters in Madison County since 1990. Presidential primaries were in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004 and 2008.

1990: 41%

1992: 37%

1994: 29%

1996: 35%

1998: 24%

2000: 23%

2002: 30%

2004: 25%

2006: 25%

2008: 43%

 

Tuesday voter turnout from nearby counties

Delaware: 41%

Grant: 36%

Hamilton: 46%

Hancock: 42%

Henry: 50%

Howard: 39%

Marion: 36%

Tipton: 42%

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- Thinking of You lindab

By Denise in San Mateo County on May 9, 2008 10:04 AM EDT

And be safe with those storms heading your way!

Some guy shot some incredibly clear footage of a tornado that is on the news today.

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- So Obama Pulls Ahead

By Denise in San Mateo County on May 9, 2008 10:10 AM EDT

Nice to see the warm welcome he received yesterday when he returned to Washington.

History in the making. And I'm history, too - TGIF.

Later :)

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- New KOS diary on USAF and nuclear energy

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
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- s/b Pulls Ahead with SD's.....technicalities ;)

By Denise in San Mateo County on May 9, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
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- I don't like the tenor of these requests.

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 10:19 AM EDT

I do not want to "hit" or "beat" or "target" political candidates.  Besides, I don't think McCain will be the Republican nominee and am looking for a September Surprise.  Republicans are averse to long campaigns since they aren't keen on a lot of citizen input to begin with.  That, I suspect, is why the others left the field and decided to let the "maverick" run around the country and run off his mouth.  Meanwhile, Huckabee is stealthily collecting money, making speeches and coming in second without campaigning.

 

We are hitting John McCain where it hurts. Our goal is to expose McCain as the special interest hypocrite he has become. Our plan starts with running aggressive ads tomorrow in the next primary state - West Virginia - unmasking the McCain myth.
With your support, we will target the same voters who John McCain thinks are crucial to Republican victory in November.
Now is the time to act. Be a part of the team that beats McCain. Contribute $50 today.
https://democracyforamerica.com/contribute/mccain
The first ad will expose McCain's gas tax for the worthless gimmick that it is. $30 for you, $11 billion for Exxon-Mobil.
Our people-powered campaign will target the same voting bloc McCain is targeting with revealing ads on drive time and sports radio starting tomorrow. This is only the beginning. The more DFA members take action, the faster we can escalate the attack.
With grassroots donors behind us, we will unmask the McCain myth and show voters that this fraud does not belong in the White House.
Your $50 makes the difference. Help DFA get this ad on the air.
https://democracyforamerica.com/contribute/mccain
Thank you for putting your contribution into action.
-Rachel
Rachel Moss
Finance Director

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By Huron John on May 9, 2008 10:28 AM EDT

Grabbing Toolbar

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- Doesn't matter who's second ~~

By puddle on May 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT

Republicans are winner take all.

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- True--but when John's health suddenly deteriorates.........

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
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- Congratulations to DFA New Haven

By Patrick Briggs on May 9, 2008 10:34 AM EDT

Justin, nice job keeping your chapter going and yes, having a speaker come in is one way to keep the group attendance up.  It helps with giving the group focus.  We usually try have the speaker be relevant to an action in the community we can do....as you seem to have with the Hill Top Brigade. 

Our group in Pasadena, CA sometimes struggles with attendance at our meetings.  Oftentimes it's the steering committee plus 5 or 6 members.  We have a 264 member DFA Link list but activating 10 % of them is a challenge.

http://democracyforamerica.com/groups/385-dfa-pasadena

Something else we are making a regular effort on is doing blog postings (with pics) of our actions or meetings when they're worth it.  We then send out a message to our membership with a link to the blog.  We are hoping that our membership seeing our regular actions might be drawn to attend a future one. 

We intend on trying to call members ahead of our chapter meetings to remind them more directly.  We've done it once.  Probably it's going to have to become a habit to become effective.

I could go on.  The important thing is that our chapter should be working with active chapters like yours.  Talking, emailing and networking with other active chapters to learn from each other and well....develop our own national sense of community.  No chapter need be alone so to speak.

I'm going to encourage our leadership to regularly check Blog for America and look for good postings like yours from other chapters and leave comments and develop friendships online towards this end.

If you feel like it, shoot me an email or call - pbriggs@greeneggsandham.org - 626-296-1607 . It would be great to hear more about your group's story and what you have planned.

Best Regards,

Patrick Briggs,
Pasadena DFA Chapter Coordinator

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- Driving by again to say...

By Annilow on May 9, 2008 10:40 AM EDT

...I ain't giving any more than my $25 to Mr. Obama till he tells us up front that he is not paying off Clinton, b/c paying off Clinton is paying off Penn, Begala, Carville, and all those other leeches that feed on the blood of politicians, not to mention paying back her sizable fortune.

 

Thomas B. Edsall

The Huffington Post

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Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan to help Clinton Pay Debt

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- Sorry for the chicklets -- just another mystery

By Annilow on May 9, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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- Annilow

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 10:44 AM EDT

Obama has gotten my last dollar if Penn gets a penny of it.

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By seashell on May 9, 2008 10:45 AM EDT

Why would BO want to help HC pay off her campaign debts (with BO supporters money) unless he wants her as his running mate; which I think is the best idea to beat Huck/Rice. Or is the deal that her debt is paid off and she leaves the race? Just guessing.

Huck is very likeable, brings in the RW religious vote and the sleepwalkers who want to have a beer with him... and Condi...well, black AND a woman.

A Huck/Rice tickie would likely be unbeatable, and prolly further split the country race and gender wise.

It's a mess. Only the dems could have done this...eating their own.

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Thank you, Judy, for the articles. I've taken heat here on the blog for standing up for the Palestinians and been called anti-semitic. People here in Buenos Aires are not fond of Israel to put it mildly. They see Israel and the US are being bullies and identical in their lust for power, land and resources.

I just wish all Americans could live or travel abroad and open their hearts and minds.
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Off to have a facial - very cheap here. :-)
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Why is Howard doing BO's work for him? BO needs to be out there slamming away. Howard's acting more like the nominee than BO is.

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By puddle on May 9, 2008 11:09 AM EDT

China hates Israel, too.

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- Anyone needing a ride to Demfest

By TeaTimeTim on May 9, 2008 10:50 AM EDT

Hey, if anyone hears someone who needs a ride to Demfest in Penn, eastern Ohio, Maryland.. Let me know. I"m will to car pool as I'm driving room for 3 more.

 

 

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- West Virginia

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 10:56 AM EDT

http://dailymail.com/News/election08/200805090053

Friday May 9, 2008

Obama in talks to meet with Charleston group before primary
Daily Mail Capitol Reporter 

Sen. Barack Obama is in talks to make an appearance at the Charleston Rotary Club's next meeting, Rotary officials said.

Plans have not been finalized, but Obama, the Democratic presidential frontrunner, is considering speaking at the club's meeting at the Charleston Civic Center, which begins at noon Monday, Rotary president-elect Todd Goldman said.

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- Hi Justin

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 10:57 AM EDT

Good news : I'll see you at the booksigning.

Bad ( but old ) news : I was chased out of N.H. DFA by the previous powers that existed there - the same ones who ultimately left, complaining that you had turned the N.H. local into a Lamont "fan club" - lol. Good riddance to "Missy" and her crowd.

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- Oregon

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 10:59 AM EDT

up on deck for today and tomorrow in OR:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/albanytownhall/

Town Hall Meeting with Barack Obama

Linn County Fair and Expo Center
Willamette Events Center
3700 Knox Butte Rd
Albany, OR

Friday, May 9th
Doors open: 1:45 p.m.
Program begins: 3:30 p.m.

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http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/eugenerally

Rally with Barack Obama in Eugene

University of Oregon -- Memorial Quad
East 13th Avenue
Between University St. and Kincaid St.
Eugene, OR

Friday, May 9th, 2008
Doors open: 5:45 p.m.

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http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/bend/

Town Hall Meeting with Barack Obama

Summit High School
2855 NW Clearwater Dr.
Bend, OR 97701

Saturday, May 10th
Doors open: 9:30 a.m.
Program begins: 11:30 a.m.

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- Kentucky

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 11:02 AM EDT

http://www.kentucky.com/471/story/400109.html

Posted on Fri, May. 09, 2008

 

Obama planning visit to Kentucky as primary nears

The Associated Press

 

LOUISVILLE, Ky. --

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign says the Democrat will be in Kentucky next week as the state's primary nears.

 

It will be the third trip to the state for Obama,

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By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 11:02 AM EDT

Why is Howard doing BO's work for him? BO needs to be out there slamming away. Howard's acting more like the nominee than BO is.

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Howard did MUCH more of the heavy lifting for John Kerry than he will have to for Obama.

 

Obama is already responding to McCain's attacks - something Kerry missed the "swift" boat on.

 

 

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- Hey TTT.

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 11:07 AM EDT

Hey, if anyone hears someone who needs a ride to Demfest in Penn, eastern Ohio, Maryland.. Let me know. I"m will to car pool as I'm driving room for 3 more.

 

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I'll make the same offer to folks along 287 in Jersey, I-80 between NJ and I-81, I-81 from NJ to Baltimore, and Baltimore to DeanFest. Room for five more.

 

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- Oops !

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 11:11 AM EDT

Make that I-83 from York PA to Baltimore !

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- Webb

By mary vb on May 9, 2008 11:15 AM EDT

for VP? From Rasmussen Reports. Only thing is these folks didn't do their homework. They incorrectly assert Webb was a Navy officer. He went to USNA - was an officer in the Marines then Secty of the Navy.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_gerald_m_pomper/obama_s_vice_president

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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 11:24 AM EDT
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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 11:17 AM EDT

I sure hope Monica is wrong about McCain not being their nominee although it does seem ridiculous that they would run such an old fellow who must seem 'lefty' to the right wing nuts - in other words, beatable.

I agree Seashell Condi is terrifying.

Phil, I never thought before that the 'oilmen' might be manufacturing the food shortage to keep us out of the ethanol business - good thought.

David Stevenson I think -- I dig 'Go-Bama' for a slogan - would work any where but Alabama lol.

Guess that's all for the moment.

 

 

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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 11:22 AM EDT

mary I think it'll be Webb altho my cockles want Schweitzer, Webb prolly brings more to the ticket.

I heard some gossip on the web -- one is that Edwards inadvertently said on Morning Joe that he 'voted for him' in the primary - draw your own conclusions.  It's in a KOS diary.

I read somewhere that ABC says Obama has passed Hill in SDs.

 

 

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By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 11:29 AM EDT

annilow -

I think DCW is more accurate than ABC regarding SDs (has Clinton up by 6; Clinton's 269.5 to Obama's 263):

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

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Superdelegate Comparison

CandidateDCW CNN NBC AP
Clinton 269.5 268 274 271
Obama 263 258 260 256
Updated 5/9/2008

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- Rasmussen To End Daily Tracking of Dems

By sandy m on May 9, 2008 11:30 AM EDT

At the moment, Senator Clinton’s team is busily trying to convince Superdelegates and pundits that she is more electable than Barack Obama. For reasons discussed in a separate article, it doesn’t matter. Even if every single Superdelegate was convinced that the former First Lady is somewhat more electable than Obama, that is not enough of a reason to deny him the nomination.

With this in mind, Rasmussen Reports will soon end our daily tracking of the Democratic race and focus exclusively on the general election competition between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Barring something totally unforeseen, that is the choice American voters will have before them in November. While we have not firmly decided upon a final day for tracking the Democratic race, it is coming soon

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 11:32 AM EDT

And welcome back Susan...

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- Anyone hear this?

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 11:32 AM EDT

Asked on CNN about Mr. McCain’s recent statement that the radical Palestinian party Hamas, considered by the United States to be a terrorist organization, would favor Mr. Obama’s election, Mr. Obama said it was offensive and called it a smear.

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By mary vb on May 9, 2008 11:35 AM EDT

Yes, Fred.  And Obama said McCain was *losing his bearings*.  LOL

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By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 11:42 AM EDT

I always liked McCain, and lost a lot of respect for him when I heard that.  The straight-talk express definitely lost a wheel in my book.

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- Barbara Boxer for VP

By sandy m on May 9, 2008 11:32 AM EDT

 

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- I like Boxer

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 11:38 AM EDT

And she definitely fills the empty space Hillary leaves, but Feinstein is more of a business-woman type and would appeal more to the moderate independents on the fence.

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- Feinstein

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 11:40 AM EDT

could also help nail down most of the Jewish vote

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By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 11:42 AM EDT

Boxer is Jewish too.

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- touche - I forgot - you are right

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 11:49 AM EDT

- I actually like Boxer better. She was strong behind Biden on the so-called "partition" (a bad word, reminiscent of the I/P mess) The United States of Iraq idea, but my political instincts tell me Feinstein would be better for the moderate conservative swing voters.  I could be wrong. It's just a hunch.

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- An eclectic cultural backround - like Obama

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 11:52 AM EDT

Feinstein attended the Convent of the Sacred Heart High School and was given a Catholic religious education, but also attended Hebrew school and was confirmed in the Jewish faith at the age of thirteen, having said that she has "always considered [herself] Jewish".<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-background_3-1">[4]</sup>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dianne_Feinstein

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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 12:27 PM EDT

And I thought being raised in a mixed Protestant/Roman Catholic home was confusing :~)

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- Thanks for linking, Annilow

By mary vb on May 9, 2008 11:33 AM EDT

I'm back on my beloved MAC but can't link? Is there a secret to it? I don't have a toolbar again. ;-(

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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 12:16 PM EDT

mary vb I finally caved and took Monica's advice and downloaded Firefox and it does seem to help (I'm on a Mac too).  Sometimes I still get the 'text only' box altho this one doesn't automatically link.  So I bookmarked a web page w/ the HTML code for linking and just copy it down substituting my link.  It is a pain in the rear but it is an alternative.  What's driving me nuts is if I leave for even a second I have to log back in.

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- A craven nut

By mary vb on May 9, 2008 11:41 AM EDT

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

 

Now she's saying she should be at the top of the ticket.  A must read.  She isn't bowing out graciously that's for sure.

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By Annilow on May 9, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
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- Nigthmare ticket

By Pat in Colorado on May 9, 2008 11:47 AM EDT

The Dream Ticket is a NIGHTMARE! Hillary is a Neocon, folks. She voted for the war, the Kyl/Liberbman Amerndment, refused to negotiate with"enemy countries", and has promised obliteration of Iran and any country that opposes us. She's taken money from major lobbyists and right wingers such as Scaife and Murdock, is in conclusion with the military/industrial complex, and husband Bill has taken lots of money from the Columbian government and other governments that do not support the best interests of the American people. What's wrong with people's heads? Clinton would negate everything Obama and the grassroots stands for.

Annilow, I felt the same way you do, but am more nuanced today. I don't want Penn, Carville, and any of those creeps to get my money, but even more I want them to go away. Let them take their marbles and run. They've done enough damage.

So, while Obama will get my money until he wins the presidency, I understand and concur with how you feel.

And so another day. As usual the weather forecast is warm and sunny, rain, wind, snow showers. In Colorado, we get it all.

Have a beautiful day, friends.

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- If Kyl-Lieberman is the litmus test

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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- Then again, if the object is to secure the feminist vote

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 12:02 PM EDT

Hillary supporters did not seem to mind her voting on Kyl-Lieberman.

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- I agree a Hillary VP is a nightmare

By Fred from Oregon on May 9, 2008 12:18 PM EDT

But not because she is conservative-leaning.  VPs are often used to balance tickets to win elections.  The reason Hillary is a nightmare is the same reason her nomination would be a nightmare.  It would drive away independents and liberals, and actually energize the conservative base.   The idea of Bill back in the white house (by hook or by crook, as it were) it the nightmare.

The biggest things she had going for her in this primary was: (1) name-recognition. (2) Being a woman (3) being white.

Everything else about her is highly negative

In all fairness, though one has to say that if she had never married Bill, and had never been first lady, she might have been a better candidate, and a better person, for that matter.

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- McCain who ?

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 11:52 AM EDT

Senator McCain probably mis-heard Senator Obama - and thought Obama claimed McCain was losing his hearing.

 

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- new thread

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 12:14 PM EDT

new thread (John McCain)

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- "Everything else about her is highly negative"

By Pat in Colorado on May 9, 2008 12:52 PM EDT

Hi Fred,

I agree with your assessment. I think along the way of life we make mistakes, give in to our worst instincts, have done things we regret, but we can learn from them, become deeper, gain more breadth and compassion.

I think Hillary and Bill compromised along the way, made enough bargains with the devil for power, influence, and wealth that ethics went out the window. I think we're seeing a woman out of control, imploding. There is no reasoning, no genuine love of country and people in what she is doing. It is bloody, no-holds-barred ambition, and that to me is dangerous.

Both Hillary and Bill are extremely talented, have received the best benefits and opportunities of this society, but somewhere gratitude and real service to the country got lost in personal ambition.

Plus, while Hillary is smart and capable, she hasn't shown good judgment in many of her decisions, not least marrying Bill. Frankly, Obama is much the more intelligent of the candidates. The question is, since we haven't seen intelligence in office for at least 16 years, will Americans even recognize it, appreciate it, and respond with intelligence?

And, McCain is no threat. The man is failing: he is senile.

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By puddle on May 9, 2008 1:20 PM EDT
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By puddle on May 9, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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- damn,

By puddle on May 9, 2008 1:21 PM EDT

I never hit post. . . .

 

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