Dean is first!

Welcome Colin Taylor.

Welcome Colin :-)

Colin, welcome to you and all the other interns.

Is Sheri still up there? Haven't heard from her for awhiles.

Welcome Colin to DFA and BFA !

Yes We Can!
Si Se Puede!
Oui Nous Pouvons!

Not likely.  Something will have to be done about the sins of George Bush directly.

Welcome Colin.

You make great points. GWB must be prosecuted for war crimes and "other misdemeanors" ASAP after he leaves office. Same for Cheney.

Colin "

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Well, Colin, I hope you have a great day too. 

BTW- If you get a free moment, in your upcoming busy schedule, to post something on this blog, about your experiences in Columbo, Sri Lanka, IMO that would be much appreciated here.

Thanks in advance

Sorry if this is a repost:

2008
Jan16
Obama 41
Edwards 38
H. Clinton 11
Kucinich 4
No F'ing Clue 2
Other 1

KOS poll

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/...

First time BO has been ahead - altho KOS points out Edwards points perhaps went more to Clinton than to Barack.

And welcome Colin.

2:56 PM ET

Welcome Colin.

Good luck, Jo.

Ok, before I leave for the day, speaking of places, I laughed when I saw this article about Nevada (fyi -I make mistakes all the time, just like Michelle, when it comes to pronouncing names, places, etc. -- I guess that means I'm not perfect, she's not perfect, her husband's not perfect, we ALL are not perfect) -- but what a quick comeback for "The Closer" Michelle ! :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_el_pr/political_play_of_the_day_1

Obama's wife flubs Nevada, recovers

48 minutes ago

RENO, Nev. -

...

Michelle Obama committed the real local sin by mispronouncing the name of the state.

She was introducing her husband, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, by saying how happy she was to be in Nuh-VAH-duh. The crowd at the University of Nevada Reno immediately burst into heckles.

Locals don't like it when visitors pronounced the state by using a soft a, like in "baccarat." The correct pronunciation in these parts is Nuh-VAD-uh, with a hard a, like in "craps" or "blackjack."

Michelle Obama immediately realized her mistake. "Nuh-VAD-uh! Oh, no," she said, putting her head in her hands in recognition of her blunder.

"I've been in South Carolina too long!" she said, a reference to her campaigning the primary state that comes next after Nevada's caucus Saturday.

"It's nice to be here Nuh-VAD-uh! Nevada, Nevada, Nevada!" she said, making the politically correct pronunciation over and over again to applause from the crowd. "I know how to bounce back from my mistakes."

WUFT FM classical music trivia question - don't look it up. Answer tomorrow.

What do the following numbers 77, 35, 39 have in common with these composers -
Haydn, Mozart and Chopin?

I see in viewing the previous threads, some comments were made about Obama's remarks re: Reagan.

I never ceased to be amazed at the effectiveness of Obama's campaign people. They are all ahead of the curve, for sure.

Obama was in California yesterday. Obama pledges to unite the country. There are plenty of potential Republican supporters in Calif. who still admire Reagan, a past governor there. There are also plenty of Reagan Democrats still around.

Obama said Reagan changed the political country when he came into office and that is so true. He said Clinton didn't change it so much, also quite true.

Obama NEVER commented on the policies or deeds of Reagan, only that he changed the country.

Obama gets an "A" for his remarks which, if you are going to unite the country, must include the Reagan supporters who still exist. Putting this two and two together doesn't take much thought. Obama hit the jackpot while Edwards made a fool of himself with his kneejerk remarks which didn't even address what Obama said.

That is why I support Obama these days and not Edwards who always seems to get sucked into something that does not particularly compliment himself in doing so.

Yes, we can!

11. Yes!! Good luck Jo.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_el_pr/michelle_obama_1

Obama's wife gets Vegas night out

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

Thu Jan 17, 10:51 PM ET

LAS VEGAS - Michelle Obama got a night out in Vegas for her 44th birthday Thursday.

...

"I want to publicly proclaim my love and admiration for my wife, Michelle," Democratic hopeful Barack Obama said after she introduced him to a crowd of voters at Rancho High School, who sang "Happy Birthday" to her. He joked that it was only her 29th birthday.

"Even though I'm campaigning, ladies, I just want you to know, I'm taking her out to dinner tonight," Obama said.

...

12. Joan good post.

15.

rd

Kinda like potatoes, potatoes, tomatoes, tomatoes -- all depends on where you are from.

Annilow,...the number of chamber music pieces?

gotta go...

Thanks Anni.

I see we have the rabbit/turtle syndrome back on the blog:)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416427@N02/2201297246/in/photostream/

Pls. vote for Chellie Pingree (Grassroots All-Stars), if 'ya haven't done so already!

http://democracyforamerica.com/gras

Check her out (not a feminist sellout, BTW--running in a primary against five men):

www.pingreeforcongress.com

To Monica:

props for doing the recount thang...say hello to Jean and/or David if you happen to see 'em again.

We're stuck w/Snowe until 2012, but Jean gave it 1000% in '06.

www.jeanhaybright.us

Great peeps.

I sense they'll be in NH for awhile.

Betting Jean has new book fodder, also.

"Butch and Hoppy?" Creative title in the making, methinks.

The so-called side slits in the box (as well as re-using them) sounds like my frugal deceased mother.

Mum had a collection of very organized "keeper" sturdy cardboard boxes in her dry and vacuumed cellar (also had a vacuum cleaner specifically for the cellar--and one for the garage, too).

I'm serious. OCD-O-Rama-Mother!

It's fine when wrapping future presents, but never for ballots.

Go, Jean!

http://brightberrypress.com/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416427@N02/2200502329/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16416427@N02/2200502187/in/photostream/

21. Seashell - good guess but no. I guessed the opus number of their first symphonies (altho I don't know of any Chopin symphonies lol) and that's wrong too. Answer tomorrow.

well, like Colin, I hope everyone has a great day !

for now, from me, it's Hasta la Vista !

Future Sen., Tom Allen (Good Dem-ME) is sponsoring legislation to repeal that f^cking Real ID Act.

http://tinyurl.com/36pxop

H.R.1117 (32 cosponsors thus far--see if your peeps are on the list):

http://tinyurl.com/23dotc

[...]

"Despite the announced delayed implementation, Maine politicians are speaking out against the REAL ID Act of 2005.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security issued regulations for the act last week, including giving states until 2017 to comply. Under the original language, states would have had to be in compliance by May.

The Department also announced that starting in 2017, old driver’s licenses won’t get people into federal buildings or onto airplanes – a slap in the face to Maine and a handful of other states that have passed resolutions barring their participation in a national identification program. Driver’s licenses would be replaced by a national, tamper-proof ID card."

[....]

fmi:

http://tinyurl.com/2a72xu

#12 Joan in Florida,

Great post.  You fill me with optimism  that such clear thinking is out there.  Hurray for you and for Obama, who I hope is the next President of this country. 

It's my first chance to be on blog today (when I had a few moments earlier, there was no blog at all). And now my day is nearly over.

*****
My husband has been glued to CNBC to see how the market performed today ... the outlook doesn't look good. It was interesting to me that they showed a clip from Conan O'Brien's Late Night where he was showing the many similarities between putz's facial expressions and those of chimps. That is something that I am used to seeing on the blogs but had not seen on MSM TV until now ... does that mean that the nails are truly in the political coffin?

Every day that putz is in office is another day lost to our country, I'm afraid. And every day without ensuring that our votes will be well and truly counted, no matter who is the Dem candidate, is a day that can seal our political destiny against our will ... yet again.

Fool us once, shame on the fooling person, fool us twice, shame on us. Fool us a third time ... and there will be no coming back.

Obama speech from Las Vegas tonight about 10:00 p.m. ET, according to their schedule.

29.

Thanks Pat. Stay warm!

It seems a Roy Carter from NC is drawing the most votes in the All Star.

He is a teacher, a coach, and a life time Dem., but I don't see anything that would distinguish him as a progressive. Must be his team likes him.

According to Dan Froomkin, Waxman is hopping mad.

It's about time that someone is, IMO.

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Waxman Ain't Buying
By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Friday, January 18, 2008; 11:56 AM

Responding to reports that the White House may have destroyed millions of e-mails in violation of public records laws, White House spokesman Tony Fratto went before the press corps yesterday to say: What missing e-mails?

"We have no reason to believe that any e-mail at all are missing," Fratto said.

But Henry Waxman ain't buying.

Last night, the persistent chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee let loose with a double-barreled blast of Congressional truth-squadding.

He disclosed that the White House told his committee investigators last fall that there were almost 500 days on which e-mails weren't archived for certain White House offices. And he demanded an explanation:

[...]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

putz is making a last-ditch effort to reward his friends.

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Bush calls for tax breaks to avoid recession
Mark Tran and agencies guardian.co.uk
Friday January 18 2008

The US president, George Bush, today called for big tax breaks to stave off recession as the American economy struggled to shake off the effects of a housing crisis.

Bush proposed a stimulus package of about $145bn (£74bn) – about 1% of gross domestic product – at a time when the administration is increasingly worried about the knock-on effects of a housing slump and a tightening of credit markets.

"Letting Americans keep more of their money should increase consumer spending," Bush said.

Bush, who acknowledged the risk of a downturn, said Congress should try to draft legislation as soon as possible to "keep our economy growing and creating jobs".

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/...

Here's a name from the past who left us yesterday. He was about my age.

!!
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Chess champion Bobby Fischer dies
In pictures: Bobby Fischer
David Batty and agencies
Friday January 18, 2008
Guardian Unlimited

One of the world's greatest chess players, Bobby Fischer, has died at the age of 64.

A spokesman for Fischer, Gardar Sverrisson, said the former world chess champion died in a Reykjavik hospital yesterday. Information on the cause of death has not been released.

Fischer, who grew up in Brooklyn, New York, gained fame in his teens. At 14, he became the youngest player ever to win the US championship; at 15, he became the youngest international grandmaster in history. He won the US championship eight times in eight attempts.

He gained international fame in 1972 when he beat the Soviet Union's Boris Spassky in what was dubbed the "match of the century" to become the first US chess champion for a century.

The match between the eccentric and highly individualistic American and Spassky, who was backed by the mighty Soviet chess establishment, captured the public imagination.

But his reputation as a chess genius with a ferocious attacking style was eclipsed, in the eyes of many, by his idiosyncrasies.

He refused to defend his title in 1975 when the World Chess Federation (FIDE) did not accept all his conditions for a title defence, so he forfeited the title to another Soviet, Anatoly Karpov.

Fischer then fell into obscurity before resurfacing to play an exhibition rematch against Spassky in 1992 on the resort island of Sveti Stefan off Montenegro.

Fischer won, but the game was played in violation of international sanctions imposed on Slobodan Milosevic, then president of Yugoslavia.

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33211...

good place for a youngster like you to start Colin, welcome

35.

Same ol' same ol' from Bush. I tax cut will fix everything that is wrong with the economy. The problem is his previous tax cuts for the wealthy and his "war" with Iraq are much of the problem.

Comment by John J. Pitney, Jr., Roy P. Crocker Professor of American Politics

Bad News/Good News - 23 hours ago

Bad news for the economy is good news for politicians. The prospect of recession is a "get out of jail free" card for lawmakers who want to spend money or give out tax breaks. Now they can pump up the deficit without guilt.

The danger is that the stimulus will be the economic equivalent of a sugar high. There might be a quick spike in activity, but then fatigue and hunger will set in again. At that point, there will be demand for another round of stimuli.

 at a time when the administration is increasingly worried about the knock-on effects of a housing slump and a tightening of credit markets.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

bright idea

just when there is a downturn caused by a tightening of the credit market, lets have the good ole USA borrow some more to pass out to friends, and compete for the funds that will spur the recovery by building  bio fuel plants that might reduce the price of gasoline that is gouging budgets 

One wonders just how many other countries putz will manage to destroy and how many more people will die while he is allowed to remain in office.

He and Reagan are the worst Presidents of my lifetime, which spans FDR to putz. They are the worst of all US Presidents ever, according to many who are more knowledgeable than I.

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Three-way checkmate
George Bush's visit to the Middle East has failed to loosen a Gordian knot of Hamas, Fatah and Israel
Hussein Agha and Robert Malley
Friday January 18, 2008
Guardian

President Bush came, he saw, and he went. Barely had he gone that 25 Palestinians were killed and an intensive barrage of rockets were launched from Gaza. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has gone from a violent, intractable, clear-cut duel to a violent, intractable, three-way chess match. Israel, the Palestinian Authority and Hamas each fear that the other two will reach a deal at its expense. And each is determined to prevent that outcome.

For Hamas, a rapprochement between the Palestinian Authority and Israel represents a threat. The closer Israel and Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, move to a negotiated settlement, the more difficult it will be for the Islamists to maintain and expand their support. An effort by Israel to suffocate Gaza, which Hamas controls, together with attempts by the Palestinian Authority to further squeeze Hamas's infrastructure in the West Bank and round up its militants, would also expose the Islamist movement.

Israel worries that Abbas - pressed by Palestinian public opinion, Arab countries and his party's fear of a Palestinian civil war - will reconcile with Hamas. Not a day passes without unofficial contact between Abbas's Fatah party and its Islamist counterpart. Beyond that, Palestinian unity comports far more with any Palestinian leader's inclinations than discord. A renewed national compact would upset Israel's strategy of perpetuating Palestinian geographic and political division. It would also thwart the expectation that Palestinian security forces might go after the Islamist movement and do to Hamas what Israel, with all its might, has been unable to.

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33211...

Thanks again, putz, for the policies ...

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Collapsing housing market clouds Nevada caucuses
Suzanne Goldenberg in Las Vegas
Friday January 18, 2008
Guardian Unlimited

The last time Barbara Wheeler visited her old neighbourhood she counted 11 homes that had been repossessed on the small curving street of Spanish-style villas.

Wheeler's was at number 3705. She moved into a rented flat after signing away her home to her mortgage lender, one of thousands in Nevada swept up in the collapse of America's mortgage lending industry.

The state has the highest per capita rate of home repossessions. More than 5,500 homes were repossessed here last September, the month Wheeler lost her home, deepening an economic crisis in what had once been America's iconic boomtown.

In neighbourhoods like Wheeler's in northern Las Vegas, the ravages are clearly visible.

"Two doors behind us, they moved out overnight and they foreclosed on their house, and then it was house after house after house," she said.

Homes lie empty or boarded up or have signs out the front offering: "Free move anywhere."

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33211...

Welcome to Colin and to the new DFA interns. It's nice to see that many have international backgrounds and/or interests.

Colin: since you were most recently in Sri Lanka, do you have any thoughts about the civil unrest there?

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Expat Tamil community calls for airline boycott
Owen Bowcott
Friday January 18, 2008
Guardian Unlimited

Tamils around the world have called for a global boycott of Sri Lankan Airlines in protest at the Colombo government's decision to end its six-year ceasefire with rebels.
The Sri Lankan government officially annulled the cessation of hostilities with the rebel Tamil Tigers two weeks ago.

The truce, signed in 2002, had been largely ignored since mid-2006, with fighting becoming widespread in recent months across Sri Lanka.

Today, eight civilians and two policemen were killed in the south of the country in an attack by the Tigers, officially called the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or LTTE.

Announcing the boycott, the London-based British Tamils Forum claimed that £12m in foreign currency earned annually by the airline was being used to reinforce the government's war chest.

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/...

and how about fixing social security by raising the limit?

guess that's off the table

we have a candidate pledged to let Bush's tax cuts pay for universal health care as they expire

let's keep our eye on the ball

my plan:

close down the payday loan sharks

then mail a check to their customers to replace them and you won't effect the credit needs , plus add the stimulus that would otherwise go for rip off interest

just saying, don't fall for the Republican trap

Wonder whether we could strike a deal with Putin for putz to suffer this fate ... together with all his minions and enablers, all of whom are *delinquents ... blamed for a series of ugly crimes.*.

What a lovely fantasy! But it's a bit tough on the Siberians who would have to put up with it.

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Violent German teen sent to cope in Siberia
· Boy, 16, has to make own fire, dig toilet, pump water
· Critics attack nine-month bleak exile from family
Kate Connolly in Berlin
Friday January 18, 2008
Guardian

German authorities exasperated at the antisocial behaviour of a 16-year-old boy have sent him to a remote Siberian village for an "intensive educational experience", it emerged yesterday.
The unusual measure by youth welfare officers in the central state of Hesse raised fresh questions about how to deal with delinquents who have been blamed for a series of ugly crimes.

The boy, who has not been identified, was dispatched east after behaving violently in school and at home and attacking his mother. He is being forced to fend for himself in boot camp-style conditions in the forlorn village of Sedelnikovo, several hours drive from the city of Omsk, in the western Siberian interior.

He has had to cope by collecting and chopping firewood to make his own fires, digging his own toilet and pumping water supplies from a well. He will stay there for nine months, separated from family and friends, the internet and television, under a programme designed specifically for him.

Under the supervision of a Russian-speaking German assistant, the boy is also attending school. Once he returns to Germany, he will be monitored for a further two years.

"We deliberately sought a region that was particularly lacking in allure," said Stefan Becker, the head of the youth and social department in Giessen, calling it "the ultima ratio" in the attempt to re-educate the boy, for whom all other measures had failed. "[The youth] spends most of his time trying to cope with his day to day existence, living in conditions like we had 30 or 40 years ago," he added. "If he doesn't chop the wood, his room is cold. If he doesn't fetch water, he can't wash."

[...]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33211...

The crisis in Kenya is not diminishing, I'm afraid.

While I do not approve of violence against anyone at all, it does appear from all reports that the election there was well and truly stolen.

Following putzCo's examples ...

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Kenyan opposition leader threatens to call general strike
By Steve Bloomfield in Nairobi
Published: 18 January 2008

Kenya is bracing itself for another week of protests and unrest after the opposition leader, Raila Odinga, vowed to increase the pressure on Mwai Kibaki's embattled government with a general strike and boycott of some of Kenya's largest companies.

The death toll from the country's post-election violence rose yesterday after a second day of opposition-organised protests. Mr Odinga accused police of killing seven people in Kasarani, Nairobi. More than 600 people have so far died, many by police bullets, others during clashes between opposition supporters and tribes which supported Mr Kibaki in December's election.

Police have fired teargas and live rounds to disperse crowds in towns and cities across Kenya. In the western city of Kisumu, a local television station filmed a young protester pulling faces at a police officer. The man was shot in the chest, then the officer kicked him as he lay bleeding. The man died. Mr Odinga accused police of being "on a killing spree". The government, he said, has "turned this country into a killing fields of the innocent".

[...]
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/afri...

What I personally think about Raygun is unprintable in polite society.

Any candidate who wishes to *don his mantle* in any way whatsoever will find me literally running in the opposite direction.

Fortunately, those who fawn over RR are Republics from whom I would run anyway. I have seen Obama's comments discussed here and believe that they were likely emphasized out of context. Whatever he said, however, I found it unfortunate because it was just a matter of time before his comments would be interpreted in just this way.

Not smart.

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The return of Ronald Reagan
As US president, he was widely mocked. Yet today he is being cited as an inspiration by presidential candidates of all political persuasions. Rupert Cornwell on a remarkable rehabilitation
Published: 18 January 2008

As I get older Ronald Reagan seems to get smarter." Thus the Republican Mitt Romney, campaigning ahead of his victory in this week's Republican primary in his old home state of Michigan that kept his White House hopes alive. But the words might have been uttered by any of his rivals for the nomination.

Most presidents and presidential candidates pick a hero, explicit or otherwise, among their predecessors. As he struggles late in his second term to rescue his legacy, George Bush takes comfort from Harry Truman, who left office as unloved as Bush is now, but is today regarded as one of America's greater presidents. During his election campaign in 1992, Bill Clinton used his youth and novelty to portray himself as a new Kennedy, lifting shamelessly from the JFK playbook. This time around, however, the man to emulate is Ronald Reagan – and not only for Republicans.

Even Barack Obama, the youthful sensation of the Democratic race, is getting into the act. Ronald Reagan, he told a Nevada newspaper ahead of that state's primary tomorrow, "changed the trajectory of America", and met the country's yearning for "clarity, optimism... and a sense of dynamism". In short everyone is grabbing for a corner of the Reagan mantle – to recapture the stardust that 28 years ago conjured arguably the most significant US election victory of the modern era.

[...]
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/amer...

Oh yes, the *surge* in Iraq has worked so well.

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Friday, January 18, 2008
Wave of Killing of Women;

Al-Zaman reports in Arabic that women activists on Thursday organized a conference in Baghdad to protest the increasing problem of women being targeted for killing, especially by religious militias. They said that more than 100 women have been killed in Basra, 250 in Kirkuk province, and 50 in Diyala.

[...]
http://www.juancole.com/2008/01/wave-of-...

More about the stock market ....

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Stocks End Rough Week With Modest Drop
By MADLEN READ
AP Business Writer
3:34 PM CST, January 18, 2008
NEW YORK

Wall Street ended a painful week with another decline Friday as skittish investors unable to hold on to much optimism about the economy drew little comfort from President Bush's stimulus plan.

The day's trading reflected how fractious Wall Street has been in the new year. Investors pulled back from a big early advance, with the major indexes trading mixed as Bush began to speak. By the time the president finished announcing a plan for about $145 billion worth of tax relief, the indexes were well into negative territory.

"It's disappointed in the size of the economic growth package. Wall Street's showing its displeasure," said Kim Caughey, equity research analyst at Fort Pitt Capital Group in Pittsburgh. "Honestly, I think the institutional investors understand the limits to the government's ability to enact economic change."

Coming after Bush's announcement, Friday's pullback made it clear that the stock market is in for a protracted period of uncertainty and continued declines. Investors have shrugged off all the positive signs they've received in recent days, including assurances last week from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke that the Fed is ready to act aggressively -- which means a likely big interest rate cut later this month -- to help support an economy pummeled by devastation in the housing and credit markets.

[...]
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/s...

Sorry to abandon the Obama love fest, but I have to cook dinner.

Incidentally Dorgan, like Michael, I am not "ABB" as you put it. He'd make an OK president, if he could win the General, which I doubt. I prefer him to Hillary, and if  my guy DK is done (thanks to the Democratic Party and the Press), I'm with Indy in supporting Edwards. Unlike Sitka, I can forgive his past sins (to which he's admitted) and take his current positions at face value.

On to the Spaghetti and meatballs!

Wow, HuJo ... it's just been me posting for the last while, with an occasional remark from Phil, who is my bellwether these days (sorry for the sheep allusion to a cattle man!) and I am not love-festing for any current candidate.

And that's for sure.

Anyway, I too am on my way out ... but it will be to some relaxing music and ultimately PillowLand.

Have good ones.

Just saw this and thought I'd share.

"Lawrence O'Donnell
by Keith Olbermann [Subscribe]
Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 11:00:01 AM PST

Forgive the fairly minor focus here but I spot at least three diaries on his appearance on Countdown last night to discuss Obama, Reagan, and Edwards.

Those of you complaining about it are right.
Keith Olbermann's diary :: ::

His HuffPo piece was news to me.

Shouldn't have been, obviously, but it was.

I don't read every blog, nor everything written by my guests. I often don't know until an hour beforehand who will be a guest on a given show (if it matters to you, these scheduling nightmares tend to come in waves for some reason, and last night was a Nor'easter). Also, to announce, on-air, each guest's preferences, prejudices, shillings and shiv jobs, would reduce the rest of the show to "Good Evening. Call Me Ishmael. My Boat Sank. The End. Good Night." And Lawrence O'Donnell's insight is almost always perceptive, relevant, and enlightened.

But even with these caveats, the point about this appearance, especially in the wake of such a freshly-written piece, is well-taken and I'm very sorry.

It will be addressed tonight on the show.

Thanks.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1...


I wrote one this morning, but had to run out to get my car fixed.

This was my diary.

Psssst, Larry O’Donnell, us REAL Left Democarts Are Who Vote
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1...

ciao!

Will someone who might be promoting or having voted for Roy carter for All Star Candidate please tell us, is there something that distinguishes him as a progressive that we should know about?

♥ Linda ♥ Howdy!

Dang, missed ya again. Sweet dreams Judy.

Mmmm ~ spaghetti and meatballs :-) It's a bit lopsided now and then, but I see the love/hate fest as equally BO and JE, each has their supporters/detractors

bbl

♥'s to all

Kindness is free!

Hi Thankful!  Glad to see you virtually again. ;-)

 So, is the reason DFA is getting all new interns is to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Monica Lewinsky scandal?  Shocking!

Just kidding!!!

Re:  love/hate fest.

There's a saying that there are only 2 emotions, love and fear, and that love is not an emotion.  Love, if healthy, is actually a choice.  If it's not a choice, then it's coming from some not healed place inside.  You can't make people love, but you can certainly instill fear in them.

When people attack JE, I don't consider it hate; I consider it fear. 

It's also becoming clear that people choose cands for different reasons.  Some choose for personal reasons ( my son will have more money for education, lower taxes etc); some for emotional reasons and some for other various reasons.

With BO, I would most likely have more money in my pocket, but I'm not interested in that...I'd like to see taxes raised on those who can afford a bit/lot more.

I'm an issues voter.  Concrete issues.  Issues that could help save our country.  The 3 issues that most concern me at this moment are:  the Constitution (all 3 fail miserably); the war - Edwards wants out including no bases; Corporate Media power - Edwards wins that one hands down since he has said he'll go after the corporations, and we all have discussed that fascism is the marriage of state and corporations.  So...Edwards is wanting to pull us back from fascism.

I, of course, will vote for BO, if I have to...but he'll not win the gen'l IMO unless it's a JE/BO ticket and even then, I think we're prolly toast, once the fear card and election fraud again rear their heads since the American people are much more motivated by fear of death than love of country.  IMO

If we're to have a chance at all, we need hand-counted paper ballots and none of the 3 cands are calling for that, are they ? 

I wonder if Gore could take it at the convention if JE ends up Kingmaker.  How could that work, Phil?  Is it even possible?  With so little talk from any of them about the environment, I would think Al is upset...a lot....

My 2 cents.  Notice that I did not attack BO.  :-)

What thread are we on?

Roy Carter is an everday guy, who is running for Congress because nobody else in the district would. He has no politcal experience. He's spent the last forty years as a high school science teacher, and a head football coach in a disrict so poor, that for many, earning earning a football scholarship was their only possible way of affording collge, and Roy helped hundreds of them get there.

 But he got tired of seeing former students and players being shipped of to Iraq, so he decided to do something about it himself, even if it meant putting everything (he is a month away from retirement with a brand new grandbaby) on the line.

He's against NAFTA, and the WTO. He was against BOTH wars from the start, based on common sense.

He's harshly anti-corporate. (The man's a small time farmer, and so are all his friends and neighbors.)

He has no career ambitions and has no plans of advancing further past the Congrssional seat. He's just running because it's the right thing to do.

 So he's not going to go up there and make friends, with lobbyists or republicans. He'll be a loose liberal cannon, and one you'll be proud of.

 He is determined to restore justice in this country, and bring healthcare to all who want it.

 When you compare Roy to the district he lives in (one that includes a couple of counties that have NEVER voted for a Democrat for president, EVER), he is by far the most progressive candidate in the field.

He's not a dealmaker, he's already said he'll fillisbuster whatever he has to, come hell' or high water.

JE should have put a bat or something up on his website.  I can't find out how much he's raising...

Phil? 

Mike Cooper.......58

Thank you for your info on Roy Carter.

Have to say I really don't give a damn about the spouses -- except when they belittle themselves as attack dogs like Bill and Elizabeth. 

putz is making a last-ditch effort to reward his friends.

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Bush calls for tax breaks to avoid recession

And Pelosi is making a last ditch effort to help him.... 

JE should have put a bat or something up on his website.  I can't find out how much he's raising...

Probably doesn't want you to know.