Howard Dean is first.

We voted for Obama, though our vote for him does not count.   At least he made progress here, as Hillary's margin on exit polling by the time election day came was only 4%.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1797

How ot get rid of NCLB....put all of its congressional supporters on a reality show where they are stuck in classrooms just like ordinary teachers.  

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1799

"Six "No Child Left Behind" supporters - three men and three women -- will be dropped in an elementary school classroom for one school year. Each will be provided with a copy of the school district's curriculum, and a class of 28 to 32 students"

"Each class will have a minimum of five learning-disabled children, three with ADD, one gifted child and two who speak limited English. Three students will be labeled with severe behavior problems."

"Yes we can change. Yes we can heal this nation. Yes we can seize our future. - Barack Obama"  01/26/08

Yes, we can and we will.

Yes We Can!  I'm voting for Obama on Souper Douper Tousday!

I just finished calling a set of people in California on behalf of Obama. I was a little nervous at first; but it was really fun. Everyone that answered was really nice. I am doing this from my home. If you want to call but feel like you're working in a vacuum at home; if you have a lap top, just get together with friends and call together. You can have contests among each other and feed off of each others energy. Whatever, please call if you can. Every call counts. Just go to the Obama web site to sign up. You can pick from virtually any state you want to call. Thanks.

Saw Nader on TV today mulling the possibility of another run. The more the merrier!

He said he and his organization are sueing the DNC for what it did to keep him off ballots in 2004, and have set up a team of pro bono lawyers across the country to handle any challenges this time. I'm hoping Dean will not sink to the level of trying to deny voters their choice as McAwful did. 

predictions: Hillary wins 12 states, Obama wins 10. Delegates go to Hillary by less than 50 overall. This would be a great day for Obama. Then it's onto D.C. Virginia and Maryland. Obama will win all of those.

Giants 27 Patriots 24

Keith is on the little thread just before this one.  We could possibly run two at once.  LOL

John Nelson makes excellent points in his blog.

~~~~~~~~~~

I watched John McCain for a few minutes this morning on FTN. Schieffert showed him a short clip of Obama at the last debate saying how much the huge tax cuts given the very wealthy by the Rethugs since 2001 have hurt the economy.

McCain swung back around in his chair and got this smirking smile on his face as if to laugh it all off as ridiculous.

That is why the R's in DC will not win the WH in Nov. and perhaps lose more seats in Congress. They don't get it, don't want to get it and are in complete denial while the rest of the country is totally on a different track. All of us want the economy to improve and know the tax cuts will have to "die on the vine" as they expire.

That is just one way to improve the economy, but all the other ingredients are also those that the R politicians won't consider either, like trade deficits, investing in infrastructers, etc. It's all they have left to run on with the demise of abortion, gay marriage, and the bipartisanship of immigration policies gaining ground.

"Believe in yourself!" - Barack Obama

5.

John

I'm not sure I agree with the delegates, I predict Obama will win slightly more of the delegates he has been targeting. But it won't matter because after Feb. 5, he will have much time to personally visit the remaining states which could give him all the delegates he needs to win.

I do, however, like your prediction of the SS game. Gotta like that Eli.

4. sitka

Re: Nader

What a guy, can't stand to be left out in the rain. Must run again, must sue the DNC -- anything to get attention.

Poor guy should be a Rethug, they don't get it either.

All I'm wlling to guess is that Obama routs the Clintons.

Poor guy should be a Rethug, they don't get it either.

A lot of Democrats talk about "choice" without really believing in it. 

8.

Sitka
Sun, 02/03/08

Reply to this
All I'm wlling to guess is that Obama routs the Clintons.
------
I sure hope so. I love how you say the Clintons. So true. NJ is the poll that has tripped me the most. She was ahead by a good 30 points. I hope it's a real arse whoopin' on Tuesday in O's favor.

2. Joan quoted a typical, lofty, but empty phrase that characterizes Obama's campaign rhetoric.

Once again, to quote from Dave Lindorff's excellent piece:

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff01312008.html

 "Change" is his mantra, but change to what? He doesn't really say. His whole campaign is a feel-good exercise in ducking the issues.

Obama's "change" rhetoric is as empty as was Ronald Reagan's talk about America's being a "shining city on a hill."

1:36 pm

Barack couldn't be where he is today without this guy. I truly believe it.

What I wanna Know. A diary and the speech.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/3/1...

Sitka and Joan, I hope your predictions for Tuesday are more accurate than mine. All the polls I see, seem to contradict each other.

I sure hope so. I love how you say the Clintons. So true. NJ is the poll that has tripped me the most. She was ahead by a good 30 points. I hope it's a real arse whoopin' on Tuesday in O's favor.

There are too many state polls for me to keep track of, but in every one I see Obama's is going up. And it's now a tie in the national according to your post on a previous thread.

I can get away with guessing an Obama rout because, as a non-supporter I don't have to play the expectations game.

(And used to refer to "Hillary" until  Bill got into the act in such a big way. That's when I started referring to "the Clintons.")  

We voted for Obama, though our vote for him does not count.   At least he made progress here, as Hillary's margin on exit polling by the time election day came was only 4%.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Floridagal my guess is that the Florida and Michigan results will end up in seated delegates since the result was so close as to not tip the nomination, so I'd play close attention to which individual people actually end up as the National Delegates. Florida will have a delegation and will only not have a say if it is the final say. Then all hell will break loose.

Obama showed great strength at the end and the party will see that as an opportunity to defeat McCain.

They probably will not be able to vote on the first ballot until the nomination is secured (put to the back of the line)

Giants 27 Patriots 24

I traditionally hate the Giants, but in this case would love to see NE's perfect season ruined.

"Change" is good enough if delivered by the grassroots, and it is how Obama wins if he pulls his come from behind upset. He is gaining every day and I think Joan nailed it, all he has to do is finish Tuesday within striking distance in the delegate count because then in a state by state race it comes back to his strength, and she will have lost hers which was inevitability. a tie goes to Obama

the movement Dean started lives to fight another day with an Obama nomination

His whole campaign is a feel-good exercise in ducking the issues.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

which only matters if he continues to duck them as President

if a candidate is who his supporters are, then they have more say after the election

what have you done for Obama today in Arizona?

I guess you weren't around the hundred or so times I've pointed out that I'm not an Obama supporter. 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

are there many progressive primary congressional contests in Arizona? one in your district?

Hillary (D-DLC) or Barack (D-Kumbaya)

What a choice! So It comes down to opinion as to who can beat McCain. And I think it will be McCain Romney ticket. The younger will take the VP position with McCain only having a 4 year term.

Zetta Bracher

Hillary (D-DLC) or Barack (D-Kumbaya)

What a choice!

Thank the corrupt and manipulative primary system for eliminating most of the candidates before the overwhelming majority even gets to vote.

Where it has failed this time is by there still being two choices, where it was supposed to be all over by now with Hillary being measured for her crown size. 

new hillary thread by an unknown poster.

Zetta I'll take Kumbaya over the DLC anyday, at least a campfire singalong is in the open not behind conference committee closed doors.

fyi - new Front thread

are there many progressive primary congressional contests in Arizona? one in your district?

I'm not a Democrat either. In fact, I will never serve as a telemarketer or harass people door to door in behalf of any candidate. People can decide who to do vote for or not without being badgered by me. I also think think sending people junk mail is a waste on so many levels -- so stuffing envelopes is out too.

I encourage everyone to vote, but if they need me to tell them who to vote for they possibly shouldn't. 

But you go ahead and have all the fun you want trying to manipulate people to do as you think they should. 

Gotta go. 

Yes it is wonderful and poetic but we need a strong leader who can take up the fight with the republicans. Obama hasn't been tested in an election. He ran against a weak and unfunded opponent in his Senate race in Illinois. Hillary has taken the hits from the right wingers  and Murdock, Fox and Coulter/Hannity) and remained standing. A vote for Hillary is a vote for leadership and strength.

I was just reading a few blogs and saw a suggestiong to vote for Yes We Can on VH1's Top Twenty. Unfortunately, the new Top 20 comes out on Saturday, but it is still worth seeing.

So, go to http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/top_20_c...

You'll see a list of songs on the left side. Below that list it says WILD CARD. You need to enter the song info--BAND NAME is will.i.am and SONG TITLE is Yes We Can. Then click ADD TO LIST. The song will then appear at the top of the list.

Then you have to click on YES WE CAN and drag it over to the #1 spot to the right. I believe you have to fill in all 20 spots, so click and drag any of the other songs into the other spots. Then below that click SUBMIT.

Hillary has been bought by big corporations. Her so-called experience includes a vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq. I cannot vote for her.

dfaROCHESTER member Sam F. came up with 6 great reasons to NOT support Hillary:

1. As a member of the Walmart board of directors she shaped policies which drove manufacturing jobs to China and closed locally owned business throughout America.

2. In 2005, long after the rationale for the invasion of Iraq was shown to be founded on lies, she continued to refer to the war (in a two page position letter to complaining constituents) as an "integral part of the war on terror." Given her intelligence and connectedness the only possible rationale for her position was the desire to look "strong on terror" as she made a run for the presidency. Excuse me, but human lives were at stake.

3. She voted for the Liberman resolution, giving Bush the green light to invade Iran. See rationale above.

4. She has taken more money from big corporations and lobbyists than anyone else. And they will expect a return on their investment. Whose country is this?

5. She evokes more hatred from the right wing than Osama Bin Laden. And this hatred will energize & mobilize their base and further divide the country. As many of you know, the right-wingers have made a scathing, full-feature movie about her, on the shelf and ready to go if she gets the nomination. They are far better prepared to swift-boat her than anyone else.

6. She represents the old-style Democratic machine, corporate-owned politics of the past, NOT the Howard Dean "democratic wing" of the Democratic Party.