This may have been previously posted, but Dean is first.

Howard Dean is first.

Michigan can allocate support with a caucus at the District Conventions on March 31st at no cost. That is how Iowa does it. Our primary is in June.

I find racism implicit in the notion that Barack Obama get to the back of the bus and accept the notion that a dream ticket has him in second place, when he is well ahead. Take that to Michigan or Mississippi and test market it. Oh wait, the Clinton's are. I find it one of the most rovian things they have done yet. "you aren't ready, boy"

Just heard the news at HEP.

So glad the Holly cow's baby was a girl. She can give milk in the future rather than be cut up for a steak :)

I agree with others on the previous thread that DFA should endorse a Presidential candidate.  I also think we should have paper ballots.  I want to make sure that no Diebold machines are involved.

GObama!

For levity?

I'm an experienced woman; I've been around...
well, alright, I might not've been around, but I've been... nearby.Mary Tyler Moore, Mary Richards (Mary Tyler Moore Show)
US television actress (1936 - )

oh, and the citizens of illinois elected another Democrat, Foster, to take the seat formerly occupied by hastert.

Vic DiMaio's "blood is boiling". He is suing Dean, and will get injunction to stop do-over in Florida.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1893

Three words for the Obama Campaign:

(ok four) 

CLINTON

CULTURE

OF

CORRUPTION

________________

CLINTON

CULTURE

CORRUPTION

Sing it:

CLINTON CULTURE OF CORRUPTION 

Russert has a much better panel discussion going on MTP than George S. did on This Week. 

Obama Does Better in Big States

Vic DiMaio's "blood is boiling". He is suing Dean, and will get injunction to stop do-over in Florida.

Perhaps Vic DiMaio has done a poll here in Fla and found that there is much more support for Obama than there was on Jan. 29 when Obama had only been seen in Florida once.

He may also know that if there is a real primary or mail-in that Obama will indeed be campaigning here once again and he probably knows by now that everywhere BO campaigns the polls go up further.

The Clintons had better be careful what they wish for.

In any event, I believe this whole mess is being created in part by the corporate media, not only for their bottom line but to split the Dem Party in two.

“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” ― Sir Benjamin Disraeli, England’s statesman [Jewish British Prime Minister].

“The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes.” ― Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

“We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

Phil, you are exactly right.

"you aren't ready, boy"

Ok, I can't make Archie's pic the link. 

From Alternet.org

http://alternet.org/blogs/election08/78911/ 

Monica wrote:

oh, and the citizens of illinois elected another Democrat, Foster, to take the seat formerly occupied by hastert.  

Which in turn has increased the required amount of pledged delegates to win the Dem nomination back to the previous 2025 number.

Howard coming up on ABC's This week. At least in the Mt. time zone.

Holly J

no news for others means another Robert was born. In China couples seem to strive for a son, but in the bovine world you want baby girls

the lastest technology in the dairy industry is sexed sperm and the prospective little "bobs"  get flushed down the drain  it is instead "Ms Sperm meet Ms Egg"

milk will be less expensive in a couple of years and steaks a little more so

breeders have been cloning cows for a few years now and the next generation are even now having calves, and I have three heifers on the ground that were mated to the sexed germ plasm, your namesake is from a line that was from an embryo transplant

We who sell milk should ask our customers whether that scientific advance offends them as much as the notion of making copies (the clones)did in surveys before it bites us on the grocer's shelf.

George Steph's panel was sooo bad I had to shift to FOX to get more balance.

G S panel is made up of very OLD timer political pundits that they are all Hillary supporters. They really don't understand the new politics of Dean or Obama.

California: No Constitutional Right to Homeschool Children

Associated Press
March 8, 2008

“Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children,” Justice H. Walter Croskey wrote in a Feb. 28 opinion for the 2nd District Court of Appeal.

Noncompliance could lead to criminal complaints against the parents, Croskey said.

The parents in the case had argued that they had a First Amendment right to home-school their children, but the appeals court rejected that argument.




“The parents in the instant case have asserted in a declaration that it is because of their ‘sincerely held religious beliefs’ that they home school their children and those religious beliefs ‘are based on Biblical teachings and principles,’” Croskey wrote. “[T]hose assertions are not the quality of evidence that permits us to say that application of California’s compulsory public school education law to them violates their First Amendment rights. Their statements are conclusional, not factually specific. Moreover, such sparse representations are too easily asserted by any parent who wishes to home school his or her child.”

The immediate impact of the ruling was not clear. Opponents said they would appeal.

The public school system (PSS) is there to dumb down children. The PSS is to socially control them ie. tell them what caste system they are in. It is not there to create leaders and people who can increase liberty in this country BUT to create compliant factory workers who never question the status quo. The PSS puts big blinders on your kids to what is really happening.

Our country is being taken over by “laws” which are not just. The powers that be are using unconstitutional laws and a corrupt propagandizing mass media to bring in their tyranny. Obviously, our judicial system has been corrupted. The governor has also been corrupted. These politicos have nothing to do with freedom and liberty but everything to do with tyranny and slavery.

Don’t be mesmerized by the word “law”. Change that word to unconstitutional law. Kids are not owned by the state. The parents decide where their kids are to be educated.

Time for millions of Americans to agressiviely say NO to these non-American judges and non-American laws. It will only get worse if we cooperate with this tyranny. Lets take our country back.

of course Hillary wants a do over, it is almost mathematically impossible for her to win the pledged delegates without Michigan and Florida being seated, and that she win them by a larger margin than when she was the only one on the ballot or Obama never campaigned

Obama needs to take that bet and insist it be done right now

Clarification:

I am not affiliated with the Obama campaign.  Any allegations of racism against certain individuals in the population are coming from me, and I'm white.

I am not accusing his opponent of being racist, just using a Southern Strategy.

_________ 

 This is why Republicans are afraid of Obama.  They haven't won without a Southern Strategy since ...well, never.

Holly J. congrats. Go for it girl.

Howard Dean in numero uno along with Howard.

Rooney is on a rant again.

Home schooling, I have seen these people in action. They are the Fringe, I mean the fringe.

Don't have to have a college degree?? What do they do all day?

create compliant factory workers who never question the status quo

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might have been useful for some back in the day when America had factories

Worst President Ever

Avenger,

thanks for the link to the "Big States" blog. If the figures are accurate, they should be printed on the front page of every newspaper and definitely sent to the Obama campaign which I may do myself.

Georgie (This Week) did not even have the courtesy to thank Howard Dean for coming on the show, simply dismissed him with the announcement that Carl Levin was to be on next. What a jerk!

GS also did not win any of his arguments though of course, but he ended with the last word as though he had and his smirky smile. Again, what a jerk!

Rush for biofuels threatens starvation on a global scale
Lewis Smith and Francis Elliott
Times Online
March 7, 2008

The rush towards biofuels is theatening world food production and the lives of billions of people, the Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser said yesterday.

Professor John Beddington put himself at odds with ministers who have committed Britain to large increases in the use of biofuels over the coming decades. In his first important public speech since he was appointed, he described the potential impacts of food shortages as the “elephant in the room” and a problem which rivalled that of climate change.

“It’s very hard to imagine how we can see the world growing enough crops to produce renewable energy and at the same time meet the enormous demand for food,” he told a conference on sustainability in London yesterday.

The Obama campaign agrees that Hillary had a starring role in Bosnia.  The trip where she said

I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo.

turns out to have been critical.  In fact, here is a photo from that trip.

Ben Smith at Politico supplies the details from the campaign:

Obama communications director Robert Gibbs emails reporters with a picture of Clinton,  Sheryl Crow [and comedian Sinbad] from a 1996 trip to Bosnia, linking a series of recent articles including this Chicago Tribune piece making the point that Clinton wasn't a central player on foreign policy in her husband's administration

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/8/201830/4601/372/472535

Senator Clinton claiming last Wednesday on CNN "I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland."  That is worth repeating, Senator is staking her word, mind you her credibility, that she played a role in the Ireland peace process.

Lets take a closer look below the fold.

• Heterodoxie's diary :: ::

According to Steven King, a negotiator with Lord Trimble’s Ulster Unionist Party, as reported in the Telegraph UK, "She was invited along to some pre-arranged meetings but I don’t think she exactly brought anybody together that hadn’t been brought together already," he said. Mrs Clinton was "a cheerleader for the Irish republican side of the argument", he added.

Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province.

This is nothing to do with alternate energy sources and everything to do with population control. Do not confuse control with reduction, as hunger is a means of control whereas starvation is a means of reduction.

America has hit several ’supermassive’ oil deposits in the past thirty years, most of which are considered classified and of strategic importance. Two such deposits, leaked to the press by a Chaplain are located in Alaska,

As with food, control of energy is Vital to the interests of the ruling elite. That is why we invaded Iraq, because of oil, but not to use it… to make sure no one else could use it. Once this modern nobility have control over the majority of the earth’s oil supplies, they will be able to regulate the global populations with devastating efficiency.

This of course also applies to the control of the world’s food production.
The elite have long since abandoned their attempts to control this precious resource via traditional means. This normally consists of purchasing farmer’s land, of using political leverage (ie.eminent domain or bribery).
Now the elite have taken to genetically modifying food that cannot be fertilized, will not produce pollen or see and is predatory in nature, supplanting native plant species and killing the bees that allow plant life to reproduce.
The economic ramifications of such genetically modified plants are vast and frightening as the nature of such crops and their higher yields forces farmers to use GM seed, thus propagating their spread and our dependence on such plants. But what if one day, Monsanto decides not to sell you the seeds, or agrees to do so at an unaffordable cost…. what will you do then?

The Arctic seed vault is a long way off, and where will you get the gas to go there?

Phil, Obama said he is going by the RULES of the DNC.

How great is that.

And our Virginia Dem Women's Caucus is going to be a sponsor at Democracyfest.

Wowser.

Re: Home schooling. Two of my grandsons were entirely home schooled and have done very well. However, both of their parents had college degrees and both had actually been teachers themselves. The parent doing the teaching should have a teaching degree or forget it.

Much of the home schooling is done for religious purposes while some is because the school system is not good. But any school system is better than having an unqualified parent attempt to do the job.

Obama Does Better in Big States

The talked about this on MTP. To make Clinton doing better in big states the Clinton campaign takes out IL because he has an "unfair" advantage-- but they don't seem to take out NY in the discussion.

It IS a very uphill battle when the old timers are in control of the media

I think Clinton will be out in two weeks. just my thought.

She is pulling stuff out of her ars. the last hurrah? kinda sad.

Good morning.

I agree with Phil's #4 post about Obama going to the back of the bus.

Obama needs to come out with a forceful statement on this not the namby pamby stuff he said yesterday.

It's sort of a *don't worry - he'll still be on the ticket* thingy. I don't like it. It diminishes him and they know it.

BTW, in my women's leadership group - which has a lot of women in Hillary's supposed demographic - there aren't any Hillary supporters. Some Republicans but mostly Democrats who are for Obama.

HI linda

I am going to go to Demfest this year. I was going to skip it because I will be attending the Dem convention with a friend of mine who is an Obama supporter.

But because my daughter lives in DC I can't pass up a visit with her and Demfest too!

F you, George Will.

"There's no new politics."

"Negative campaigning is redundant."

F you.  You represent the hope-crushing, cynical, status quo who loves the fact that in American politics, whomever has the most money to spread the best lies wins.

This is a     TERRIBLE  way to choose a President.

F you. 

The public school system (PSS) is there to dumb down children.
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ROFLMAO!! I've seen two types of Home Schooled kids: One set, whose parents are incredibly bright and have good reason to believe they can do better; the second set, whose parents are incredibly dull, but who don't like the idea that their children may be "taken away" by an unfiltered education.

The first group does okay. They second group is duller than the parents, and less able to cope with the world, peer group, and less able to function normally in any role available.

I'm confused and perhaps someone here can help me figure this out.

- Hillary supposedly leads Obama among lower income voters, by a varying margin - not sure of the % across the states that have voted, but it isn't by that much.

- Obama overwhelmingly leads in the black vote.

does this mean that,

1) only middle income and affluent black voters are going to the polls?  or that

2) these exit polls rule out the black votes when stating the number of low income voters?

I cannot believe that low income AAs are NOT going to the polls.  with this history making run by Obama, I find it hard to believe that so many more low income whites are voting as opposed to blacks.  I'd like to see the actual numbers to see if this becomes clear.

PA - I stopped watching George Steph. because of Cokie Roberts and George Will. In fact, I stopped watching Meet the Press. These people are stuck in the beltway.

My biggest disappointment is that someone got to Rachel Maddow this week. All of a sudden she's trying to be neutral. She's smarter than that and I'm so bummed about her.

Stephanopolous' Arcaine Panel only mention Obama's win in Wyoming as a throw-a-way line.

They are shilling for Hillary's imaginary "comeback."  It's all some kind of mediated, Wizard of Oz puppet-show.

 These dinosaurs on ABC should have really retired when they retired.

CLINTON CULTURE OF CORRUPTION

rhymes with

ON THE EVE OF DESTRUCTION

perhaps we need to rework that old song.

This is hilarious - the leaked memo from the DNC with future primary rules/plans.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

Voting will only be in 15 states. LOL Lanny Davis will be in charge. Another LOL

PA - Did you read Granny Doc's diary over at Daily Kos? She takes the media to task for their shilling. It's a good read. We must be vigilant. It's scary as hell.

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Progressive Avenger
Sun, 03/09/08

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CLINTON CULTURE OF CORRUPTION YES SING IT ON YOUR WAY TO VOTE FOR HER! BETTER YET HOLE YOUR NOSE THEN SING! LOL YOU ALL WILL SEE WHO IN CHARGE OF OF THIS CONUTRY ITS NOT YOU. FOOLS!! Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again. GW AN BFA O YES WE CAN.

The thing about the Clintons is that, like the Bushes, they don't care whether or not their deception is discovered.  They don't deceive to cover up their deficits and mistakes; they deceive to promote themselves.  This explains something that always seemed incomprehensible about the Clinton/Lewinski relationship--Bill's assertion that he knew Monica would talk about it incessantly and it didn't bother him.  That was true.  He never made any effort to hide his dalliances because he was keen for the notoriety.  He wanted to do just what JFK had done and he wanted people to know it.  And the reason is simple; it made him feel more important.

Hillary's the same.  Think of that "vast right wing conspiracy."  That was an exaggeration, for sure.

Hill and Bill are into self-importance.  That's what they're looking for from Obama.  He's got what they want, an adoring public.  So, of course, he's got to be brought aboard the Clinton train.

Parvenus!!  Low class. People who don't recognize quality. 

Oh, God! Predatory food. Guess I'll have to go commit suicide now. See you later.

Right, that's what we need

"a wee bit silly" Commander in Chief.  Now, would that be an improvement over the totally ludicrous chimp, or not?   

Marshall Grossman proposes an interesting theory on choosing the best candidate - stop campaigning and haul your a$$es back to Washington and let the voters decide who is working the hardest and doing the best in their CURRENT job.  it won't ever happen, but I think it would be great if it could.

maryvb,

When you play with corporations, you get corporati-ized.  Remember real journalism?

Media consolidation (anti-democratic) is another reason to not support the Clintons.

The two winners of the 2008 presidential election: fear and war
http://www.infowars.com/?p=637
Larry Chin
Online Journal Associate Editor
March 6, 2008

The 2008 US presidential charade has already been decided. Come November, the next White House occupant (who will be installed via political malfeasance, computer vote theft and other election “irregularities”) will be the puppet who proves to be the most effective in echoing Bush-Cheney’s “war on terrorism” lies, and expanding the Bush-Cheney “national security” agenda.

The American populace will bow to the “next Bush” who will “keep them safe” from “Islamic jihadists." Facing a new and increasingly brutal regime (probably under McCain), many brain-addled Americans will be stunned that “it is happening all over again," oblivious to the fact that their own acquiescence helped make it possible.

Washington’s bipartisan consensus “war on terrorism” deception

Amply demonstrated by the rhetoric of each of the prospective US presidential candidates, the “terrorism” lie is also the key to the election. The candidates know that the ill-informed US population remains petrified, and still thoroughly manipulated by fear of “another 9/11."

Okay, this is from the smarmy guy with the toe sucking fetish but it's a good read on Hillary and Obama.

http://thehill.com/dick-morris/its-over-...

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Iraq contractor indicted in cash smuggling case

Associated Press
March 6, 2008

SAN ANTONIO (AP) - A man who worked as a contractor in Iraq has been indicted on smuggling charges for allegedly sending $150,000 in undeclared cash to San Antonio.

David Ricardo Ramirez was indicted by a federal grand jury in San Antonio on charges of smuggling bulk amounts of cash and structuring bank transactions to avoid cash-reporting requirements. The indictment says the cash was sent in packages to his sister in San Antonio with jewelry, kites and T-shirts.

Authorities believe he spent the money on a condo in Austin, property in Val Verde County, a 1989 Lamborghini and a 2007 Ducati motorcycle.

Yesterday after our Women's Caucus we had lunch. All were for Hillary cept me.

But our chair is changing . she said she could not stand what Hillary was doing to Barack and the constant attacks.

The others were playing the whoa is Hillary meme.  I kind of stayed neutrel and used the obama points at the same time.

The fact that Bill and Hill are playing the "we might put obama on the ticket line" is hilarious.

Stick to the rules and see you in Denver.

Obama Will Not ‘Rule Out’ Private Security Contractors in Iraq

Jeremy Scahill
The Nation
March 6, 2008

Update from Jeremy Scahill: A day after this story went live on TheNation.com, Senator Hillary Clinton, whose staff refused for a week to answer my questions about her position on private security forces, released a statement announcing that Clinton is now co-sponsoring legislation to “ban the use of Blackwater and other private mercenary firms in Iraq,” saying, “The time to show these contractors the door is long past due.” Read her full statement here.

Her timing was interesting, to say the least. Why February 28, in the middle of a tough political campaign? Why not after last September’s Nisour Square massacre, when Blackwater operatives killed 17 Iraqi civilians? Or, better, before it? Regardless, this makes Clinton the most significant US political figure to date to issue such a call. We will be monitoring closely how much of a legislative priority this becomes for Senator Clinton.

*****

A senior foreign policy adviser to leading Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has told The Nation that if elected Obama will not “rule out” using private security companies like Blackwater Worldwide in Iraq. The adviser also said that Obama does not plan to sign on to legislation that seeks to ban the use of these forces in US war zones by January 2009, when a new President will be sworn in. Obama’s campaign says that instead he will focus on bringing accountability to these forces while increasing funding for the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the agency that employs Blackwater and other private security contractors. (Hillary Clinton’s staff did not respond to repeated requests for an interview or a statement on this issue.)

Fox pushing Rezko--calls is Revko.

The black-souled, evil Washington and Media insiders are foaming at the mouth overtime, because an honest man might become President.  What would that mean for all of their self-serving, greedy, unmittigated, evil corruption??

P.S. SNL, STFU! 

He wanted to do just what JFK had done and he wanted people to know it. And the reason is simple; it made him feel more important.
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Alas! HUGE difference between Marilyn Monroe and Monica Lewinsky. . . . . Perhaps it's the difference between Massachusetts and Arkansas?

This *should* be at least #64. . . . Can't have a conversation where peeps has to scroll back 20 posts to find you. By for now.

12:07 pm EDST

Howard was also on Face the Nation this morning.

I wish we would return to listing Howard's appearances on TV. I think the request to not do so by some on the blog because it was "advertising" the Corp. media was rediculous.

looks like snl is in the hillary camp.

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SNL knows instinctively that Hillary is more of a joke?

Alas! HUGE difference between Marilyn Monroe and Monica Lewinsky. . . . . Perhaps it's the difference between Massachusetts and Arkansas?

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great line puddle

throw us a link before you leave?

time to back to curses for the blog IT

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may a raccoon crawl down your chimney and die in your furnace

The first group does okay. They second group is duller than the parents, and less able to cope with the world, peer group, and less able to function normally in any role available.

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Having home-schooled my child in the past, I found that most of the parents to whom I spoke in this very progressive community (at the supplemental learning center for home schoolers in our town) stated that their biggest reason for home-schooling was that very reason you state for not home-schooling.

They found that their kids were pretty normal, pretty well-adjusted and were corrupted by the peer group mentality in schools today.  I know my daughter's attitude towards math was very healthy until she went to school.  That and bullying were the biggest reasons we did.

She is back in classroom school and the problems are still there but she is better able to handle it at her age, and she gets all A's and the best in the class in Math.

Morning Folks,

Attended the Colorado Assemby and Convention for the country yesterday.  We were at Fossil HIgh School, a green building that saved over $100,000. in untility costs last year.  There were 747 at the assembly, 697 at the convention, over half were first timers.  The convention votes for the presidential candidate; the assembly votes for the senatorial candidate.  It was an all day session if we attended both.

In the voting Obama received 482 to Clinton's 180.  Lots of enthusiasm.  The Democratic Party did wonderfully: catered lunch of ham and roast beef croissant sandwiches, sushi, potato chips, pickles.  Also iced tea, hot tea, coffee, and sweet rolls and power bars.  Many many volunteers did a wonderful job.

Obama will have 259 delegates; Clinton will have 97 delegates.  Many young people there, college students, young professionals.  It feels like a dawn after a terrible darkness for the last 16 years with materialism, imperialism, corporate malfeasance, insane ideologies.  It's almost not able to be articulated, just a freshness, an enthusiasm, a movement for a new paradigm in leadership.

To refer to the darkness: What must the world thinking of us that 1. We torture and use extraordinary rendition; 2. We needed to create a law to forbid it; 3. The President vetoed it; 4. The Congress didn't have the votes to override the veto.  What can twe be thinking of us?! Is this who we are?! 

#55 me, should read county, not country

bilary wins the democratic nomination and pick obomba as vise the dlc will seat fl and michigan given her the nomination. herold ford told howard dean today.dean will quit the dnc and get high paying job workin for bilary, and bfa will died also. its dead now but its on life support for the final show. its all stage!!!!!!!

To refer to the darkness: What must the world thinking of us that 1. We torture and use extraordinary rendition; 2. We needed to create a law to forbid it; 3. The President vetoed it; 4. The Congress didn't have the votes to override the veto.  What can twe be thinking of us?! Is this who we are?! 

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Pat

Congress can attach the anti-torture language as an amendment to the FISA bill

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Actually last night was payback time - they lampooned Hillary's ad - had he in a facial paste at 3:00 when Barack called asking her for advice, where's Bill? (out partying) and "the White House heat went off how do you get it on?"

Phil wrote,

"I find racism implicit in the notion that Barack Obama get to the back of the bus..."

I have no idear w/not anyone made note of the use of that phrase

IE go to the back of the bus

on MSNBC Hardball with chris mathews by Pat Buchanan, 

while positively spinning the attributes of a Clinton/Obama ticket.

 

Some good news

Toy Safety: Victory in the Senate!

Last night the Senate passed the Consumer Product Safety Commission Reform Act, a very strong toy safety bill, by a vote of 79-13. The bill now has to be reconciled with the weaker House bill, which passed unanimously in December. You can count on us to work to make sure the best parts of both bills are incorporated into the final version.

And, the final bill adds several provisions:

http://static.uspirg.org/consumer/archives/2008/03/senate_passes_m.html

puddle's correct.

... or i'd bother to converse.

FIX THE BLOG!

http://eatapyzch.blogspot.com/

Another article about the home-schooling case in CA ~ from 'Time':

This news raised a furor among home schooling advocates, including government officials. "Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what's best for their children," Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said in a statement today. "Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children's education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don't protect parents' rights then, as elected officials, we will."
http://tinyurl.com/3bmofc

The Home School Legal Defense Assoc. site which gives info on home schooling laws in each state:
http://www.hslda.org/laws/

People homeschool for many reasons ~ better socialization, because their district doesn't have challenging enough program, religious beliefs... Sure some are on the fringe, but they'd be fringes in a school setting as well.

Homeschooled kids tend to do very well ~ here's a nice concise article from the Seattle Times ( a couple years old but I'm on the run so I'm pulling from my files. Feel free to google for more current stats.)
http://tinyurl.com/9blvd

12:56 pm est

#65, A great idea, Phil.  That's what strategy is all about.  Would the Congress do this?

Foster takes seat from GOP

Democrat to succeed Hastert in Republican stronghold

By James Kimberly | TRIBUNE REPORTER

In a stunning upset Saturday that could be a sign of trouble for Republicans this fall, a little-known Democratic physicist won the special election for a far west suburban congressional seat long held by former GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert. ... full article: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/polit...

"There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women."
-- Madeleine Albright, Former U.S. Secretary of State

then she should be supporting Obama - he'll represent the people - real women - rather than the corporations.  guess there's a 'special place in hell' just for her, then.

I regard home-schooling as one of the more egregious froms of child abuse. Any parent who thinks he/she (or both) can do a better job than the school system exhibits a high degree of ignorence and arrogance--a deadly combination.

The people I know who home-school their children have a warped sense of values, and simply want to transfer that to their poor kids.

1:38 pm

Wow, Huron ~ I hope one day you can meet some of the wonderful folks out there homeschooling. Actually, think of listener ~ she homeschooled her kids and they are all highly successful adults ~ not to mention there isn't a wisp of ignorance, arrogance, or warping in her or her hubby. I implore you to take another look :-)

1:49 pm est

New thread

http://blogforamerica.com/view/24162#comment-1177857 

New thread :-)

1:59 pm est

Admitting a character defect---I am as hardcore a yellow dog Democrat as any. Dammit, if Mrs. Bill steals the process and the nomination, I promise I will only vote twice for the Democrats in downticket races, and leave nothing but a hanging chad and a nasty stain on the "For President" section.


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