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Howard Dean's 6/24 Radio Address

Written by: Jennie Lorain on Jul 3, 2006 11:33 AM EDT

This is from a couple weeks ago, but maybe some of you missed it. You can listen to the audio and read the full transcript here.
www.democrats.org/a/2006/06/dnc_...
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The parallels between the mistakes being made today in Iraq and the behavior of our government a generation ago are striking. Troops are sent to fight by an administration that refuses to listen to the advice of military leaders. The Administration decides it's ok to conceal information from the Congress and the American people. Promises like "stay the course" "Peace is at Hand" or "the insurgency is in its last throes" are made by an increasingly desperate Administration.
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The words "cut and run" don't belong in this debate. That's a disservice to our courageous soldiers. This debate is about not making the same mistakes our Government made a generation ago.

Democrats believe it's time for a new direction in Iraq that's tough and smart, and we offer America a security strategy that's tough and smart.

This is Gov. Howard Dean proud of our troops, and proud to be part of a party offering America a new direction.
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When George Bush's actions were making it increasingly difficult for me to proudly call myself an American, along came Howard Dean. When he spoke of the america that *could* be, he reawakened my patriotism. Maybe he awakened yours too.

This Independence Day, I am thankful to Howard Dean for continuing to give 110% toward restoring our country's greatness and our sense of community.

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By Imn2Paine on Jul 3, 2006 11:39 AM EDT
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Deaniacs, Common Sense, and the Second Continental Congress are First!
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By Monica Smith on Jul 3, 2006 11:39 AM EDT
Giving it a +2 to get it on the featured posts page

Wish there had been more discussion of the health-care thread.
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By mary vb on Jul 3, 2006 11:39 AM EDT
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Jennie Lorain wrote:

This Independence Day, I am thankful to Howard Dean for continuing to give 110% toward restoring our country's greatness and our sense of community.
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Amen!

Off for quickie family bike ride. Good day all!
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By * cChalfonte* on Jul 3, 2006 11:49 AM EDT
health care thread

I wish there had been more on that as well, monica.
fwiw, I gave it a 2+. How may 2+'s are required for
it to make the featured list?
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By FRED from OR on Jul 3, 2006 12:24 PM EDT
N. Korea warns of nuclear war if attacked By JOSEPH COLEMAN, Associated Press Writer
38 minutes ago

SEOUL, South Korea - North Korea would respond to a pre-emptive U.S. military attack with an "annihilating strike and a nuclear war," the state-run media said Monday, heightening anti-U.S. rhetoric amid close scrutiny of its missile program.

The Korean Central News Agency, citing an unidentified Rodong Sinmun newspaper "analyst," accused the United States of increasing military pressure on the isolated communist state and basing new spy planes on the Korean Peninsula.

The North Korean threat of retaliation, which is often voiced by its state-controlled media, comes amid U.S. official reports that Pyongyang has shown signs of preparing for a test of a long-range missile. North Korea claims it has the right to such a launch.

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060703/ap_...
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By Pat in Colorado on Jul 3, 2006 12:32 PM EDT
a nuts and bolts question

Good Morning Folks,

I have a question that perhaps someone can answer. How do you place a photograph in the profile file? I was able to put a photograph in the profile, but you have to click on it in order to see it. How can you place it so that it comes with the profile first?

Thank you Howard Dean. In the July issue of Harper's, Lewis Lapham compares Howard Dean unfavorably, and I add, unfairly with William Sloan Coffin Jr. I wrote Lapham, whose writing I usually admire and reread, that it was unfair, inaccurate, and dishonest; in my opinion, a cheap shot. What is it that people attack this man who has more courage, honesty, persistence, and political acumen than almost any politician I can think of.
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By puddle on Jul 3, 2006 12:46 PM EDT
Very slow blogging

this morning, eh?
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By * cChalfonte* on Jul 3, 2006 12:49 PM EDT
Bush, the MBA President

from the Los Angeles Times:

Conservative prof. chides Bush's management style.

Charles Kesler, a conservative professor at Claremont McKenna college, pens an op-ed in the LAT today, arguing, "[I]t's not clear that being a master of business administration has made [Bush] a better chief executive. ... Bush's management style is long on decisions and short on explanations. He's apparently better at listening to others than questioning their views."

It's hard to say what President Bush absorbed from his management studies. We can only draw inferences, though eventually historians may know more. Defending Donald H. Rumsfeld a few weeks ago, Bush said: "I hear the voices, and I read the front page, and I know the speculation. But I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the secretary of Defense."

Being the decider-in-chief suggests one paradigm of modern management: the executive who makes the final decisions, the tough calls. He "hears" and even listens to others before deciding, but the point of a decision (from decidere, "to cut off") is to be decisive, not to reason your way to a judgment that can be explained to others.

It leads to a disinclination to deliberate, a reliance on peremptory assertions of subordinates' good character to quiet doubt about their judgments, and a certain habitual speechlessness. On ordinary rhetorical occasions, Bush and his text seem hardly acquainted. On great occasions, he tends to overshoot the mark, calling for impossibilities such as an "end to evil." He lacks a rhetorical mean, much less the rhetorical mien that served Ronald Reagan so well.

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By * cChalfonte* on Jul 3, 2006 12:50 PM EDT
Bush, the MBA President (last)

Democrats usually turn for inspiration to universities and law schools (not exactly fonts of conservatism or even of moderation), Republicans to business and business schools. The GOP loves to call for applying the businessman's common sense to government problems. Rumsfeld, a former Fortune 500 executive, is applying business methods (just-in-time inventories, information networks, strict control of labor costs) to try and transform the Pentagon and, while he's at it, win the war in Iraq.

The precedents aren't entirely encouraging. In the 1960s, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara tried to revolutionize the Pentagon using the systems analysis techniques he'd championed in his former job as president of Ford Motor Co. He succeeded in discrediting himself, the techniques and the war he was trying to win.

Pray things work out better this time. In general, however, the analogy between business and politics so beloved by Republicans is a flawed one. At the simplest level, politicians report to a large electorate and have fixed terms of office; businessmen do not. And although the latter can hire and fire at will, the former cannot, and thus face vast, recalcitrant bureaucracies.

Second, government deals not merely with property, vital as that is, but also with life and liberty. Government thus involves issues of national defense, criminal justice and other "involuntary transactions" backed by a monopoly on the legitimate use of force.

(I'm reticent to include the link for fear of breaking the blog)

Off for the holiday.
Happy Independence Day to you all &hearts
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By * cChalfonte* on Jul 3, 2006 1:00 PM EDT
oops:( thought I had included the last parts:

from the LAT:

Third, though both pursuits involve self-interest, economic self-interest is less complicated. By contrast, there are many forms of political self-interest, frequently in conflict: Should you desire security or glory? Low taxes or a balanced budget? Much political skill must be devoted to persuading people where, exactly, their interest lies. (This is the rhetorical part, at which Bush doesn't excel.)

Finally, and most significantly, politics has to reconcile multiple goals -- consent, security, liberty, prosperity, justice, virtue -- in the presence of continuing disagreements about both means and ends. These inherent differences frustrate, eventually, all businesslike schemes of government. Too bad they don't teach that in business school.

(and now, off to the holiday)
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By puddle on Jul 3, 2006 1:05 PM EDT
Pat

Top of this page -->my account -->edit my picture-->browse. . . . find pic, upload.
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By Demetrius on Jul 3, 2006 1:34 PM EDT
Lieberman may campaign as independent

politics.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060703...;_ylt=AkV2nXmmcu7dsNMw6B2ztDKWwvIE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--

"By SUSAN HAIGH, AP Political Writer 7 minutes ago

HARTFORD, Conn. - U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, facing a stronger-than-expected Democratic primary challenge and sagging poll numbers because of his support of the Iraq war, said Monday he'll collect signatures to run as an unaffiliated candidate if he loses next month's primary. (click)"

What a slap in the face to the Democratic Party and Democratic voters in Connecticut. What he is saying is that he doesn't *care* what Democrats think. *JOE* holding on to power is the most important thing.
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By Monica Smith on Jul 3, 2006 1:41 PM EDT
by puddle*in*WV on Monday, 07/03/06

I think you also have to have images as a default.
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By former on Jul 3, 2006 1:49 PM EDT
"...Troops are sent to fight by an administration that refuses to listen to the advice of military leaders...."

by Jennie Lorain on Monday, 07/03/06 @ 11:33 AM

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This particular line in Dean's radio address implies that administration should of been listening for such an advice..., which at those time as everyone knows now was: "send much bigger number of troops...., something around 300-500 thousands...".

That in turn suggests that Demos as well as Reps, is, and always was, FOR this war.

Questions: can Demos ever win its base and consequently election with such a suggestion?
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By rich^kolker on Jul 3, 2006 1:50 PM EDT
The 13 Star Flag

I'm not giving up the 50 Star flag, but sometimes you have to accept the other guys have grabbed ownership of a symbol and grab ownership of your own. The "Spirit of '76" is the spirit of Howard Dean's campaign and of, at least, my efforts in politics, and so I proudly adopt the 13 star flag as ours. Let the other guys try to paint it as unpatriotic.
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By Demetrius on Jul 3, 2006 1:54 PM EDT
"Questions: can Demos ever win its base and consequently election with such a suggestion?

by Vladimir Kogut on Monday, 07/03/06 @ 01:49 PM | Rate this | Avg Rating: - "

Dean keeps saying that Democrats will be tough *and* smart. *Not* going in the first place would have been the best choice. But, once the decision was made to go they should have fought smarter. This would have meant *honestly* defining the job to be done and deploying whatever resources were necessary to get that job done. Then, there would be a chance of not being stuck in a quagmire.
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By former on Jul 3, 2006 2:08 PM EDT
by Demetrius on Monday, 07/03/06 @ 01:54 PM | Rate this | Avg Rating: -
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...and that is exactly what hypocrisy is, imo...
Even today Demos can't denounce this war..., they are just denouncing "the way it was fought"..., lol..., shameless, sorry..., can't win this way...
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By Pat in Colorado on Jul 3, 2006 2:09 PM EDT
Hmmm, still can't do it.

Hi Puddle,

Thanks for the response, but we're still flummoxed here. We just can't seem to upload the photograph so that it appears when the profile appears.

Don't know what to do. Don't quite know what it means to have images as a default.
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By rich^kolker on Jul 3, 2006 2:44 PM EDT
Photos

Pat,

What are you trying to do specifically?

What I did was:

Click on My Account (upper Right menu)
Click on Photo (upper right menu)

Then pick a photo (up to 2MB they claim)
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By FRED from OR on Jul 3, 2006 3:03 PM EDT
Sure to awaken the Schiavo issue

www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/...

Woman Details Her 20-Year Coma

NEW YORK, Aug. 4, 2005

(CBS) For 20 years, Sarah Scantlin was seemingly unaware of the world around her after she was hit by a drunk driver in an accident that sent her into a comatose state in September of 1984.

Then in February, she shocked her parents and doctors when she began to speak. In her first national television interview, after undergoing surgery on her long-unused limbs and speech therapy to unlock her long-dormant tongue, Scantlin speaks with The Early Show national correspondent Tracy Smith in a two-part interview to be broadcast Thursday and Friday.

Smith also speaks with Sarah's parents, Jim and Betsy Scantlin, who never imagined they would talk to their daughter again.
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By jc on Jul 3, 2006 3:28 PM EDT

Don't lots of people come out of comas? It's probably a different situation than Schiavo.

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By jc on Jul 3, 2006 3:30 PM EDT
50 stars

I don't concede the other side's "ownership" of the symbol.
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By rich^kolker on Jul 3, 2006 3:34 PM EDT
Flags

jc,

You can fight the harder fights or the easier ones. Your choice, but if you want to win, the easier fights make for easier victories. We could take the 13 star flag easier than getting the GOP to lose the 50 star one.

Basic marketing.
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By Joan* In*Florida on Jul 3, 2006 3:59 PM EDT
Sarah Scantlin was kept alive for twenty years because she had brain activity and there was hope for her.

Schiavo's autopsy confirmed that her brain was devoid of any activity and had no grey matter. So there is no similarity in these two cases. A few hardline fanatics will no doubt be prancing around the streets claiming otherwise.

It's wonderful that Sarah could finally awaken after all these years.
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By Cherie Haskins on Jul 3, 2006 3:59 PM EDT
FYI

All this week, c-span 2 = YearlyKos Convention
(reair; starting 4 pm eastern)

FYI
toniite - 8 pm eastern:
The Communicators - c-span 2
with Sen Dorgan on Net Neutrality
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By FRED from OR on Jul 3, 2006 5:13 PM EDT
by Joan* In*Florida on Monday, 07/03/06 @ 03:59 PM | Rate this | Avg Rating: -

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Thanks for clearing that up Joan, I was wondering about that. I wonder if the media will make the distinction?
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By Pat in Colorado on Jul 3, 2006 5:15 PM EDT
I think we did the same

Hi Rich,

Thanks for your input. I was off for awhile: dark clouds, thunder, lightning, little rain.

I think we did the same as you, but for some reason it's not in the profile when it comes up. It's there because you can click on photo, but how to get it to come up automatically with the profile, I haven't any idea.

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