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Written by: Chuck Watts on Mar 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT

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Class III Casinos Breaking the Heart of It All - What’s the progressive view?

The function of government is to protect and empower the community it serves. The National Gambling Impact Study Commission Report, first link. To protect our community from harm we must look out for one another. Chapter 1 - Overview. Calls for a moratorium, Time for a Pause, to study the problems, second link.

Here is an address by Dr. Earl L. Grinols concerning Class III Casinos, the type being encouraged by elected officials in Clinton County, OH, at this writing. This report on the classic predatory industry is devastating. It focuses on why any class III casino in any location is an exploitive business in the “wrong place, for the wrong people, for the wrong price.” I’m sending it to you as a resource in the context of the current local debate. A Union North neighbor has already found this expert compelling.

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To paraphrase the report, class III casinos draw 50% of their revenue from a 35- mile radius; add another 40% for the next 35-mile ring. The Argosy is 69 miles from Wilmington. Ninety percent of all casino revenues come from 10 percent of the population within that 70-mile radius, i.e. the wrong people. The beginning tax rate on casino revenues must start at 58% to cover all social costs of gambling, not including common wealth costs like taxes for roads, schools, i.e. the wrong price.

Dr. Grinols cites a 2005 Pennsylvania study that found that the top 1 percent of wagerers (problem and pathological gamblers) accounted for 39% of casino revenue and the top 9% accounted for 85%. Eliminate the local casino and these gamblers do not get on a plane and go to Vegas. The house always wins and the people always lose. I hope this information is helpful to you.

Dr. Earl Grinols has focused much of his career on fighting the expansion of casinos. What is your take of his article?

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Here is billionaire, Warren Buffett, speaking out against Class III Casinos in Nebraska.

Here is another paper from a different scholar from Massachusetts entitled Ante Up?. Conclusions start on p. 49.

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:01 AM EDT


How Low Can The Dollar Go? Zero Value

Lee Rogers
Funny Money Report
March 9, 2008




The people who are in control of the private central banks that fix the value of the U.S. Dollar through their policies are monopoly men.

The corporate controlled media is finally starting to talk about the economic problems that the alternative media and assorted precious metals advocates have been talking about for years now. We are facing a potential inflationary depression. Independent estimates of the M3 money supply show that we are seeing an annual increase in the M3 money supply by around 16 to 17 percent. The Federal Reserve chose to stop producing this report right around the time when these figures began going parabolic on their chart showing a massive increase in the money supply. An increase in the money supply results in a devalued currency and that’s one of the primary reasons why we are seeing the price of gold flirt with the $1,000 an ounce mark and silver explode past the $20 an ounce mark. The U.S. Dollar Index is now treading water around the 72 to 73 mark and it is becoming increasingly clear that the role of the world’s reserve currency is shifting from the U.S. Dollar to the Euro. Some ask how low the U.S. Dollar could go and that answer is simple. The U.S. Dollar could go to zero because it is a fiat currency with no real tangible backing. Every fiat currency in the history of man has been replaced or collapsed and there is nothing fundamentally different between the U.S. Dollar and these other fiat monetary systems of the past.

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:02 AM EDT

Drugs Found in Metro Watersheds

Associated Press
March 9 2008




At least one pharmaceutical or byproduct was detected in testing within the watersheds of 28 major metropolitan areas, according to an Associated Press survey of 62 major water providers and data obtained from independent researchers.

At least one pharmaceutical or byproduct was detected in testing within the watersheds of 28 major metropolitan areas, according to an Associated Press survey of 62 major water providers and data obtained from independent researchers.

Test protocols varied widely. Some researchers tested for more drugs than others. Thirty-five areas said they tested. Four said tests were negative and three said they were awaiting results. Twenty-seven locations said they had not tested watershed supplies.

Here’s the list of the 28 areas with pharmaceuticals detected, with the number found and some examples.

Arlington, Texas: 5 (unspecified drugs)

Atlanta: 10 (including caffeine, sulfamethoxazole, diltiazem, acetaminophen, trimethoprim, cotinine and paraxanthine)




Cincinnati: 4 (gemfibrozil, ibuprofen, sulfamethaxazole and ethinyl estradiol)

Columbus, Ohio: 15 (including azithromycin, erythromycin, roxithromycin, tylosin, ciprofloxacin, ofloxacin and caffeine)

Concord, Calif.: (unspecified drugs)

Denver: (unspecified antibiotics)

Detroit: (unspecified total; including carbamazepine, caffeine, cotinine)

Fairfax, Va.: 8 (erythromycin, lincomycin, trimethoprim, tylosin, ciprofloxacin, ofloxacin and sulfamethoxazole)

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 9:04 AM EDT

Howard Dean is first.

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:05 AM EDT

New York Cops Blame “Anarchists” for Times Square Bombing

Fox News
March 8, 2008




It should be noted that “chaos-crazed anarchy groups” have been linked to police departments in the U.S., Canada, Italy, and elsewhere around the world.

Investigators believe the bicyclist who bombed the Times Square military recruiting station is a local man with ties to chaos-crazed anarchy groups, a high-ranking law-enforcement source said yesterday.

The revelation opened a new avenue after a promising lead connecting the attack to a series of letters shipped to Washington lawmakers’ offices crumbled.

The official said the entire attack - including the dumping of the bike in a trash bin blocks away from the explosion - seemed well planned because it appeared the suspect scouted out his escape route.

“He seems to be toying with everyone,” the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.




Cops yesterday pored over dozens of surveillance tapes that tracked the bicycle-riding bomber from Times Square, across 43rd Street to Fifth Avenue and finally to Madison Avenue and East 38th Street, where he ditched his wheels.

Police recovered the blue Ross 10-speed in good condition in a trash bin and believe it was the one used in the attack early Thursday.

After the bike was tossed, surveillance footage shows the bomber walking with another person, although it is unclear if he or she was involved.
That’s right! How come they have dozens ‘of tapes’ [poster #9], and yet for MAJOR murderous events such as the Pentagon, the London bombing, etc, they either have ridiculously inadequate footage, or the ‘cameras weren’t working!’

Who are these people trying to fool?

Once they start blaming ‘events’ on patriots, etc, what’s the bet they will be ‘pouring over’ more footage from more cameras than you could imagine?

What happens if the guy on the bike turns up, WITH HIS BIKE

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:07 AM EDT

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dont you have cow to milk? lol

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 9:59 AM EDT

Great post Monica. Thank you.

Please recommend

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24176...

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:09 AM EDT

SNL spoofs Hillary Clinton’s 3AM phone call http://www.infowars.com/?p=699

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By Bob (NJ for Democracy) on Mar 10, 2008 9:15 AM EDT

I'll bet you 20 bucks these casinos are a problem.

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 9:16 AM EDT

The Chinese artificial manipulation of their currency to create exports for them has created an dysfunctional co-dependency of our currency in the race to the bottom for them and for us and the fact that they are holders of a big chunk of our debt means payback. Unfortunately the coming "boom" that will come as holders of dollars all over the world (mainly oil states) cash them out by buying up the remaining production capacity we have, and they will first buy up the financial stocks so they can also pocket the commissions.

From here on out for awhile all "growth" will be artificial.

As long as nobody panics and we all agree to relative partnerships of what a job is worth compared to what a house is worth compared to what an education or health care is valued at, our currency can probably bottom out at fifty cents in the next eighteen months, masking a rather steep recession and shifting the pain somewhat to suckers overseas willing to take our script.

It is all blips on a computer screen anyway for most of us.

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 9:17 AM EDT

I hire people to do the milking Daniel. Looking for a job?

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 9:19 AM EDT

Casinos pretty much kill tourism as people have that single destination and don't come back out til they have blown that day's budget. That is a safe bet, Bob.

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 10, 2008 10:10 AM EDT

Casino gambling?

The Teamsters are FOR Casinos in Massachusetts.

As I recall, we [my Local (25)] doesn't advocate gambling, but it recognizes that THE LOTTERY exits already in Massachusetts, and many "Mass-holes" travel to Connecticut Casinos and spend, spend, spend.

I can tell you that when I first came to this state, I could not believe the level of under-the-radar gambling, which took place.  I had seen movies where people would take their bets to "bookies," but I thought that was now a fiction.  WRONG!  ...and that's all I have to say about that, thank you very much.

But, here in Massachusetts - I AM FOR DEVELOPING CASINOS.  

Gov Duval Patrick (DFA-Endorsed) is leading the movement for legal Casinos.

My Teamsters Local 25 principal officer is joining the fight to help Duval.

Personally, I do not gamble - but an overwhelming number of folks here do.  Make it legal. 

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BTW my Teamsters Local has take on autism:

Fighting Autism with the Teamsters

 

 

 

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By Monica Smith on Mar 10, 2008 9:27 AM EDT

No, Tom, I don't subscribe to denunciation.  It's not possible to unring a bell, you know (in the sense of denounce being the opposite of announce) LOL

Let me repeat from bottom of previous:

It's funny.  Sometimes you're much more bothered by something than you realize.  I really didn't know why the Ireland story Hillary told in Nashua NH was so offensive until I wrote up the post.  I don't think much about the fact that there's a significant Catholic population in NH because I don't think of people in terms of categories.  But the Clinton campaign obviously did their research and tailored a story to the locality.  It cleverly reinforced the segregation theme.  Really despicable.  After it sits here a while, I'll post it on Bluehampshire.   

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 10:17 AM EDT

I don't have a problem with Indian Gaming.

Tribes are sovereign nations.

Most all Tribes are very worker friendly because a lot of Tribal members are also members of unions. The Indian Gaming Casino and Tribes in California treat their workers very fair because most of their workers are Tribal members. They even build green and use union labor.


The California Democratic Party Native-American Caucus is very active and I'm proud to be one of their members.

http://www.nativeamericancaucus.com/trib...

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 10:19 AM EDT

Native American Caucus of the California State Democratic Party

In support of Complaints against Public Schools For Use of "Redskins" Mascots

WHEREAS, The Native American Caucus of the California State Democratic Party is dedicated to promoting quality education in California's public schools for all students, including cultural awareness and education of the diversity of California's citizens both past and present. The term "redskins" has historically been used by non-Native Americans as a derogatory reference to Native Americans and, even when used in ignorance of this connotation, is offensive to many Native Americans; and

WHEREAS, The use of "redskins" as mascots by schools perpetuates stereotypes about Native Americans. The use of "redskins" as mascots by schools is likely to have a negative impact on the educational experience and self-esteem of Native American children and contribute to the miseducation of all students; and

WHEREAS, The use of "redskins" as mascots by schools is inconsistent with the affirmative obligations California's public schools have to combat racism and to minimize and eliminate hostile environments on school grounds and is an impediment to quality education about the diversity and richness of Native American culture;

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Native American Caucus of the California State Democratic Party hereby support eliminating the use of "redskins" as mascots by schools; and that the executive board and membership of the Native American Caucus of the California State Democratic Party direct that this resolution of support be submitted to Delaine Eastin, the Superintendent of Public Instruction for the California Department of Education; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Native American Caucus calls upon the Superintendent of Public Instruction: 1) to investigate any complaints received from the Advocates for American Indian Children or other persons concerning the use of such mascots; and 2) to exercise her authority under California Education Code S 233 (a) to request that the State Board of Education: a) adopt policies aimed at eliminating or restricting the use of ethnic or racial groups as mascots and the racial stereotyping that accompanies such usage; and b) establish guidelines designed to raise the awareness and sensitivity of teachers, administrators, and school employees to the potentially prejudicial and discriminatory nature of such mascots.

Submitted by the Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party

Adopted by the Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party at its State Convention, Anaheim Convention Center March 30, 2001

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:33 AM EDT

it is all blips on a computer screen anyway for most of us. come on specht you know better than that why lie? tell them the truth there money is worthless and we have no buying power, the dollar is in the tank, more money to buy less. sound good to me your full of shit specht your losing creditable with statment you make.

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By volney simmons on Mar 10, 2008 9:37 AM EDT

I personally feel that the beginning of our race to the bottom as a country was when we blessed gambling as a legal and harmless pastime. Oh, I'm sorry, we now call it "gaming" because, hey, it's just a game!!

Except it isn't and the majority of gamblers are playing with money that should be paying their mortgage or the utility bill, etc. I know because they say so.

I work in a low-paying service job and everyone I work with gambles all the time. When I worked in a high-paying corporate job, people only gambled like once a year or so, as a kind of special outing.

Gambling makes its money on the backs of the poor and only gives back to schools, etc. (in the case of state lotteries) a fraction of what it takes in.

The government laments citizens' poor track record with savings, yet the government does all it can to deter people from saving and to encourage them to rely on magical thinking instead.

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By Monica Smith on Mar 10, 2008 9:38 AM EDT

Actually, the function of government is to do the will of the people and deal with the vagaries of man and nature they find it difficult or impossible to deal with on their own.  What people do with their currency, whether they throw it in a fountain or on a gaming table doesn't fall into those categories in my estimation.

The argument that people have to be "protected" from spending their (?) money on gambling so they won't deprive their children of food is not persuasive because the cause and effect relationship is really thin.  There's no guarantee that if they don't do one thing, they'll do another, or vice versa.  It's hard to get people to do what you want. Even removing all other options doesn't guarantee it.  People may just opt to do nothing at all.

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:37 AM EDT

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I hire people to do the milking Daniel. Looking for a job?
i dont take dollars and who not looking for a better job? i bet there mexicans! there no small farmer anymore in america, who are you trying to fool?

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By Monica Smith on Mar 10, 2008 9:46 AM EDT

If money is worthless, why worry what people do with it?  I actually agree.  Money is like words; it mediates the transactions (transfers) of material things and ideas we engage in much as words mediate the transfer of our thoughts.  The quality of our ideas is not related to the quantity of the words we use; neither is the quantity of money related to the value of our actions or ideas.

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 10, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
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Do someting, pweeze. 

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 10, 2008 10:42 AM EDT

The Lottery is huge.

Black market gambling is huge.

The number of citizens of mass traveling to the Casinos in Connecticut is huge.

The potential of destination gaming tourism for Mass (already a tourism magnet in the northeast is huge.

The benefits of increasing jobs through gaming development in Mass is huge.

The dollars spent in Mass churn in Mass. 

I don't gamble, but a huge number of folks do and will always. 

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Mar 10, 2008 9:53 AM EDT

The casinos out here actually help tourism, not stop it. There is the one near where Susan lives in Coarsegold that is a stone's throw away from Yosemite (not that Yosemite needs a tourist draw), but it was a nice break to do something different.

Others are in the wine country, mega tourism there.

Maybe California doesn't make a good argument here as the whole state is a draw for tourism. I think we also have the most, around 33 across the state.

I visit them occasionally and if I wasn't winning I wouldn't. Maybe it's just luck.

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By Michael Ellis on Mar 10, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
If there were a joint ticket involving the remaining Democratic candidates, what would be your preferred combination for president-vice president?Clinton-ObamaObama-ClintonNeitherI don't care

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I voted...............neither

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By on Mar 10, 2008 9:55 AM EDT

Consumer Debt Grows to $2.52 Trillion


specht It is all blips on a computer screen anyway for most of us. tell that to these people!



In the early stage of a recession, consumers tend to rely on credit cards to see them through the hard times.

U.S. consumer borrowing rose in January as Americans spent twice as much on their credit cards as they did a month earlier.

Consumer credit increased by $6.9 billion to $2.52 trillion, the Fed said today in Washington. In December, credit gained $3.7 billion, less than a previously reported increase of $4.5 billion. The figures don’t include borrowing secured by real estate, such as home-equity loans.

People once dependent on home-equity financing are turning to other forms of short-term financing after the collapse in subprime mortgages made it harder to qualify for loans. Personal income in January rose at a slower pace than inflation, and credit card usage in January rose for a second straight month.




“There’s not much gas left in the tank,” said Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. in New York. “In the early stage of a recession, consumers tend to rely on credit cards to see them through the hard times.”

Economists had forecast January credit would expand by $7 billion, according to the median of estimates in a Bloomberg News survey.

After adjusting for inflation, spending stalled for a second month in January, increasing concern that the economy is headed for a recession. Consumer purchases account for two- thirds of the economy.

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 9:57 AM EDT

The local bookie is about to hit his busy season with March Madness. 

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By Monica Smith on Mar 10, 2008 10:01 AM EDT

It used to be that the supply of money was fixed by being tied to the availability of a relatively scarce metal, gold and then silver.  Various social groups then managed to manipulate that availability by withdrawing the metal from circulation by melting it down and and forming it into decorative objects such as religious artifacts or even covering over the domes of churches and mosques.

When the nations of the world decided to abolish the connection between currency and a 'precious' metal, that was a significant act which, interestingly enough, received little popular notice.  Even less noticed was the consequence that the value of currency would now be tied to human labor and more people being paid for their labor would increase the supply of money and, very likely, reduce the value of a particular currency in relation to others.  Eventually, the value of a currency depends on whether the people who use it are honest and can be trusted to deliver what they owe.  And that's where our current problem lies.  The U.S. can't be trusted. 

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By on Mar 10, 2008 10:00 AM EDT

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If money is worthless, why worry what people do with it? I actually agree. Money is like words; it mediates the transactions (transfers) of material things and ideas we engage in much as words mediate the transfer of our thoughts. The quality of our ideas is not related to the quantity of the words we use; neither is the quantity of money related to the value of our actions or ideas.
try buy gas with words monica! lol

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By * rdorgan on Mar 10, 2008 10:01 AM EDT

10:09 AM EST

http://www.suntimes.com/news/washington/833837,CST-EDT-laura10.article

Obama must keep on emphasizing the positive

March 10, 2008LAURA WASHINGTON...

Clinton broke Obama's winning streak last week by accentuating the negative. Her TV ads starring red phones ringing in the night and rhetoric about Day One readiness took a sledgehammer to those pesky judgment questions. Voters bought it.

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Obama's campaign has relied on uplift to get to where it is today. Clinton's new best friend is "Saturday Night Live's" Tina Fey. Girlfriend, if you want to adopt Fey's mantra, "-itch is the new black," go right ahead. It won't fly in Scranton, Harrisburg or Pittsburgh. Ohio is a nice shiny trophy, but it's looking awfully lonely up there on the mantle.

Electability and expanding the electorate are Obama's strongest assets. That's why the Republicans are rooting for the comeback kid. Obama makes the Republican Party elders break out in a cold sweat.

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Obama moves the Democratic Party into the White House, not the dog house.

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By mary vb on Mar 10, 2008 10:01 AM EDT

Good morning folks.

Well, as it turns out Barack Obama has quite a few military brass in his corner. So, today they will stand with him at his press conference. They think he has the right judgment to be the *Commander in Chief*. Take that, Hillary.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/10/...

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 10, 2008 10:56 AM EDT

When I go - along - to the casino, I might drop $20...and then I lurk ;-)

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 10:11 AM EDT

The Bush tax cuts ran up a serious deficit cutting the value of our money, and we suckered the Chinese into picking up the tab which was only fair since their currency manipulations were one ot the leading causes for our lack of real growth of jobs that created local value added and recycled in the economy, but the decline in standard of living has been masked by the fact that the Chinese junk people bought at WalMart were cheaper, even as they are not of the long term value of the clothing or shoes or household goods that had been made in America, and the current acct. deficit is also actually less expensive by the amount of decline of the value of the dollar. Oil producers are on to our sleight of hand and Daniel is correct in pointing out where this whole game with the currency bites us in the *ss. It is at the gas pump.

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By mary vb on Mar 10, 2008 10:17 AM EDT

Steve Grossman's letter to super delegates on making their decision to support Clinton. Democracy at it's finest...NOT. I never liked the guy.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2...

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 11:13 AM EDT

http://www.camajorityreport.com/index.ph...

CDP Chair Torres to Clinton and Obama: Keep it Civil

California Democratic Party chair Art Torres had wise words today for Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton:

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Friday called on Senators Obama and Clinton to keep their debate civil and focus on our common goal, which is taking back the White House in November. I strongly support Speaker Pelosi's comments. I urge each of our candidates to engage in a thoughtful and productive discussion of the challenges we face, and focus on our key differences with Senator McCain, who is making it very clear that he will offer our nation nothing more than a third Bush term."

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By Joan In Florida on Mar 10, 2008 11:22 AM EDT

There are adults-only casino cruise-like ships sailing out of most of the ports of Florida that go out just far enough to get beyond any state or local laws. I 'm not sure just how the profit benefits the state here, if at all, other than tourism which is there anyway.

I'm not a high-stakes gambler, I like to play the machines, but I can tell you that, if one is inclined to use some self-control and reasonable pre-planning, you can have a terrific day trip on the ocean on one of these day-trips. They offer great free breakfasts and luncheon buffets with everything from peanut butter crackers to caviar. Only the drinks cost money.

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By on Mar 10, 2008 10:32 AM EDT

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sorry hq i forgot about the children here! the jury will disregaurd that statment to late they hear it! paine go play with your blocks.lol

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By on Mar 10, 2008 10:36 AM EDT

Imn2Paine want to fight autism stay alway from vaccines and dont give them to your kids.

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By Joan In Florida on Mar 10, 2008 11:28 AM EDT

CDP Chair Torres to Clinton and Obama: Keep it Civil

The problem with that wish is that it should have been directed at Clinton only.

Obama had a civil campaign going until the Clintons' desperation turned them ugly. When one is attacked as Obama was, he must answer back or be criticized for not doing so (Swift Boating). And when you answer back, it cannot be nicely as apparently Torres thinks it can.

Chair Torres should have spoken up many weeks ago when the Clintons began it all with the "fairy tale" stuff.

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By Monica Smith on Mar 10, 2008 10:47 AM EDT

There's no need to gamble or game on one of those casino boats.  We took one out of Brunswick Georgia and it was a grand trip--threw bread to the sea-gulls flying after us.  Didn't see any dolphins, but could have.  They just weren't around that day.

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 11:35 AM EDT

Steve Grossman is a former president of AIPAC.

Grossman was out in California a few times during Dean's campaign in 2004 to speak to the grassroots before Iowa. I was not impressed with the hack but he was better than Trippi. He was just interested in our fundraising abilities not our organizing. Frankly I got the impression that he was totally clueless on how to do grassroots organizing. It's no wonder he got canned.

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By Joan In Florida on Mar 10, 2008 11:37 AM EDT

Ha! Gotta love this Barack! Go see the map on his website where he has rightfully claimed his half of Texas:

http://origin.barackobama.com/resultscenter/

While there why not hit the "Donate" button as well. Keep this thing going strong for him.

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By Michael Ellis on Mar 10, 2008 10:55 AM EDT
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Theres a big spender.........on a cruise, I gave my wife $20, told her to have fun in the casino...I grabbed a rum n coke, a cigar.......and sat on the deck to a beautiful sky.........the cost?  $7 for the drink (I brought my own Food Lion cigar)

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By jane d on Mar 10, 2008 10:58 AM EDT

Casinos are a tax on people who don't understand math.
The Lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math.

and, when you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count Paul's support!
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By Joan In Florida on Mar 10, 2008 11:51 AM EDT

'3 a.m.' girl might make ad for ObamaAnd Casey herself told ABC-TV's Good Morning America Weekend that she's been contacted by the Obama campaign about the possibility of doing an ad for him.http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/3-am-girl-might.html

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By * rdorgan on Mar 10, 2008 11:03 AM EDT

11:12 AM EST

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm feeling like it's Dec 2000 all over again, where the CM is getting antzy, causing the American public to get antzy, and on down the line.  The message is that they want the dem nomination process to end shortly, with a Clinton corination.

The problem is this though, Ms. Daisy will have to find another driver.  Hoke has been and is still running for president.

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By * rdorgan on Mar 10, 2008 11:21 AM EDT

11:32 AM EST

"Big States" vote breakdown:

State Obama Clinton

California 2,126,000 2,553,000
Texas 1,358,000 1,459,000
New York 698,000 1,003,000
Illinois 1,302,000 662,000
Ohio 982,000 1,212,000
Georgia 704,000 330,000
New Jersey 492,000 603,000
Virginia 627,000 350,000
Washington 354,000 316,000

Fianl Total Obama Clinton

8,643,000 8,487,000

Barack Obama LEADS:
a) Delegates
b) Primaries
c) Caucuses
d) Money Raised
e) Donors
f) Votes from big states
g) Popular votes
h) Senator endorsements
i) Governor endorsements
j) Most states won

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By Phil Specht on Mar 10, 2008 11:23 AM EDT

Clinton supporters keep pulling up statewide voting totals when they really don't matter in the delegate selection process in most states (if any).

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By Pat in Colorado on Mar 10, 2008 11:28 AM EDT

Good Morning,

An article from Truthout revealing that 16,000 Republicans voted for a Democrat in the Ohio primary.  Some followed Rush Lmbaugh's suggestion.

 

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031008J.shtml
 

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By Michael Ellis on Mar 10, 2008 11:28 AM EDT

Tonite, Michelle Obama will be on Larry King at 9pm EST......

Its 11.40am

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 12:29 PM EDT

During the last election we had several propositions on our ballot about one of California's Tribal PAC's contract which I endorsed and worked on to get passed. We won big on all of them because is was the right thing to do and we were the ones who told the truth. Those who were against them were either uninformed or just plain lying to good folks. One union was fighting with another union's right to organize. The unions fight with each other out here a lot. When they do that is makes me very sad. It hurts the labor movement as a whole IMHO. I was raised in the union movement. The interesting thing was that the one union against the contract (which btw, had already been passed by the state legislature and sign by the governor) had not even ask these Tribes to organize workers in their casinos. The other union already had a contract which they had negotiated with the Tribal PAC. The opposing union thought the state should negotiate union contacts for the Tribes. That just isn't a State's job to do. Tribes are Sovereign Nations. The opposing union's efforts were being funded by a casino and a race track owner in the state of Nevada. Go figure.

Tribal gaming is great for our state's economy and tourism. Our tribes help to fund conservation efforts, education, healthcare, law enforcement and transportation for everybody in their communities. They also contribute to the Democratic Party and candidates. They do wonderful reform work on poverty, homelessness, alcoholism, domestic violence and women's rights.

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By dog soldier on Mar 10, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
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By dog soldier on Mar 10, 2008 12:42 PM EDT

I dont see a problem with Casinos. No one has a right to limit how folks spend their money. Everyone is responsible for their own actions and should suffer consequences. Where I have problems is the suffering of innocents. If dad wants to blow everything at the crap tables in Vegas, it is not my concern. When he loses the house payment money or his kids cant afford food, clothing, or medical care, then it becomes my problem.
Society has to step in and take care of the aftermath; but not before. Casinos should not be banned. Abusers must pay their obligations either by garnishment or fines.

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 12:56 PM EDT

State voters back Indian gambling measures

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...

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By Monica Smith on Mar 10, 2008 12:10 PM EDT

Right dog soldier.  Fit the punishment to the crime and the criminal.

Speaking of punishment, have you all seen 'American Gangster"?  Denzel Washington and Russel Crowe, I think.  It's based on a true story.  The cop, Crowe, is ostracised by his colleagues because he finds a million dollars in the trunk of a car and turns it in--because it's the right thing to do.  The real gangster survived to get out of prison and be interviewed.

I was impressed because I've only recently really realized that good people are often punished for doing good.  Bad people, like the elite, don't like good people or equality.

Maybe bad people, are simply people who are into being superior--not like people who do bad things because they don't know any better.  Our prisons are full of the latter.  The former run our corporations.

Ain't that a fine kettle of fish. 

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By mary vb on Mar 10, 2008 12:59 PM EDT

new thread.

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By dog soldier on Mar 10, 2008 1:01 PM EDT

The root cause of our current economic problems is loosing out to the free traders instead of fair traders. Tariffs are needed to offset the unfair advantage of countries who sacrifice their populace for market share. If we slapped a tariff on Chinese-made consumer goods that raised the price of those toasters 10 %, we would start to see manufacturing return to this country. It isnt the manufacture of low-end consumer goods that hurts us. It is the off-shore sales of tool and die machines, injection molders, etc. that hurt us. It is the march toward more energy-saving and more precise cutting, grinding, milling, and extruding machines that limit the improvements in manufacturing processes. Having been in and out of the high-end machine-tool business, the future for high-end manufacturing looks bleak unless we can remove the chokehold free traders have on international commerce. We have labor arbitrage where jobs are traded for goods. The usual response is the workers in these countries will revolt and demand change. Before we expect foreign workers to do that, perhaps we would like to see a stronger labor movement in this country.
The trouble with a military-based economy is most products dont benefit the consumer. Seen many stealth airliners lately? Improvements in brakes and safety systems are useful. How about the need for that high-powered sniper rifle? Deer hunters of the world want that bad boy. There used to be a lot of technology spin-offs (see NASA Tech Briefs), but fewer and fewer programs generate useful commercial applications. Maybe we can put M1A1 armor (stell cased depleted uranium) on the family auto. Thatll stop the guy with the high-powered scope.

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 10, 2008 1:11 PM EDT

Video - Wind Power Project; California and the American Dream; Hotel San Diego Demolitio

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...+Indian+Tribes&total=66&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9

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By Chuck Watts on Apr 19, 2008 7:16 AM EDT

Volney, Thanks for your reply. I want ethical businesses in America and especially in Ohio, where class III casinos are trying to come into the state. Ethical businesses understand the market as one way to enhance the common good by expanding our common wealth. Casinos constitute a market failure because it subsidizes a few casino owners at the expense of our common wealth, the public health of our neighbors. If you know anyone in Ohio, please encourage them to work against amending our state's constitution in the Fall. Thanks, Chuck Watts

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