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Failure of Center-Right Conservative Values, Principles, Ideology, Philosophy & Polices
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In the face of a great defeat, conservatives have their new talking points. They are trying to make the case that America is really a Center-Right country. See this video from ThinkProgress of how conservatives are trying to make the case.
Center-Right Country Watch: Conservatives Grasping At Straws
What Conservatives fail to acknowledge is that Center-Right Values, Principles, Ideology, Philosophy & Polices have failed and that the country is looking for a new direction. In case they need some help in understanding this, they can always listen to what people say about Center-Right Conservative values below.
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Failed Conservative Values: Bill Honigman on Restrictive Intolerance and Porcupines
Linked to groups: East Bay for Democracy, Oakland DFA Meetup, Lake Park, San Francisco for Democracy, Alameda for Democracy, California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, Capitol Area Progressives (CAP) , What are Progressive Values? Study Group, DFA-Link Organizers, Walnut Creek DFA, Blog For America, Blogs United, DFA Film Club, DFA-Marin, DFA Night School, Silicon Valley DFA, brought to you by Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, Framing Committee, Florida DFA, NJ for Democracy, Democracy for Florida, Democracy for New York, Democracy for Texas, Democracy for NYC, PA for Democracy, Democracy for Washington, Sacramento For Democracy, Democracy for Illinois, Democracy for Maryland, Philly for Change, Democracy for Ohio (DFO), Democracy for America Miami-Dade (DFAM), Washington Fair Elections, Michigan Democracy for America, DFALA, DFA at Netroots Nation (formerly YearlyKos) July 17-20, blog for America Test and Poll Group
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I interviewed Bill Honigman, who is the California State Coordinator of Progressive Democrats of America (PDA). He said conservatives are restrictive and intolerant like porcupines. While he doesn't think the values of individual conservatives have failed, he feels the values of the conservative movement have failed. I have to disagree with him there. I feel that individual conservative values have manifest themselves in the conservative movement and individual conservatives need to take 'individual responsibility' for these failures.
Failed Conservative Values - Bill Honigman on Restrictive Intolerance
Conservatives tend to, in the nicest use of the term, want to conserve what they’ve got. And so they are looking to hang on to, say their property, or their bit of family and what they perceive of as their family’s rights in a kind of identity of self that way. It’s a little too, as far as I’m concerned, restrictive, meaning they’re not willing to reach out to people outside of their circle. And to me that’s probably a fundamental difference.
In the concept of rounding up or circling the wagons and taking a little too much and being too guarded about themselves, and not being willing to share with their community. And that translates into things like not wanting to contribute to, say, things like education and the infrastructure, and the whole tax revolution that occurred in this country in the last 30 or 40 years. It’s all about people saying, “I’m tired of giving of myself. I don’t seem to be getting back in return.”
They just want to hang on to what they have. And instead of saying to build society will require an investment, and maybe we just need better caretakers of the investment instead of not giving money and our own resources.
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Failed Conservative Values: Markos (Kos) Moulitsas on Self-Delusion
Linked to groups: East Bay for Democracy, Oakland DFA Meetup, Lake Park, San Francisco for Democracy, Alameda for Democracy, California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, Capitol Area Progressives (CAP) , What are Progressive Values? Study Group, DFA-Link Organizers, Walnut Creek DFA, Blog For America, Blogs United, DFA Film Club, DFA-Marin, DFA Night School, Silicon Valley DFA, brought to you by Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, Framing Committee, Florida DFA, NJ for Democracy, Democracy for Florida, Democracy for New York, Democracy for Texas, Democracy for NYC, PA for Democracy, Democracy for Washington, Sacramento For Democracy, Democracy for Illinois, Democracy for Maryland, Philly for Change, Democracy for Ohio (DFO), Democracy for America Miami-Dade (DFAM), Washington Fair Elections, Michigan Democracy for America, DFALA, DFA at Netroots Nation (formerly YearlyKos) July 17-20, blog for America Test and Poll Group
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I interviewed Markos (Kos) Moulitsas, founder of the Dailykos.com and asked him about the failure of conservative values. For him, the conservative value of self-delusion was the greatest failure. He says conservatives value their ideology over actual reality and he pointed out a series of examples of how this ideology ignores reality.
"As long as our civilization is essentially one of property, of fences, of exclusiveness, it will be mocked by delusions." Ralph Waldo Emerson
Failed Conservative Values: Markos Moulitsas - Self-Delusion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=figH0eedcMY
Edwin: Have conservative values failed?
Markos: Oh, yeah, the failure of conservative values, the bottom line is that it has no bearing on reality. They created an alternate reality – cut taxes, lower the deficit, balance the budget – where global warming did not exist, where the world was invented 6,000 years ago, where science is bogus, where the best way to educate kids is to defund the schools.
And this is the comeuppance. When you base your reality on an ideology that has really no basis for reality, you’re doomed to failure. When you have an ideology that says that government cannot work, you have to by default run a shitty government. What’s the alternative?
Let’s say George Bush says the government can’t work, we need to shrink it. So, when I appoint my director of FEMA, instead of appointing a horse lawyer, I’m going to appoint an experienced administer who knows about disaster management and logistics planning. So when Katrina happens, the government does a fantastic job, making people’s lives better.
Suddenly, you have sort of a collision of ideologies. When you say government can’t work, and you have government that works, where does that leave the conservatives? In a really, really piss-poor place.
So, by default, Bush had to appoint the horse lawyer to FEMA, I could go down the list – in department after department it’s scandal after scandal. I mean, it’s all because he appointed people who are not qualified. Because they need to fail, they need to prove that government cannot work, and the way you prove government does not work is by running a government that does not work.
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Sorry America, its not new to us. (on the mcCain/Palin smear events)
Linked to groups: Democracy for America - Georgia Chapter, Georgia for Democracy, Blogs United, Jonesboro DFA, Morrow DFA, Peachtree City DFA, Stockbridge Progressives, Blog For America, DFA-CFD of Fresno & Madera Counties, Democratic Club of Coarsegold, DFA-CFD of Mariposa and Tuolumne Counties , California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, DFA Blog Network, Northern California Trained Activists, DFA Trust, Reproductive Rights for America, blog for America Test and Poll Group, DFA of Chowchilla, Latinos for America, Netroots Activism!, DFA of Stanislaus County
Being Chairman of the Henry County Democratic party has taught me a lot about organizing. But it is not surprising to watch the tone and invective that has appeared in the past week. Fear tactics, intimidation, and personal threats that lie just below the surface of far too many Republicans is something Democrats here in the South find to be quite common. I saw it as a human rights organizer after 9/11, as an anti-war organizer in the run up to the war, and have watched it grow during this campaign.
After the conservative take over of the Republican party, the base of that party is fixated on beliefs that have no bases in reality. They hold these beliefs very strongly and it resonates within the culture here at a near pathological state.
Its important to note the pathology--these are good people, they work hard and try to live upstanding lives. But in the midst of fear, and lacking the security of knowing things are going to be okay, that pathology starts to surface. Traitor, Communist, unamerican, the devil, satanist, f---'in coward; I've been called all these things right to my face by men far larger than myself swinging their arms in an erratic style. The aggressive postures, the tone, lack of any valid reasoning's for their beliefs has caused many who support getting affordable health care, a sane foreign policy, or books in our schools, to stay silent. I have citizens who want to volunteer for the Democrats but are terrified that their neighbors will find out they are a democrat and will therefore not do anything that can connect them to the party or Obama.
Haven't you seen the emails-- Obama is a terrorist, Obama is a socialist... why haven't you heard Obama Osama, isn't that clear enough! Our way of life is at risk, it reads. I knew the "kill him," "terrorist" screams at recent events were on their way when my nephew sincerely asked me what I thought about people saying Obama is the anti-christ. He truly wanted to know what to think of this, you could see it in his eyes. And the reason he was curious was because kids can see when people are serious in their beliefs. Just below the surface of every smear email, or chuckle from a joke at a dinner party is someone who at some subconscious level is fearful and doesn't know how to protect their families from the outside world. I responded without blinking an eye and in a very serious tone said, "they have no integrity."
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Palin Protest - Orange County, CA 10/4/08
Linked to groups: Moreno Valley DFA, Redlands DFA, Take Back Red California, DFA-Link Organizers, Training Academy Alumni, Class of 2007, DFA Highland , DFA Campaign Academy Alumni, California for Democracy, DFA-CFD of Fresno & Madera Counties, Democratic Club of Coarsegold, Courage Campaign, DFA Blog Network, DFA of Chowchilla, DFA-CFD of Mariposa and Tuolumne Counties , DFA of Stanislaus County, Blog For America, blog for America Test and Poll Group, Southern California for Democracy, Democracy for America - Orange County
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From: <Felicitynf@aol.com>
Date: Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Subject: Palin protest this Saturday, Oct. 4, 3:30 at Segerstrom Hall
To: OCProgressiveChristians@yahoogroups.com
Here is the most recent word regarding the Palin appearance in Orange County. People are asked to be there at 3:30. I am including the original invitation as an attachment.
Palin IS coming to OC for a fundraiser and has rescheduled for Saturday, 10/4.
Let's keep up the momentum, re-group, get our signs, and bring our voices ready to be heard!
Saturday, 10/4, 3:30, Town Center Dr. , Costa Mesa
We hope to have a significant turnout; we've been in contact w/ the CA Dem Party, Move-On, Code Pink, The Liberal OC, NB Women's Dem. Club, and other supportive organizations!
We're making headway in the polls, and need your support, for the rally, and by donating to the campaign!
Please forward to every liberal you know in S. CA and to any liberal groups you may be aware of to help get people out and support!
Event is as follows:
- 10/4 for protest/rally outside Palin's fundraiser at Segerstrom Hall, 3:30, Town Center Drive
Original invite available here: http://files.meetup.com/311075/10-4-08OCReceptionInvite1.pdf
Fresno, CA -- "We say, Bailout Main Street NOT Wall Street"
Linked to groups: DFA-CFD of Fresno & Madera Counties, Democratic Club of Coarsegold, California for Democracy, DFA Blog Network, blog for America Test and Poll Group, Blog For America
SunMt videographer Elfie Ballis reported on our local "STOP The Bush Bailout" emergency coalition rally that was held on Peace corner (Shaw & Blackstone) in Fresno, California.
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Video: Obama-McCain - DFA Debate Watch Party - Sept 26 2008 in Berkeley CA
Linked to groups: East Bay for Democracy, Oakland DFA Meetup, Lake Park, San Francisco for Democracy, Alameda for Democracy, California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, Capitol Area Progressives (CAP) , What are Progressive Values? Study Group, DFA-Link Organizers, Walnut Creek DFA, Blog For America, Blogs United, DFA Film Club, DFA-Marin, DFA Night School, Silicon Valley DFA, brought to you by Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, Framing Committee, Florida DFA, NJ for Democracy, Democracy for Florida, Democracy for New York, Democracy for Texas, Democracy for NYC, PA for Democracy, Democracy for Washington, Sacramento For Democracy, Democracy for Illinois, Democracy for Maryland, Philly for Change, Democracy for Ohio (DFO), Democracy for America Miami-Dade (DFAM), Washington Fair Elections, Michigan Democracy for America, DFALA, DFA at Netroots Nation (formerly YearlyKos) July 17-20, blog for America Test and Poll Group
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The Oakland DFA held a very successful debate watch party in Berkeley, CA with it's greatest meeting turnout yet. Community members came out to support Barack Obama and Progressive Values.
You can see the video below to get a flavor of the event along with participant expectations and their evaluations of the debate.
Video: Obama-McCain - DFA Debate Watch Party - Sept 26 2008 in Berkeley CA
Edwin Rutsch
What Are Progressive Values? Documentary Project
ProgressiveSpirit.com
and Study Group
Progressives Blast Failed Conservative Values! Part 2
Linked to groups: East Bay for Democracy, Oakland DFA Meetup, Lake Park, San Francisco for Democracy, Alameda for Democracy, California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, Capitol Area Progressives (CAP) , What are Progressive Values? Study Group, DFA-Link Organizers, Walnut Creek DFA, Blog For America, Blogs United, DFA Film Club, DFA-Marin, DFA Night School, Silicon Valley DFA, brought to you by Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, Framing Committee, Florida DFA, NJ for Democracy, Democracy for Florida, Democracy for New York, Democracy for Texas, Democracy for NYC, PA for Democracy, Democracy for Washington, Sacramento For Democracy, Democracy for Illinois, Democracy for Maryland, Philly for Change, Democracy for Ohio (DFO), Democracy for America Miami-Dade (DFAM), Washington Fair Elections, Michigan Democracy for America, DFALA, DFA at Netroots Nation (formerly YearlyKos) July 17-20, blog for America Test and Poll Group
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All the links didn't fit in the last post so here is part 2:
I've been asking people about the the failure of conservative values. Here are links to the latest batch of interviews that I just placed on Youtube. The failed values that come up are quite varied, but those sighted most often are fear, hypocrisy, conservative family values, division, rigidity, hyper individualism, self-delusion, etc. I also ask people to create a metaphor of what the Failed Conservative Values are like. These metaphors are often quite revealing.
In our Progressive Values Youtube group, we now have over 600 video clips of progressives talking about their values and telling how they feel conservative values have failed.
Here's the list of newly added interviews related to the failure of conservative values. Most of these were done at Netroots Nation 2008.
PArt 2: Progressives Blast Failed Conservative Values!
Failed Conservative Values: Wolf Man Spike - Mind Control
Failed Conservative Values - Jeremy Koulish - Hyper Individualism
Failed Conservative Values - Al - Polarization Bulldozer
Failed Conservative Values: Kimberly Yaman - Everyone has Values
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Progressives Blast Failed Conservative Values! Part 1
Linked to groups: East Bay for Democracy, Oakland DFA Meetup, Lake Park, San Francisco for Democracy, Alameda for Democracy, California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, Capitol Area Progressives (CAP) , What are Progressive Values? Study Group, DFA-Link Organizers, Walnut Creek DFA, Blog For America, Blogs United, DFA Film Club, DFA-Marin, DFA Night School, Silicon Valley DFA, brought to you by Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, Framing Committee, Florida DFA, NJ for Democracy, Democracy for Florida, Democracy for New York, Democracy for Texas, Democracy for NYC, PA for Democracy, Democracy for Washington, Sacramento For Democracy, Democracy for Illinois, Democracy for Maryland, Philly for Change, Democracy for Ohio (DFO), Democracy for America Miami-Dade (DFAM), Washington Fair Elections, Michigan Democracy for America, DFALA, DFA at Netroots Nation (formerly YearlyKos) July 17-20, blog for America Test and Poll Group
Linked to campaigns: Obama for America
I've been asking people about the the failure of conservative values. Here are links to the latest batch of interviews that I just placed on Youtube. The failed values that come up are quite varied, but those sighted most often are fear, hypocrisy, conservative familyvalues, division, rigidity, hyper individualism, self-delusion, etc. I also ask people to create a metaphor of what Conservative Values are like. These metaphors are often quite revealing.
In our Progressive Values Youtube group, we now have over 600 video clips of progressives talking about their own values and telling how they feel conservative values have failed.
Here's the list of newly added interviews related to the failure of conservative values. Most of these were done at Netroots Nation 2008.
Part 1: Progressives Blast Failed Conservative Values!
Failed Conservative Values: Markos Moulitsas - Self-Delusion
Failed Conservative Values Metaphor: Markos Moulitsas - Dodo Birds
Failed Conservative Values Metaphor: Thomas Tucker - Dodo Bird
Failed Conservatives Values: Johanna Olson - Rigidity
Failed Conservatives Values Metaphor: Johanna Olson - Tank v Seed
Failed Conservative Values: Katherine Forrest - Rigidity
Failed Conservative Values Metaphor: Katherine Forrest - Ridged Structure
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Lipsticked Hydra at the Failed Conservative 'Value Voters Summit 2008'
Linked to groups: East Bay for Democracy, Oakland DFA Meetup, Lake Park, San Francisco for Democracy, Alameda for Democracy, California for Democracy, Courage Campaign, Take Back Red California, Capitol Area Progressives (CAP) , What are Progressive Values? Study Group, DFA-Link Organizers, Walnut Creek DFA, Blog For America, Blogs United, DFA Film Club, DFA-Marin, DFA Night School, Silicon Valley DFA, brought to you by Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, Framing Committee, Florida DFA, NJ for Democracy, Democracy for Florida, Democracy for New York, Democracy for Texas, Democracy for NYC, PA for Democracy, Democracy for Washington, Sacramento For Democracy, Democracy for Illinois, Democracy for Maryland, Philly for Change, Democracy for Ohio (DFO), Democracy for America Miami-Dade (DFAM), Washington Fair Elections, Michigan Democracy for America, DFALA, DFA at Netroots Nation (formerly YearlyKos) July 17-20, blog for America Test and Poll Group
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This weekend conservatives are holding their annual Conservative Value Voters Summit 2008 in Washington DC. Last year I wrote an article about the Summit and called for counter rallies to challenge this conference as part of a progressive effort to Take Back the Values Debate. There didn't seem to be much interest or support of the idea among progressives. Progressives still miss the point by spending most of their energy attacking Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin, etc, instead of clearly connecting them to the underlying Failed Conservative Values of authoritarianism, fear, secrecy, deception, self-righteousness, hypocrisy, indifference, dogmatism, violence, etc. and offering the progressive alternative values.
While critiques of the leadership of the conservative movement is important, these leaders are merely the latest heads of the Conservative Hydra. If you cut off one head, two more will grow in it's place. To kill the Hydra, you need to stab it in the heart from which the blood of failed values flow. Yes, there needs to be a critique of failed conservative policies, leaders, institutions, principles, etc, but all of these flow from a corrupted spiritual values essence. A stab at each of these should be followed by a stab at the heart. All of these need to be tied back to the original toxics polluted spiritual spring from where they originate. The critiques need to be directed at the source with the goal of putting the beast out of it's misery. When the Hydra dies, then all the heads wither and fade on their own. It's a fools exercise to just attack the heads.
Conservative Hydra with Lipstick
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