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Primary Election Results: Success for DFMC A-List Candidates

Written by: Brian Kanowsky on May 8, 2008 10:06 PM EDT

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As you know, the results are in. DFMC's A-List Candidates performed very well, and our winners included:

Three members of the DFMC Executive Board won election as delegates to the state convention:

  • * David VanDeventer (Vice Chair)
  • * Eric Schmitz (Treasurer)
  • * Carole Scifres (Secretary)

In addition, several DFMC members were elected as delegates - too many to list here, in fact!

I'd also like to remind everyone that DFMC will support every Democrat on the ballot in the fall, regardless of previous endorsement. We'd like to add a hearty congratulations to Iris Kiesling, Amy Gerstman, Jerry Reed, and Cathy Smith.

I hope you'll also join me in thanking all of the Democratic candidates for making this a race to remember - one that was full of positive and progressive choices. Hopefully, all of these candidates will run again in the future, and continue to bring their spirit of dedication, hard work, and public service to all of the citizens of Monroe County.

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- Good going, DFMC!

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:13 AM EDT

It goes without saying that Howard is FIRST here.

But I'll say it anyway.

Howard is FIRST!

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By puddle on May 9, 2008 7:46 AM EDT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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- Hmm .. lost my toolbar when I went back

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:16 AM EDT

to post the link to this thread.

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- Aha .. the return of the toolbar ...

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:28 AM EDT

 

Yesterday marked the 60th anniversary of the founding of the State of Israel and, of course, many commentators made comments.

Here is one from Johann Hari of The Independent.  I am linking to this version from Common Dreams, rather than directly to The Independent, because I believe that many comments following Hari's show that more and more Americans are beginning to "get" this finely nuanced situation, in which balance is definitely needed.  I find this heartening, although the US has allowed things to detoriorate so much during *'s years in office that more than one miracle ... and a lot of determination ... are desperately needed.

Some, of course, clearly do not "get" it and likely never will.

For information about Hari ... who is singularly unafraid to take unpopular stands, but also to acknowledge when his stand has been wrong, here is a Wiki summary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Hari

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Published on Thursday, May 8, 2008 by The Independent/UK

The Loathsome Smearing of Israel’s Critics

by Johann Hari
In the US and Britain, there is a campaign to smear anybody who tries to describe the plight of the Palestinian people. It is an attempt to intimidate and silence — and to a large degree, it works. There is nobody these self-appointed spokesmen for Israel will not attack as anti-Jewish: liberal Jews, rabbis, even Holocaust survivors.
My own case isn’t especially important, but it illustrates how the wider process of intimidation works. I have worked undercover at both the Finsbury Park mosque and among neo-Nazi Holocaust deniers to expose the Jew-hatred there; when I went on the Islam Channel to challenge the anti-Semitism of Islamists, I received a rash of death threats calling me “a Jew-lover”, “a Zionist-homo pig” and more.
Ah, but wait. I have also reported from Gaza and the West Bank. Last week, I wrote an article that described how untreated sewage was being pumped from illegal Israeli settlements on to Palestinian land, contaminating their reservoirs. This isn’t controversial. It has been documented by Friends of the Earth, and I have seen it with my own eyes.

The response? There was little attempt to dispute the facts I offered. Instead, some of the most high profile “pro-Israel” writers and media monitoring groups — including Honest Reporting and Camera — said I an anti-Jewish bigot akin to Joseph Goebbels and Mahmoud Ahmadinejadh, while Melanie Phillips even linked the stabbing of two Jewish people in North London to articles like mine. Vast numbers of e-mails came flooding in calling for me to be sacked.

Any attempt to describe accurately the situation for Palestinians is met like this. If you recount the pumping of sewage onto Palestinian land, “Honest Reporting” claims you are reviving the anti-Semitic myth of Jews “poisoning the wells.” If you interview a woman whose baby died in 2002 because she was detained — in labour — by Israeli soldiers at a checkpoint within the West Bank, “Honest Reporting” will say you didn’t explain “the real cause”: the election of Hamas in, um, 2006. And on, and on.

The former editor of Israel’s leading newspaper, Ha’aretz, David Landau, calls the behaviour of these groups “nascent McCarthyism”. Those responsible hold extreme positions of their own that place them way to the right of most Israelis. Alan Dershowitz and Melanie Phillips are two of the most prominent figures sent in to attack anyone who disagrees with the Israeli right.

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- Sorry, "deteriorate"

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:30 AM EDT

I really do know better ... .

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- Jimmy Carter, also not one to sidestep a controversy ...

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:38 AM EDT

had this to say yesterday.

And most headlines and comments dealing with this today bear out the truth of Hari's comment above.

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Politics aside, a human rights crime is happening in Gaza

By Jimmy Carter

Thursday, May 08, 2008

The world is witnessing a terrible human rights crime in Gaza, where 1.5 million human beings are being imprisoned with almost no access to the outside world by sea, air, or land. An entire population is being brutally punished.

This gross mistreatment of the Palestinians in Gaza was escalated dramatically by Israel, with United States backing, after political candidates representing Hamas won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Authority Parliament in 2006. The election was unanimously judged to be honest and fair by all international observers, including a joint team I led from the Carter Center and the National Democratic Institute.

Israel and the US refused to accept the right of Palestinians to form a unity government with Hamas and Fatah and now, after internal strife, Hamas alone controls Gaza. Forty-one of the 43 victorious Hamas candidates who lived in the Occupied West Bank are now imprisoned by Israel, plus an additional 10 who assumed positions in the short-lived coalition Cabinet.

Regardless of one's choice in the partisan struggle between Fatah and Hamas within occupied Palestine, we must remember that economic sanctions and restrictions in delivering water, food, electricity, and fuel are causing extreme hardship among the innocent people in Gaza - about 1 million of whom are refugees.

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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=5&article_id=91778

 

 

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- This article was originally published in The Guardian (UK)

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:47 AM EDT
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- Sorry, meant to include the link in that last ...

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:47 AM EDT
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- Sorry to quibble

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 4:15 AM EDT
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- There, that got rid of format

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 4:23 AM EDT

Anyway, the use of the adjective "innocent" to describe victims of official abuse is really unfortunate because it implies that if they were guilty the abuse would be justified.  Keeping 1.5 million people concentrated within a small area  cannot be justified on any grounds.  Humans, being mobile creatures, have a natural right to move about the surface of the earth.  I make that distinction for the simple reason that I don't think that includes flying through the sky.  If states or other political subdivisions want to restrict who flies where, when and how, that's fine with me.

If the U.S. were prohibited from flying over Iraq, for example, that would solve a

lot of problems.

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- More, from the Independent, via Common Dreams

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:42 AM EDT

 

This time, it's Robert Fisk, an expert on ME matters, but with particular expertise on Lebanon.

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Published on Thursday, May 8, 2008 by The Independent/UK

Lebanon Descends Into Chaos as Rival Leaders Order General Strike

by Robert Fisk
Burning tyres on the airport road, flights suspended, demands from the Druze leader Walid Jumblatt that Hizbollah moves secret cameras from runway 1-7 and end the militia’s equally secret underground communications equipment. Across Corniche Mazraa, crowds of shrieking Sunni and Shia Muslims hurl abuse and stones at each other. A soldier comes up to my car at the crossroads. “Turn round,” he shouts. “They’re shooting.”

Lebanon seems to feed on crisis, need crisis, breathe crisis, like a wounded man needs blood. The man who should be the president is head of the army and the man who believes he leads the resistance — Sayed Hassan Nasrallah of the Hizbollah — accuses Mr Jumblatt of doing Israel’s work while Mr Jumblatt claims the head of Beirut airport security, Colonel Wafic Chucair, works for the Hizbollah and should be fired.

Yesterday, in case you hadn’t guessed, was a “general strike” by opponents of the Lebanese government with all the usual chaos. Mr Nasrallah is to hold a press conference today and then we’ll all find out if this latest crisis is the greatest crisis since the last great crisis. Yes, a good cup of cynicism is necessary to wash down the rhetoric and threats of the past few days. At its most serious is the incendiary language in which Lebanon’s politicians now address each other, the kind of menacing words that could easily touch an assassin’s heart.

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http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/08/8811/

 

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- Snippets of Juan Cole's ME tour d'horizon this am

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 3:51 AM EDT

 

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Tina Susman of the LAT has some fun with the Bush administration's fixation on Iran as a source of weapons and trouble in Iraq. She notes a major embarrassment last week when a cache of supposedly Iranian weapons seized in the Shiite holy city of Karbala turned out to be no such thing. The US military had just taken the word for it of local Karbala police. She says that this week when the Pentagon gave its overview of captured weapons, all of a sudden there was no mention of Iran at all.

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Saddam Hussein was the Iraqi leader who invented the technique of ethnically cleansing rebellious populations as a way of making his rule stick. He did it to the Marsh Arabs in the south and also to Kurds in the north. The US has already either conducted or allowed ethnic cleansing in Falluja and West Baghdad. It now seems set to empty out the east of the capital.

Apparently the fractious, RPG-wielding slum dwellers are getting in the way of the planned Green Zone golf course, so they have to be removed.

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McClatchy reports political violence for Thursday.

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http://www.juancole.com/2008/05/sadr-city-residents-warned-to-leave.html#comments

 

 

 

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- Ah, yes, the golf course.

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 4:39 AM EDT

Somebody somewhere commented that the Air Force prides itself at having golf courses on all its bases.  Perhaps the stress of sitting still in cockpits needs to be relieved.

In some stories I've read, it seems that Iraqis refer to Shia Iraqis as Iranians.  Sort of

like Catholics are referred to as Papists even though they don't live in papal lands.

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- Ron Paul deconstructed ...

By JudyforDean on May 9, 2008 4:02 AM EDT

 

For those who have liked at least some of what Ron Paul has had to say, rest assured that it is but words.

When it comes to adhering to the Republican line, Paul is right there.

Do not be mistaken about this ... here are some things that they have learned about him in MT, where he actually excited more than a few, however briefly when reality struck.

[The good thing is that Dennis Rehberg, once considered a sure thing, is considered to be more and more beatable.  I personally am crossing my fingers that Jim Hunt will win out in the Dem primary because he will definitely provide a much-needed Dem voice to the Congress, should he get the opportunity to run against Rehberg and win.]

This is my last for now.  Have good ones!

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You may remember that both Pete Talbot and I went to see Ron Paul when he made his appearance here in Missoula, and we both liked some of the things he was saying.

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It should definitely come as a surprise and a disappointment to Paul fans that his rhetoric appears to be just that: hot air.

Why, do you ask, am I saying this?

He endorsed Dennis Rehberg.

Can you think of a Republican who more embodies everything that Ron Paul was speaking out against in the UC Ballroom? Does Rehberg support the war, and has he supported it since its inception? Check. Did he gladly support the administration’s illegal “anti-terror” policies? Check. Is he one of the “spend-and-run” Republicans? Check.

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Really, what else can we possibly think of Ron Paul after this move, other than he really didn’t mean much of what he said here in Missoula? I mean, really? You support Dennis Rehberg?

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- good morning folks!

By Jo*in*Vermont on May 9, 2008 4:32 AM EDT

exciting times, these! my fourth grandchild is about to introduce his/herself to the world - I'm hoping it's today because then they would share a birthday with my son, their Daddy! I'm sticking close to home as it's going to be a home birth and I'll get the call once things really get moving - it's a 25 minute drive. the plan is to keep my 2 yr old granddaughter occupied while her folks are 'busy' coaxing her sibling to join the party!!

there are some wonderful posts about the hope that Obama inspires in people here - ditto for me. it was a long trek for me to become confident in him - I certainly want change, but it's easy to hesitate when that opportunity actually presents itself. can I trust this - is it really going to be different? even our best instincts can be second-guessed by our long-held habits of struggling against real change. it won't be easy and it will certainly be messy - this isn't some little thing that's being attempted here - there's a lot to do! but I feel that if we're ready to work, to do our part, to trust in ourselves and stay open to change - this can work.

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- McCain Pushed Land Swap That Benefits Backer

By Jo*in*Vermont on May 9, 2008 4:36 AM EDT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050803494.html?nav=rss_email/components

sorry - I haven't had a toolbar for a couple of days... ;)

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- Good morning, Jo

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 4:44 AM EDT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050803494.html?nav=rss_email/components

I'm thinking I should send a snap shot of the desk top and show HQ what two different

comment boxes together look like.  But this computer doesn't have that function and

the other one doesn't have the problem.  LOL

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By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 5:25 AM EDT

I think the tool bar is here if you are on one server and not if you are on the other and it is a random event to get one.

I have one now and was just going to say good morning before feeding group one instead of lurking through as I often do.

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By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 5:26 AM EDT

Judy

Iraq will resemble Lebanon on steroids for decades.

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- Montana will benefit if Clinton forces Obama to campaign there.

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 5:28 AM EDT
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- as Jackie Gleason used to say in the Honeymooners ...

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 5:28 AM EDT

..."and away we go !" --

-- Clinton only leads Obama by approx 6 superdelegates (endorsements since NC and IN voted on May 6):

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

2008 Democratic Convention Watch

Superdelegae Endorsement List

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Superdelegate Comparison

Candidate DCW ...
Clinton 268.5 ...
Obama 262 ...

Updated 5/9/2008

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5-7-08 - Added Rep. Heath Shuler (NC) for Clinton.
- Added DNC Jerry Meek (NC) and DNC Inola Henry (CA) for Obama
- Added add-on Dan Gelber (FL)# for Obama
- Switched DNC Jennifer McClellan (VA) from Clinton to Obama.

5-8-08 - Added Rep. Brad Miller (NC) for Obama
- Added Rep. Rick Larsen (WA) for Obama

5-9-08 - Switched Rep. Donald Payne (NJ) from Clinton to Obama
- Added Rep. Peter DeFazio (OR) for Obama

Stay tuned... we'll update this list as we find out more.

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- Kick in to the Obama campaign

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 5:37 AM EDT

We are close enough to having Howard's fifty state dream realized that there is no reason to stop at 48. Montana and South Dakota will both need a GOTV structure in place for the fall and now that is just months away.

Clinton staying in keeps the juices flowing, go with it.

Just takes a few more bucks.

my words above (Phil) post below

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You can help make sure Barack Obama is the nominee. Please make an additional donation of $100 now:

https://donate.barackobama.com/theresults

We want to be clear -- we believe that the winner of a majority of pledged delegates will be and should be the nominee of our party.

And we estimate that after the Oregon and Kentucky primaries on May 20th, we will have won a majority of the overall pledged delegates.

Evidently, the Clinton campaign agrees. According to a recent news report, by even their most optimistic estimates the Clinton Campaign expects to trail by more than 100 pledged delegates and will then ask the superdelegates to overturn the will of the voters.

But we have our own case to make: that millions of Americans volunteering their time and donating in small amounts have built a campaign that has won the most delegates, the most states, and the most votes.

And this campaign -- your campaign -- will be the one that wins the presidency in November and delivers a wave of support for Democrats at every level of office.

Please make an additional donation of $100 now to make it happen:

https://donate.barackobama.com/theresults

We'll be in touch as the situation evolves.

Thank you,

David

David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America

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By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 5:41 AM EDT

I've had a toolbar every post this morning, go figure.

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- I'm wondering how/if Hillary will manage

By Jo*in*Vermont on May 9, 2008 5:53 AM EDT

the potential onslaught of trash that may come from desperate folks watching their dreams of riches and influence die along with the Clinton campaign.  and here it comes folks - this is going to get ugly.  from Hill-schill Larry C Johnson this morning:

clip... I am a pessimist. Even though Hillary is the one who wins the big states that will count in the fall, the "supers" appear to be moving toward Obama. Even though Hillary has more popular votes and polls much better among the Reagan democrats, the supers appear to be moving toward Obama.

Hillary's only hope is that the super delegates will come to their senses and realize that Barack Obama's relationships with the corrupt Tony Rezko, the racist-wife stealing Jeremiah Wright, and the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers will provide the Republicans with ammunition they have never had at hand to use against the Democrats' candidate. This is particularly true of that flag stomper, Bill Ayers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-c-johnson/the-obama-democrats-ostri_b_100942.html

 

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- More rethug trash talk!

By Karen on May 9, 2008 7:03 AM EDT
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- "Even though Hillary has more popular votes"

By Karen on May 9, 2008 7:05 AM EDT

HUH!?!

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- No way to know

By puddle on May 9, 2008 7:51 AM EDT

Caucus states don't keep a vote toll -- just delegates. . . .

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- Larry Johnson

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 7:20 AM EDT

really ought to learn the difference between "guilt by association" and "associated by guilt."  McCain and Clinton are clearly equally guilty of having promoted an invasion that's killed and/or displaced over five million Iraqis and more are being displaced as we speak.

While you're thinking about that, ask yourself who benefits from the run-up in the price of oil?  Before you give a quick answer, consider that the only way nuclear energy can be even close to competitive with energy generated from burning oil, is if the oil is much more expensive.  I'm sure the energy monopolists were hoping that nuclear would get a better head-start towards resuming the building of plants during the Bush/Cheney tenure, but that was not to be, in part because the nuclear monster couldn't be located in either Iraq or Iran.  (Though they're still looking for him in the latter venue).  What's the connection between the nuclear monster and nuclear energy?  Well, the hope seems to be that in the popular imagination the nuclear monster can only be vanquished by our nuclear knight and to that end we have to produce more enriched uranium and plutonium waste.

Perhaps now that Domenici, the erstwhile champion of all things nuclear, is leaving the Washington scene, it's appropriate to recognize that McCain is slated to be our new nuclear knight.  Make a nice cartoon, don't you think?

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- morning all...

By linda b on May 9, 2008 7:00 AM EDT

I feel now with the almost nomination of obama, the hangers on are hanging on.

I guess if you saw the blog last nite I was pretty pissed.

I guess since I sent out my ad to the convention delegates the "chosen" thought that they would not be challenged. they set up a slate of the "elected" to get to Denver.

If they are on the ballot as the "uinity" slate, then I will challenge that cause they have to have appllied as such by the deadline. That was april 25.

so if they aren't on the ballot as such, they have to write it in.

I would not have known that but I did the caucus for our city and did the rules.

The ones on the slate are elected and ones that would not have otherwise got elected.

Wil let you know.

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- National Journal

By Monica Smith on May 9, 2008 7:06 AM EDT

If you'll remember, I got that expensive subscription to the National Journal because it has lots of inside Washington stuff. Unfortunately, I hardly have time to actually read what they send me every week. But, this morning I dipped into the May 3rd issue and found a little report about the nuclear energy industry/monopoly signing up former labor leaders as lobbyists to keep pushing for more subsidies out of Congress.

The allure of nuclear power for labor is the massive number of jobs--as many as 71,300 during peak construction--that the industry says would be needed to build the 31 reactors on the drawing board. But none of the plants has received the required approvals and financing yet, so the promise of such jobs is just that--a promise.

LiNk

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- mapping the SDs

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 7:18 AM EDT

http://meprandom.blogspot.com/2008/05/blog-post.html

Thursday, May 8, 2008

Candidate Superdelegate Support by State

 

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Blue = Obama, Red = Clinton

The darker the shade, the more wider the margin.

Green indicates a tie between committed supers.

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- get rid of supers...

By linda b on May 9, 2008 7:21 AM EDT

let them get in line like the rest of us.

they are coming out of the woodwork to get to denver. slime.

they get elected and well they want to be treated like royalty.

you think I am mad, well I am.

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- up on deck for today and tomorrow in OR

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 7:32 AM EDT

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/albanytownhall/

Town Hall Meeting with Barack Obama

Linn County Fair and Expo Center
Willamette Events Center
3700 Knox Butte Rd
Albany, OR

Friday, May 9th
Doors open: 1:45 p.m.
Program begins: 3:30 p.m.

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Rally with Barack Obama in Eugene

University of Oregon -- Memorial Quad
East 13th Avenue
Between University St. and Kincaid St.
Eugene, OR

Friday, May 9th, 2008
Doors open: 5:45 p.m.

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Town Hall Meeting with Barack Obama

Summit High School
2855 NW Clearwater Dr.
Bend, OR 97701

Saturday, May 10th
Doors open: 9:30 a.m.
Program begins: 11:30 a.m.

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- West Virginia

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 7:44 AM EDT

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/wvhome

Welcome to West Virginia for Obama

I

t's time to put an end to the say-anything-to-win politics of the past. Together we can face the challenges of the future with a new kind of politics and a new kind of leadership.

IMPORTANT: Independents can vote for Barack Obama on May 13. You simply need to request a Democratic ballot. Please call your local field office with questions.

Here's how you can take action right now:

Find your early vote location Join your Township Team Make Calls Now

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By puddle on May 9, 2008 7:46 AM EDT

&hearts

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By puddle on May 9, 2008 7:52 AM EDT

Couldn't get on again last night: pages just refused to ever load.  After rebooting four times, I quit.  Not worth the grief. . . .

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- challange

By linda b on May 9, 2008 8:05 AM EDT

already getting ready for a challenge.
all slates were to be submitted by the deadline.
if not then they are just filled in at the bottom of the ballot.
if they are on the ballot as the "unity" ballot then they are illegal.

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- This is the kind of stuff

By rich^kolker on May 9, 2008 8:18 AM EDT

...that so frustrates me about the Virginia party.  Some people think it's a private club.  It's all about their group maintaining power.  Most of those people think we have to nominate Rockefeller Republicans to win an election.  I have not been impressed by a lot Mark Warner said in his kickoff tour.

 

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- Mark Warner

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 8:35 AM EDT

needs the Rockefeller Democrats as well as the Obama surge to win, I suspect rich.

Re-making a party takes time.

Those people kept the legal structure in place and a Party in existence through some dark times and probably paid some dues back in the past.

That is why super delegates were created to give the Party structure its due.

They just need to be ousted the old fashioned way by getting more people to the organizational meetings.

Linda, get a friend to challenge the Rules violation and don't make it personal if you want to get elected, since Obama is running as a unifier, his delegates need to show that side.

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- But

By rich^kolker on May 9, 2008 8:41 AM EDT

Their attitude is that they don't need the progressive wing of the party.  Or at least that we should never get to nominate a progressive candidate or push progressive issues.

If we feel like contributing or doing field work for their candidates, they'll tolerate us.

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By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 8:52 AM EDT

Will you "tolerate" them after ousting them by out organizing and outvoting them? You have to win the primary fights to find out.

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- Excellent statement by Howard

By Huron John on May 9, 2008 8:47 AM EDT

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/08/cindy-mccain-i-will-never_n_100769.html

UPDATE: Howard Dean has released the following statement:

"What is John McCain trying to hide? Throughout this campaign, he has acted like his own calls for openness and accountability apply to everyone but himself. Now he thinks he can bring that same double standard to the White House. Whether he is skirting the FEC, withholding his tax returns, or stocking his campaign with the same Washington lobbyists he attacks on the campaign trail, John McCain is showing that he doesn't respect the voters enough to be honest with them. John McCain may not like it, but the American people have a right to know about the well documented links between his political career and the McCains' business ventures. John McCain's refusal to meet the standard of every other candidate seeking the office is one more reason he's the wrong choice for America's future."

Obama needs to pile it on too--especially now
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- Good Morning All !

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 8:47 AM EDT

A quick morning Howard is First, McCain is Frist ( his dyslexic version of First ), Clinton has declared herself to be the "whites first" candidate, and . . . . . .

GO-BAMA !!!

And, as always, it is so very good to be here among friends.

 

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- linda b

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 8:48 AM EDT

Officers for Garden Club or Lions Club get elected as slates too. It is how networking plays out in "clubs".

The Democratic Party sometimes functions as a "Club", the Republican Party always does. It is human nature, not something to take personally.

The Obama delegation to Denver will be much more representative of the base of the Party and the Clinton delegates the "club", and the slate would be the ones trying to get to Denver as Clinton supporters had she been the presumptive nominee at this point. 

yes they feel "entitled" and no they are not, so you could tactfully point out that this was Clinton's position all along and maybe they are running on the "wrong" slate

Your short speech must be directly to the people who are voting, reminding them that this is about making sure that Delegates to Denver will be the ones that come back inspired to deliver the State for Obama and your past actions show that you are the person that will do just that.

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By linda b on May 9, 2008 10:48 AM EDT

I am going to read up on the rules today. I think you have to break up by gender and if they don't, is a violation. that's why they made up a slate with all genders on it.

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- David

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 8:49 AM EDT

I promised Mike I would buy you both a drink at Deanfest if he went out and voted so I'll see you there.

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- Obstacles to helping HRC pay off her debts

By Huron John on May 9, 2008 8:53 AM EDT

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/08/obama-camp-faces-major-ob_n_100928.html

Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are running into two major stumbling blocks.

The first is obvious: the deep and growing animosity of Obama supporters towards Clinton, whom they see as raising issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

The second is less obvious: Mark Penn.

 

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued
the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not
privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a
big chunk of those debts -- an estimated $10 million or more -- is owed to
Penn.

So grassroots, mom-and-pop contributions go to making Penn's bank account even fatter

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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- another SD (John Gage) for Obama

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 8:57 AM EDT

another SD (John Gage of MD) for Obama:

http://www.centredaily.com/news/politics/story/582606.html

Friday, May. 09, 2008

Obama wins endorsement of government employees union

By JESSE J. HOLLAND

- AP Labor Writer

 

ASHINGTON — The American Federation of Government Employees endorsed Barack Obama Friday, giving the Illinois senator fresh momentum toward capturing the Democratic nomination for president.

"Our people, I think, recognize the enthusiasm and vitality behind Senator Obama's campaign," AFGE President John Gage said.

Gage, a previously uncommitted superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, said he is also personally endorsing Obama.

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- General Happypants

By Huron John on May 9, 2008 9:02 AM EDT

 

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- What if they gave a recession and nobody came?

By Fox Mulder on May 9, 2008 9:04 AM EDT

"That's the question that government, private economists and all of us at home are going to have to mull this summer, as an unprecedented flood of monetary and fiscal stimuli, and renewed global demand for our agricultural and industrial exports, appear to have yanked the U.S. economy out of a nose dive and landed it for a slow roll on the tarmac with just a few bumps and bruises.

This might not be everyone's idea of a perfect soft landing for an economy that was screaming along at 5% annual growth during the days of easy credit three years ago, but it's also not the crash that bears have been fearing.

One of the nation's top independent economists reported this week that his data show the United States is now on track for at least 1% annualized economic growth through the first half of 2009, with no three-month spans forecast in the red.

That economist, Ed Hyman, one of the few number crunchers to whom portfolio managers actually pay attention, acknowledges that his finding is surprising, considering he alerted clients at the start of the year to go on "high alert" for recession.

Yet the founder and leader of ISI Group in New York called off his alert Wednesday because he believes that improving credit markets, powerful federal policy action and a massive wave of investments from the global glut of commodity money will bolster U.S. corporate and consumer balance sheets enough to allow industry to muddle through at least the next 18 months without serious disruption." MSN Money

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- Now replace the words in the story

By Fox Mulder on May 9, 2008 9:06 AM EDT

Bears=Democrats

Fearing=hoping for.

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By puddle on May 9, 2008 10:44 AM EDT

Wonder why the WSJ is advising people to stockpile food.  Considering who reads the Journal. . . .

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By Huron John on May 9, 2008 9:07 AM EDT

Denial is not a River in Egypt

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- The Biofuels Dilema

By Huron John on May 9, 2008 9:06 AM EDT
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- http://www.kbs.msu.edu/faculty/robertson/

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 9:06 AM EDT
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By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 9:08 AM EDT

http://www.kbs.msu.edu/faculty/robertson/

Get the facts straight about bio fuels carbon footprint.

My farming operation has a net sequestration of carbon. Does your activity?

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By Huron John on May 9, 2008 9:21 AM EDT

Phil, the Cox article deals quite effectively with the propaganda being put out by the National Fuels Alliance:

 

Bottom line:

Perhaps the starkest measure of the car culture's energy appetite is the fact that the state of Iowa, the nation's leading corn producer, will soon be importing corn. If a meteorite were to land randomly in Iowa, there's a 35 percent chance it would land in a cornfield; Iowa's corn harvest last year contained more calories than the state's human population would consume in 85 years of eating; yet Iowa will be hauling corn in from other states. The grain will be fed to a multitude of new fuel-ethanol factories, along with the state's existing corn syrup and livestock industries.

The world is learning fast that when fuel demand competes with food needs for the sun's energy, it's not a fair fight. The energy contained in the gasoline that fills a typical SUV's tank contains approximately the same number of calories as are required in the annual diet of one adult. Or, rather than picking on SUVs, consider the energy burned by a Prius hybrid on a trip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and back. That would also feed a person for a year.

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- Stagflation is even worse than a recession.

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 9:10 AM EDT
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- Hello Phil

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 9:10 AM EDT

I still have the jigger that Mike gave me at the march at the Rethug Convention in NYC in '04 - so I'll bring that long to mix with my cranberry juice ( with a twist of lime ).

 

It's been a long time since DeanFest '04, hasn't it ?

 

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- A Cheery Poem

By Huron John on May 9, 2008 9:13 AM EDT

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=7314

The four horsemen of the apocalypse: famine, pestilence, disease and death--

High food prices bring starvation-- disease follows starvation.

Pestilence follows disease.

In war and famine, the rats grow fat and the men grow thin.

Death soon follows,

but

on the endless plain, the bison watch the barbed wire turn to dust.

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- One more thing, Phil

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 9:14 AM EDT

My friend ( associate also ) Sharon - whose parents have a farm in your corner of Iowa - corrected my "oil company propaganda - as she put it" about ethanol being totally cost-inefficient.

 

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By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 9:19 AM EDT

What about switch grass ? 

Surely having all our eggs (ie. ethanol production) in one basket (ie. corn) is not wise, right ?

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- Hello Huron J.

By David A. Stevenson on May 9, 2008 9:19 AM EDT

I think it's safe to say two things about the "corn dilemma" :

1. More corn is wasted on juicing up almost everything we consume ( not me, I read the packages and avoid it ) - high fructose corn syrup is the enemy, not ethanol.

 

2. There are always huge surplusses of corn in America's silos - the problem with feeding the world's poor is in the distribution or food, not the availability.

 

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- Urban sprawl and the hungry.

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 9:21 AM EDT

More land has been paved over and built on than has been used for bioi-fuels and which is it General Happypants in the mid-east or domestic supplies of renewable sources that have no permanent effect if reversed as compared to a country littered with spent uranium munitions?

driving to work from a home built in a sub-division that used to be a farm and b!tching about bio-fuels is a bit hypocritical

talk to me again after you took mass transit to work from a green high density urban space

the current rise in food prices is closely tied to the collapse in the dollar which is tied to the deficit which came about because of the Bush tax cuts

more bushels of corn were exported last year so I have no clue as to how world hunger can be tied to that, but the cost of food is directly tied to the value of the dollar

 

talk to Fox about that

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By Huron John on May 9, 2008 9:26 AM EDT

The link I provided for the Cox article on biofuels doesn't work. Try:

http://www.alternet.org/water/84628/

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- almost there

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 9:25 AM EDT

Edwards' is almost there:

http://www.katc.com/global/story.asp?s=8299474

 

Edwards says Obama has better chance of beating McCain

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NEW YORK (AP) - He's still not making a Democratic presidential endorsement. But former candidate John Edwards seemed to stop just short of it this morning.

The superdelegate tells NBC's "Today" show that Obama can unite the Democratic party, bring in new voters and get people excited about change.

...

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- World hunger

By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 9:29 AM EDT

Is directly related to American corn exports but in the opposite way than portrayed. Our surplus has been dumped on world markets driving small farmers off the land the world over, hundreds of millions who are now the labor supply for a new middle class of labor making cheap consumer goods for the American market, but also consumers of food rather than producers, and no economic model can show a commercial farm in Africa staying in business against dumped grain. so acres there are under-utilized, agricultural human infrastructure has been lost, the equation leaves small scale capital unavailable on the land as well.

If biofuels does indeed cut into the American surplus it will be the best thing that ever happened for world food production as nations go back to producing local food.

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By Phil Specht on May 9, 2008 9:35 AM EDT

sugar in pop takes more corn than ethanol and has negative health consequences

but it doesn't nip at big oil's monopoly

dairy cows produce milk on distillers grains

bio-fuels are sustainable

petroleum from fossil fuels to transport pop drinking diabetic kids to a school built with big parking lots and no side-walks is not

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- Panicum virgatum (Heavy Metal)

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 9:47 AM EDT

switch to switch grass ?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_grass

 

Panicum virgatum 'Heavy Metal' switchgrass in early summer

Panicum virgatum 'Heavy Metal' switchgrass in early summer

 

Panicum virgatum, commonly known as switchgrass, is a warm season grass and is one of the dominant species of the central North American tallgrass prairie. It can be found in remnant prairies, along roadsides, pastures and as an ornamental plant in gardens.

...

Switchgrass is a self-seeding crop, which means farmers do not have to plant and re-seed after harvesting.[1] Also, unlike corn, switchgrass can grow on marginal lands and requires little or no fertilizer to thrive.

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Much of North America, especially the prairies of the Midwest, was once home to vast swaths of native grasses including Switchgrass (Panicum virgatum), Indiangrass (Sorghastrum nutans), Eastern Gamagrass (Tripsacum dactyloides), Big Bluestem (Andropogon gerardii), Little Bluestem (Schizachyrium scoparium) and others. As settlers began spreading out across the continent, the native grasses were replaced by crops such as corn and wheat.

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One of the benefits of switchgrass is through soil amendment and conservation. Switchgrass has a deep fibrous root system – nearly as deep as the plant is tall. Since it, along with other native grasses and forbs, once covered the plains of the United States that are now the Corn Belt, one could say that they still help feed the world today. Their deep fibrous roots left a very deep rich layer of organic matter in the soils; making those mollisol soils some of the most productive in the world. By returning switchgrass and other perennial prairie grasses to the agricultural scene, many marginal soils will benefit from their deep root systems through increased organic matter levels, permeability, and fertility.

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Switchgrass is also perennial, unlike corn, and has a huge biomass output, the raw plant material used to make biofuel, of 6-10 tons per acre.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-4">[</sup>

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Switchgrass has the potential to produce the biomass required for production of up to 100 gallons (380 liters) of ethanol per metric ton.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-10">[11]</sup> This gives switchgrass the potential to produce 1000 gallons of ethanol per acre, compared to 665 gallons for sugarcane and 400 gallons for corn.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-11">[12]</sup>

<sup>...</sup>

 

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- switch (new thread)

By * rdorgan on May 9, 2008 9:54 AM EDT

Speaking of switch grass, maybe it's time for another switch ? (to a new thread)

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By Denise in San Mateo County on May 9, 2008 10:03 AM EDT

Sorry no linkie but there is a new thread

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- Driving by to say...

By Annilow on May 9, 2008 10:16 AM EDT

...I'll bet this study was financed by the liquor industry or something -- I don't imbibe any more but I find this study totally unbelievable...color me a hemp fan- make hemp paper and save trees.

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Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness

By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer Fri May 9, 7:00 AM ET

link to article

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- Wow, nice job DFAMC

By Patrick Briggs on May 9, 2008 10:45 AM EDT

Hi Brian,

I'm trying to read Blog for America more so that our group can stay abreast of what other DFA chapters are doing. You guys seem like you are very active in electoral politics! Our chapter has had its more active times in that regard.

We are working right now on the Russ Warner campaign to unseat 28 year incumbent, David Dreier.

http://www.warnerforcongress.com/

We just held our chapter meeting last night and had two speakers talk on the impending big cuts to education in the state of California. We'll be tabling on that issue at farmers markets in the weeks ahead.

I'd like to find out more about your chapter and see what's working for you and what hasn't. We are trying to grow our group and make it more effective. We want to draw on more of our membership and do actions that get more attention from the community.

If you have a moment, can you email me at pbriggs@greeneggsandham.org - or call at 626-296-1607? I'm pushing our steering committee members to use this Blog for America to network with other groups and learn from other chapters.

Thanks for doing what you guys do!

Regards,

Patrick Briggs
Pasadena DFA Chapter Leader

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- For anyone stranded here: new thread hot link, lol!

By puddle on May 9, 2008 10:53 AM EDT

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