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Spring GenerationDFA Highlights

Written by: DFA Intern on May 3, 2006 10:33 AM EDT

This semester has brought many victories for GenerationDFA groups across the country. As students prepare for finals, I have taken a moment to reflect on the work our groups have done this semester. Although there is much more, I've written out the highlights.

Franco Caliz-Aguilar, leader of the Coral Park Young Democrats in Miami, our strongest high-school group, single-handedly organized a walk-out among four different high-schools in support of immigrants' rights. The event was covered by the Miami-Herald. They are currently working to defeat a local commissioner's plans to close a mobile home park where several of their members reside.

Brandeis DFA, led by Aaron Voldman, brought DFA-List candidate for Massachusetts governor Duval Patrick to their campus. Over 160 students came to hear him speak. John Bonifaz, candidate for secretary of state in Massachusetts, also came to Brandeis. 75 people came to hear him speak, and Brandeis DFA gathered 400 of the necessary 10,000 nomination signatures Bonifaz needed.

GenDFA UIUC launched a monthly newsletter this semester called The Liberal Media, which has been featured on Blog for America. They have also been working on David Gill's congressional campaign each week, and will continue doing so into the summer.

—Meredith Adams

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By ElaineinRoanokeVA on May 3, 2006 10:36 AM EDT

First are Howard Dean and Generation DFA...

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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 10:43 AM EDT
Oh, I do like these reports from the grassroots.

Nice going GenDFA.
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By ElaineinRoanokeVA on May 3, 2006 10:44 AM EDT

Also first - and a Howardly - to Charlie Grapski for speaking truth to power and for being unafraid to stand up and be counted.

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By former on May 3, 2006 11:03 AM EDT
Mike*in*Raleigh*NC wrote on May 3, 2006 09:05 AM:


Why we should cut and run from iraq.....written by a general............heers an excerpt......
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I don't think this time around, "cheap tricks" like one in Richard Nixon’s Watergate resignation case will work and/or fool anyone..AGAIN...

NO MORE "IMAGES" CHANGES...!
Another, "good guy" won't save "U.S. credibility in the world."...!
Too little and too late...!

Changes in ESSENCE required...!
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 11:04 AM EDT
I'm going to put Charlie's explanation on the Hannah blog as well.
Nice to have it all in one place.

If you come back, Charlie. Just Relax. You can ask Joe Little all about Julian Smith. He was so famous on the UF campus that Bob Hope included him in one of his GROWL monologues.
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 11:14 AM EDT
BTW, Ed Jennings ought to be ashamed of himself.

Being the Chief of Police in Alachua, Florida is actually a come-down for him. He used to be a person of importance in Gainesville.

Wonder if Lewis Irby is related to Buddy Irby who used to be the supervisor of elections in Alachua County. Buddy Irby was always a stand-up guy.
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 11:22 AM EDT
While I was walking the dog this morning, I thought some more about "association by guilt." Shared guilt seems to create a particularly strong bond. Perhaps because the natural reaction to the sensation of guilt about having done something wrong is to either hide it (cover it up) or deny the error by doing it over and over again.
"Two wrongs don't make a right" but that doesn't keep people from trying.

I've long thought that one of the most salutary aspects of catholicism was the confession which effectively removes guilt--a very negative emotion because it inhibits the individual from changing his/her behavior.
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By Marcia - on May 3, 2006 11:27 AM EDT

Since Jessica put out such a great message the other day about Day 1 at Demfest, I thought that I would let the bloggers know that I still have one place left in a double room at the on-campus housing. Please let me know if anyone is interested. It is one of the rooms in a suite. The suite has a common living room, common kitchen and two bathrooms. The price is right, only $198 for the 4 nights. Contact me by e-mail if you are interested. marciagm@surfglobal.net

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By former on May 3, 2006 11:31 AM EDT
MonicaSmith wrote on May 3, 2006 11:22 AM:

...the confession which effectively removes guilt...
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Not bad idea for this Country and for this Nation...to start with...

Even though,...LEADER(S) REQUIRED...!
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By cChalfonte on May 3, 2006 11:37 AM EDT
I would suggest that the troll provide 100% proof that a guest worker plan is an imminent threat to the workers of United (note he switched from Delta).

The potential scenario he describes is what is occurring now with the use of illegals.

The troll presents a hypothetical as fact.

The troll needs to present more data supporting his own hypothesis before demanding that others refute it, lol!!
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By seadog on May 3, 2006 11:42 AM EDT

2406

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By ...kimmy on May 3, 2006 11:52 AM EDT
repost (as usual i'm on an old thread! thank you for lettin' me know, peewee!!)


HAPPY BDAY MISS LINDAB!


Decided on Pink did ya?! See? And you thought green was an interesting dye choice! LINDA'S gettin' buckwild !!

;)
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 11:53 AM EDT
The O C wrote on May 3, 2006 11:41 AM

Actually, what the Administration stays focused on is nuclear power (military and civilian). The release of this study is intended to promote an argument indirectly. I can just hear it: "gee, what do you know about that? The eco-freaks were right. Good golly we're going to have to do something drastic. Guess we're gonna have to go nuclear-- the only clean energy."

Given the American public's attitude toward nuclear anything, there's going to have to be a disaster on the horizon to push them in the right direction. Besides, that will kill two birds with one stone--give us all the power we want.
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By ...kimmy on May 3, 2006 11:53 AM EDT
KICK ASS JOB INDY!!!!!!!

WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By ...kimmy on May 3, 2006 11:54 AM EDT
Lenny at 11:46 (just in case you dont go back there!)

AHHHHH I see! Thank you Peewee!! ?SOOOOOOO INTERESTING this deal with good ol' Charlie! Isn't it?!

P.S. Charlie..cant sign or view the guestbook on your personal site btw, just a lil fyi


And PHIL, I LOVE YOU! Take that!
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 11:57 AM EDT
IndySteve wrote on May 3, 2006 11:49 AM:

Excellent. That's the spirit we want to see. I am a firm believer that it takes enthusiasm in the primary to secure victory in November. Here in NH we have four Dems firing up the citizens, getting them ready to send another do-nothing Republican to tend his Swiss bank accounts.
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By The O C on May 3, 2006 12:02 PM EDT
MonicaSmith wrote on May 3, 2006 11:53 AM:

You probably are right Monica, but I hope not.

The Bush administration has the same problem all over the map. They have acted on so many lies that to take action based on fact (or"truth") calls into question the lies and their source.
Someone said 'Bush can't fire Rumsfeld, that'd be like firing himself' and in essence that's true.
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By *Hypatia* on May 3, 2006 12:06 PM EDT
...quickest of drive-bys to say CONGRATS to IndySteve, a patriot to be proud of! And hello to Kimmy and happy birthday to lindab and to Charlie Grapski all I can do is reflect on the continued courage he exhibits...

Keeping up with my blog reading, posting not so much. But still here with all of you!
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By ...kimmy on May 3, 2006 12:09 PM EDT
:"...And we went from no recognition to 1 in 6 voters supporting a progressive agenda...":

Seriously good stuff and NICE positive/hopeful attitude, Sir!!!

THAT is inspiring!
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By Andrea*in*upstate*NY on May 3, 2006 12:11 PM EDT
Just popping in to say congrats to Indy Steve on running a good campaign (and thanks for running).

I wish we had springtime primaries here in NYS like so many of you do. Ours aren't until Sept. and it hurts us I think in the long run.
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 12:13 PM EDT
The O C wrote on May 3, 2006 12:02 PM

These patterns of behavior have been established for a long time. What's different now is that people are paying attention. Having historical data available on the home computer has made a difference, even if they keep trying to reduce how much is available.
The thing about information and the human brain is that you don't have to have everything. The brain is able to detect patterns and reach conclusions on relatively small samples. The audit function developed by accountants is just a formalization of what the brain does anyway.
The other thing about the human brain is that once it latches on to information, no amount of distraction will work. Distraction only works when people aren't paying attention.
We had a couple or three decades while people were lulled by the entertainment industry. No longer. The notion that people are sitting in front of their TVs all the time is now just wishful thinking. The people who turned out for the peace marches, and the immigration marches, and who attend live musical performances (more than sporting events) are not sitting in front of their TVs.
Lots of reasons to be cheerful. Just ask yourself, would it be possible now for people to be killed in Nicaragua without anybody paying attention at the time?
Bad things still happen, but we have to believe that witnessing makes a difference.
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By battlebob1 on May 3, 2006 12:24 PM EDT

Illegal immigrats are taking more then just jobs no one else wants. In Arizona, try finding a roofer, or auto-body repairman, or carpenter who is not illegal. These used to be decent middle-class jobs (before battlebob, I used to be bondobob). Not anymore. Of course, the quality of the work has gone down the tubes.

Let’s suppose you are an unemployed US white mail citizen and will take any job possible. If you apply to most restaurants, you won’t be hired because of discrimination for Latinos.

However, those that say just ship them back are clueless. Many illegal families have children here – who are legal US citizens. So what is the plan…ship back families that include legal US citizens? Break the families up? Besides, to ship all the illegal folks and their legal kids from Phoenix to the border would create a line of busses from Phoenix to the Canadian border.

So I think there are four issues:

1 – Choke off the supply by installing fences at turnstiles. The current border security efforts are forcing illegals into the harshest part of the desert. Roughly 500 folks die each year in the desert. So install the fence with lots of entry points so the folks can be processed and issued IDs; and not forced to die by dehydration.

2 – Choke off the demand by coming down hard on those that hire illegal workers. This means services, houses and repair prices may go up.

3 – Entice those that are here illegally by making language and citizen training easier to come by. My wife and I both taught ESD courses funded by the state. The operation was shut down as a budget savings and a path to citizenship removed. If we really want these folks to be productive citizens and really believe the benefits outweigh the costs, then we must be willing to supply seed money to get the effort going.

4 – What to do about Mexico; the land of the corrupt? Vicente Fox was elected as a social reformer. Last year, he said immigration is a US problem. Because Mexican wages are so low, everyone is on the take; from the border guard and city policeman to maybe Fox himself. If I want to start a business; why should I risk being shut down because the wrong folks were bribed; or not bribed? Entrepreneurs are risk-takers anyway and may see the risks of getting here far outweighed by rewards of doing business here; even if it is illegally.



I know people whose parents are here illegally but grew up here; were educated here; but can’t get jobs that require a background check (teaching, for instance) because they would have to turn their parents in to the INS folks.

A friend of ours was a gifted high-school student who went to Canada on a school trip with other students. He and five other students were denied entry back into the US because their parents were illegals. After much banging on our Representatives, they were admitted back into the country. These are the kids we want to see succeed; and be role models for other kids.

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By battlebob1 on May 3, 2006 12:25 PM EDT
grrr.
was: US white mail citizen
s/b US white male citizen
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By ...kimmy on May 3, 2006 12:27 PM EDT
Hypatia! I'm attempting to plug back into this blog (and others) but am so friggin busy lately, its a chore for sure!! A nightly browse through keeps me stoked (always checking Judys link and Miss Monicas thoughts!)

Hugs to you mamasita and the mini-Hypatia too!
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By ...kimmy on May 3, 2006 12:32 PM EDT
Anyone here attend any May 1 rallies? Woooooo it was EXCITING here in SoCal!!! More on diy about all that later for sure.

Phil, Listener ♥

Ok back to work for me!


Charlie.. just.. !!! WOOOOOO!
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 12:42 PM EDT
The fellow who arrested Charlie is the father of this fellow---a good example of a special interest legislator. And he's proud of it.

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Edward L. Jennings Jr.
State Representative, D-Gainesville

Edward Jennings Jr. remembers meeting Rosalynn Carter back in 1975, when he was just seven years old. Then?presidential candidate Jimmy Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, were looking for support for their campaign, and Edward L. Jennings Sr. was politically active in Gainesville circles. ?That was my first political memory,? says the junior Jennings, ?but it sure wasn?t the last.?


Jennings served on the Gainesville City Commission from 1993 to 2000, when he was elected to the state House of Representatives. He serves on the appropriations and housing committees, and is first vice chair of the Florida Caucus of Black State Legislators.


In the Legislature, Jennings is committed to affordable housing. ?Florida leads the nation in opportunities for investment in affordable housing, thanks to the Sadowski Trust,? says Edward L. Jennings Jr. ?The Florida Association of Realtors was instrumental in the creation of that fund, recognizing that our communities need workforce housing in order to survive.?


In the business world, Jennings has been active in real estate for the past 11 years. As president and CEO of Jennings Development Group Inc., he has developed projects that include a Gainesville shopping center and two affordable-housing developments totaling 206 units, with another 96-unit project on the way.


Jennings urges real estate professionals to serve on city commissions, school boards and other municipal bodies. ?The actions of government affect what we do every day,? he says. ?We have a responsibility to be involved in those decisions.?
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By rdavis on May 3, 2006 12:46 PM EDT
battlebob1 wrote on May 3, 2006 12:24 PM

Good ideas. We need more pragmatism, and less ideology, in this debate.
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By ceci on May 3, 2006 12:47 PM EDT
Top Dem attacks Colbert
By Evan Derkacz
Posted on May 3, 2006, Printed on May 3, 2006
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/35781/

This is just heartbreakingly stupid suck-up-ness on the part of Maryland's Steny Hoyer. John Aravosis writes: "Sure, George Bush is plumetting in the polls. So what does Steny Hoyer do? The Hill newspaper reports that he takes a cheap shot at someone who's out there defending the party and taking the president on."

"I thought some of it was funny, but I think it got a little rough," Hoyer said. "He is the president of the United States, and he deserves some respect."
"I’m certainly not a defender of the administration," Hoyer reassured stunned observers, but Colbert “crossed the line” with many jokes that were "in bad taste." [VIDEO.]
Bad taste?! Bad taste?! Are you f-ing kidding me? If anyone came to me, as a nationally recognized figure, and asked with the camera and lights on whether I thought Stephen Colbert's speech was in "bad taste" I would try to avoid the drool accumulating in the corners of my mouth and say:

You know what's in bad taste? Trampling on the Constitution, sending people to other countries to be tortured, starting a war on false pretenses that has taken the lives of over 2000 soldiers and untold Iraqis, many of whom were women and children, sending people, without trial, in the most un-American fashion to a black hole off the coast where they sit and rot without hope of release, tortured because the president has played with the law to make it difficult to prosecute, spying on Americans illegally and claiming he can do it like some kind of a monarch.
And you wanna talk about a comedian's jokes being in bad taste? Shame on you.
So I paraphrase Heathers the next time someone asks why the Dems don't win elections: Because you're an idiot, Dad.
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By ceci on May 3, 2006 12:50 PM EDT
Give the Democratic Whip, Rep. Hoyer an earful!

Washington Office
1705 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone - (202) 225-4131
Fax - (202) 225-4300
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By Mike*in*Raleigh*NC on May 3, 2006 1:03 PM EDT
ceci wrote on May 3, 2006 12:47 PM:
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Where we went wrong was putting the office of president as some diety like father figure, a King, a messiah to worship..............

Also, nonsensical preoccupation of time and laws with things like flag burning ahead of nuclear disarmament,universal health care, dependancy on foreig oil, etc............our priorities are upside down, witness the result today.........

Too many looked upon Bush as that kind of figure after 911.........many of us knew better.......
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By cChalfonte on May 3, 2006 1:03 PM EDT

the last couple of decades have seen widespread wage deterioration among the working class.



The manufacturing sector has been in steady decline, and union power has been ripped apart.



The minimum wage hasn’t seen an increase since 1997, and now stands at a 54-year low against the average wage.



Inequality has shot up, and social mobility has markedly decreased.



As Georgetown economist Harry Holzer put it,



“An extra million immigrants a year cannot possibly explain why the vast majority of workers

in a labor market of 150 million workers have had stagnant wage growth.”



So, immigrants become the convenient scapegoat for a much larger economic problem.



--Ezra Klein

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By Connie in Alachua on May 3, 2006 1:17 PM EDT

Gainesville Sun Editorial May 3,2006

‘Alachua Gotcha’



Clovis Watson: Are you record¬ing this conversation?

Charlie Grapski: Yes I am.

Watson: Well please turn it off, I do not wish to be taped. One might imagine the above

conversation taking place after Alachua City Manager Clovis Wat¬son became aware that citizen activist Grapski was using a digital recorder during their meeting on Friday to discuss release of public records relating to the recent city election.

But instead of insisting that the conversation be erased and the recorder turned off, Watson waited for Grapski to return to city hall the following Monday to inspect the requested records. And then he had Grapski arrested, handcuffed and carted off to jail.

“Here in the city of Alachua, we refuse to be intimidated and bul¬lied, especially when the individ¬ual doing that is breaking the law,” Watson later said.

Frankly, Watson looks more like the bully in this game of “Alachua Gotcha.”

Even granting that ignorance of the law regarding taping inter¬views without the subject’s con¬sent is no excuse, Grapski’s arrest seems like a gross overreaction.

And it inevitably invites specula¬tion as to motive.

Was Watson angry because Grapski had filed suit against the city regarding alleged misconduct in last month’s election? Is it just a coincidence that Grapski is run¬ning for the same legislative seat as Alachua Commissioner Bonnie Burgess, one of Watson’s employ¬ers?

Why turn a citizen’s quest for public information into a criminal case? Certainly, there’s nothing tactful about Grapski’s methods. He is a relentless, even abrasive, self-appointed watchdog who will file litigation or an ethics com¬plaint at the drop of a hat. But at heart, Grapski stands for the same thing we do, and the same thing that all taxpayers should stand for:

Transparency in government and the right of the voters and taxpay¬ers to know what’s being done in their names and with their money.

City managers are generally a tactful, diplomatic lot who try to bend over backwards to accom¬modate citizens, even rude or abu¬sive citizens who presume to “fight city hail.” Locking up Grapski for unauthorized use of a digital recorder is like swatting a buzzing gadfly with a sledgehammer.

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By *lindab on May 3, 2006 1:19 PM EDT
HAPPY BDAY MISS LINDAB!


Decided on Pink did ya?! See? And you thought green was an interesting dye choice! LINDA'S gettin' buckwild !!

;)

you were my inspiration. either that or feria!!
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By puddle*in*NYC on May 3, 2006 1:22 PM EDT
cChalfonte wrote on May 3, 2006 11:37 AM
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Funny, you know I would have thought he'd *love* the guest-worker program, being as the prototype for it was dreamed up by Ronnie RayGun. . . . No understanding the far right, is there?
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By Connie in Alachua on May 3, 2006 1:22 PM EDT
Sorry I didn't clean up the text. I'm not familiar with text conversion with my scanner.
There's an editorial cartoon relating to this. The Gainesville Sun's website has almost impossible to access since last night. If and when you can go there check it out.
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By puddle*in*NYC on May 3, 2006 1:25 PM EDT
Happy happy belated to Miss Code Pink birthday girl, who is always an inspiration on this blog.

And kudos to Indy, Charlie and all the worker-bees who just keep on keeping on! Howard collected an amazing bunch of people around him, and I'm glad to be counted among this company!
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 1:27 PM EDT
cChalfonte wrote on May 3, 2006 01:03 PM

Ok, let's think about this for a moment. Isn't it strange that malnourished agricultural workers who don't even speak English are competing with well-educated native-born Americans? How can that be? Why would employers prefer to hire them? Is it just a matter of hiring those who are willing to accept a lower wage? I don't think so.

I read an article the other day about how detrimental it is for a child's intellectual development to be watching TV before the age of two. The explanation centered on the importance of developing all the sensory input paths. That is, it's important for the development of human intelligence to develop tactile skills, small and large muscles, etc and, of course, to speak.
Thus, TV is bad because it fosters none of that. What the TV fosters is sitting still and listening. In other words, the TV promotes the consumer model and production is ignored.
So, what if it's not just the first two years that are critical? What if our whole educational system follows the same pattern, promoting people as vessel into which things are poured to be digested and from which nothing emanates but waste?
Could it be that people from all the backwards regions of the globe are able to function in our society but our own children can't because we've been raising them up to be empty vessels?
How many of our high school graduates are prepared to dig a ditch, much less roof a house? They, like their intrepid leader, don't even know how to hold a shovel or a hammer. Whose fault is that?

We built a garage a couple of years ago and I was in charge of shingling the roof, with the help of a college student we'd hired. The first day was a disaster. The fellow, who'd been doing pretty well helping to do the framing and the sheathing, had a hard time balancing on the roof and making sure the shingles stayed in a straight line. He got frustrated and I sent him home early. No doubt, his wrist was aching as well. The next day, after I'd undone some of the waves he left me, he managed to get the hang of it. And then he felt proud that he'd learned something new, without even being aware of it. That is, by doing, his muscles had learned to do a job and after a good night of rest, he became more and more expert.
Not everyone can did a ditch either. I've tried to teach someone who didn't have enough muscular co-ordination to get the dirt from one place to another where it was wanted.
For some reason we are quite prepared to train our young peoples' muscles for long distance running and all kinds of sport, but training them to transform the material substances nature provides is incidental.
So, many of our unemployed are unemployable because they don't know how to do anything.
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By battlebob1 on May 3, 2006 1:37 PM EDT

Another side of the immigration issue...

from Sojourners...



The Christian face of immigration

by David Batstone

Diana Villanueva-Hoeckley did not take the typical path to Westmont College, a Christian liberal arts college in Montecito, California. The 19-year-old sophomore was born in Guatemala, and then smuggled into the United States at the age of 7. Her story makes you want to cry. What the U.S. Congress may do to her makes you want to scream.



Diana's mother came to the United States legally in the mid-1990s. Once she had established some semblance of a life for herself in the Los Angeles area, she tried to obtain a visa for her daughter to come and live with her. The U.S. Embassy turned down her application. Desperate to have her daughter by her side, she paid a "coyote," or migrant smuggler, to deliver Diana to California.



Imagine the fright of being told at age 7 that you must take a long, covert journey with a stranger, all alone. Diana today can only recall snippets: a bus journey, a short plane ride, hanging out at borders waiting for the right moment to cross. "I just kept focused on how great it would be together with my mother again," says Diana.



Not long after her arrival into the U.S., Diana and her now-pregnant mother moved to Santa Barbara. Diana's sister, Estrellita, was born. Earning a meager income from a string of housecleaning jobs, her mother moved the family into a small trailer. Diana attended public schools in the Santa Barbara area starting in the third grade.



During her freshman year in high school, Diana took note that her mother was not looking well. Lacking health insurance, her mother visited a health clinic serving a low-income population. At first she was diagnosed with pneumonia, but slowly it became apparent that something much more serious was going on. She had lung cancer, and died within two years.



Chris Hoeckley and Cheri Larsen Hoeckley are both professors at Westmont College. Their daughter, Mackenzie, was Estrellita's classmate at the local public school. Many there were heartbroken by Diana and Estrellita's loss. The Hoeckleys reached out and embraced the girls into their family.



The Hoeckleys had for some time looked to adoption as an avenue for growing their family. Their desire to parent matched their religious conviction that God calls us to care for the orphans in need. They went through the county process to legally adopt the Villanueva children. In the midst of much tragedy, the Hoeckleys, now 5 in number, patched together a loving connection.



If only the story could move on from there to focus on the life experiences that all families look to create. But most families do not face criminal prosecution. Yet, Diana may one day soon be charged as a felon for illegally immigrating to this country 13 years ago. And her adoptive parents also could be criminally charged for aiding and abetting an illegal immigrant.



Legislation currently being debated in the U.S. House of Representatives actually contains these provisions. Diana cannot believe this is happening in a country she has come to love. "I'm shocked that people don't see me as someone who belongs here; this is my home," she told me sadly. Though Diana was legally adopted by the Hoeckleys, in many renditions of the legislation she would not be protected. And now that she is 19, she would be prosecuted as an adult.



"I look around and see so many immigrants here who are working so hard to make a good life," Diana said. "Why can't people see the big picture?"



Indeed, the big picture tells a different story to the political fear-mongering on immigration. The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that nearly 12 million undocumented immigrants are living in the U.S. A number of studies demonstrate that they are anything but a "drain" on the U.S. economy as is widely feared. Douglass S. Massey, a Princeton University professor, has documented the contributions of undocumented workers to the government: 62% have taxes withheld from their paychecks, and 66% pay Social Security. Their payments to Social Security totalled $7 bilion in 2004, and in the same year they paid $1.5 billion to Medicare. Ironically, Massey found these workers usually don't take advantage of these programs, fearing the INS will be alerted to their presence in this country, Forbes reported.



All too many Americans do see immigrants as criminals, unfortunately. The New York Times on April 25 cited a Survey USA poll taken in the state of Kansas that shows nearly three-quarters of adults in the sample surveyed agree to the proposal that "the United States should find and deport all illegal immigrants." If only they could meet the Dianas who will suffer from this xenophobic zeal.



Diana studies in Westmont's San Francisco Urban Program in this semester. As part of her school work, she interns with a Catholic Charities program that aids immigrants. She is beginning to make a deeper connection between her life story, and that of other immigrants, to the gospel. "It comforts me that Jesus was seen as an outsider, and gathered around him followers who also were considered outsiders," said Diana. "Too many Christians at this moment are too scared and confused to see Jesus in the stranger, and realize how lives would be torn apart by these new laws."



If she is allowed to remain in the U.S., Diana has dreams of going to law school and eventually helping out vulnerable immigrants who cannot afford legal advice.



The Hoeckleys are most frightened to lose their daughter. "I have three daughters, full stop," says Cheri. "Now the government is trying to take away one of them."



From time to time, both professors lead discussions on immigration at church adult education classes. They express dismay that even socially-oriented religious communities have not reflected biblically or theologically to any great extent on immigration.



The Hoeckleys are encouraged by the principled position taken by several Christian churches to support the orphan, the widow, and the foreigner regardless the direction that legislation takes. The high profile stand made by Cardinal Roger Mahony also, they hope, will help Christians evaluate their politics on immigration.



"Our primary obligation as Christians is to embrace the foreigner, the stranger amongst us," said Chris. "I wish American Christians could see that appeals to 'national interest' or 'homeland security' should not lead us to abandon our highest principles."



There are hundreds of Christian colleges, both Protestant and Catholic, operating in the U.S. Imagine the impact these schools could have on the immigration debate if they would rally around families such as the Hoeckleys who find themselves threatened by this legislation. Christian colleges exist to educate young hearts and minds for Christian service. What better moment for faculty and students at Christian colleges to fulfill their vocation and welcome the stranger.



It is a movement waiting to be born. I pray God stirs some hearts.

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By ceci on May 3, 2006 1:42 PM EDT
I would like to hear Gov. Howard Dean denounce Democratic Whip Rep. Hoyer for deriding Colbert, defending the preznit and expressing Shrub deserves respect.

RESPECT???????????

IMPEACHMENT AND JAIL- THAT IS WHAT W DESERVES.
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By cChalfonte on May 3, 2006 1:47 PM EDT
So, many of our unemployed are unemployable because they don't know how to do anything.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Yes!
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By MonicaSmith on May 3, 2006 1:50 PM EDT

Charlie seems to have put a hex on the Gainesville Sun. the service is now "unavailable"

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By former on May 3, 2006 1:54 PM EDT
MonicaSmith wrote on May 3, 2006 01:27 PM:

...What if our whole educational system follows the same pattern, promoting people as vessel into which things are poured to be digested and from which nothing emanates but waste?
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Bravo Monica!
And not only "educational system follows the same pattern"..., any other subsystem of THAT SYSTEM "promoting people as vessel"..., or even more simply: as any other...COMMODITY...
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By LZ XRAY on May 3, 2006 1:56 PM EDT
Dozens killed in Iraq as parliament meets
AFP - 33 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Dozens of people have been killed across Iraq in bombings and execution-style sectarian shootings as parliament held its first working session since elections in December.
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Sunnis killing Shiites and Shiites killing Sunnis....why does everything that our incompetent president involve us in turn to stone...I mean, everything that pitiful excuse for an executive touches turns to stone...ie Katrina, prescription drugs, port deals, the QUAGMIRE in Iraq, etc....
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By LZ XRAY on May 3, 2006 1:59 PM EDT

Where are the WMD?

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By JudyforDean on May 3, 2006 2:07 PM EDT
...kimmy wrote on May 3, 2006 12:27 PM:

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Love atcha, kimmy! It's fun to see how the blog just sizzles when you join in!

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And lindab: pink hair may be the new "IN" thang! If you've got it, flaunt it! And happy belated BD!

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Charlie, thanks so much for the description of what is happening in Alachua. And thanks so much for holding these people accountable!
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By Mike*in*Raleigh*NC on May 3, 2006 2:12 PM EDT
cChalfonte wrote on May 3, 2006 01:47 PM:


So, many of our unemployed are unemployable because they don't know how to do anything.<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Yes!
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We started going outer limits in the mid/late 1970s............everybody wanted to go to college to get away from dirty blue collar jobs......the trades were soon forgotten......ironic though, how many trades pay more than the white collar jobs and have far more job security..................

How many illegal immigrants come here replacing lawyers and wall street bankers? The get jobs here because they can DO the jobs, and for peanuts as well..............

In my mind an illegal immigrant can come here to work, but must pay taxes, have automobile insurance(proven every 6 months)and will not become a "burden to the state", ala welfare.....

English will be a requirement( take night courses) and you can sing the national anthem with a quartet of mariachi singers if you have a mind to..........thats OK...........

IF convicted of a crime you are deported, you can protest once you become a citizen, before that nada nada..........

Military service will be an option in instant citizenship but I would advise against it for now.
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By LZ XRAY on May 3, 2006 2:13 PM EDT
Oil Prices Fall As Gas Demand Flattens

But Iran continued to occupy center stage.

On Tuesday, an Iranian official reiterated the country's intention to keep enriching uranium, while U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns said he believed European governments will agree to sanctions against Iran.

The United States, Britain and France plan to introduce a new Security Council resolution this week that would make Iran's compliance with their demands mandatory, and enforceable through sanctions or military action.

As of yet, there has been no talk of economic sanctions that could slow Iran's oil exports. China is a big customer for Iranian oil, and a cutoff of its oil exports would likely send oil prices surging.
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You know, if peace fails, there will be conflict. However, tremendous amounts of money will be made for a particular industry (OIL). There are trade-offs to everything.
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By Mike*in*Raleigh*NC on May 3, 2006 2:14 PM EDT
LZ XRAY wrote on May 3, 2006 01:59 PM:


Where are the WMD?
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The same place the terrible russkies and the paint the world red slogan was 40 years ago.....in politicians minds, thats all.......
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By LZ XRAY on May 3, 2006 2:18 PM EDT

Thirty six billion dollars was Exxon/Mobile's profit last year. How is one company allowed to benefit so much at the expense of so many hard-working American people? Why isn't the decayed Congress doing something about it?

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By LZ XRAY on May 3, 2006 2:22 PM EDT
Mike*in*Raleigh*NC wrote on May 3, 2006 02:14 PM:

LZ XRAY wrote on May 3, 2006 01:59 PM:

Where are the WMD?
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The same place the terrible russkies and the paint the world red slogan was 40 years ago.....in politicians minds, thats all.......
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With the diversion of vital resources from Afghanistan to Iraq, one would have to wonder that or come to the conclusion that this administration is so grossly INCOMPETENT that they need to be removed by legislative means.
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By former on May 3, 2006 2:26 PM EDT
LZ XRAY wrote on May 3, 2006 02:18 PM:


Thirty six billion dollars was Exxon/Mobile's profit last year. How is one company allowed to benefit so much at the expense of so many hard-working American people? Why isn't the decayed Congress doing something about it?
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...lol..., "doing something"...what? cutting their own paychecks from...Exxon/Mobile and alike...?
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By vb on May 3, 2006 2:40 PM EDT
eci wrote on May 3, 2006 01:42 PM:

I would like to hear Gov. Howard Dean denounce Democratic Whip Rep. Hoyer for deriding Colbert, defending the preznit and expressing Shrub deserves respect.

RESPECT???????????

IMPEACHMENT AND JAIL- THAT IS WHAT W DESERVES.
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I'd like to see several in the administration in shackles. Each day that passes I gett more and more ticked off.

I still can't believe nearly 1/3 of this country thinks he's the King.
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By vb on May 3, 2006 2:40 PM EDT

s/b get not gett.

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By *lindab on May 3, 2006 2:48 PM EDT
Wowser, Charlie has an editorial defending him!!
Wow, he has made a name for himself making a difference. Who would have thunk???
A thousand Howardly's to Charlie. You are da bomb.
Maybe the Daily Show should do something on this.
Or colbert.
Or maybe cnn, nah, they are touting the coming bird flue pandemic. give it a break.

Note: do not hang around birds that are coughing.

and I do like the Code Pink lady name. They are making a difference.
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By donna*in*evanston on May 3, 2006 2:51 PM EDT

lindab, I have defrosted a turkey breast for dinner. Sould I be afraid?

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By *lindab on May 3, 2006 2:52 PM EDT

the gainsville newspaper website said it's server has been down due to heavy traffic. wonder why.

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By Lenny in Iowa on May 3, 2006 2:55 PM EDT
Joan*in*Florida

is waiting for folks on the

new thread
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By *lindab on May 3, 2006 3:00 PM EDT
donna*in*evanston wrote on May 3, 2006 02:51 PM:


lindab, I have defrosted a turkey breast for dinner. Sould I be afraid?

just don't baste it with feria #72 irredescent hair color unless u want a pink turkey.

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