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Guest Blogger Marc Chadwick: DFA's Duct Tape

Written by: Zephyr Teachout on Feb 16, 2004 11:55 AM EST

IT Infrastructure: We are DFA’s Duct Tape

When anybody in DFA has a technical issue, they come straight to our cube. The phone rings, or somebody walks over. Each time that happens, one of us looks up from a task like monitoring the mail server (over a million served and counting!) and says “I can help!”

My name is Marc Chadwick. I’ve worked in IT here in Burlington for the last year or so, and I’ve seen a lot of changes. When I started here, the Blog was… well, it wasn’t. Shortly after we started our Call to Action blog --Who here remembers the Call to Action blog? – somebody asked me to take a look at the code; we drew a picture, and I started building. About a month later, we were ready to launch the Blog for America, and things have never been the same since.

As the campaign has grown, so has the IT infrastructure group. Now there are about 15 people who work together to make sure that the tech side of the campaign stays up and running. We spend a lot of time making sure that all our users have stable and secure internet, e-mail and telephone service. We keep track of computer hardware, cell phones, phone systems, network infrastructures, internet connectivity and data – lots of data. This part of our job is about information and communication. Every time you see an e-mail update from the campaign, it gets to you because of the work we do here every day.

Another big part of our work is supporting DFA field offices; for instance, Wisconsin has three field offices, and each of them has different IT needs. Every time we open a new office, folks from infrastructure are some of the first people on the ground. We do whatever it takes – almost. That could mean laying cable, hauling boxes, or scrounging for equipment and making sure the various bits and pieces can talk to each other. If you volunteer at a DFA office near you making make phone calls or stuff envelopes for the campaign, chances are that one of us set up the phone bank you’re using and another one of us networked the computers that made the mailing labels and the letters.

When a field operation is finished, we are there to break the whole thing down. We collect the data, evaluate the equipment, and figure out where everything should go next. Then the whole process starts all over again. Out in the field, the days and nights are long, but as our delegate count goes up, we know we’ve made a real difference.

The people I work with in IT are great. We came together from different places and different situations. Some of us are students, others took leave of absence from a job; some have families, others found somebody to watch the cats and one of our IT staffers brought the cat with him from Seattle. We could all probably be working somewhere else for more money and shorter hours; but each of us heard Governor Dean’s message about change, and we are all proud to put our technical skills and experience to work to help send that message far and wide.

In this campaign, some people do their part with pen and paper, others do theirs with phone calls and yard signs. In IT, we harness the power of CAT-5 and duct tape.

If we all do our part, together, we can take our country back.

Marc Chadwick is a founding member of DFA’s IT team. He lives in Burlington year round. February 26 is his one-year anniversary with the campaign. He is registered at the Burlington House of Overwork.

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By Bott on Feb 16, 2004 11:55 AM EST
Roy Neel:

I hope this suggestion helps.

Go all out on Feb. 24, Idaho, Utah, and Hawaii. Go for Broke.

We don’t need to win them all, we need to win ONE, and come very close in the others.

It will show momentum for March 2.

On Feb 25, put up a Bat and we will do the rest.

HOWARD DEAN WILL BE PRESIDENT 2005

PS. Notice how John Edwards talks about EMOTIONAL issues i.e. the poor, race “it’s a moral issue.” Any psychologist will tell you that the way to change momentum is to use EMOTION.
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By Garrett Rose on Feb 16, 2004 11:55 AM EST
Write letters to Idaho, Utah, and Hawaii starting NOW!

It is probably too late to write letters to the editors of Wisconsin newspapers. It would help if a lot of people started NOW writing letters to the editors of papers in Utah, Idaho, and Hawaii.

For the letters to Idaho and Utah, talk about Dean as the moderate candidate left in the race. You can talk about his strong morality and describe him as a loving family man. Write letters that will resonate with the people that read them.

Start writing by going to:

http://www.writefordean.org/cgi-bin/index.cgi

GO DEAN!!!
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By Average American voter on Feb 16, 2004 11:56 AM EST
>>Dean deserves so much better than he has received - I wish every American could hear him speak, see him and look him in the eye and then they would know..<<

Know what, exactly? That Governor Dean is a sincere, hard-working candidate who will do exactly what he's promising to do if elected? Here's a clue: I believe you! However, after visiting Dean's web site to learn his positions, I find that I seriously disagree with the good doctor on several issues that are of great importance to me, and so I will not vote for him. Being a registered Republican, it looks like I won't be given the opportunity anyway.

Sometimes, this campaign has seemed too much like a personality cult, and I suspect that this may be what has scared off many primary voters.
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By John from Tucson on Feb 16, 2004 11:56 AM EST

DEAN IS FIRST

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By lindab on Feb 16, 2004 11:56 AM EST
We are surging!!!!!!!!
Zogby shows we are going up and Kerry is coming down. We were at 12% on friday, now we are at 23%. how bout those apples!!
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By chaz on Feb 16, 2004 11:57 AM EST
We are moving up in Wisconsin!!
I can feel it in the air. The polls are showing a Dean surge. We are going to surprise lots of people tomorrow night.

Dean is getting big and excited crowds all over the state. There are lots of people still undecided and willing to listen to us regarding Dean.
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By kc on Feb 16, 2004 11:58 AM EST
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ATTENTION GRASSROOTS :

Hey guys, today is the day we need EVERYBODY in our grassroots campaign to come through for us. TOMORROW is the Vote. TODAY we have the chance to make an impact on that vote.

Dr. Dean can't do it all by himself. He needs US TODAY.

Please help us make some phone calls to undecided voters in Wisconsin. There are still THOUSANDS of them who haven't been talked to yet.

Please help us out here. We don't have enough callers!

It's easier than you think, and it's even kind of fun. You'll be surprised how many people listen to you, and you'll feel great after convincing a few people to come over to our side.

So c'mon guys, help us out! We need you right now. Thanks!

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By John in Cincinnati on Feb 16, 2004 11:58 AM EST

A big *thanks* to Marc and the IT team!

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By piro on Feb 16, 2004 11:59 AM EST

w00t!

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By alnj on Feb 16, 2004 12:00 PM EST
Repost From Bottom Of Last Thread

I guess the Torch didn't like that "Democratic Wing Of The Democrat Party" stuff...
From www.politics.com:

Five days before the June '03 Republican primary, ex-Sen. Bob Torricelli contributed $1,000 to former GOP State Chairman Chuck Haytaian, who was seeking a political comeback in the 23rd district against Assembly incumbents Mike Doherty and Connie Myers. Haytaian's $2,000 contribution to Torricelli's '02 re-election campaign was an issue in the primary, which the former Speaker and U.S. Senate candidate lost by a wide margin.
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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 12:01 PM EST
Dean needs to hold on until March 2, \\ voters are just now hearing about the Drudge Report and the realization that everyone is the world has it in their newspapers except America. The word is spreading fast and furious and if Dean holds on,
(Don't forget Kerry is not even 9 congressional districts in NY State, about 1/3 of the delegates there which equal about 8 states Kerry has already won) Kerry will be stepping down sometime after March 2.

People who say the Drudge report is something not to believe forget that Drudge was first with Monica and whether we like it or not, it resulted in the impeachment of a president. So before you all call Drudge crazy, let's see what happens and be in a position to take on the DLC and DNC when and if Kerry is forced out. It's only a few weeks and Dean has said he would stay for us if we wanted him to.

So lets send some money to HQ so he knows we want him to stay after Wisconsin.
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By Barbara VA on Feb 16, 2004 12:01 PM EST

Has anyone heard anything more about Maine's count? I think we need election reform in this country. It seems odd that each state can do whatever they want with ballots and there is no oversight and no accountability.

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By JimA on Feb 16, 2004 12:02 PM EST
I think that under the circumstances, Dean's 23% in this latest Zogby Poll, is nothing short of miraculous.

He is getting no help from the media, as he never has, he's got worms in his own campaign, the DNC wants him to go away, and yet he keeps on fighting.

How'd you like to be on the Titanic with this Grossman dude...what a slime. Well, someday he'll get his.

It gets very depressing when you think about how daunting all of this is.

But on the positive side, look at that 20%. That's an un-shakable, un-flinching fighting core. I think that's pretty darn impressive.

As for the rest of you wishy-washy, spineless bandwagon jumpers. If the American Revolution was fought with traitors like you, we'd all be back in merry old England right now sipping tea.

God bless Howard Dean for weathering all of this as well as he has. He deserves our support til' the end.

As for this whole corrupted scene, it is very disheartening. All I can think of is that line from American Pie, about "Satan laughing with delight."

I have a feeling he's laughing his ass off right now.
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By irmaly on Feb 16, 2004 12:03 PM EST
Question in the "spirit" of Al Sharpton at last night's debate:

Does Kerry KNOW he's a liar?
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By Philly support on Feb 16, 2004 12:03 PM EST
A NEW CHALLENGE!!

We know Dr. Dean is the best candidate for President in 2004.
But our reasons for need to be made clear. I will start with just 5. Please, one by one, concisely add to the list. Then, tell someone that very reason today.


A million reasons to vote for Howard Dean.

1. He has a record of results for health care reform.
2. He wants to fix the entire campaign finance process.
3. He knows how to balance the budget AND rebuild the economy
4. He wants to restore an equal & just American community under the rubric of HOPE.
5. He sees active investment in children's education as crucial to our nation's future.
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By Charles in Montana on Feb 16, 2004 12:03 PM EST
Just a note to let everyone know Ravenwind is with us and reading the blog daily. She still has a registration issue with the new blog setup.
Thanks for your email Ravenwind.
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By irmaly on Feb 16, 2004 12:04 PM EST

Caution: beware of the Zogby poll this morning. It adds in "leaners" which fooled us once before. I would love to, but don't, believe those numbers.

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By Cat on Feb 16, 2004 12:04 PM EST

Just read about the grossman on msnbc.com. Has he been fired yet?

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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 12:04 PM EST
Let's use this campaign's superior technological achievement to our best advantage RIGHT NOW!

Find a houseparty in your area tonight:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/presidentsday

Make calls to Wisconsin voters today:
http://dialingfordean.com/

Contribute to the DFA campaign right now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/contributenow

We can't control the news or the polls, but we are best equipped of anyone out there to tell the Dean story and make a difference.

Go, Dean!
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By Lolo on Feb 16, 2004 12:04 PM EST
Hey, if you're angry at Grossman, or the DNC, turn that anger into ENERGY and CALL WISCONSIN VOTERS!!

There are a lot of people out there who WANT information! Just talk to them about Dean...and they will listen.

This is it folks...let's all DO IT.
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By woodstock mom on Feb 16, 2004 12:05 PM EST
Stuck in bed with the flu, I've been doing a lot of hard thinking.
Honestly, it doesn't look like we're going to win the nomination. But couldn't we win Congress? A Democratic Congress is just as important as a Democratic President. We showed in Iowa that we could give Boswell a boost. What about focusing our amazing grassroots and fundraising efforts at crucial races around the country? "Dr. Dean Delivers Congress" should be the headline we envision in November.
This is important for many reasons:
1. We need to stop these Radical Republican Fascists!
2. It buys Dean, and us, political power for the future. A third party candidacy will trivialize Dean instead of reinvigorate him. Look to the future!
3. When Dean runs again, he and us will be taken very seriously.
Dr. Dean--PLEASE LEAD US TO TAKE BACK CONGRESS! We're ready to follow you.
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By Gooserock on Feb 16, 2004 12:06 PM EST
Careful about exaggerated exhuberence.

"We are surging!!!!!!!!
Zogby shows we are going up and Kerry is coming down."

lindab at February 16, 2004 11:56 AM

Wonderful if it's true--but didn't Zogby show a non-existent Dean
surge once before?

Fingers crossed, prayers said, sidewalk cracks dutifully avoided....
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 12:06 PM EST
Dean and The Great American Dilemma 2004:

I think Dean may have been an idealist when embarking on this campaign. Yes, he knew there were problems with the Democratic party. But I doubt he knew just HOW corrupt the party is and just HOW much the decisions are already set in stone before the voters even weigh in and just HOW much people really DON'T have the power anymore.

Dean's most recent behavior, comments and weariness seems as if he now understands what the deal is and just how corrupt the Democratic leadership is.

The question is: Will Dean take them on and rescue America for all of us? Or will he not take them on and drop out?

I sympathize with him because it takes a strong man to do this. I am sorry that such a task has fallen on his shoulders. I would not blame him if he decided not to do it. It takes the strength of character of people like MLK Jr., Tom Paine, Ralph Nader, Harriet Tubman, Ghandi and Mother Teresa to sacrifice self and battle forces of power for the good of an entire country that may take 50 years before they realize they should be grateful for what you have done. Dean is in a critical position right now and this is a critical moment in this nation's history. He can take on the task of rescuing America from the downward spiral we are on that is being aided by Republicans AND Democrats or he can let the DNC win and let us continue that downward spiral more slowly but still downwardly nonetheless.

I pray that Dean knows what he's up against. I pray that God gives Dean the strength to carry on the mission he has begun by staying in this race and fighting into the convention. I for one will stick by him and I know others will too. I wish he would rally African American voters, because they more than anyone know and understand the struggles he is up against. They more than anyone will stand up with him, if he could articulate to them the relationship between his struggle and theirs.

We don't need the masses to change this country, just a few dedicated individuals who understand the importance of these times. Once the movement has begun and the vision has been articulated clearly, believe me others will come on board.
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By ChuckThies on Feb 16, 2004 12:06 PM EST

My loyalties are unflagging. The path I take toward the goal of defeating Bush in November (and winning a majority in Congress) will be alongside Governor Dean.

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By Joan in Florida on Feb 16, 2004 12:06 PM EST
We are Howard Dean's Cyber Think Tank. I hope he is paying as much attention to us as he does to the polls and election results.

Stay the course, don't quit, all the way to Boston. We will support.

GO DOC.
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By ceci on Feb 16, 2004 12:06 PM EST
At first I was incredulous and now I am seething over the Steven Grossman statement. I read the NYTimes article, shortly after midnight and posted it on a previous thread. It kept me tossing and turning all night.
I had no idea even that a certain Steven Grossman was the chairman of Dean campaign. I was familiar with the names Trippi and Neel.
Ever since the results in Iowa I have had a sinking feeling in my stomach and a perception Gov. Dean was not being well served by the "top tier" of his advisers. It has been bugging me. The sudden departure of Trippi was unsettling. I someone would have told me before Iowa I would be watching Joe Trippi as an election analyst within weeks, I would have sent them to a shrink.
News we were short of money was not comforting either. Then came the arrival of Neel and his postings have sounded sincere and I was willing, as I have been throughout these long months to simply trust Dr. Dean's judgment and decisions. And I still do.
Since Grossman "outed "himself yesterday, maybe with Gov. Dean's prior knowledge, a betrayal nonetheless, particularly on the eve of the Wisconsin primary and in light our very successful effort in raising over 700 thousand dollars over en 8 hour period- in answer to an appeal by Gov. Dean - It was an appeal for a new ad campaign in Wisconsin.
So, I would like some explanation of this quote, published yesterday in the Wilgroden piece about Grossman:

""None of us are doing a whole lot right now, because there's not a whole lot to do," one top Dean aide said Sunday, on the condition he not be named. "We've put one ad on the air in Wisconsin. We're not polling anymore. We're not going to have the money to run some full-fledged campaign for March 2."

ONE AD???????????????? NOT DOING MUCH OF ANYTHING??????
++++++++++++++++++HQ please address this~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There are a lot of people who would like a chance to vote for Howard Dean in the New York primaries. I attended a Valentine's Day gathering at a friend's upstate New York. 16 guests. Most of them were Dean supporters.
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By alnj on Feb 16, 2004 12:07 PM EST

The above Torricelli stuff is reported at www.politicsnj.com. Sorry for the wrong address.

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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 12:07 PM EST
Sorry, I forgot this one:

Help fund grassroots advertisements in upcoming primary states:
http://www.aspenwilde.com/dfa.htm
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By Lolo on Feb 16, 2004 12:08 PM EST
Don't count on a rise in the polls to mean anything...

we can't take a single vote for granted!

If you've ever thought about making calls to undecided voters, DO IT TODAY.

YOUR HELP could mean the difference!


Wouldn't it be neat if every person reading this blog brought in ONE NEW DEAN vote?

WE CAN DO IT IF WE TRY.
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By Cat on Feb 16, 2004 12:08 PM EST

Steve Grossman = Judas

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By Rita in DC on Feb 16, 2004 12:08 PM EST
PLEASE FOCUS AND FIGHT FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS!

--Write e-mails to the editors of media in Wisconsin. KEEP THEM SHORT--200 to 300 words! Go to one of these sites:

http://www.writefordean.org/cgi-bin/index.cgi

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/

--Contact everyone you know in Wisconsin!

--Make phone calls to Wisconsin voters! E-mail

ben@dialingfordean.com

and when you get a reply, visit

http://dialingfordean.com/Security.html

-------Here are some suggestions from a longtime veteran of political action phone banks:

-------1. When you e-mail Ben to ask for phone numbers, ask if you can make calls even if you can't input data on your computer at the same time. At this stage, chances are that the answer will be yes! I'm about to find out myself. : )

-------2. When you e-mail Ben to ask for phone numbers, ask if you can get a list of Dean supporters and do GOTV (get out the vote) calls. If so, all you'll have to do is remind those folks to vote for Gov. Dean tomorrow! It's as easy as pie--honest! At this point, even if you're talking to undecideds, you can make it a *quick* call. At this point, quantity is much more important than quality--honest!

-------3. This may seem trivial, but it isn't! KEEP SMILING when you're on the phone. The voters can "hear" you smiling--honest and truly! No, they won't think you're laughing at them; they'll be more inclined to like you and your message--honest and truly!

--Contribute, using *any* bat or any "Contribute" link. The bat is just a graphic fundraising device. If you can contribute, please do so now! Our "motivation" is to keep the Dean campaign alive! : )

SI, SE PUEDE! LET'S POUR IT ON FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS!
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By Felicia on Feb 16, 2004 12:08 PM EST
irmaly... too funny

so what is an intentional lie? when you thought you wouldn't get caught in the lie.

Matt Gross left the campaign last night I believe

What's up with maine?
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By believer on Feb 16, 2004 12:09 PM EST

Hey Average American Voter, how about discussing issues you disagree with, rather than coming in for a hit and run visit - we are about engaging people on issues, which it appears YOU don't want to bring up...or will you ever even check back on the blog???

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By Nobody_But_Dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:10 PM EST

Super Tuesday's coming. At last the major leagues. Up in Wisconsin polls. The shift in momentum marks the turning of the tide. Fear no darksome troll. Take no prisoners. Now is the time when the Deaniacs in their multitudes will rise from from every precinct, every county, every state and their wrath shall shake the very foundations of the Democratic establishment.

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By santa_cruz_marco on Feb 16, 2004 12:10 PM EST
my email to Craig Gilbert cgilbert@journalsentinel.com
at the Milwaukee Sentinel,
He was one of the panelists last night and he was on C-SPAN going pro-Edwards after the Sentinel endorsed him today. Big surprise, his bias was obvious.

Mr. Gilbert-
Your obvious anti-Dean bias is appalling. Kerry received 15 responses to only 8 or 9 of the other candidates in last night's debate. In addition, they were long winded and evasive, but no one stopped him and no one called him on it. Yet again, on C-span this morning, despite the fact that Dean is polling second in WI, your professed that Dean was inconsequential yet Edwards was an real alternative. My questions to you are:

Why is the press so afraid of Howard Dean?
Why is there no coverage of the Kerry/Torricelli/Osama link?
Why no coverage of potential voting irregularities in caucuses?
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By Michele in Mukilteo on Feb 16, 2004 12:10 PM EST
Ok grassroots!

Help me mobilze Washington STATE!

There were over 40,000 people who went on a Saturday morning to talk passionately about Dr DEAN to the people.

We were able to hold second place, in the mists of the Kerry Kraze. Kucinich is a darling over here and he did well to. NOT a sign of Edwards...

We are left hanging, trying to keep ourselves to gether in the absence of a Seattle HQ.

THIS WILL GET US BACK IN SERVICE!!!

MOBILIZE WASHINGTON STATE DEAN DEMOCRATS!

We are so close - in west coast terms - driving distance! 5 hours to Cour D'Elene, 9 to Boise 12 to Salt Lake City.

Are there Deaniacs in those states who can put us to good use!

I'll look up the UT, ID web sites.

NOW ABOUT HAWAII!!!

February is a great time to leave all that snow and ice! Anyone have frequent flyer miles for some visibilty in Hawaii...

Spread the message - quietly - that we've got ID, UT and HA covered.

A quick message from HQ to us DEANIACS in WASHINGTON STATE ought to do the trick. I don't think I can do it for here on the blog...

But I could copy this and send it to our groups!
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By Maria in NYC on Feb 16, 2004 12:10 PM EST
Few minutes ago, in a rally:

Howard Dean: "Thank you for coming...and NO, WE ARE NOT GONNA DROPP OUT THIS RACE"

So, keep going. Revolutions were never easy
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By Nobody_But_Dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:11 PM EST

Super Tuesday's coming. At last the major leagues. Up in Wisconsin polls. The shift in momentum marks the turning of the tide. Fear no darksome troll. Take no prisoners. Now is the time when the Deaniacs in their multitudes will rise from from every precinct, every county, every state and their wrath shall shake the very foundations of the Democratic establishment.

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By kc on Feb 16, 2004 12:12 PM EST
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PLEASE READ :

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Posted by Mary from Montco PA at February 13, 2004 06:41 PM

Some of us feel discouraged; the emotional power of the media is overwhelming. The media will say we're dead (again). But THERE WE'LL STILL BE--raising ungodly sums from small donations (again) like after Iowa and NH. The media will be amazed (again). They'll learn (again) that ordinary Americans don't give up once we've found a way to be HEARD. That we LOVE real democracy. That taking our country back is too important to quit. We won't stop working for Dean until the nomination is nailed.

WE have the power.

Once it's Kerry and Dean, they can't avoid covering Dean (though we'll have to dog the Media for predictably negative coverage, per CMPA statistics, etc.). And, WE WILL spread ads and videos that the Media can't filter--like at and and the new audio download site or . WE WILL expand Meetups and visibility events and tabling. WE WILL do anything and everything we can think of!
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She's right, and it all starts right now!

WE NEED CALLERS FOR WISCONSIN - WE'RE SHORT ON CALLERS. THOUSANDS OF UNDECIDED VOTERS HAVEN'T BEEN REACHED YET.

Please help us out, and make a few calls. Just click on 'Phonebank' on the BlogForAmerica page.

C'mon Deaniacs! We need you!

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By E Sol D on Feb 16, 2004 12:12 PM EST
A couple thoughts:

1. Why re we so excited about Dean being 23 points behind Kerry in the Zogby poll after the undecided votes have been allocated. This is the state we chose for our last stand? Am I missing something?

2. I think hiring Braun is a good idea since we already had to pay her a bunch money in consulting fees for her endorsement, maybe she would work for a discount saving us money for ads. I am a little concerned though since she lost her relection campaign in illinois due to fraud related issue.

3. When are we going to win? Our negatives are so high, how do we pick up more votes beyond our liberal base?
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By Mia on Feb 16, 2004 12:12 PM EST
>>"I find that I seriously disagree with the good doctor on several issues that are of great importance to me, and so I will not vote for him."

I never agree with a candidate on all their positions. I agree with Howard Dean overall (policies, positions, honesty, integrity) and trust him to do his best job as my representative.
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By nonzero on Feb 16, 2004 12:12 PM EST



Note to HQ



As I posted yesterday, in the course of watching the debates I became so exasperated at Dean's silence on the issue of outsourcing that I actually went and registered on the Edwards site. Guess now I'll have to put up with emails from the Edwards campaign, LOL.



Look, I understand that Howard can not come up with a new policy initiative on outsourcing to India during the course of debate, because this issue is very complex - it's not as simple as a factory shutting down here and another factory opening up in China. But sheesh, can't he just show some empathy and say something like "outsourcing jobs to India is causing a lot of pain to many high-tech workers in the US, they like many other factory etc workers have been forgotten by the Bush administration..."



Just say something that brings us into the big tent that is Howard Dean, or don't you have enough room in the tent for us?

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By TMB in VT on Feb 16, 2004 12:14 PM EST
Does anyone else seee Kerry on MSNBC GETTING A FREE TEN MINUTES TO SPEAK TO EVERY ONE

AND STEALING DEAS LINE OF


I"M NOT GOING TO MAKE PROMISES I CAN"T KEEP












HE MAKES ME PHYSICALLY ILL WITH PURE HATRED
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By janefordean on Feb 16, 2004 12:15 PM EST
THANK YOU, boys and babes in Burlington.
Hope the good doctor comes home for a rest, some family time, and then KEEPS GOING! WE'RE NOT QUITTING!
Jane
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By anamericanabroad on Feb 16, 2004 12:15 PM EST
::: HQ :::

Could you please put something more substantial on the blog regarding this piece of sh!t Grossman?

Of course Kos took this opportunity to emblazen this story on the front page of his blog. I am saying this because when the Kerry intern story broke Kos had also on the front page but took pains to call it bullsh!t and inaccurate.

As usual, Kos is not as fair with Grossman story.

Kos's Grossman story also came equipped with "Dean supporters" who are happy and eager to support Kerry with their vote, support and money. They seem to be very happy writing Dean's epitaph. And of course saying what a stand up guy Grossman is....yaaackkk.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/16/3191/63239
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By Cat on Feb 16, 2004 12:15 PM EST
I asked my husband if he would consider running for a local office position. He told me, "Honey, I would never get elected, I'm too much like Howard Dean, I'm honest."


Sheesh, what is the world coming too when people begin to believe that you can't be elected if you dare to tell hard truths about your own party
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By Kurt in San Fran on Feb 16, 2004 12:15 PM EST
Hi all,


I just received a really strange email. I think there might be someone scavenging emails and sending spam with our addresses. The email follows. Interesting thing is that I haven't emailed anyone on the blog and haven't even posted on the blog for several days. Anyone else have strange occurrences like this? I'm running a Mac, so I know I don 't have the mydoom virus. :)


Kurt


Dear Kurt,
Hope this wasn't intentional...anyway, I'm sending it to you as a warning to
clean up your act. Please don't write back to me, if you have anything worth
saying I'll check the blog later.
mg2


Norton AntiVirus deleted the following email message because it was
infected with a virus:


From: [withheld]
To: [withheld]
Subject: hi
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By TMB in VT on Feb 16, 2004 12:17 PM EST
CNN and MSNBC KEEP REFERRING TO STEVE GROSSMAN's

LIES



WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO PUT OUR SUPPORT BEHIND KERRY



Someone at HQ ADDRESS THIS NOW!!!!
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By PatnCincy on Feb 16, 2004 12:17 PM EST
I'm sitting here listening to Bill Schneider talk about the "contribution" Dean has made to the Democratic party. He forgot to mention that Dean gave Kerry, Edwards, and the DNC the very words for their message. They (media and Kerry campaign) still do not take responsibility for the destruction they did to Dean in Iowa and since. Dean didn't screw up - they painted a picture that our campaign didn't refute and slap down. Gov. Dean has not changed his message or his style - the only thing that changes are the attacks by the media and the Torricelli types.
Kerry is a disaster for this party. Sorry folks, I don't buy that the guy is more electable. I've talked to my friends and family at home and they think he's just a big phony - some are Dean supporters and some are undecideds. I'm so afraid all this voting for ABB is going to end up giving us Bush.
Someone please convince me I'm wrong. Already interest in the process is waning - did I not hear that voter participation is already down from what they projected in Missouri, Nevada and DC? We need a candidate that excites people - that feels passion in their support of their candidate - a candidate that moderate Republicans will support.
I know I'm singing to the choir, but I just need to says these things to like-minded individuals.
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By vb on Feb 16, 2004 12:18 PM EST
E Sol D,

I am tired of you speaking in terms of 'we' like you are a real Dean supporter.
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By a voter on Feb 16, 2004 12:18 PM EST
DUCT TAPE is not free!

Swing the Stealth Bat!

(click on the contribute button on the right side of the page)

DUCT TAPE is not free!
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By cdmarine on Feb 16, 2004 12:18 PM EST
We're almost live! We're just waiting for our DNS to kick in. I know of several people who ware working on their own Dean stories right now. You should, too!

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I think one part of continuing this thing is making sure we don't let others write our history for us. They've already been trying to do that for months. They've tried to say we're all about anger. They've tried to say we're all kids. They've tried to say we're all aging hippies. They've tried to say we're all naive. And on and on.

Enough.

We're going to write our own history, and we're going to CONTINUE to write our own history as we move forward.

As the first step of that, I'm going to gather the stories (the REAL stories) of the Dean campaign, in our own words and pictures, in one place.

http://www.iamhowarddean.org/
(It's not there yet. I just registered the domain.)

Please tell me your "I am Howard Dean" story. What got you involved? What do you care about? What did you learn? What did you love? What frustrated you? What were the high points and low points? What was it all really about for you? And, of course, who are you (name, occupation, location, party affiliation, family situation... whatever)?

Include a few small pictures if you'd like (whatever seems meaningful or illustrative to you).

I hope to present each person's story on their own page, and have all of them indexed and accessible in various ways (by state, to begin with).

Please write your story and e-mail it to me at:
cdm at northwestern dot edu
with the subject line:
I am Howard Dean

Please also indicate whether you want your name and/or e-mail address included with your story on-line.

Let's write OUR OWN history.

- Colette D Marine

PS
I know there's already a Blogger Bios site, but this isn't meant to be a duplicate of that. I'm looking for longer, more fleshed-out stories. Also, reach out to people who aren't bloggers, or perhaps aren't even on-line. If all we tell are the stories of blogger-types, we're not going to get the full story.
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By bakingbabo on Feb 16, 2004 12:19 PM EST
Wow!

Will Saletin from Slate on NPR's Day to Day just said what I've been thinking about (and I know a lot of you are too). He created a verbal model of what he thinks Dean should do.

He feels that Dean has created and will be the leader of a significant movement that is not going to go away and that he needs to find a way to morph his candidacy into that movement while (and I may be reading this into what he said) not really ceasing to be a candidate.

I think Dean needs to continue to be available to the Democratic party until Boston. But during this time, he, as the leader of this movement, continues to issue his wise and honest remarks as publically and often as he can. And whatever happens in Boston, he just keeps on doing it. There are a lot of us who aren't going away. Maybe we'll have to vote for someone else to beat Bush (gotta remember the Supreme Court), but the energy from what Dean has started is the kind that goes on and on and continues to regenerate.
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 12:20 PM EST
http://politics.postilion.org/soft_scream.mov

You guys, Dean is not dropping out! Go watch the video above. I think we let the media play with even our minds into thinking Dean might be rethinking his campaign.

Dean said he is NOT DROPPING OUT. He said after Wisconsin he is going to Utah, Hawaii, and he kept naming the states. :)

I am so proud of him. I was afraid that he may not understand how hard change is and how hard you have to fight. But after seeing that video, I see that he is still the fighter, I thought he was when I started supporting him a year ago.
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By Lisa S on Feb 16, 2004 12:20 PM EST
First off...hats off to the IT guys (that is what the blog entry is about guys). They have done a mind-bogglingly good job of keeping a complicated site operational. Think of all the innovations of this campaign technologically: the blog, the on line contribution system, the forum, the radio show... think about how many hits the site gets daily...and very very few glitches. Great work! Also, one of the most impressive things about this campaign is that it has gotten folks who were never interested in politics (think computer geeks) interested in politics. Open source idealism brought to the public arena can't be a bad thing.

And second, I agree with woodstock mom above. Lets start rechannelling this energy to winning back the house and senate and state governments too. If just a few more people in government at all levels were a bit more idealistic rather than power hungry, just imagine what a difference that would make. Go local!
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By Bee in CA on Feb 16, 2004 12:20 PM EST
*** BLOGGERS with FINGERS, A VOICE AND A DEAN HEART!! ***

I've been dialing for Dean this morning and the majority of people I've reached are undecided! They were thinking of voting for Kerry for NO OTHER REASON than they've heard his name and that he's in the lead! These folks are Dean supporters, but don't know it yet! They need you to give them the information they need to support THEIR CANDIDATE.

Please email wendy@dialingfordean.com NOW and make a difference. There's still lots of time left today, before the polls open tomorrow. Do it now!!
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By E Sol D on Feb 16, 2004 12:20 PM EST

Relative to the potemtial sell out of the e-mail list does anyone know what happens if we run out of money and owe creditors (vendors). Does the campaign organization leadership have a fiduciary responsibility to liquidate its assets, including "the list" to raise money and pay of the vendors?

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By Stephen RN on Feb 16, 2004 12:20 PM EST
Well I did it! Hey Phonebanking is easy and I feel like I am doing something besides blogging and praying that Kerry will tell all about the Intern story. Evrer notice though that GW messes up in the Guard(Not tht I feel sorry for him)and the media now is all over it. But Kerry has a very burning issue on his plate and NOTHING? Hmmmm Now I know where his special interest money is coming from.
GO Howard!! I am with you till the end NOV 2004!!!!!
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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 12:20 PM EST
In calls going to Wisconsin voters, anyone here get a response about folks being nervous about the sex/intern scadal about to blow Kerry out of the water?

Just wondering as I can't see why in a few days our poll numbers have surged there.

Kerry's only issue was the media lie about electablility. Everyone can't stand him yet those wishee washee Dems without any backbone keep voting for him. The want a Democrat that stands for the same thing they stand for: nothing.
Major reason why the Democrats continue to lose.

Everyone realizes that except for about 35% of the Democratic Party, which still hasn't figured it out yet. But that is enough to win the first 15 primaries with a big field. What a connundrum?
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By TeresaInPennsylvania on Feb 16, 2004 12:21 PM EST

Right now we are running for the Whitehouse. People with other suggestions are wasting time. Go call people or write letter.

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By Lobsters in AR on Feb 16, 2004 12:21 PM EST
Amen vb! Amen. ITA.


YOU IT GUYS ROCK!!!
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 12:21 PM EST
I love the guy's comments:

Report: Why'd you come all the way from Florida to freezing Wisconsin?

Dean supporter: Well, when something's broke you've got to fix it, m'am!
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By Shelley on Feb 16, 2004 12:22 PM EST
We started as a movement; we morphed into a campaign; we can transform ourselves into a movement again. With our voices, with our money, with our passion, we can allow Governor Dean to make us a power to reckon with within the Democratic party, even if we are not the nominee. The only other alternatives are to give up or to become the Naders of 2004.

Do you trust Governor Dean? And Zephyr and the staff? I do. If we chose Dean as our leader, that means in part that sometimes we trust to his wisdom. I will support whatever he decides to do after tomorrow.

The end of the campaign does not mean the end.
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 12:22 PM EST
It's not too late to help fund radio ads in WI for later today and tomorrow. To see how go here:

Help fund grassroots advertisements in upcoming primary states:
http://www.aspenwilde.com/dfa.htm

Posted by Mia at February 16, 2004 12:20 PM

Yes, Mia! One of the best things we can do right now is support the mass advertising that truthandhope is doing that deal with why dean can beat bush and kerry can't.
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By Stephen NJ RN on Feb 16, 2004 12:24 PM EST

You said it Teresa in PA. Lets keep it + and Keep Calling

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By cracklins on Feb 16, 2004 12:24 PM EST
Hi bloggers.
Thanks for getting our backs here in WI with your letters and phone calls.
Geri in No VA checking in from Milwaukee. We are all working hard to try to win Wisconsin for the Gov. I've been canvassing with Milwaukeean Keith Schmitz, Texans Fran and Marla ad THE Charlie Grapsky... You can see us all -- including Lanya Shapiro from NC, if you view the QuickTime movies I've made of our activities in Milw. Click on my name. or go to http://politics.postilion.org/wislinks.html
http://politics.postilion.org/wislinks.html
"The softer scream" is the clip w/ Gov Dean at the post-debate party listing the states we are "going to" next...and laughing heartily w/ the crowd.

Our grassroots VHS tapes -- as well as the BURN4DEAN DVD's sent from all over the country-- are very well-received, especially by busy yuppie moms who haven't had time to read up on the reeal Dean -- or the not-so-real Kerry ....
Each tape has the name of the volunteer printed right on the label -- hello to all those who donated $50 or more to purchase the dubs. It is really impressive. (On the links page is the local TV news report about the us giving out the tapes which ran two times on Ch. 12 here!)
We are short-handed in passing the tapes out. Hope we can deliver them all today. We are going to black barbers shops and head start schools this morning. Will blog for you later, as per Joe Rospars request.
I hope you enjoy seeing the action in Milw via QuickTime, thanks to i-Movie, and my friend Nic, a techy guy with a server who is hosting our stay and our files ...
RE-BLOG this post for others later... PLEEEASE.
Geri
Posted by geri in no va at February 16, 2004 10:41 AM

CALL WI!
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By Yellin Dog Deanocrat on Feb 16, 2004 12:24 PM EST
I think everyone leaning left or libertarian wants Bush out. I think blaming Grossman (weiner wanking wonk, if Kerry takes him that is proof of Kerry's pathetic politics) or Trippi ian't really addressing the problem.

When Dean went into this he had about as much hope as Kucinich with a message that spoke truth to power even more than Kucinich.

That should have marginalized him to about 6%. Instead he caught on. The problem is we need to make more of us and continue past this election if Botox prick gets the nod.

Anyway, I still believe Howard can pull it off if he gets over 20% in Wisconson.

We need to Keep the Democratic Wing of the Democratic party going even if Howard IS elected president

Rock on Deaniacs, I'm off to the stores and the barbershop with my kids.
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By Mark_67AD on Feb 16, 2004 12:24 PM EST
I used to live in Idaho (Boise High School, Class of '77!) and have some GOTV advice:

- Dean's position on gun control - allowing for state discretion on control beyond what is already on the books - should play very well in Idaho and Utah.
Pro-gun sentiment is very high there; the late Idaho Democratic Senator Frank Church, who was by most measures liberal and an ally of Ted Kennedy, still took a strong position for gun freedom.

- Idahoans are traditionally resistant to anything perceived as outside influence. The most successful letters to the editor will likely come from within the state - so if you know anyone living in Idaho who is supportive of Dean, please encourage them to write a letter to the editor even if they are not normally inclined to speak out publicly.

The good news is that a relatively small number of papers cover most of the State. The Idaho Statesman out of Boise is the big one for Southern Idaho.

The other good news is that Idaho Democrats, as a local minority and geographically disperse, are a strong-willed bunch and not easily intimidated into following the crowd. If we can get Dean's message to them, they are likely to listen.
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By barb in albq on Feb 16, 2004 12:25 PM EST
A primary challenge this campaign has always faced is that we are up against both our own Party and the opposition Party. Now we add a third drag on things: our own campaign chair and whoever else is leaking whining comments to the media, no doubt to save their own skins with a Dem establishment using Kerry's usual carrot and stick tactics to gain support using coertion.

Let's face it, the Kerry campaign has been all about payoffs, threats, strong-arm tactics, and virtual blackmail from day one. He had next to no volunteers, no genuine grassroots, no infrastructure anywhere beyond NH and Iowa, only paid people to hold his signs and wear his tshirts, and absolutely no enthusiasm from voters until he pushed the filthy tactics 24/7.

Using his own and his wife's extensive ties with other plutocrats and media bigwigs, he planted news stories and coopted "journalists." He increased his already extensive filth ties with other in-name-only Dems like Torricelli by threatening a Party backlash if they didn't fall into line, while promising them cushy jobs in his administration if they did. His backroom dealings were evident starting in Iowa, where a filthy alliance with Gephardt forces, the big labor unions and Torricelli produced a coalition to destroy Dean in the backalleys and with the Osama ad. Watch and see what reward Gephardt receives.

I know that in NM, there was a very sudden and almost total swing of Hispanic voters to Kerry in the last weeks of the campaign. Rumors abound, unproveable given an uninterested and co-opted media, about Kerry and Kennedy underlings descending into the old Hispanic "patrone" tunnels of influence with large bills and promises, especially in Northern NM where such a machine still exists under the radar. I have also heard similar tactics were used in certain areas of Iowa.

Kerry didn't go to the people in NM; he went to the strong-arm political powerhouses. Once you threaten them and ease their pain with big bucks and promised rewards, you have no need to actually build a genuine campaign to reach voters. You don't need the politically aware voters who actually vote on issues. All you need are the often uneducated followers of political backroom boys to tell their minions how to vote.

I hope the campaign will continue to confront the filth so pervasive in both parties and everywhere in Washington. REFORM is the goal, and a continued campaign will provide an opportunity to keep spreading our message across the country, despite all the underhanded tactics to silence us coming from everywhere.

Dean is polling ABOVE Edwards. He finished ABOVE Edwards in the last two primaries. He has more money than Edwards and certainly more solid supporters. And yet we are to believe that it is US who should drop out?

Stay with it Howard. We are with you all the way with our eyes on the TRUE prize!
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By Cat on Feb 16, 2004 12:25 PM EST
I've done too many things for the first time in my life with this campaign for moles like Grossman to sabatoge things.

1. Donated hundreds of dollars that I really couldn't afford.

2. Throw house parties when I generally can't stand to be around a bunch of people outside of work. But I did it for Howard

3. Pack my family up and drive 17 hours to Iowa. Didn't really have the time, but I did it for Howard.

4. Bring in over 50 co-workers and family members who really didn't care for politcs at all previously. Risked a lot recruiting people during work hours, but Howard is worth it



What a jerk, I can't believe this guy has betrayed us in such a way. How unprofessional
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By AnneW in NC on Feb 16, 2004 12:25 PM EST

Marc and the entire IT crew, a HUGE thank you. I have no idear how you do it, but you do, and oh so brilliantly! Take a bow.

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By Christiane in Maryland on Feb 16, 2004 12:25 PM EST
Thank you guys in the IT team! YOU are superb!

PLEASE REMEMBER TO UPDATE THE HOME PAGE AS YOU UPDATE THE BLOG PAGE ( it looks better for first time visitors of DFA)

Thanks!
Christiane
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By Maureen in CA on Feb 16, 2004 12:27 PM EST
Howard says were moving on the Utah and Idaho after Wisconsin and I believe him.

Watch this:
http://politics.postilion.org/wislinks.html
(right click and download - need Quicktime)

As a bonus you get to see our own little cutie pie, Charlie Grafski!
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By TeresaInPennsylvania on Feb 16, 2004 12:27 PM EST
bakingbabo

Dean is running for President. Call the guy from slate and tell him. Call NPR and tell them too.
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:28 PM EST

i still believe.

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By Mary from Montco PA on Feb 16, 2004 12:28 PM EST
GERI IN NO VA,

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLIP OF THE GOV AT POST DEBATE RALLLY!
I just emailed it to everyone I know. Steve Grossman should not be allowed to even speak with anyone from this campaign. He has pre-burned any bridge he might ever have fantisized building to us. Beneath pond scum.

Go to this link. Geri in no va's guerrilla video speaks TRUTH TO POWER! She connects us directly to the Gov!

It sure is good to see you, Howard, in your own true skin, keeping on keeping on!

Read Geri's post below, and keep re-posting it all day and tomorrow, too!

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Hi bloggers.

Thanks for getting our backs here in WI with your letters and phone calls.

Geri in No VA checking in from Milwaukee. We are all working hard to try to win Wisconsin for the Gov. I've been canvassing with Milwaukeean Keith Schmitz, Texans Fran and Marla ad THE Charlie Grapsky... You can see us all -- including Lanya Shapiro from NC, if you view the QuickTime movies I've made of our activities in Milw. Click on my name. or go to http://politics.postilion.org/wislinks.html

http://politics.postilion.org/wislinks.html

"The softer scream" is the clip w/ Gov Dean at the post-debate party listing the states we are "going to" next...and laughing heartily w/ the crowd.


Our grassroots VHS tapes -- as well as the BURN4DEAN DVD's sent from all over the country-- are very well-received, especially by busy yuppie moms who haven't had time to read up on the reeal Dean -- or the not-so-real Kerry ....
Each tape has the name of the volunteer printed right on the label -- hello to all those who donated $50 or more to purchase the dubs. It is really impressive. (On the links page is the local TV news report about the us giving out the tapes which ran two times on Ch. 12 here!)

We are short-handed in passing the tapes out. Hope we can deliver them all today. We are going to black barbers shops and head start schools this morning. Will blog for you later, as per Joe Rospars request.

I hope you enjoy seeing the action in Milw via QuickTime, thanks to i-Movie, and my friend Nic, a techy guy with a server who is hosting our stay and our files ...

RE-BLOG this post for others later... PLEEEASE.

Geri
Posted by geri in no va at February 16, 2004 10:41 AM
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By hotdogbaby1965 on Feb 16, 2004 12:29 PM EST

WE are Howard Deans new staff all. WE THE PEOPLE New poster,.??? ....

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By Ni on Feb 16, 2004 12:29 PM EST
The perfect irony for the Grossman mess, of course, would be for Kerry to say "thanks but no thanks" - I don't hire Judas.

Unfortunately, while we would expect such moral clarity from the good doctor, I expect Kerry to hole his arms out wide. Two sleazes who deserve each other.

Thank you Gov, for taking the high road and praising the work Grossman haas done for your campaign. I'm afraid I could never have been as honorable.
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By chaz on Feb 16, 2004 12:29 PM EST

E SOL D who keeps posting here is a not so disguised troll. He will eat crow when the Kerry bimbo erruptions begin--and they will. There goes the electability issue if that happens and that is the only thing that Kerry has had going for him--his support is paper thin--people getting on the bandwagon--nothing more. Dean supporters as you can see are much more passionate and stay with our guy through thick and thin because we know he is the best candidate and has the best record. A week ago in Wisconsin Dean was polling 11% and now he is at 23%. He went from third place to second. He is moving and he is the alternative to Kerry who will be exposed as the fraud and philanderer.

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By Mia on Feb 16, 2004 12:30 PM EST
I've been dialing for Dean this morning and the majority of people I've reached are undecided! They were thinking of voting for Kerry for NO OTHER REASON than they've heard his name and that he's in the lead! These folks are Dean supporters, but don't know it yet! They need you to give them the information they need to support THEIR CANDIDATE.

Please email wendy@dialingfordean.com NOW and make a difference. There's still lots of time left today, before the polls open tomorrow. Do it now!!

This works and is pretty easy. email Wendy now and she'll set you up to make the calls in whatever time amount you can donate to the campaign. Even with just one hour, you can convince 2-10 people to vote for Dean based on telling them about him and the sincerity of your support.
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By barb in albq on Feb 16, 2004 12:30 PM EST
Remember that this Kerry demolition is waiting in the wings. I note that the "major network" is so worried about being inaccurate that they are holding back to investigate. I wonder why they never had such qualms about printing lies about Howard:

Kerry: intern's TV confession
From David Gardner in Washington
16th February 2004

A woman who claims she had an affair with presidential hopeful John Kerry has taped a kiss-and-tell interview with a U.S. TV network, it was revealed last night.

The news is the latest blow to hit John Kerry, the 60-year-old senator who is expected to be George Bush's Democrat challenger for the White House in November.

Former Washington intern Alex Polier, a 24-year-old journalist, is said to have recorded the potentially explosive interview over Christmas.

The network is reportedly sitting on the tape while it carries out its own probe into her claims.

http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/standard/article.html?in_article_id=208100&in_page_id=2
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:30 PM EST

I Still Believe.

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By js in ny on Feb 16, 2004 12:30 PM EST
LOBSTERS:

I believe in the power of mind and spirit.

I know you are truely Howard, but to ignore the power of self fulfiling prophecy is dangerous.

I am truly sorry that i have offended you.

The song the gambler says:

You never count your money when your sitting at the table, the'll be time enough for counting, when the dealings done.

Peace, Love, Power to the People.
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By Ray on Feb 16, 2004 12:30 PM EST
Howard,

Please do not drop out after tomorrow, no matter what happens. It is apparent to me that Kerry is beginning to slip the more people see him. I know I live in MA and have watched his act for years.
I went to my sister's for dinner last night and she said: "We had the debate on but we had to turn it off, I just can't stand listening to Kerry, if he's the nominee I won't vote."
Democratic voters need a choice in the upcoming primaries, it is only the middle of February. Please stay in Howard.
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By mvanvoorhies on Feb 16, 2004 12:30 PM EST

I STILL BELIEVE!!

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By DPS in TN on Feb 16, 2004 12:31 PM EST
OUR GOAL IS WELL IN SIGHT....LAST MAN STANDING WITH KERRY....THEN ON TO BOSTON!!!!

Thanks to the blogger who just reported a Dean speech this morning in WI in which he said
"Good Morning...and NO We're not dropping out of this race!"
I appreciated Roy's addressing the issue on the blog yesterday, but was unsure about what he really was saying....it was a little double-talky to me.
So if Howard is speaking this clearly this morning, what an encouragement!!!

We watched the debate again this morning on CSpan and were so proud of Howard for speaking the truth. The contrast with kerry's long waffling answers was remarkable. He will bore voters to death before Boston!!
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By bkbroiler on Feb 16, 2004 12:31 PM EST
>As for the rest of you wishy-washy, spineless bandwagon jumpers. If the American Revolution was fought >with traitors like you, we'd all be back in merry old England right now sipping tea.

>Posted by JimA at February 16, 2004 12:02 PM

Actually JimA the American revolution was fought by a bunch of spineless rabble. The loyalists and
British were on the organized and honerable side of the conflict. Our country was won through superior numbers and resources. You learn a lot when you get your history from sources other than government spondered text books.

I am a patriot and also a realist.
God bless America and everyone else.
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:31 PM EST

I STILL BELIEVE!!!

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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 12:31 PM EST
We are (still) right. We are Dean supporters. Rock on.

Posted by Eric Davis at February 16, 2004 12:18 PM


Let's time Deanfest for July 26-29. Somewhere up around Burlington, VT might be nice.

I am serious.
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By Gooserock on Feb 16, 2004 12:31 PM EST
"Will Saletin from Slate on NPR's Day to Day just said [....] Dean has created and will be the leader of a significant movement that is not going to go away and that he needs to find a way to morph his candidacy into that movement[....]

I think [...] during this time, he, as the leader of this movement, continues to issue his wise and honest remarks "

bakingbabo at February 16, 2004 12:19 PM

Great--

Meanwhile he/we should develop a plan for a few House/Senate races
for us to support, so that the core group doesn't fall apart then
need to be rebuilt painstakingly later. It would be a huge mistake to
let this human resource get away.

Even without a Nominee Dean we can _continue_ working to take back
our country and our party during THIS election.

And work with minorities since they are often much more of a factor
--and involved--in regional races.
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By Soldier Boy on Feb 16, 2004 12:32 PM EST
I would love for the Gov to say:

Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
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Except for NH, the Zogby polls have been pretty accurate.

These latest polls were taken BEFORE last night's debate, however.

The press is just dying to print the story on DFA's obituary.

Get on the phone. The momentum is shifting. Don't wait for someone else to act. Every vote is critical.

As my buddy Ross Perot use to say, "If not me, who? If not now, when?" (In his Texas drawl)
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By anamericanabroad on Feb 16, 2004 12:32 PM EST
Marc Chadwick:

Prof. George Lakoff. on WDFA said that you should repeat your message over and over again until it sinks in so here goes:

While we are unearthing traitors I'd like to put Kos of daily Kos at the top of the list. He is working directly for the DNC like Grossman. 80% of Kos's bloggers are Dean supporters. He is now pimping Dean supporters to the Democratic Senators who are trying to tap into Dean's funding base, which is fine. But, they are only going to him because they want to bypass Dean and BFA.

DFA needs to upgraded the blog. Dean supporters are only using dKos because of the functionalities.

In accordance to Prof. George Lakoff. here is my attempt at "framing" the blog issue.

::::Why would you plug your telephone into your neighbors house?::::

This is to be taken as an illsion. Imagine that your house is so unorganised that you plug your telephone into your neighbors house.

This situation may work temporarily but in the long run you will realised tht you are at the mercy of your neighbor.

This is the situation we are in with Daily Kos.
Kos complete access to the majority of Dean supporters online, just because his blog is technically superior.

If we are going to morph this movement into something more long term WE NEED TO CAT NOW. I am begging you to update the blog to bring back all those wonderful Dean posters at dKos. I have noticed that those who have given up on Kos negativity leave but do not come back to BFA.

We need to have all of our ducks in a row no matter which way this race goes.

If you have any doubts of what I am talking about check out this story on dKos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/2/16/164749/234

Kos's intention is to usurp BFA (which he has already has done a pretty good job) so that he can become the organisational hub for activists wanting to help out Democrats.

But, what he is not making clear is that Kos has become a cog in the DNC machinery. He obeys orders immpecably, you should read his comments "People just hate Dean"..."Kerry's intern story is BS".

He can do what he wants but I think that if we really want to make this movement into an organisation then we need to get back the Dean supporters from Daily Kos.

Kos is correct in the way he hs organised his blog. It leads to more substantial dialogue. I have a big problem with the way he insults Dean on one hand then pimps Dean's supporters to the DNC with the other...it is a bit tasteless.

I am sure that this will upset many folks, but:

KOS IS ANOTHER GROSSMAN WAITING TO HAPPEN!!!
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By Lobsters in AR on Feb 16, 2004 12:32 PM EST

no problem js. You just need to remember that all areas are open to discussion here. A simple question was asked and that was it. No need to read more into it than there was.

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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:32 PM EST

I STILL BELIEVE!!!

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By mvanvoorhies on Feb 16, 2004 12:32 PM EST
Kerry will LOSE MA!! I've got 10 confirmed Dean votes in MA and I'll be canvassing for more!!

Howard - please stay in this race!!!!
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By chris in maine on Feb 16, 2004 12:32 PM EST
Dean SUPPORTERS the TIME IS NOW!!!

We need to flood the De3an HQ with calls and emails and demand that DEAN stays in this race as a full candidate- we will not accept suspending nor quitting! DEMAND A NEW BAT NOW!

POlls in Wisconsin show a surge for us- hit hte cmapuses very hard, organize rides for these college students. MAKE as many calls as oyu can.

WE Need on tv tonight, a Dean media Surge, use BRAUNN, REP LEE both are inspriring and motivating!!
PUT BRAUNN and LEE on paid staff now that Grossman the traitior aND KErry insider is out!!!

GIVE us a bat to fight back, lets raise some cash!
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By Dean is back on Feb 16, 2004 12:33 PM EST

E Sol D: buzz off! Go back to your Botox Blog! If Cash&Kerry wins the nomination, the democrats are doomed. Bush will win in every single state!

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By Mainefem1 on Feb 16, 2004 12:33 PM EST
Re: Maine update.

Scroll previous thread.

Essentials of life:

Coffee, cable broadband modem, duct tape, and WD-40!
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:33 PM EST

I STILL BELIEVE!!!

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By barb in albq on Feb 16, 2004 12:34 PM EST
PUT UP A BAT FOR LOYALTY AND COURAGE!

STAY IN THE RACE SO THAT OUR MESSAGE CAN CONTINUE.

IT IS INEVITABLE THAT KERRY WILL FLOUNDER.

WE CAN BE THERE WHEN HE DOES!

PUT UP A BAT FOR LOYALTY AND COURAGE!
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By markinnj on Feb 16, 2004 12:34 PM EST

What I want To know is--why isn't the media asking Edwards why he isn't shutting down, why are they always asking Dean only- but then I don't really have to ask do I?

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By chuck4thegooddoctor on Feb 16, 2004 12:34 PM EST
Recapping for Wisconsin voters:

DEAN: Honest. Will be upfront even when it's not politically popular. 89% of his money is from regular people like you and me giving an everage of $77 per person, 600,000 of us. Has given detailed plans for how he'll get America's economy moving again.

EDWARDS: Was the son of a millworker. Other than that, what is his plan?

SHARPTON: Entertaining, but not a president.

KUCINICH: Good ideas, but not moderate enough for most voters.

KERRY: His campaign is backed by criminals (like "Bob" Majumder):

http://www.nctimes.net/news/2002/20020731/54549.html

Or in cohoots with people like, oh, say, Ken Lay of Enron:

http://www.nonprofitwatch.org/heinz/extended.html

Or maybe you'd like to see evidence of Robert "Torch" Torricelli, himself "ethically challenged after taking campaign money and gifts for political favors for a now-convicted felon, working hard with your donation money to get ads on the air using Osama Bin Laden criticizing a fellow Democrat, and who is now actively raising money for John Kerry's campaign:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apwashington_story.asp?category=1155&slug=Kerry%20Torricelli

Or maybe you'd like to see the latest on the allegations of John Kerry and a former intern?

http://www.nationaudio.com/News/DailyNation/Today/News/mainNews1602200453.html
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:34 PM EST

I STILL BELIEVE!!!

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By shockra on Feb 16, 2004 12:35 PM EST
Many of you probably do this already, but if you need some confidence when calling people keep a stack of different flyers on Dean's record next to the phone, so you can answer any questions quickly and specifically.

And it helps your focus to be able to run your eyes over a list of facts as you're listening. If you're a doodler you can also draw around the points as you mention them.

Having a flyer with a Dean photo in front of you isn't so bad either. :)
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By AC in MA on Feb 16, 2004 12:35 PM EST
kate_in_montclair,

How about all Dean supporters world-wide meet at the Boston Commons on the day of the Convention.

I think that would send a strong message. :0)
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By jc on Feb 16, 2004 12:35 PM EST

Instead of flooding HQ with email, how about flooding the contribution link with dollars! $$$ will send the message, loud and clear. Wouldn't you rather use up the Staff's time processing money instead of reading email?

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By barb in albq on Feb 16, 2004 12:35 PM EST
PUT UP A BAT FOR LOYALTY AND COURAGE!

STAY IN THE RACE SO THAT OUR MESSAGE CAN CONTINUE.

IT IS INEVITABLE THAT KERRY WILL FLOUNDER.

WE CAN BE THERE WHEN HE DOES!

PUT UP A BAT FOR LOYALTY AND COURAGE!
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By Gooserock on Feb 16, 2004 12:35 PM EST
"Kos's intention is to usurp BFA (which he has already has done a pretty good job) so that he can become the organisational hub for activists wanting to help out Democrats. "

KOS IS ANOTHER GROSSMAN WAITING TO HAPPEN!!!

anamericanabroad at February 16, 2004 12:32 PM

Ah, so somebody is thinking along my lines of taking back the party.

Just not us, or for us.
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By Lobsters in AR on Feb 16, 2004 12:35 PM EST
bk broiler.......I thought Mel Gibson won the Revolutionary War for us??

LOL!
j/k.
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By Roo in SC on Feb 16, 2004 12:36 PM EST
Thanks so much to the IT team! Isaw them at work while we had our Meet-up on February 4th the day after the SC primaries..they were on their way to Wisconsin. Having lived in Wisconsin I could not see it as Custer's Last Stand...I hope it won't be. I trust we will hang on, because I love roller coaster rides and it ain't over till the fat lady sings. Being a pragmatist like Dean, there may be a time to fold our cards and find other ways of changing American politics for all the blog patriots...I feel queasy about Utah..and maybe Idaho and Hawaii...but don't know much about the ground forces there...I felt bad about Virginia and Oklahoma too, but I a new Neel needed more time to assess and plan. I'm up for March 2nd though even without advertising and only the grassroots. Please give Florida and California a chance to show their depth...California has never been a follower...and Florida deserves to mark their ballot and have it counted.
A huge thanks to all those on the ground in Wisconsin...you are doing a great great job. I'm so proud of you. Although I have lots of degrees that should let me see things as the good Doctor does on facts...my intuition is far better..When he walks in the room you can feel the presence of greatness...good works shown in actions for ordinary people. So let us all "Rest in reason, and move in passion." Our country is too great for less. I feel an alternate reality coming, stay the course!
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By tc on Feb 16, 2004 12:36 PM EST
Please hang in there Dr. Dean! If Edwards can stay in with second and third place finishes, we certainly can. Put up a bat and watch us go.

Governor Dean is the voice of conscience for the Democratic Pary. The more people that hear him between now and July the better. Every time the media dismiss him he should point out that we live in a democracy and everyone should have their vote count.
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By geroonie on Feb 16, 2004 12:36 PM EST
DFA IT staff....THANK YOU for all the great work you do!!

And Governor Dean......stay in there!
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By Hypatia on Feb 16, 2004 12:36 PM EST
This is doable people! It is completely doable.

Bless you www.dialingfordean.com for giving me Jim's phone number. Bless you, Jim ____ in Mount Hope, WI, who just told me that I was the only person who called him to talk about the primaries. Bless you for listening about what I had to say about Howard Dean, bless you for waiting for me to get back to you on *where* to vote, and bless you for saying you'll vote for Howard Dean tomorrow.

Remember, remember, remember...this is about engaging people who don't get engaged...this is about the 50% who don't vote in elections...this is about reaching out, informing and awakening the sleeping giant that is the American electorate.

We can do it...pick up the phone...pick up a pen...let's keep working! One voter at a time....
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 12:37 PM EST
Dean should psyche out the media and hold a major press conference on Wednesday that will be broadcast nationwide.

Everyone will be expecting him to say he is dropping out.

Instead, he uses this national platform and builds up a case to the American people about why he and he alone can beat Bush. He builds up a case for Democrats having buyer's remorse and then at the end of the speech says, and given all these factors, I am NOT dropping out of the race, in spite of the media's efforts to coronate a front-runner. I am NOT giving up the fight to change not only the Republican party but the Democratic party.

Then he should end by saying, we just came from Wisconsin... next we're going to Utah, Hawaii,... and then we're going to Massachusetts, California, etc.

That will be a strong message that the newspapers can't help but to report that he is still fighting.
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By Decer on Feb 16, 2004 12:37 PM EST
Just want to throw out a huge thank you to Marc and the whole IT staff. I, myself, am a Systems and Software Engineer and know what it's like in the trenchs and having to put out tech fires all day long. But my experience with the blog and the sites have always been without so much as a delay or error!!!

You guys are incredible and I'm totally grateful for all your hard work!

And, of course, John Kerry and Steve GrossMan suck. :)
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By mvanvoorhies on Feb 16, 2004 12:37 PM EST

I STILL BELIEVE!!!

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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:37 PM EST

I S T I L L B E L I E V E ! ! ! !

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By Mainefem1 on Feb 16, 2004 12:37 PM EST
Re: brokered Beantown convention.

Supplies:

Dean delegates & hoarded DFA database.

Iced tea (for dumping into the harbor).

That's power.
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By barb in albq on Feb 16, 2004 12:37 PM EST
Kos seems interested primarily in making a name for himself. It should be remembered that he got his increase in visitors directly from this blog. The numbers of his visitors that he got on his own are much smaller.

Kos will be toast as time goes on. If you want a blog with incisive political commentary, there are many others much better. Just wait to see what will come out of this campaign regardless of what happens, just for one thing.

Kos is a pretender.
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By mvanvoorhies on Feb 16, 2004 12:38 PM EST
And no - I'm not 'nyc fireman', just following his lead.

I STILL BELIEVE!!!
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By barb in albq on Feb 16, 2004 12:39 PM EST

GREAT IDEAS at bgyrl at February 16, 2004 12:37 PM

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By Noreen4Dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:40 PM EST
An open letter to Howard Dean:

Please stay in this race, whatever it takes. Even if you don't campaign in every state, stay in until the convention. This is why. After seeing you in the debate last night, I was struck by how you are STILL framing this entire race even as the media speculates about your demise. Without you all we'll hear about is Vietnam and intern problems.

I saw you speak in Tucson and heard you say again and again this campaign is about US, ordinary Americans. I am one of those. My husband and I both work and have two kids. We struggle with health insurance and had to pull our 2nd grader out of his school BECAUSE of No Child Left Behind. We paid more in taxes this year than in years before (and made less money).

You have to stay in this because you are the only candidate speaking about these issues and have actually acted in your state to help families such as mine. You speak for so many of us, please don't be silenced.

PS I still have hope you will win the nomination and still have all my Dean stuff everywhere.

To HQ: Put up a Steve Grossman bat and let's get on with this thing!
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By rwilson4dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:40 PM EST
Hey Marc,

Can you take that roll of duct tape over to Steve Grossman's cube, tape his mouth shut and his hands and feet together, stuff him in a box, and send him low priority over to the Kerry campaign?
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By tc on Feb 16, 2004 12:40 PM EST

Where are Senator Harkin and Al Gore and Carol Braun? Why aren't they in Wisconsin??

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By Jim Schre on Feb 16, 2004 12:40 PM EST
Good luck in Wisconsin, my old home state. I know there are a lot of real democrats out there. Don't be discouraged if we don't win. We can not win, and still make a difference.

Don't give up after Wisconsin either. Let's keep going and give voters throught the country a chance to show not just that they are against Bush, but that they are for real reform of our government.
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:40 PM EST

I S T I L L B E L I E V E ! ! ! ! !

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By dujo from NY on Feb 16, 2004 12:40 PM EST

DON’T RUBBER STAMP DNC AND WASHINGTON’S

CORPORATE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE JOHN KERRY!



CNN and the corporate media want John Kerry to be President. Fox News already has George W. Bush and wants to keep him as President. But, we the people, have Howard Dean. I am one Dean supporter who will NOT vote for Kerry in November. If Dean supports Kerry, and all Dean’s supporters give their support to Kerry in November, then this movement will become nothing more than a footnote in history.



Let me tell you why I cannot support Kerry and the DNC. As you are well aware, the McCain and Fiengold campaign finance bill was very specific that any candidate’s commercial must have the approval of that candidate. However, in Iowa, they invented a third party smear campaign against Dean; secretly supported by the DNC, Dick Gephart, John Kerry, and the sleaze bag John Torracelli. More importantly, the primaries were set up to be front-loaded, meaning you don’t give the candidate who’s behind enough time to catch up. The DNC consensus and the Washington insiders used this strategy to make sure Dean could win the Iowa caucuses. That’s why they poured all this money into the negative ads against Dean.



I want to say to all Democrats, if John Kerry is a nominee, he cannot beat Bush. He will have to be Houdini to explain his voting records. He is the only Senator that I know of who votes yes to a bill, and when that bill becomes a bad bill, he claims he voted yes, but I meant no. And visa versa he says he meant to vote yes when the bill turns out to be a good one.



Please, don’t rubber stamp!



From:

Dujo from Astoria, NY

Dujo58@yahoo.com

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By shockra on Feb 16, 2004 12:41 PM EST
Letter from a Vermonter

Jack Bryar, a resident of Vermont, has this to say about Howard Dean...

A friend and a would-be Dean critic suggests:
"The fact of the matter is that many of you if you lived in Vermont may have found many occasions to speak out against his [Dean's] policies."

This is true. It is just as true that most of those same folks are passionately backing Dean as the next president of this country, including me. Why is that?

As a resident of VT, I have spoken out against Dean on lots of occasions. It's the guy's style. What you see is what you get, and if he thinks you're being impractical he'll tell you so, and if there's a reporter around he'll still tell you so. Why on earth would I (and most Vermonters) think a guy like that would make a good president? Because I've seen Howard when the chips were down.

Believe it or not Vermont has a large evangelical community. And it has a lot of old-money types hiding out in the hills of a few gold towns where the average income exceeded $200,000 a year (disclosure: I live in one of them). When the legislature was forced by the Supreme Court to fund the state's schools, taxes in these "gold" towns went up 300%. You have no idea as to the backlash among the richest and most powerful people in the state. We had the head of the Freeman Foundation (who underwrites WGBY), the heads of the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations, hollering for the scalp of anyone with a "D" next to his name. Threats of lawsuits were flying everywhere and political action committees were formed in every town with money. Dean talked them out of major lawsuits and impressed so many of the people in those towns that the majority of them voted for him in the following election.

Likewise, when the Civil Unions thing broke you would have thought we lived in Alabama. The uproar was incredible. Dean had his life threatened. He would walk into crowds that were screaming, throwing things. In both cases he talked people down- stayed for hours, taking on all comers-- and he succeeded because people believed him. They knew he wouldn't lie to them, that he'd tell it to them straight. I do not know of a single politician who would have done what he did. Dean could pull this off because he's the guy you see on TV today -- brusque, impatient, truth telling to the point of being abrasive about it -- but when the chips were down, those characteristics meant that people believed him. I can't see any other politician running for president who could have pulled that off-- or who would have wanted to try.

There was no fudging - no attempt to run against the legislature or the judiciary- no "triangulation" just more straight talk. No John Kerryesque/Bill Clintonesque dodge and weave. No being for something, then against it, then for it depending on which way the wind was blowing. Call Dean's style what you want, but "leadership" is a pretty good term for it.
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By fran on Feb 16, 2004 12:41 PM EST
OT but this is from the Center for American Progress:

SAYING AN AMPUTEE VET 'DIDN'T GIVE LIMBS FOR HIS COUNTRY': Coulter wrote, "Cleland didn't give his limbs for his country or leave them on the battlefield" because she says he lost his limbs in a "routine, noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with his friends." But as the 8/1/99 Esquire Magazine notes, Cleland lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam when a grenade accidentally detonated after he and another soldier jumped off a helicopter in a combat zone.

SAYING A SILVER STAR WINNER IS NOT A "WAR HERO": Coulter said people "should stop allowing [Cleland to be] portrayed as a war hero" – despite the fact that, in a separate incident four days before he lost three limbs, Cleland won a Silver Star - one of the highest honors for combat courage the U.S. military gives out. The congressional citation which came with the medal specifically said that during a "heavy enemy rocket and mortar attack Captain Cleland, disregarding his own safety, exposed himself to the rocket barrage as he left his covered position to administer first aid to his wounded comrades. He then assisted in moving the injured personnel to covered positions." The citation concluded, "Cleland's gallant action is in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit and the United States Army."

SAYING CLELAND WAS "LUCKY" TO HAVE LIMBS BLOWN OFF: Coulter said, "Luckily for Cleland…he happened to [lose his limbs] while in Vietnam" and said that had he been injured "at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. Senator." Of course, Cleland probably would not have been dealing with live grenades and enemy fire in the save haven of Ft. Dix. But, then, many top conservatives might not know this because they do not have firsthand knowledge of a combat zone. President Bush did not go to Vietnam because he was in the Texas National Guard. Vice President Dick Cheney did not serve in the military, saying, "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." According to the Houston Press in 1999, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) "tried to blame minorities for his lack of military experience" saying, "so many minority youths had volunteered for the well-paying military positions to escape poverty and the ghetto that there was literally no room for patriotic folks" like him. And Rush Limbaugh avoided service by apparently claiming his "anal cysts" prevented him from defending the nation. See more conservatives who attack veterans while avoiding military service themselves.

This Coulter woman is poison! That she is even allowed to say such things is a crime but this is what most people hear and believe. I'd like to urge all of you to join me and write a letter to your local newspaper and cite this and refute it.

Can you imagine what would happen if a liberal said this about a Republican vet?

Please try to get the word out that this woman doesn't know what she's talking about.
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By Jim Schre on Feb 16, 2004 12:42 PM EST

p.s. Right on Rwilson. What can Grossman be thinking? Afraid to disenfranchise the power elite in the democratic party?

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By Maureen in CA on Feb 16, 2004 12:42 PM EST
Howard Ducts!

LOL
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By blog2win on Feb 16, 2004 12:43 PM EST

DFA IT crew rocks! Thank you for your behind-the-scene efforts. The infrastructure runs like a well-oiled-engine.

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By Maria in NYC on Feb 16, 2004 12:43 PM EST
Howard Dean, in a really, half an hour ago: "Thank you for coming...and NO, WE ARE NOT GONNA DROPP OUT".

Please, keep walking
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By TeaTimeTim on Feb 16, 2004 12:43 PM EST
A couple thoughts:

1. Why re we so excited about Dean being 23 points behind Kerry in the Zogby poll after the undecided votes have been allocated. This is the state we chose for our last stand? Am I missing something?

2. I think hiring Braun is a good idea since we already had to pay her a bunch money in consulting fees for her endorsement, maybe she would work for a discount saving us money for ads. I am a little concerned though since she lost her relection campaign in illinois due to fraud related issue.

3. When are we going to win? Our negatives are so high, how do we pick up more votes beyond our liberal base?


Posted by E Sol D at February 16, 2004 12:12 PM

Since you are already against us. You are not we.. Go troll the edwards camp.
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By Mia on Feb 16, 2004 12:44 PM EST
Americanabroad, could you be more specific about what needs to be done to get Dean supporters back from Daily Kos? I followed your main point but couldn't see what needs to be done. Could you make a list? Thanks!

He can do what he wants but I think that if we really want to make this movement into an organisation then we need to get back the Dean supporters from Daily Kos.

Kos is correct in the way he hs organised his blog. It leads to more substantial dialogue. I have a big problem with the way he insults Dean on one hand then pimps Dean's supporters to the DNC with the other...it is a bit tasteless.

I am sure that this will upset many folks, but:

KOS IS ANOTHER GROSSMAN WAITING TO HAPPEN!!!

Posted by anamericanabroad at February 16, 2004 12:32 PM
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:44 PM EST
I S T I L L B E L I E V E ! ! ! ! !



thank you mvanvoorhies!!!!
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By Charles in Montana on Feb 16, 2004 12:44 PM EST

I HAVE ALWATS BELIEVED

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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 12:46 PM EST
How about all Dean supporters world-wide meet at the Boston Commons on the day of the Convention.

I think that would send a strong message. :0)

Posted by AC in MA at February 16, 2004 12:35 PM


Even better. That's what a grassroots movement will do for you -- creative collaboration. Be there or be square.
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:46 PM EST
I S T I L L B E L I E V E ! ! ! ! ! ! !



thank you Charles in Montana!!!!
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By manraydreams on Feb 16, 2004 12:46 PM EST
Re: bgyrl at February 16, 2004 12:37 PM

GREAT IDEA!

Sorry to shout....
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By tc on Feb 16, 2004 12:46 PM EST
YES! A Steve Grossman bat! I suspect, though, that the Governor would think that not quite classy...

What would be a good surrogate "name" for the bat?
A tell the media bat?
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By anamericanabroad on Feb 16, 2004 12:47 PM EST
Gooserock:

Kos can do what he wants but I have a problem with him doing it at the expense of Dean.

Grossman wants a Democratic President but he went about it at the expense of Dean.

I my book these people are personas non grata.
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By dean_dAZe on Feb 16, 2004 12:47 PM EST
Yay! Thanks for posting the Zogby numbers. We're even ahead of Edwards! A much better start to my day than the crap headline I saw in my local newspaper: "Debate Strengthens Kerry's No. 1 Position."

Maybe the letters and DVDs I sent to WI helped a little! I would like to think so.
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By samia on Feb 16, 2004 12:48 PM EST
THANK YOU IT TEAM!

You folks are the invisible glue - not just the duct tape - that keeps us all connected.

I am pitching in for YOU today - the unsung heroes.
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By kennyo in Florida on Feb 16, 2004 12:48 PM EST
THE MEDIA ARE ALL OVER US THIS AM AND NOW PM.. Are they afraid???

We are going to stick with Howard Dean and our DFA, no matter what the media is reporting!
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By Mary from Montco PA on Feb 16, 2004 12:49 PM EST
THANK YOU, MARC CHADWICK!!!!

And all you other IT support people, too! We would be next to nothing without you. You have duct-taped our lifelines of community to each other, umbilical cords of emotional and political sustenance.

There aren't words enough to describe how important your work is to each and every one of us, and to the survival of America as we know it. Really!

From the bottom of my heart, THANKS!
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By irmaly on Feb 16, 2004 12:49 PM EST
bgyrl at February 16, 2004 12:37 PM

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!!!!
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By MWinters on Feb 16, 2004 12:49 PM EST
Push the Intern Story and contact ABC!

If Dean is to have a chance, then, obviously, Kerry must fall. We need to get out the intern story. I have read that ABC has already interviewed Alex Polier and are sitting on it until Kerry wins the Primary.

We need to contact ABC to encourage them to air this interview if they have it. I posted the following on the ABC political blog:


"If ABC has interviewed Alex Polier, the young girl who John F. Kerry has allegedly had an adulterous affair with, then sitting on such an interview until the Democratic Primary contest is truly over is absolutely shameful and unforgivable! Release it if you have it and be the journalists you are purporting to be!

Hoping you ABC does the right thing."

If anyone has a phone # to ABC News, we should call and add to the pressure.
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By samia on Feb 16, 2004 12:49 PM EST

Kos is a Grossman that has already happened.

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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:49 PM EST

I S T I L L B E L I E V E ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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By rwilson4dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:49 PM EST
bgyrl:

Good Idear, but I suspect that the networks will cut away from him before he completes his first sentence. They did that to almost all of the candidates last Tuesday night. They cut away from Clark when it looked like he wasn't going to concede, so they'll do the same to Gov. Howard Dean, M.D.
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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 12:50 PM EST
I second Bgyrl's great idea. National press conference Wednesday.

Boston Commons anticonvention July 26-29.
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By Decer on Feb 16, 2004 12:50 PM EST

What's this about Bush and a woman and an abortion??

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By jc on Feb 16, 2004 12:50 PM EST

Duct Tape has always been one of my favorite "tools" - great job, IT!

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By Ray on Feb 16, 2004 12:50 PM EST
E Sol D,

Get out of here, I am sick of your shi*. You are not and never were a supporter.
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By chuck4thegooddoctor on Feb 16, 2004 12:51 PM EST

I think the powers-that-be in the Kerry camp are still scared to death of us. That's good.

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By kc on Feb 16, 2004 12:51 PM EST
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ARE YOU A TRUE DEANIAC? A PROUD MEMBER OF THE DEAN TEAM? IF SO, READ :
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THOUSAND S OF UNDECIDED WISCONSIN VOTERS HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED BY ANYONE YET.

Please help us call them. Spend a couple of minutes telling them about Dr. Dean and they'll join us! I know this for a fact because I've been doing it for the past 3 days, and I've converted the majority of the ones I've spoken to.

Most of them react happily, and feel 'special', because we thought enough to personally contact them.

Undecideds are easy to convince. They're not committed to any candidate, and THEY WANT TO BE CONVINCED!

Please take a break from Blogging, and help us out right now. Today is it! Tomorrow is the vote! We need all true Deaniacs to do their part right now. Click on 'Phonebank' to get your phonenumbers, or email ben@dialingfordean.com.

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By jc on Feb 16, 2004 12:53 PM EST

I trust Howard Dean.

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By Renee in Ohio on Feb 16, 2004 12:53 PM EST
"YES! A Steve Grossman bat! I suspect, though, that the Governor would think that not quite classy...

What would be a good surrogate "name" for the bat?
A tell the media bat?"

Thinking of the carnival game "Whack-a-Mole".
How about "Whack-a-Weasel"?
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By rwilson4dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:53 PM EST
That is good to see about the poll numbers. Still a lot of ground to cover before tomorrow, but considering Dean was in the Single digits a few weeks ago....WOW!

I STILL BELIEVE...in Pres. Howard Dean, M.D.

and I still believe that Steve Grossman needs to be shown the door, because his comments only hurt the Gov's momentum.
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By kennyo in Florida on Feb 16, 2004 12:53 PM EST
THIS IS THE ALAMO! THIS IS OUR (next) TO LAST STAND!
HOWARD DEAN FOR PRESIDENT 2005****
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By Ithacamom on Feb 16, 2004 12:54 PM EST
AGGH, just had my thoughtful, carefully crafted post eating by the blog.

The jist of it was regarding DailyKos.

Remember folks, he's just a pundit. On a different medium, but full of himself just the same.
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By Gooserock on Feb 16, 2004 12:55 PM EST
"Gooserock:

Kos can do what he wants but I have a problem with him doing it at the expense of Dean."

anamericanabroad at February 16, 2004 12:47 PM

I'm with you!!

I'm _very_ disappointed at the prospect that the broader work to activate
Democrats might not happen here, I don't want it to be led by forces that in the end are little more than
slightly-more-compassionate conservatives.

That for certain would be my one-way ticket to Vancouver Island.
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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 12:57 PM EST

I S T I L L B E L I E V E !!!!!!!!

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By rwilson4dean on Feb 16, 2004 12:57 PM EST

OH and don't bother opening the door for Grossman, just throw him head first into it.

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By Charles in Montana on Feb 16, 2004 12:58 PM EST
Way to go Ray, put a little whoop a$$ on that troll.
Dean all the way.
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By Ray on Feb 16, 2004 12:58 PM EST

When it comes to MA, just with people in my family Howard has 7 votes.

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By KEVIN SCHMIDT STERLING VA on Feb 16, 2004 12:58 PM EST
HOW TO WIN IN WISCONSIN TOMORROW!!!

The national media is keeping quiet about the Kerrying on Scandal because they contribute heavily to his campaign.

THERE STILL IS NO PROOF THAT BUSH WAS AWOL, YET THEY TALK ABOUT THAT SITUATION ON TV. SO, THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE MEDIA NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE KERRY SCANDAL. THIS IS ESPECIALLY THE CASE SINCE THE WOMAN HE HAD AN AFFAIR WITH, ALEX POLIER, HAS ADMITTED TO IT IN A TAPED INTERVIEW WITH A MAJOR TV NETWORK!

EVERYONE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CALL OR EMAIL ABC (818) 460-7477, CBS 212-975-4114, NBC 212-664-4444, CNN (404) 827-1700 AND FOX (212) 575-4670. DEMAND THAT THEY START TALKING ABOUT THE KERRY SCANDAL TODAY!

TAKE THE MEDIA BACK TODAY SO WE CAN TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK TOMORROW!
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By kjaba on Feb 16, 2004 12:58 PM EST
As the days pass it may become more apparent that the major issue before the American people in this election is the question of trust and confidence in the leader of our country. It could, in fact, become a pivotal issue.

George Bush’s outright lies, misleading statements, and general deceitfulness are causing increasing numbers of people to feel, at the least, uneasy about giving him four more years, and this fact is beginning to be reflected in his declining poll numbers.

Howard Dean’s forthrightness, candor, and obvious strength of character stand in stark contrast to Bush’s failings, and this great gulf between the two is seen by many to be widening each day.

Time is on our side. No matter the outcome in Wisconsin tomorrow, it is imperative for the good of the country that Dr. Dean soldier on for as long as possible. The people in most of the country who have supported Dr. Dean should be given the opportunity — deserve the opportunity — to vote for him. Meanwhile we too must soldier on as the nation continues to realize the great moral difference between the cowboy from Texas and the doctor from Vermont. Now is not the time to quit.

Elect ability.
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By VyseTheLegend on Feb 16, 2004 12:59 PM EST

Polls are showing us gaining 10+ points Kerry in Wisconsin and passing John Edwards, if this intern story broke tonight we'd probably win Wisconsin (or if we had another week or so).

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By Ithacamom on Feb 16, 2004 12:59 PM EST
Re: Alex Polier

The network that is 'sitting' on the tape is probably trying to verify if she's a loon or credible. If she's credible, then she's very very brave, because her life will be turned upside down.

If she's a loon, then we'd better know about it now.

I just think it's awful that this potentially damaging information about the top Democratic candidate has taken this long to come out. We need it dealt with, and then we need to move on.
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By wende in sf on Feb 16, 2004 12:59 PM EST
...how to win Hawai`i...

...can someone please email me the text from HD's book regarding the reinternment of the native bones in NH...

...this is a CRUCIAL issue to all native Hawaiians...no presidential candidate has ever even spoken to this issue...

...the majority of the native Hawaiian population lives outside of Hawai`i...the largest group in in California...second is Nevada...

...i would really appreciate this info from the book as i can pass it along to several hundred Hawaiians...

...please email asap..mahalo nui loa...
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By Theresa in Maine on Feb 16, 2004 1:00 PM EST
MY GOD GUYS

I just read the Reuters story on our campaign chairman Steve Grossman. Talk about kicking one in the teeth when they are down.

What is this guy thinking?

Could someone PLEASE tell me why he did this and has he been fired immediately.
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By VyseTheLegend on Feb 16, 2004 1:00 PM EST

BTW, we shouldn't give up even if we lose... wait until after March 2 and see if Kerry self-destructs over this crud.

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By Unconvinced on Feb 16, 2004 1:00 PM EST
Deaniacs,

Time for a reality check here. I know you'll all consider me a troll or a heckler, but you need to hear some facts.

Blaming the media for all of the campaign's problems is pathetic. Did Dean blame the media early in the campaign when he was their darling, making a habit of placing him on the covers of the newsweeklies and giving him nonstop gushing coverage? The media has just done its job, taking a close, thorough look at the candidate and reporting on what was found. The voters in 16-some contests have made their judgment known. The media didn't pull all those levers in the voting booths. You give the media WAY too much power.

The latest Zogby poll (a Dean surge?) has Kerry up 47% to Dean's 23% and Edwards' 20%. So together, Dean and Edwards voters even if they joined forces, still would not defeat Kerry.

Doctor Dean, Mr. Honesty, must now be honest with himself and the Democratic Party. His party is over. If, as he once said, "the enemy is George W. Bush," he should marshal his forces to a battle where he might actually be able to help land a victory. He ain't gonna win anything else.
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By Lunch Lady on Feb 16, 2004 1:00 PM EST
re: steve grossman bat

Fungo Bat - not really in the game just to swing at pitches?

Vampire Bat - only job is to drain blood?

Corked Bat - on the outside looks right but the core is hollow?

Ding Bat?
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By I hate the DNC on Feb 16, 2004 1:01 PM EST
NAIROBI, Kenya - A woman who has been the subject of rumors linking her to Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) denied Monday that she ever had an affair with the Democratic presidential candidate.


AP Photo



Breaking her silence four days after the allegations surfaced on the Internet, Alexandra Polier issued a statement to The Associated Press, saying, "I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false."


Kerry already has denied reports that he had an extramarital affair. On Monday, his campaign said he would have no further comment.


Polier's statement was released to the AP in Nairobi, where the 27-year-old freelance journalist is visiting the parents of her fiance, Yaron Schwartzman, an Israeli who was raised in Kenya. She previously worked as an editorial assistant for the AP in New York.


"Whoever is spreading these rumors and allegations does not know me," Polier said, appealing to the media to respect her privacy and the privacy of her fiance and his family.


Polier also took issue with reports that referred to her as a former Kerry intern.


"I never interned or worked for John Kerry," she told AP over the phone.


In a separate statement, Polier's parents, Terry and Donna Polier of Malvern, Pa., dismissed the "completely false and unsubstantiated" allegations about their daughter.


"We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family," the statement said. "We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."


The statement did not address purported quotes by Polier's parents in the British tabloid The Sun that were harshly critical of Kerry.


Kerry has won 14 of 16 Democratic primaries and caucuses, and is expected to be the Democratic challenger to President Bush (news - web sites) in November.


Rumors of a relationship between Kerry and Polier first appeared Thursday on the Internet and were picked up by newspapers in several countries outside the United States. Few U.S. publications printed her name, however.


Asked Friday about the reports, Kerry told reporters: "I just deny it categorically. It's rumor. It's untrue. And that's the last time I intend" to respond to questions about it.


Regarding her silence until now, Polier said, "Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them."


By Monday, reporters and photographers were camped outside the Schwartzmans' Nairobi home, and at one point pursued the car of Yaron's mother, Hannah Schwartzman, as she left the walled compound.


Polier and Yaron Schwartzman met at Columbia University. They arrived in Kenya last October.


Polier graduated from Clark University in Worcester, Mass., in 1999. She received her master's in journalism from Columbia in 2003.
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By vj loves jy mpls on Feb 16, 2004 1:02 PM EST
This site offers a way to respond to the Media-ocracy.

http://www.stopmediapoliticalbias.com/index.html

We must oragnize and act en masse. Tirelessly.
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By Ray on Feb 16, 2004 1:02 PM EST

Thanks Charles in Montana, Happy President's Day from frigid MA.

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By metta in ohio on Feb 16, 2004 1:02 PM EST
I STILL BELIEVE IN HOWARD DEAN AND IN NYC FIREMEN!

AND IN ALL OF US!
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By Theresa in Maine on Feb 16, 2004 1:02 PM EST
Dear friends:

On the last thread I asked if we'd be willing to combine our efforts with Senator Edwards in order to derail Kerry. (I'm not even certain if that would work)

However, I want you all to know that I back Dean for president with all my heart.
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By fran on Feb 16, 2004 1:02 PM EST
As tempting as it is to do so and as annoying as the reports of Dean's demise may be savaging the other candidates helps ONE person - BUSH.

I really don't want to see Kerry as our candidate (I'd rather see Edwards) but if it comes to that we are going to have to make the decision a lot of Greens had to make in 2000. We support the Democratic candidate or we go with a 3rd party candidate or we don't vote. All but one of those will almost surely put Bush in the WH for at least four more years.

Yes, I did say "at least". Personally, I believe Bush will try to get in for life and at the very least get a member of his family in in 2008. By that time he may be able to.

So if you don't want to support Bush or eat crow later should Dean lose then just try to control your dislike for the other Democratic candidates.

A Republican I work with said the other day "Oh, the Democrats can't win anything, They're too divided." Attacks on the other candidates only strengthens the Republicans.
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By rwilson4dean on Feb 16, 2004 1:03 PM EST
As much as I would like Dean to surge to the top, the Intern story is not the way do it.

Hoping for it to break on just one person's version of the story, is not responsible journalism, but rather Coulter's brand of journalism.

The story's not relevant, period. It's nothing more than Character assasination and I think this race has had enough of it. Dean's character was dragged thru the mud, and we don't need to wish the same ill-fate on another candidate. If we do, then we deserve what we got.
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By Steve Baran on Feb 16, 2004 1:03 PM EST

We are involved in the best political campaign this country has seen in a very long time - for all of the right reasons. The longer we continue this campaign the more we will attract/inspire others like us. What we and Dean are building is being tested and honed. What will evolve will only be better than it is now - democracy.

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By Jim Schre on Feb 16, 2004 1:03 PM EST

How is the campaign doing for money? I pledge to donate another $100 if Gov. Dean does not drop out after Wisconsin. Let's keep this campaign going. In his speech after Wisconsin I think Gov. Dean should make it very clear that he is going to continue campaigning for the rest of the primary season, or until he runs out of financial support. Then he has to make a pitch for small contributors to show they want to keep the campaign alive. When I hear that message, my visa card will be out and my $100 donation will be on its way.

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By santa_cruz_marco on Feb 16, 2004 1:03 PM EST
Renee in Milw
yes, and one of the Sentinel, Craig Gilbert, was on the debate panel last night and was totally Edwards biased.

And today on C-SPAN, he dissed the Gov over and over again.

I e-mailed him on it today. the address is in this thread near the top...
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By lindab on Feb 16, 2004 1:03 PM EST
Hey guys -

Turn off cnn, abc, msnbc,cbs, nbc, we can get our news HERE!
let's get out and work our tails off for dean.
everytime they slam us, we work harder and then it makes the media madder.
have not had the tv on all day and I turn on the noon news on cnn and carol costello, the smiling blithering idiot looks like she has gas when she talks about dean - can't believe he is still here!! well, carol, we are and you are an idiot!!
film at eleven!!
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By Ray on Feb 16, 2004 1:04 PM EST
Unconvinced,

Please go back to Kerry's blog. I am convinced you are an a-hole.
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By Joan in Florida on Feb 16, 2004 1:04 PM EST
HQ Anybody home there? Makes me wonder. Same old blah-blah on the blog like everything is quiet and copecetic how here in threadville.

How can we write letters to editors when we don't even know if Dean will stay in the race until it gets to where these editor's newspapers are?

We need something more on the blog except more blah-blah. It seems we have been relegated to be the last-to-know spouse position. Embarrassing and puzzling!

Gov. Dean will do what he has to do, with or without us, but we deserve to be the first to know and not have to hear that too from cable news. I don't watch those channels much so I guess my friends may be calling me with some bad news.

And, NO, governor, my family of 14 will NOT be voting for John Kerry unless you are on the ticket with him.
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By chelle on Feb 16, 2004 1:05 PM EST

I have ALWAYS believed, and I STILL believe!!!

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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 1:05 PM EST
A major reason Dean will stay in for March 2 is he knows he owes Vermont a chance to vote for him on that day. At least the history books won't record that Dean never one a primary in 2004.

We also get a chance to tell all the wishee washee Democrats who voted for a man like Kerry, the worst of all the candidates running, that they did so because the media told them to do it.
They know in their hearts they are guilty of the worse political sin, voting against their own principals.

Vermont is important. It was the state that launched a candidate that changed the way America thinks about politics. It was the state that launched the Dean campaign. Dean will stay in it for that reason alone.
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By Miles in WesternWA on Feb 16, 2004 1:06 PM EST

RE: A Sense of Betrayal



"I had no idea even that a certain Steven Grossman was the chairman of Dean campaign. I was familiar with the names Trippi and Neel.

Ever since the results in Iowa I have had a sinking feeling in my stomach and a perception Gov. Dean was not being well served by the "top tier" of his advisers. It has been bugging me..."



[Posted by ceci at February 16, 2004 12:06 PM]

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Ceci,



You and several thousand other Deaniacs I'm sure. The funny thing is that when we expressed nagging doubts before Iowa, some of us were dismissed with:



"Troll!"



or stuff like



"Get a grip! TRUST Dr. Dean," or "Have faith in Dr. Dean," etc.



Well, now the cat's out of the bag. It's clear that Dr. Dean has surrounded himself with people of questionable loyalty and ability. It's not clear at all that he HAD to have these people on board. Why did he pick them?



Some of us have questioned all along the viability of trying to orchestrate what I call a "bourgeois revolution." We could see that nobody was taking seriously the working-class or populist potential of the Dean campaign. Sure, there was lots of rhetoric about it on the blog postings, but no sustained, visible outreach.



Can somebody tell me if Dr. Dean's ever had a campaign stop at a trailer park somewhere? He might have, but maybe I just haven't heard about it.



Great Trivia Question: How Many Trailer Parks has Dr. Dean Visited So Far? ;-)







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By Charles in Montana on Feb 16, 2004 1:06 PM EST

Unconvinced, If you are asking for a surrender, the answer is "NUTS".

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By Renee in Milw on Feb 16, 2004 1:07 PM EST
We NEED to focus on the possiblity that Kerry is done...he is damaged and in two weeks, his candidacy could be over. Dean knows this and will do better than expected in WI and take it to the next states, but Edwards is now a huge threat.

This leaves a Dean-Edwards race. How are we going to win this battle?

People are seeing the real Kerry. They are looking for an alternative. We have to make Dean the only choice left who can win the race.
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By I hate the DNC on Feb 16, 2004 1:08 PM EST
Steve,
Can we just one primary one day please!!!!!
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By I hate the DNC on Feb 16, 2004 1:09 PM EST
Steve,
Can we just win one primary one day please!!!!!!!
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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 1:09 PM EST
Dean will also stay in it because he knows on March 2, Vermont will give him a higher percentage of the vote than Masschusetts will give Kerry. And that will make all of us feel better. There are many Democrats in MA who know the real Kerry and can't stand him.

Won't that be a kick.
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By lindab on Feb 16, 2004 1:09 PM EST
Just saw the tape from the after debate rally!!
I almost died laughing at the end when he started to run off the names of states and then started laughing.
Take that you media hobos!! Put that on tv over 900 times!!
We are going to Boston.
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By Meta on Feb 16, 2004 1:09 PM EST

What is the number to call HQ?

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By Neal in south Ga on Feb 16, 2004 1:10 PM EST
Howard Dean has been accused of being angry, but I'm not angry

I'm not one of the 1,000 + parents that lost a son or daughter in Iraq.

I'm not one of the 2 million people who lost their job.

I didn't lose my retirement in the stock market.

I have health insurance.

I'm 50 years old, I won't have to pay off the national debt.

I don't care if one person owns all the media, I never watch it anyway. (I don't have cable either)

I'm a man I don't have to worry about womens rights to choose or otherwise.

So really, I've got nothing to be angry about, do you?
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By Unconvinced on Feb 16, 2004 1:10 PM EST
Dear Truth Squad:

What makes you so certain Dean will even win Vermont? And even if he does, that really wouldn't count as a win. It would be a win with an asterisk.
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By Meta on Feb 16, 2004 1:10 PM EST

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

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By Singer on Feb 16, 2004 1:11 PM EST
Clear-thinking Deaniacs: Don't lose heart!!! We have months to disprove the "media coronation". Do as Philly Supporter says and add to that list of reasons we all want Dr. Dean. Then send it to an undecided friend.
There is a BIG difference between him and sad ol', boring, uninspiring, ineffectual, insider John Kerry, who steals all his ideas and even phrases from the Good Doctor 'cause he had none of his own!!
If the rest of the numb-brained country doesn't figure this out, we'll be stuck with FOUR MORE YEARS OF the BUSH/NIGHTMARE/OBSCENITY/ADMINISTRATION!
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By vj mpls on Feb 16, 2004 1:11 PM EST
Opps. I still had my Vanlentine's Day handle. Well why not!

vj loves jy mpls!

Dean or Die (trying)!
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By TeaTimeTim on Feb 16, 2004 1:12 PM EST

Nice to see the Kerry people getting scared again and coming back over here. Welcome back Unconvinced. Got news for you we don't back down, not even when the its over..

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By I hate the DNC on Feb 16, 2004 1:13 PM EST
I think that Dean might win Veromont but I just don't think anywhere else he can.


In the latest blow to his moribund campaign, a senior Dean advisor said late Sunday that he would defect to the Kerry camp if Dean does not win Wisconsin.
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By Miles in WesternWA on Feb 16, 2004 1:13 PM EST
Neal in south GA,

LOL!! Good one!
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By deanforokc on Feb 16, 2004 1:14 PM EST

when is the actual date of the convention??

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By Rita in DC on Feb 16, 2004 1:14 PM EST
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO ASK OR TELL HQ, PLEASE E-MAIL THEM USING THIS ADDRESS:

blog@deanforamerica.com

That's more effective than posting your comment, even a million times (so please don't post your comment a million times!). : )
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By TeresaInPennsylvania on Feb 16, 2004 1:14 PM EST
Dear Unconvinced

You've broken my heart, honest to goodness you have.............

bzzzzzzz, buzzer sounds, YOU ARE OUT!

But you take home as a concesssion prize, the home version of WAC A MOLE. Enjoy!

Next contestant COME ON DOWN!
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 1:16 PM EST
bgyrl:

Good Idear, but I suspect that the networks will cut away from him before he completes his first sentence. They did that to almost all of the candidates last Tuesday night. They cut away from Clark when it looked like he wasn't going to concede, so they'll do the same to Gov. Howard Dean, M.D.

Posted by rwilson4dean at February 16, 2004 12:49 PM

That's why Dean has to craft the speech well...even if he says in the speech, "Now I know the media networks are going to cut away because they don't want to hear this...but I am not dropping out. I AM the only one who can beat Bush. I AM the only with with a pure message of change."
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By MWinters on Feb 16, 2004 1:17 PM EST
Re: Alex Polier

Regardless of the reason for such a delay, the release of an Alex Polier interview by ABC News must be encouraged. Again, we should call, e-mail, and blog ABC to deliver such encouragement.

Why have international media outlets found such an item newsworthy while the U.S. media has not? This is a valid question that needs putting to ABC.

Moreover, it’s the only chance Dean has left. Kerry needs to be hobbled!
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By Ray on Feb 16, 2004 1:17 PM EST
Renee in Milw,

We have to stress Howard's record of accomplishment against Edwards; he, like Kerry, has done nothing in the Senate; Howard has, for years, got things done and produced results, while all the others are just talk. Keep on telling people that in VT, every child under 18 has health care; he balanced the budget every year as governor, he cut child abuse in half. A doctor is someone who undertands the health care and the prescription drug problems in this country. Howard Dean will get things done, the others offer more of the same.
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By bgyrl on Feb 16, 2004 1:17 PM EST

P.S. And don't be so sure about Kerry taking Mass! I'm registered and waiting anxiously for the Mass primary and will NOT be voting for Kerry.

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By NYC FIREMAN on Feb 16, 2004 1:17 PM EST
I S T I L L B E L I E V E !!!!!!!!!!!




thank you metta in ohio!!!!
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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 1:18 PM EST
Unconvinced: Because people in Vermont vote for the best possible candidate for President. We don't get much national media here and don't usually do what the national media tells people to do. Vermont will be a landslide for Dean.

He did a fantastic job here as Governor. Just for that a lone, we will send a message to the Democratic Party and the DLC.

Kerry has done a terrible job as Senator for Massachussetts.

He is the worst candidate the Democrats could select and someone has to tell the rest the Democrats that simple fact and we will do it in Vermont on March 2nd.

Vermont's higher percentage of a win here vs Kerry's lower percentage in Massachusetts will be like a beacon of truth.
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By DonnaInVermont on Feb 16, 2004 1:18 PM EST
You must see this. It will brighten your day!!

http://politics.postilion.org/soft_scream.mov
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By Mainefem1 on Feb 16, 2004 1:18 PM EST
"Dean will also stay in it because he knows on March 2, Vermont will give him a higher percentage of the vote than Masschusetts will give Kerry. And that will make all of us feel better. There are many Democrats in MA who know the real Kerry and can't stand him.

Won't that be a kick.
Posted by VT Truth Squad at February 16, 2004 01:09 PM"

Exactly--my daughter attends Smith; and tells me that Howard has a huge fanbase of Third Waver Dems down there.

She (and the incompetent MDP) missed out on her absentee ballot here in Maine; so I emailed her re: "how to" quickly change residency status in time to (hopefully) vote in MA March 2nd primary for Howard...it's her first time voting.

Howard needs to take a road trip from Burlington to the Ivy League feminist colleges in MA (nary a Rethuglican in sight)!

Ask Molly Ivins to stump w/him if visiting Smith--she's an alumnus of Smith's.

He's a perfect feminist's candidate...wouldn't cost and arm & a leg to stump in MA, either.

He can still cream off plenty of delegates in his own backyard for the Beantown convention.

It's doable.
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By Rita in DC on Feb 16, 2004 1:19 PM EST
Meta--

HQ's phone number: 1-802-651-3200. If you can't speak to the person you want, ask to leave that person a voice mail message.

Mostly for contributions: 1-866-DEAN-4-US

Both of those numbers are in the Contact Us info. on the websites. : )
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By Unconvinced on Feb 16, 2004 1:20 PM EST
I have a question about last night's debate:

Why does Dean still cling to that tired old line about his determination to raise everyone's taxes--including the poorest of the poor? "Wouldn't you be happy to pay the same taxes you paid under Bill Clinton if we could have the same economy as Bill Clinton?" What a hoot!!
Uh, Doctor Dean, the '90s boom was mostly a stock market bubble. Tax policy had little or nothing to do with it. No, we don't need another bubble right now. We need a solid economic recovery. Raising EVERYONE's taxes won't do it. I recommend all Deaniacs read a story in last week's "Business Week" comparing Dean's candidacy to a dot-com IPO. Excellent journalism.
Dean's POLICIES are what have his campaign in this mess. Once again: Dean is ZERO, ZERO, ZERO for 16 primaries/caucuses. What don't you guys understand about that statistic?????
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By Joe Sixpack on Feb 16, 2004 1:20 PM EST
This is the email I sent to Russ Feingold:

Dear Senator Feingold,

Thank you for your kind words about Howard Dean. Like you, Dr. Dean has shown great political courage. I appreciate the fact that you were the only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act. Being part of the Dean campaign has made all the more grateful that Wisconsin has a Senator like you. You have my unwavering support.

If we can get the power of the grassroots fighting to re-elect Senators like you, it will give a stronger voice to people like me who personal responsibility for fiscal discipline, fundamental rights, truth and fairness in government. It is because of people like you that the Dean movement will continue to be a force for change in America. You give us something to fight for.
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By Renee in Milw on Feb 16, 2004 1:21 PM EST

Charlie: My hubby & I signed and I sent out to DeanRR network. The numbers should go up quickly. Renee

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By Ithacamom on Feb 16, 2004 1:24 PM EST

Can we focus on getting Dean elected now instead of thinking about PACs, other members of congress in the future?

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By DanVT on Feb 16, 2004 1:26 PM EST
Unconvinced-
The poorest of the poor don't pay any taxes anyway. A slight increase in taxes for those who pay about 2,000 a year in taxes will not be large burden at all, and will have huge rewards in returns, in the form of lower property taxes, more services, etc.
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By deanforokc on Feb 16, 2004 1:26 PM EST
convention date?

spread the love..
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By Mansi on Feb 16, 2004 1:27 PM EST
the new poll is a good news , we are fighting against all the odds and we still wining.Please let's go for the supper Tue. call, call, call, call......all voters in Wisconsin, we can still do it.
I will stand with the Dr. no matter what!!
Mansi
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By Miles in WesternWA on Feb 16, 2004 1:28 PM EST

RE: The Femme Factor



"...Howard needs to take a road trip from Burlington to the Ivy League feminist colleges in MA (nary a Rethuglican in sight)!



Ask Molly Ivins to stump w/him if visiting Smith--she's an alumnus of Smith's.



He's a perfect feminist's candidate...wouldn't cost and arm & a leg to stump in MA, either.



He can still cream off plenty of delegates in his own backyard for the Beantown convention.



It's doable."



[Posted by Mainefem1 at February 16, 2004 01:18 PM]

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Mainefem1,



Good post.



In California, Mills College also would be a great place to rally.

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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 1:29 PM EST
Let's use this campaign's superior technological achievement to our best advantage RIGHT NOW!

Find a houseparty in your area tonight:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/presidentsday

Make calls to Wisconsin voters today:
http://dialingfordean.com/

Contribute to the DFA campaign right now:
http://www.deanforamerica.com/contributenow

Help fund grassroots advertisements in upcoming primary states:
http://www.aspenwilde.com/dfa.htm

We can't control the news or the polls, but we are best equipped of anyone out there to tell the Dean story and make a difference.

Go, Dean!
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By Miles in WesternWA on Feb 16, 2004 1:30 PM EST
Ithacamom,

We are multitasking at our politics. :-)
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By dixychik on Feb 16, 2004 1:30 PM EST
>>Posted by shockra at February 16, 2004 12:41 PM

Shockra ... THAT is the message! If everybody could read JUST what you wrote, that would do it! An honest man who isn't afraid to stand up for what he believes is right.

I have never stopped believing for one second!

Never give up!
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By Mike in Baltimore on Feb 16, 2004 1:32 PM EST
Were waking up Wisconsin!
Keep it up everyone!
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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 1:33 PM EST

Convention in Boston is July 26-29

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By jc on Feb 16, 2004 1:33 PM EST
The Basics Bat,

Thanks for all your hard work! Glad to have you on the Dean Team! ;-)
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By Unconvinced on Feb 16, 2004 1:33 PM EST
Dear DanVT:

Just as the poor might start to work their way out of the lower rungs of the economic ladder, Dean would slap 'em with more taxes. And what about the middle class? Tax em higher and higher!
Dean shouldn't connect higher taxes with prosperity. It's just a lie. The go-go '90s produced a huge gush of treasury receipts that was unsustainable. Plenty of books have been written about the 90s and what really happened. You should read them. Dean should read them.
And don't even get me started on Dean's claims to have produced healthcare coverage for all of his state's residents. Try doing that in a LARGE state that isn't so homogenous.
Again, it's his policies that doomed him from the start.
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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 1:34 PM EST
Unconvinced: after all that has gone down, you still feel the need to dump on Dean. It must mean thay you realize that we were right. Kerry is a loser. No one likes him. All exit polls show that the only reason they voted for him is becasue the media declared him electable.

All exit polls showed that the people who voted for Kerry did not agree with any of his latest votes in the Senate.

So if you are here trying to convince us to change, there must be something you doubt in your little mind -- like perhaps when you vote for the worst candidate ever since Dukakis, you might be in trouble come November.

Yes, admit it , you are nervous and that is why you feel you need to convince us to drop our support of Dean. You know you are stuck with a loser and sooner than later everyone will realize it.

Normal people aren't giving him money, only rich folks. He has no real base of support out side of the rich DLC and DNC types and those hoping for jobs in his administration. Kerry is the most pathetic candidate since Dukakis. In fact he probably is worse than Dukakis.
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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 1:36 PM EST

Does anyone else hear that familiar buzz of an "Unconvinced," trapped in a jar, making that wierd buzzing sound as it thrashes against the side trying to find its way back out?

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By bonnie in ma on Feb 16, 2004 1:37 PM EST
i work in central square, cambridge, MA, and i just walked by the Dean HQ on my way to the bank. YAY! It is so great to see, and so close to me. To anyone reading this who is involved with the mass. HQ, please email me and let me know what I can to do to help. I plan on stopping in one night after work this week.

Also, we were out in Natick on saturday, on rt 30, and i saw a lone Dean Supporter with his sign on the side of the road. It was really inspiring to see this, i beeped my horn like crazy and nearly jumped out to join him.

I got my package of pins and bumper stickers today and i am sending them out to family and friends.

We can do this. We can. I feel the momentum.
Keep it up! Have faith in the good doctor, have faith in yourselves!
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By kate_in_montclair on Feb 16, 2004 1:37 PM EST

new thread

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By Unconvinced on Feb 16, 2004 1:38 PM EST
The Truth Squad never seems to mention this Truth:
ZERO for 16. Explain that one, please.
Are you calling the Democratic voters STUPID?? UNEDUCATED?? MISGUIDED? What? Or is it the media's fault. Please state your case, truth squad.
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By Unconvinced on Feb 16, 2004 1:41 PM EST
Unconvinced has left the building. The truth will be known Tuesday evening as the Wisconsin voters have their say. I think we all know what they're going to say. You've heard the last of me. Truth is not what's wanted here.
Best of luck Deaniacs.
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By Mainefem1 on Feb 16, 2004 1:48 PM EST
Yo, Miles.

Absolutely.

Kerry has *some* support at Smith; but according to my daughter, Howard's is higher.

All feminist colleges "get it" re: keeping Dems in power at all levels.

Not as wishy-washy as those wishy-washy "swing voters" (who are a waste of time/resources, IMMHO).

The Seven Sister colleges system is in New England.

You go where your constituencies are, and these young women know exactly who feminist suffragettes are, 'cuz they write reams of papers about them.

They "get it."

...and Judy Steinberg Dean is highly respected by feminists, you can count on that.

MA is filled with young feminists, who would looooooooove to vote on March 2nd.

Their residency status might be tricky (it's to late to re-register them now), but regarding GOTV, a quick stump speech or two wouldn't stress HQ's resources at all.

It's also Women's History Month.

***Forget* about NASCAR Dads and "Security Moms."

Go to the base.

Duh.
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By daprofessor on Feb 16, 2004 1:55 PM EST
WOMAN DENIES AFFAIR WITH JOHN KERRY.

Alexandra Polier issued a statement saying, "I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors are completely false." Kerry already has denied reports that he had an affair. Her statement was released to the AP in Nairobi, where the 27-year-old freelance journalist is visiting the parents of her fiance.

"Whoever is spreading these rumors and allegations does not know me," Polier said, appealing to the media to respect her privacy and the privacy of her fiance and his family. Polier also took issue with reports that she was a former Kerry intern. "I never interned or worked for John Kerry," she told AP over the phone.

Polier's parents dismissed the "completely false and unsubstantiated" allegations about their daughter. "We love and support her 100% and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family," the statement said. "We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for President of the United States."
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By wodiej on Feb 16, 2004 2:01 PM EST

To Unconvinced, you will not convince true Dean supporters to sway to Kerry or anyone else. Why are you here? You must be so afraid for your candidate that you need to come over here and try to steal some ideas like Kerry did. You poor thing.

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By Scratchy on Feb 16, 2004 2:03 PM EST
Dean's policy and statements on terrorism, war, and security should be very specific and emphasized.
Americans will respond to practical ways to reduce worldwide ethnic prejudice. For example, religious prejudice has historically been perhaps the most destructive of human prejudices and cost-effective ways of reducing this will might distinguish him from Kerry and others.
Dean appears to have the courage and intelligence (based on his early opposition to the Iraq invasion) to communicate ideas on how prejudices could be reduced even though it is a very emotional issue.
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By raq in ny on Feb 16, 2004 2:09 PM EST
Hey Undecided,

Nearly *all* of the press that Dean got was negative, and has been negative since well before December. Remember when he was on the cover of three or 4 magazines in one week? Only one of them had a headline that was even marginally encouraging, and that was the New Yorker, not time, newsday, or us news. all of the other headlines were leading (or rather, misleading), with a doubtful and skeptical tone, and their articles only focused more on his so-called gaffes than on his record. While some may say that all press is good press, I respectfully disagree.

For the rest of the blog, check out NOW with Bill Moyers - there's a really interesting piece about the impact of the conservative talk radio shows - highly recommend it.

http://www.pbs.org/now/

Go Dean! And see you all at the Convention (wouldn't that be fantastic?!)


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Deaniacs,

Time for a reality check here. I know you'll all consider me a troll or a heckler, but you need to hear some facts.

Blaming the media for all of the campaign's problems is pathetic. Did Dean blame the media early in the campaign when he was their darling, making a habit of placing him on the covers of the newsweeklies and giving him nonstop gushing coverage? The media has just done its job, taking a close, thorough look at the candidate and reporting on what was found. The voters in 16-some contests have made their judgment known. The media didn't pull all those levers in the voting booths. You give the media WAY too much power.

The latest Zogby poll (a Dean surge?) has Kerry up 47% to Dean's 23% and Edwards' 20%. So together, Dean and Edwards voters even if they joined forces, still would not defeat Kerry.

Doctor Dean, Mr. Honesty, must now be honest with himself and the Democratic Party. His party is over. If, as he once said, "the enemy is George W. Bush," he should marshal his forces to a battle where he might actually be able to help land a victory. He ain't gonna win anything else.
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By cheryl on Feb 16, 2004 2:18 PM EST
FIRST OFF...EMOTION...AGREE!!!

That is SOOOOO helping Edwards. Talking to Wisconsin voters they love the Edwards poverty thing.

Dean needs to connect who he is with emotional triggers.

Also, Edwards is worth 28 million. The fact is, his parents started out poor, however, he was NOT poor the bulk of his childhood. Compared to most people I know, his life was pretty priviledged as well.

The main thing is...Dean can say, "I did not grow up poor, but I learned empathy when I was very young and dedicated myself to helping the poor my entire careerr...." (then go into the specifics of his achievements. Al Sharpton said it best when he said some rich people really care about the poor and dedicate their lives to helping them and some poor people are really evil people who get rich then forget the people they knew back then. I think the latter is what we see more often than not...that old saying people are democrats when they are poor and once rich become republicans. I was paraphrasing Al, but he made a good point. Dean needs to make that distinctions. More importantly, he needs to start using his own emotionals stories. Espeically when it comes to women and how he has supported women both in his hiring and in his social programs. Dean is the kind of man women love...if he could just get his message across.
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By cheryl on Feb 16, 2004 2:21 PM EST
THANK YOU IT PEOPLE

I used to manage techs and have to say they are some of my favorite employees. I cannot program to save my life, but have a good design eye as far as content and visual. I would always rely on the great tech experts to create my vision and I was amazed at the things they could do.

Keep up the great work and please so not abandon us. If you need a volunteer this summer, I might be able to swing 3 months in Vermont. I would be up for doing just about anything to help, even grunt work. :)
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By Susan in Ohio on Feb 16, 2004 2:28 PM EST
I think the blog gobbled up my previous post...

If it did - a big *thank you* to Charlie Grapski for the petition.
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By VT Truth Squad on Feb 16, 2004 2:36 PM EST
Oh for gosh sakes, the petition to the Democratic Party. When did the Democratic Party every stand for democracy in these past ten years. It stands for the same as the Republicans, only done without as much enthusiasm. Money Money Money they could care about you and your petition.

Dean wanted to reform the Democratic Party. He failed at that. We failed but that doesn't mean we were wrong. The Democratic Party is still the party that has legitimized the right wing take over of all three branches of the US government.

the Democratic Party is still the problem that stands in the way for real change.

the Democratic Party needs to be stopped before we have a chance of ridding the country of the right wing.

Dean's lost is a lost for the idea of reform of that party. Dean's lost is a victory for the same evil forces that have given us the right wing and the Democrats will not stop them as they are part of them.
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By tunaman2 on Feb 16, 2004 2:43 PM EST
A statement released Monday by Alexandra Polier, who has been the subject of rumors linking her to Sen. John Kerry:

"For the last several days I have seen Internet and tabloid rumors relating to me and Senator John Kerry. Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them. I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false. Whoever is spreading these rumors and allegations does not know me, but should know the pain they have caused me and my family. I am in Kenya with my fiance visiting his family, and we ask that the press respect our privacy and leave all of us alone."


A statement by Terry and Donna Polier, the parents of Alexandra Polier:

"We have spoken to our daughter and the allegations that have been made regarding her are completely false and unsubstantiated. We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family. We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/16/politics1300EST0543.DTL
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By daprofessor on Feb 16, 2004 4:59 PM EST
Defeat Propaganda. Get a life. Dr. Dean doesn't want to win with gossip -- he wants to win because the voters want him to -- or do they? He's lost 17 in a row, despite spending millions more than anyone else.

Here's for your gossip column:

A statement released Monday by Alexandra Polier, who has been the subject of rumors linking her to Sen. John Kerry:

"For the last several days I have seen Internet and tabloid rumors relating to me and Senator John Kerry. Because these stories were false, I assumed the media would ignore them. It seems that efforts to peddle these lies continue, so I feel compelled to address them. I have never had a relationship with Senator Kerry, and the rumors in the press are completely false. Whoever is spreading these rumors and allegations does not know me, but should know the pain they have caused me and my family. I am in Kenya with my fiance visiting his family, and we ask that the press respect our privacy and leave all of us alone."


A statement by Terry and Donna Polier, the parents of Alexandra Polier:

"We have spoken to our daughter and the allegations that have been made regarding her are completely false and unsubstantiated. We love and support her 100 percent and these unfounded rumors are hurtful to our entire family. We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/02/16/politics1300EST0543.DTL
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By Newsjunkie on Feb 16, 2004 7:09 PM EST
Thanks for all the hard work the bloggers and tech people do! I really enjoy being up on whats going on daily in this adventure.
GO DEAN!!!! He did great in the debate...played it smart.
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By grateful dead on Feb 17, 2004 11:31 AM EST
Remember what Kerry said in the last debate..... when he was asked if he regretted his vote to give Bush authorization to go to war with Iraq? He should have taken responsibility like Edwards did, but he blamed Bush.
Kerry protested the war in Vietnam having seen the horror of war up front......yet his vote sentenced over 500 young Americans to die in Iraq. Did he think war in Iraq was going to be a picnic? He is unfit to be president.
Go Dean Go!
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By grateful dead on Feb 17, 2004 11:44 AM EST
In the last debate, Kerry was asked if he regretted giving Bush authorization to go to war with Iraq. Instead of saying that he did, he blamed Bush.
What I want to know is why Kerry, who protested the war in Vietnam 30 years ago would give Bush authoriztion to send over 500 young Americans to die in Iraq. He is unfit to be president.
Go Dean Go!

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