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I heard a rumor that NYC is redoing its "WE ARE HOWARD DEAN'S SPECIAL INTEREST" visibility in Times Square.What are you -- as part of the largest, most hopeful, most inventive, determined, soulful and pragmatic grassroots campaign in Presidential history -- doing for Dean this weekend?
What Dean thoughts are you putting into Valentines day cards?
We just sang Happy Birthday to the intrepid Jay Els of the grassroots listservs, the man who answers all your action@deanforamerica.com complaints, the man manning the phones when the field department is in Wisconsin -- if nothing else, swing Jay's bat for Wisconsin and democracy and happy birthdays.
NYC Dean People meeting in Time Square at 4pm tomorrow!!
Please encourage Dr Dean to be interviewed on Wisconsin Public Radio before the primary. People living in the boonies too far away to hear him will appreciate hearing something other than the TV ads about being rubber stamps.
Saw these comments made by commentator Mark Shields about the late Sen. Paul Wellstone and I think they sum up for me what I like so much about Howard Dean:
"I just add this. Paul Wellstone was not a perfect man. He was a public man. And as a public man, he was that rarest of exceptions. He was a man of enormous passion; at a time when politicians are advised by the shrewdest strategists to be cool, detached, dispassionate, and all the rest of it -- he was hot and passionate. And there's no better scene than when he endorsed Bill Bradley for president of the United States. He would introduce Bill Bradley at rallies, and his fiery, just enthusiastic zealous, introduced ironic laconic Bill Bradley and Bradley's people said, gee, if he could only infect the senator with that enthusiasm. But in addition to the passion, conviction was central to the man. The other thing that was so exceptional about Paul Wellstone was his authenticity. He was authentic. There wasn't a sense that the Paul Wellstone you were seeing or I was seeing was different from the one that anybody else was seeing in Duluth or Eveleth or St. Paul. That was the sense of him that I will always cherish. That and rare political courage."
"I just add this. Paul Wellstone was not a perfect man. He was a public man. And as a public man, he was that rarest of exceptions. He was a man of enormous passion; at a time when politicians are advised by the shrewdest strategists to be cool, detached, dispassionate, and all the rest of it -- he was hot and passionate. And there's no better scene than when he endorsed Bill Bradley for president of the United States. He would introduce Bill Bradley at rallies, and his fiery, just enthusiastic zealous, introduced ironic laconic Bill Bradley and Bradley's people said, gee, if he could only infect the senator with that enthusiasm. But in addition to the passion, conviction was central to the man. The other thing that was so exceptional about Paul Wellstone was his authenticity. He was authentic. There wasn't a sense that the Paul Wellstone you were seeing or I was seeing was different from the one that anybody else was seeing in Duluth or Eveleth or St. Paul. That was the sense of him that I will always cherish. That and rare political courage."
We are doing visibility in Ipswich, MA on Saturday - 10- Noon. This will happen at the intersection of Market Street and Rt 133/Central Street - across from the Choate Bridge pub. If interested, email Deaniac@ipswichmass.net - or just show up!
These are last week's pictures:
http://www.ipswichmass.net/
Deaniac@ipswichmass.net
These are last week's pictures:
http://www.ipswichmass.net/
Deaniac@ipswichmass.net
MASSACHUSETTS VISIBILITY!!!!!MASSACHUSETTS VISIBILITY!!!!!MASSACHUSETTS VISIBILITY!!!!!
We are doing visibility in Ipswich, MA on Saturday - 10- Noon. This will happen at the intersection of Market Street and Rt 133/Central Street - across from the Choate Bridge pub. If interested, email Deaniac@ipswichmass.net - or just show up!
These are last week's pictures:
http://www.ipswichmass.net/
Deaniac@ipswichmass.net
We are doing visibility in Ipswich, MA on Saturday - 10- Noon. This will happen at the intersection of Market Street and Rt 133/Central Street - across from the Choate Bridge pub. If interested, email Deaniac@ipswichmass.net - or just show up!
These are last week's pictures:
http://www.ipswichmass.net/
Deaniac@ipswichmass.net
The time has come to switch to a totally positive message. There is no good reason why our beloved and favorite candidate, Howard Dean, or any of us, his loyal supporters, should say anything negative about Kerry, Edwards or even Gephardt and Clark.
Yes, it got my blood churning when Dr. Dean was the lone Democratic voice calling Georie W. to account for his crazy policies. And it was exciting to hear Dean say "I want to know what in the world so many democrats are doing supporting ..." and "I'm Howard Dean and I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party". But the "unfavorables" started to creep higher in Howard Dean's polling numbers and we can't reverse that trend with any sort of attack. If Dean wants to stay in the race he must do it for us his supporters and must start to help bring us together with the remaining candidates. This may sound like throwing in the towel but it is the only realistic strategy.
Kerry has been annointed by the press and by 12 of 14 primaries. Howard Dean's press contingient in Wisconsin is getting smaller. I still believe that Dr. Dean is the best candidate. I still believe that Dr. Dean is the most electable candidate and the strongest opponent to Georgie W. But realism is a virtue.
Kerry may fall from favor and may even fall to scandal but we can't do anything to promote the fall from grace. If Kerry continues to get his wildly favorable treatment from the press he win and will be our nominee. Any attacks from us or from Dean will only be self destructive to our cause.
Power to the people. Power to us, Howard Dean's Special Interest group. Kerry and Edwards are using Howard Dean's platform and winning with it as if it was their own. We and Dr. Dean should embrace every statement they make about exposing Bush's deceptions, fighting wealthy special interests, bringing healthcare to all Americans, reversing the tax cuts for the wealthy, balancing the budjet, etc... If there is a reversal of fortunes, we want all the people who support Kerry and Edwards on account of these issues to come back to a warm embrace not to "I told you so".
Dean is Right for America, Right Now!
Dean is Right! Dean is Right!
Yes, it got my blood churning when Dr. Dean was the lone Democratic voice calling Georie W. to account for his crazy policies. And it was exciting to hear Dean say "I want to know what in the world so many democrats are doing supporting ..." and "I'm Howard Dean and I represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic party". But the "unfavorables" started to creep higher in Howard Dean's polling numbers and we can't reverse that trend with any sort of attack. If Dean wants to stay in the race he must do it for us his supporters and must start to help bring us together with the remaining candidates. This may sound like throwing in the towel but it is the only realistic strategy.
Kerry has been annointed by the press and by 12 of 14 primaries. Howard Dean's press contingient in Wisconsin is getting smaller. I still believe that Dr. Dean is the best candidate. I still believe that Dr. Dean is the most electable candidate and the strongest opponent to Georgie W. But realism is a virtue.
Kerry may fall from favor and may even fall to scandal but we can't do anything to promote the fall from grace. If Kerry continues to get his wildly favorable treatment from the press he win and will be our nominee. Any attacks from us or from Dean will only be self destructive to our cause.
Power to the people. Power to us, Howard Dean's Special Interest group. Kerry and Edwards are using Howard Dean's platform and winning with it as if it was their own. We and Dr. Dean should embrace every statement they make about exposing Bush's deceptions, fighting wealthy special interests, bringing healthcare to all Americans, reversing the tax cuts for the wealthy, balancing the budjet, etc... If there is a reversal of fortunes, we want all the people who support Kerry and Edwards on account of these issues to come back to a warm embrace not to "I told you so".
Dean is Right for America, Right Now!
Dean is Right! Dean is Right!
I really really like the new radio ads on Governor Dean at www.truthandhope.org!!! Please be sure to contribute to their grassroots effort to put Dean ads on the air in upcoming primaries. Check out their site and support our cause!!!
What are you doing for visibility events Deanocrats???
What are you doing for visibility events Deanocrats???
I'll be taking my sons to the Westchester County, NY, visibility event in front of the New Rochelle Main Library tomorrow from 2-3.
Let's put up some positive stuff...
Dean stumps in Oshkosh
By Doug Zellmer
Gannett Wisconsin Newspapers
...Richard Mantz...traveled to Oshkosh Thursday to hear what Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean had to say.
“What I came here for was issues. That’s what people talk about during an election,” said Mantz of Fond du Lac, one of about 500 people who listened to Dean at the Grand Opera House.
Dean...focused on health care in the town hall-style meeting.
Russ Allen, of Winneconne, said he appreciated an opportunity to hear Dean lay out his positions in person.
“He’s an issues candidate and I think he brought that out today,” Allen said.
Dean hammered his conviction that every citizen should have health insurance....
Dean stumps in Oshkosh
By Doug Zellmer
Gannett Wisconsin Newspapers
...Richard Mantz...traveled to Oshkosh Thursday to hear what Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean had to say.
“What I came here for was issues. That’s what people talk about during an election,” said Mantz of Fond du Lac, one of about 500 people who listened to Dean at the Grand Opera House.
Dean...focused on health care in the town hall-style meeting.
Russ Allen, of Winneconne, said he appreciated an opportunity to hear Dean lay out his positions in person.
“He’s an issues candidate and I think he brought that out today,” Allen said.
Dean hammered his conviction that every citizen should have health insurance....
As an enthusiastic Dean supporter for over a year, my greatest consolation is this: everyone I know, and I mean EVERYONE, knows the media has tried to destroy Dean.
Who knows their motivation. But the facts of what they've done is indisputable.
Who knows their motivation. But the facts of what they've done is indisputable.
Please consider these 2 words when communicating to others about Howard Dean.
TRUST and ACCOUNTABILITY
A good friend of mine, who is far to the left and supports Dean said to me the other night - "You know, I really trust Dean".
Two simple words that say so much. How many politicians can you attach these words to?
TRUST and ACCOUNTABILITY
A good friend of mine, who is far to the left and supports Dean said to me the other night - "You know, I really trust Dean".
Two simple words that say so much. How many politicians can you attach these words to?
Repost - dear manitou, make this format properly. And dc? Thank you.
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Right about now, a lot of us who never poked our noses in politics before (why bother? no matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in), have learned a great deal more than they ever wanted to about a presidential campaign. Or any political campaign, come to that.
This is what I have learned.
They're all in it together. Once you've clawed your way into power, you will do almost anything to stay in power. Once you've arrived, you discover it's one large club. Some are Republicans and some are Democrats, but basically they're neither in the pure sense - what they _are_, are politicians. What binds them all together is money = power. As someone once said, and maybe it was Dylan (who's looking real old and real sour these days, no doubt because he's bothered to pay attention all these years and that can wear away at a person), money doesn't talk, it swears.
They're all rich white men. Hillary is an honorary rich white man.
So what was on the table this election year? Pretty much the same old crap - save an incredible wild card no one was counting on. A family doctor out of the little green state of Vermont.
They did not count on the internet either. The internet allowed certain people - educated,
reasonably sophisticated, and not poor (even if they're broke; huge difference between poor and broke) - to bypass the media and talk to each other. It meant we didn't have to get our information entirely from the normal channels. It meant we could share our opinions and our insights. It meant we could contribute directly to a candidate. It meant we could come together regardless of party affliation, class, color, gender, social status, or religion.
It did _not_ mean any candidate could have inspired such a people's campaign - but in Howard Dean we did not have _any_ candidate. We had a leader. We had a good man. We had someone who galvanized one hell of a lot of disaffected oldies as well as wide eyed newbies.
You can imagine what all this meant to those in power. As a novelist and screenwriter, I have no trouble picturing the kind of midnight phone calls and secret meetings that went on as Dean's campaign gathered steam.
The Clintons and their hand-picked man, Verry McAwful, were all suddenly confronted with the possibility that a democrat might actually win against an incumbant president and that Hillary would therefore _not_ be the candidate in 2008. Terry was out of a job. And so was every other person in politics who were beholden to, or dependent on, the Clintons.
Good grief! What to do?
Bush and the Boys are also rich white men. The only difference between them and all the rest is their agenda. Aside from all else they intend doing is to beggar the government. If they beggar the government (and they are), the social programs will die from lack of funding. Government will shrink. There will be just them and one holy hell of a lot of undereducated overjunkfood-fed consumers. (Which fill the coffers of the health 'industry'.) Those who haven't the gumption to be consumers will be marginalized. I think they hope these people will just have the good grace to go off somewhere and die.
But with astounding rise of Dean, Bush was also confronted with the loss of a job - and the power to push through his puppetmasters agenda.
_Everyone_ in power suddenly had the same agenda. Get rid of Howard Dean. And shut us up,
or 'harvest' us.
Clark was a Bush man and still is (my god, the notion that anyone ever thought he was against the war and an outsider!). He ran as a spoiler to drain away supporters and money from Dean. He ran just long enough to make sure of Dean's defeat and then quit. But before he did, he left a little present for Kerry. He made that crack about Kerry's implosion. He backs him now because he has to look like a good democrat to complete the picture he's painted. Both Clark and his Bush masters want Kerry as the nominee.
So do the Clintons. At first they encouraged Clark (do they know his full story? Why not? - they're politicians, they know the game) to a.) spoil Dean's campaign, and b.) to win the nomination, and c.) lose to Bush. But when Clark began to wane, they needed another candidate. Enter Kerry. Kerry is perfect. He's a terrible candidate and it won't take much for Bushco to convince most of America of that. Now it's Kerry's job to run and to lose. Not that Kerry necessarily knows this. He can't be all that bright - look at his track record. An opportunist of the first water, a supposedly deep thinker, but no one really smart would have his background and hope to win the presidency. We're dumb out here, but not that dumb.
The media is merely propangada. They say what they're paid to say. Sometimes they're not
altogether sure of what that is, but they get there in time. After all, those on top do not tell every little journalist and anchor man what's really going on.
Who the hell is Edwards? By now, he's no doubt aware of all of this and is hoping he'll be the last man standing. You never know, he might be. If he is, he'll lose to Bush. No one is worried about Edwards.
But if Kerry gets enough bad press, and things start to look really messy for the Democartic National Convention, the Clintons will play their last card. And it's an ACE. Hillary will step and SAVE US ALL. I know, I know, she promised New York she'd serve out her term... but with the party in this much trouble - what can a poor girl do?
Wow. I'm impressed with everyone. What a game they play.
But you know - life also has cards up her sleeve. She could pull a real fast one. She
could get Dean nominated. I don't know how. But it could happen.
Personally, I'm for life and for Dean. The deck may be stacked (and it is), but I'm playing this hand all the way.
***************************************
Right about now, a lot of us who never poked our noses in politics before (why bother? no matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in), have learned a great deal more than they ever wanted to about a presidential campaign. Or any political campaign, come to that.
This is what I have learned.
They're all in it together. Once you've clawed your way into power, you will do almost anything to stay in power. Once you've arrived, you discover it's one large club. Some are Republicans and some are Democrats, but basically they're neither in the pure sense - what they _are_, are politicians. What binds them all together is money = power. As someone once said, and maybe it was Dylan (who's looking real old and real sour these days, no doubt because he's bothered to pay attention all these years and that can wear away at a person), money doesn't talk, it swears.
They're all rich white men. Hillary is an honorary rich white man.
So what was on the table this election year? Pretty much the same old crap - save an incredible wild card no one was counting on. A family doctor out of the little green state of Vermont.
They did not count on the internet either. The internet allowed certain people - educated,
reasonably sophisticated, and not poor (even if they're broke; huge difference between poor and broke) - to bypass the media and talk to each other. It meant we didn't have to get our information entirely from the normal channels. It meant we could share our opinions and our insights. It meant we could contribute directly to a candidate. It meant we could come together regardless of party affliation, class, color, gender, social status, or religion.
It did _not_ mean any candidate could have inspired such a people's campaign - but in Howard Dean we did not have _any_ candidate. We had a leader. We had a good man. We had someone who galvanized one hell of a lot of disaffected oldies as well as wide eyed newbies.
You can imagine what all this meant to those in power. As a novelist and screenwriter, I have no trouble picturing the kind of midnight phone calls and secret meetings that went on as Dean's campaign gathered steam.
The Clintons and their hand-picked man, Verry McAwful, were all suddenly confronted with the possibility that a democrat might actually win against an incumbant president and that Hillary would therefore _not_ be the candidate in 2008. Terry was out of a job. And so was every other person in politics who were beholden to, or dependent on, the Clintons.
Good grief! What to do?
Bush and the Boys are also rich white men. The only difference between them and all the rest is their agenda. Aside from all else they intend doing is to beggar the government. If they beggar the government (and they are), the social programs will die from lack of funding. Government will shrink. There will be just them and one holy hell of a lot of undereducated overjunkfood-fed consumers. (Which fill the coffers of the health 'industry'.) Those who haven't the gumption to be consumers will be marginalized. I think they hope these people will just have the good grace to go off somewhere and die.
But with astounding rise of Dean, Bush was also confronted with the loss of a job - and the power to push through his puppetmasters agenda.
_Everyone_ in power suddenly had the same agenda. Get rid of Howard Dean. And shut us up,
or 'harvest' us.
Clark was a Bush man and still is (my god, the notion that anyone ever thought he was against the war and an outsider!). He ran as a spoiler to drain away supporters and money from Dean. He ran just long enough to make sure of Dean's defeat and then quit. But before he did, he left a little present for Kerry. He made that crack about Kerry's implosion. He backs him now because he has to look like a good democrat to complete the picture he's painted. Both Clark and his Bush masters want Kerry as the nominee.
So do the Clintons. At first they encouraged Clark (do they know his full story? Why not? - they're politicians, they know the game) to a.) spoil Dean's campaign, and b.) to win the nomination, and c.) lose to Bush. But when Clark began to wane, they needed another candidate. Enter Kerry. Kerry is perfect. He's a terrible candidate and it won't take much for Bushco to convince most of America of that. Now it's Kerry's job to run and to lose. Not that Kerry necessarily knows this. He can't be all that bright - look at his track record. An opportunist of the first water, a supposedly deep thinker, but no one really smart would have his background and hope to win the presidency. We're dumb out here, but not that dumb.
The media is merely propangada. They say what they're paid to say. Sometimes they're not
altogether sure of what that is, but they get there in time. After all, those on top do not tell every little journalist and anchor man what's really going on.
Who the hell is Edwards? By now, he's no doubt aware of all of this and is hoping he'll be the last man standing. You never know, he might be. If he is, he'll lose to Bush. No one is worried about Edwards.
But if Kerry gets enough bad press, and things start to look really messy for the Democartic National Convention, the Clintons will play their last card. And it's an ACE. Hillary will step and SAVE US ALL. I know, I know, she promised New York she'd serve out her term... but with the party in this much trouble - what can a poor girl do?
Wow. I'm impressed with everyone. What a game they play.
But you know - life also has cards up her sleeve. She could pull a real fast one. She
could get Dean nominated. I don't know how. But it could happen.
Personally, I'm for life and for Dean. The deck may be stacked (and it is), but I'm playing this hand all the way.
***Repost***
ALL DEAN HAS TO DO IN WISCONSIN
IS WELL ENOUGH TO *STAY IN THE RACE.*
Even if Dean's showing is hit by cr*ppy media stampeding, unlike Edwards, we won't have to stop because fickle $2000 donors go away. Or because of spending caps. This time it's different. We're people-powered.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Some of us feel discouraged; the emotional power of the media is overwhelming. The media will say we're dead (again). But THERE WE'LL STILL BE--raising ungodly sums from small donations (again) like after Iowa and NH. The media will be amazed (again). They'll learn (again) that ordinary Americans don't give up once we've found a way to be HEARD. That we LOVE real democracy. That taking our country back is too important to quit. We won't stop working for Dean until the nomination is nailed.
WE have the power.
Once it's Kerry and Dean, they can't avoid covering Dean (though we'll have to dog the Media for predictably negative coverage, per CMPA statistics, etc.). And, WE WILL spread ads and videos that the Media can't filter--like at and or . WE WILL expand Meetups and visibility events and tabling. WE WILL do anything and everything we can think of!
Watch the gov's 6/23/03 Great American Restoration speech with people who haven't heard Dean. You'll still believe. Hang in!
Together, we and Dean can still win this.
Si, se puede!
ALL DEAN HAS TO DO IN WISCONSIN
IS WELL ENOUGH TO *STAY IN THE RACE.*
Even if Dean's showing is hit by cr*ppy media stampeding, unlike Edwards, we won't have to stop because fickle $2000 donors go away. Or because of spending caps. This time it's different. We're people-powered.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Some of us feel discouraged; the emotional power of the media is overwhelming. The media will say we're dead (again). But THERE WE'LL STILL BE--raising ungodly sums from small donations (again) like after Iowa and NH. The media will be amazed (again). They'll learn (again) that ordinary Americans don't give up once we've found a way to be HEARD. That we LOVE real democracy. That taking our country back is too important to quit. We won't stop working for Dean until the nomination is nailed.
WE have the power.
Once it's Kerry and Dean, they can't avoid covering Dean (though we'll have to dog the Media for predictably negative coverage, per CMPA statistics, etc.). And, WE WILL spread ads and videos that the Media can't filter--like at
Watch the gov's 6/23/03 Great American Restoration speech with people who haven't heard Dean. You'll still believe. Hang in!
Together, we and Dean can still win this.
Si, se puede!
where's Kimmy Cash? I want more Kerry dirt. What is the latest?
Going out petitioning to put Dean and his dlegates on the PA ballot with my wife Diana (whose birthday it will be) and various other Deaniacs.
Many of us are sending messages to Terry McAuliffe using this format.
My name is ___________
I live in ___________
My vote is my voice
I will not be silenced
Anyone who wants to join us can send a postcard to
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
And anyone else who needs to see this message...media outlets, maybe? Othere Democrats like Bill Richardson of New Mexico who
was saying it's time for people who haven't won a primary yet to get out of the race?
My name is ___________
I live in ___________
My vote is my voice
I will not be silenced
Anyone who wants to join us can send a postcard to
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
And anyone else who needs to see this message...media outlets, maybe? Othere Democrats like Bill Richardson of New Mexico who
was saying it's time for people who haven't won a primary yet to get out of the race?
justinh -
The multi-billion dollar big media people don't want to 1) be regulated in any way and 2) pay their fair share of taxes. They're against Dean because they know he can't be bought. Just my 2 cents.
The multi-billion dollar big media people don't want to 1) be regulated in any way and 2) pay their fair share of taxes. They're against Dean because they know he can't be bought. Just my 2 cents.
by kos
Fri Feb 13th, 2004 at 03:34:47 GMT
According to ARG, Clark's supporters seem to have split almost down the middle between Kerry and Edwards. Even had they all gone to Edwards, Kerry would still maintain a solid lead. MoE 4%. 2/12. (2/6 results in parenthesis)
Kerry 53 (41)
Edwards 16 (10)
Undecided 16 (21)
Dean 11 (9)
Kucinich 2 (2)
Sharpton 2 (2)
But perhaps the most startling part of this poll is the fact that people really, really hate Dean.
Howard Dean
Favorable: 19 (20)
Unfavorable: 43 (37)
Fri Feb 13th, 2004 at 03:34:47 GMT
According to ARG, Clark's supporters seem to have split almost down the middle between Kerry and Edwards. Even had they all gone to Edwards, Kerry would still maintain a solid lead. MoE 4%. 2/12. (2/6 results in parenthesis)
Kerry 53 (41)
Edwards 16 (10)
Undecided 16 (21)
Dean 11 (9)
Kucinich 2 (2)
Sharpton 2 (2)
But perhaps the most startling part of this poll is the fact that people really, really hate Dean.
Howard Dean
Favorable: 19 (20)
Unfavorable: 43 (37)
Hi, this is my first post! I've tried to post before, but couldn't get through...hope this one makes it.
I want to echo what the other North Carolinians on this blog are saying: People here do NOT trust John Edwards.
Every time I write a letter to an undecided voter, I'm reminded of all the good deeds Governor Dean has accomplished. And inevitably, I think about how the media has completely distorted the one honest campaign in this election. It's so frustrating. I thought about a poem I read for English class a few weeks ago:
"And honesty's against all common sense,
Men must be Knaves, 'tis in their own defence.
Mankind's dishonest, if you think it fair,
Amongst known Cheats, to play upon the square,
You'le be undone--
Nor can weak truth, your reputation save,
The Knaves will all agree to call you Knae.
Wrong'd shall he live, insulted o're, opprest,
Who dares be less a Villain, than the rest."
-John Rochester
Does that remind you of what's going on right now?
We just did some visibility today in Eau Claire, WI. We went over to hear the Governor at a rally there (we couldn't get enough of him last night at the fundraiser in Minneapolis!)
We stood on the street corners with our four kids (15, 11, 9 & 3) holding our signs and pointing people in the direction of the rally. We received a lot of honks and waves from people.
I was asked if our family would like to be on the stage behind Governor Dean as he gave his speech and of course I said, "YES!" What an honor to be able to show our support for him.
There must have been 500 people or more who turned out to listen to the Governor and again he delivered a powerful message. If you ever get the chance to see Governor Dean in person, DO IT, you will not be sorry.
We shook hands with him again today and he signed our visibility posters. I told him, "Governor, thank you for staying in this race. You are our voice.'' and his response was, "No, thank you for all that you have been doing for this campaign." He truly is a wonderful, friendly man!
Let's go out there and proudly show the world, our nation and our cities who the BEST man for the job is...Governor Howard Dean, M.D. #44
Go Howard! Go!
We stood on the street corners with our four kids (15, 11, 9 & 3) holding our signs and pointing people in the direction of the rally. We received a lot of honks and waves from people.
I was asked if our family would like to be on the stage behind Governor Dean as he gave his speech and of course I said, "YES!" What an honor to be able to show our support for him.
There must have been 500 people or more who turned out to listen to the Governor and again he delivered a powerful message. If you ever get the chance to see Governor Dean in person, DO IT, you will not be sorry.
We shook hands with him again today and he signed our visibility posters. I told him, "Governor, thank you for staying in this race. You are our voice.'' and his response was, "No, thank you for all that you have been doing for this campaign." He truly is a wonderful, friendly man!
Let's go out there and proudly show the world, our nation and our cities who the BEST man for the job is...Governor Howard Dean, M.D. #44
Go Howard! Go!
ATTENTION: NORTH CAROLINA VOTERS!!
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P04/NC-D.phtml
VOTE FOR DEAN ON APRIL 17.....Not in May!!
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P04/NC-D.phtml
VOTE FOR DEAN ON APRIL 17.....Not in May!!
I just got this from Keith Schmitz in Wisconsin:
"Hi:
To make your credit card payment on your generous pledge, please call
Editran between 9:00 and 5:30 cst on either Thursday or tomorrow
Friday.
If you have any questions, please get in touch.
Keith Schmitz/Wisconsin Grassroots"
I have written him back twice and he still hasn't responded. The big problem with what he sent me originally is that he didn't give me the PHONE NUMBER of the place where I'm supposed to make my pledge! Does anyone out there have this information? I need the phone number by 6:15 EST at the latest so that I can make my pledge on time.
Can anyone help?
"Hi:
To make your credit card payment on your generous pledge, please call
Editran between 9:00 and 5:30 cst on either Thursday or tomorrow
Friday.
If you have any questions, please get in touch.
Keith Schmitz/Wisconsin Grassroots"
I have written him back twice and he still hasn't responded. The big problem with what he sent me originally is that he didn't give me the PHONE NUMBER of the place where I'm supposed to make my pledge! Does anyone out there have this information? I need the phone number by 6:15 EST at the latest so that I can make my pledge on time.
Can anyone help?
repost from previous thread:
Just two cents about the "special interests" theme:
No one around here where I live (12 miles west of New York City, with a great view of where the Twin Towers used to be) is asking themselves "who is the candidate free of special interests?" They want to know:
Who can fix the economy and get Americans working?
Who can keep America safe?
Who can restore our historic international alliances?
Who can unite Americans?
Who can improve quality of life for the most people with the least pain?
Who can make our schools more effective?
Stuff like that. Special interest supporters are not even on the radar, and this is from the land that brought you Torricelli.
Could we please drop the "outsider" and the "special interest" themes and talk about stuff that matters to ordinary, well-educated, compassionate but prosperous and hoping to stay that way citizens?
My two cents for today...
Posted by kate_in_montclair at February 13, 2004 03:46 PM
Just two cents about the "special interests" theme:
No one around here where I live (12 miles west of New York City, with a great view of where the Twin Towers used to be) is asking themselves "who is the candidate free of special interests?" They want to know:
Who can fix the economy and get Americans working?
Who can keep America safe?
Who can restore our historic international alliances?
Who can unite Americans?
Who can improve quality of life for the most people with the least pain?
Who can make our schools more effective?
Stuff like that. Special interest supporters are not even on the radar, and this is from the land that brought you Torricelli.
Could we please drop the "outsider" and the "special interest" themes and talk about stuff that matters to ordinary, well-educated, compassionate but prosperous and hoping to stay that way citizens?
My two cents for today...
Posted by kate_in_montclair at February 13, 2004 03:46 PM
Phew! Troll Polls! They can't possibly equal the way I HATE KERRY!!
Feed the goal -
trolls4dean.com!!
Feed the goal -
trolls4dean.com!!
And I'll put this up for Undecided...
Big turnout for primary
Highest in 20 years, experts say
MADISON, Wis. (AP) _ Wisconsin's top election official said voter turnout in Wisconsin's new, earlier presidential primary could hit 40 percent, the highest for a presidential primary in the state in more than 20 years.
Elections Board Executive Director Kevin Kennedy said he expects about 1.6 million people to go to the polls Tuesday....
``What drives voter turnout is when voters feel like their vote makes a difference,'' Kennedy said.
[Has to be Kerry/Edwards, huh?]
Dean = 44!
Big turnout for primary
Highest in 20 years, experts say
MADISON, Wis. (AP) _ Wisconsin's top election official said voter turnout in Wisconsin's new, earlier presidential primary could hit 40 percent, the highest for a presidential primary in the state in more than 20 years.
Elections Board Executive Director Kevin Kennedy said he expects about 1.6 million people to go to the polls Tuesday....
``What drives voter turnout is when voters feel like their vote makes a difference,'' Kennedy said.
[Has to be Kerry/Edwards, huh?]
Dean = 44!
A reporter on MSNBC just broke a mirror accidentally while he was getting ready. It is Friday the 13th LOL-he looked a little nervous
re: What I Did For Howard Today
Perhaps the most important thing I did for Howard Dean today occured after lunch. Returning to work, I visited the little snack bar in our building which is operated by a college student. I have been talking with her about Howard Dean and she previously has said that he has her vote.
Today she said that she'd been told by someone that Howard was out of the race - dropped out. Imagine my surprise. I told her that was surprising news as Dean was in the DC caucus tommorrow and in Tuesday's Wisconsin primary. I further assured her that Dean was in fact still a candidate and was one of three major contenders. I explained the nomination process and the need for delegates. She's still with us. I reminded her that Arkansas' primary is May 18th and we needed her support.
Recommend we follow up with our number 1s and make sure they are getting the correct information on Howard.
WE ARE HOWARD DEAN
The greatest grassroots movement in presidential history
Follow us to Victory - We are going the distance!
Perhaps the most important thing I did for Howard Dean today occured after lunch. Returning to work, I visited the little snack bar in our building which is operated by a college student. I have been talking with her about Howard Dean and she previously has said that he has her vote.
Today she said that she'd been told by someone that Howard was out of the race - dropped out. Imagine my surprise. I told her that was surprising news as Dean was in the DC caucus tommorrow and in Tuesday's Wisconsin primary. I further assured her that Dean was in fact still a candidate and was one of three major contenders. I explained the nomination process and the need for delegates. She's still with us. I reminded her that Arkansas' primary is May 18th and we needed her support.
Recommend we follow up with our number 1s and make sure they are getting the correct information on Howard.
WE ARE HOWARD DEAN
The greatest grassroots movement in presidential history
Follow us to Victory - We are going the distance!
w00t! means "awesome"
(small w zero zero small t)
w00t!!!!
howard dean = w00tness
dean people = super w00tness
w00t means everything is good.
it's all good
"now you see de light
stand up for your rights"
(the prophet bob marley)
(small w zero zero small t)
w00t!!!!
howard dean = w00tness
dean people = super w00tness
w00t means everything is good.
it's all good
"now you see de light
stand up for your rights"
(the prophet bob marley)
Renee in Ohio:
Is there an email?
If so then people should send Terry McAuliffe a Dean postcard:
http://postcards.deanforamerica.com/
Is there an email?
If so then people should send Terry McAuliffe a Dean postcard:
http://postcards.deanforamerica.com/
Dale In Minnesota: Does this help?
February 13, 2004
BY MICHAEL SNEED SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
Here we go again.
It's called the sex thing.
Dem presidential contenderJohn Kerry's campaign may have been hit broadside. Please, pardon the pun.
It's no secret Kerry dated alotta women after his divorce from first wife Julia Thorne in 1988 and before he married Teresa Heinz in 1995.
But the first salvo in an alleged sexual drama came via Internet columnist Matt Drudge, author of the "Drudge Report," (which broke the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky mess) who claimed Thursday a Kerry scandal may be erupting. It allegedly involves Kerry's marital infidelity with a woman who once worked for the Associated Press -- and has reportedly fled the country at the prodding of Kerry.
True? Well, Sneed is told the real reason former Dem presidential nominee Al Goredid NOT select Kerry as his veepmate was because of allegations of women problems, or marital infidelity involving Kerry's marriage to Heinz, heiress to the Heinz Ketchup fortune, whom he met in 1990.
A top source tells Sneed Gore was talking about Kerry's sexual baggage "with a young woman" as recently as late last week!
"Kerry was the favorite to be Gore's veep, but they worried a female problem could erupt, so U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman was selected instead," said the source.
"In addition to Gore backing Howard Dean for president, because he wanted access to the cadre of Dean youth called the "Deanie babies" when he runs for president again and goes up against Hillary Clinton, Gore chose Dean because he feared the Kerry female mess would rear its ugly head," the source added.
Introduced to Kerry by her late husband, Pennsylvania Republican Sen. John Heinz -- who was killed in a plane crash in 1991 -- Teresa Heinz married Kerry after he signed a pre-nup. (Heinz owns five homes in the United States.)
The big question: Did Dean opt not to pull out of the race after the Wisconsin primary because he was waiting for the Kerry scandal to erupt?
And didn't Kerry linger longer at P.J. Clarke's pub than he should have while chatting it up with a member of the opposite sex during a visit to Chicago a few years back?
By the way, Thorne, Kerry's ex-wife, who has since married an architect, has written a book about depression called: You Are Not Alone.
February 13, 2004
BY MICHAEL SNEED SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST
Here we go again.
It's called the sex thing.
Dem presidential contenderJohn Kerry's campaign may have been hit broadside. Please, pardon the pun.
It's no secret Kerry dated alotta women after his divorce from first wife Julia Thorne in 1988 and before he married Teresa Heinz in 1995.
But the first salvo in an alleged sexual drama came via Internet columnist Matt Drudge, author of the "Drudge Report," (which broke the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky mess) who claimed Thursday a Kerry scandal may be erupting. It allegedly involves Kerry's marital infidelity with a woman who once worked for the Associated Press -- and has reportedly fled the country at the prodding of Kerry.
True? Well, Sneed is told the real reason former Dem presidential nominee Al Goredid NOT select Kerry as his veepmate was because of allegations of women problems, or marital infidelity involving Kerry's marriage to Heinz, heiress to the Heinz Ketchup fortune, whom he met in 1990.
A top source tells Sneed Gore was talking about Kerry's sexual baggage "with a young woman" as recently as late last week!
"Kerry was the favorite to be Gore's veep, but they worried a female problem could erupt, so U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman was selected instead," said the source.
"In addition to Gore backing Howard Dean for president, because he wanted access to the cadre of Dean youth called the "Deanie babies" when he runs for president again and goes up against Hillary Clinton, Gore chose Dean because he feared the Kerry female mess would rear its ugly head," the source added.
Introduced to Kerry by her late husband, Pennsylvania Republican Sen. John Heinz -- who was killed in a plane crash in 1991 -- Teresa Heinz married Kerry after he signed a pre-nup. (Heinz owns five homes in the United States.)
The big question: Did Dean opt not to pull out of the race after the Wisconsin primary because he was waiting for the Kerry scandal to erupt?
And didn't Kerry linger longer at P.J. Clarke's pub than he should have while chatting it up with a member of the opposite sex during a visit to Chicago a few years back?
By the way, Thorne, Kerry's ex-wife, who has since married an architect, has written a book about depression called: You Are Not Alone.
Mary Workman,
I agree; that's the most probable theory.
(Particularly since the DLC is in bed with much of the telecom industry, and Dean's rivals had neither the money nor the support to defeat him themselves.)
I agree; that's the most probable theory.
(Particularly since the DLC is in bed with much of the telecom industry, and Dean's rivals had neither the money nor the support to defeat him themselves.)
Even Roy Neel said Miracles happen -- lol
Wonder what the rationale will be for Dean's poor 3rd place showing in Wisconsin?
Hey, at least we beat Kucinich?
Wonder what the rationale will be for Dean's poor 3rd place showing in Wisconsin?
Hey, at least we beat Kucinich?
P.S. I made an error in saying no American press were reporting the Kerry-intern story. I just realized the Christian news sites are reporting it. www.crosswalk.com, one of the major internet Christian news sites already has a story up.
If Kerry knows whats good for him, America, and the Democratic party he will get out now and not take all of us down with him. That is of course if he's really in this to do what's best for America and not what's best for himself.
If Kerry knows whats good for him, America, and the Democratic party he will get out now and not take all of us down with him. That is of course if he's really in this to do what's best for America and not what's best for himself.
Mary from Montco PA at February 13, 2004 03:51 PM,
I like the way you talk...
(Said in Slingblade voice, of course!)
I like the way you talk...
(Said in Slingblade voice, of course!)
Lemmings for Kerry. haha. So true, so true.
I have yet to meet a single person who supports Kerry for his positions on the issues. How can anybody be so foolish?
The Kerry 'electability' bubble is about to POP, and Howard Dean will be there, with substance, ready to bring the Democratic party to victory.
I have yet to meet a single person who supports Kerry for his positions on the issues. How can anybody be so foolish?
The Kerry 'electability' bubble is about to POP, and Howard Dean will be there, with substance, ready to bring the Democratic party to victory.
The reason we NEED Howard Dean is the same reason My 2 year old needs a new diaper.
..this country is full of SH|T!
..this country is full of SH|T!
for fr 13th, a little hoodoo:
blowback
blowback
whatever you do
blowback dust
will blowback on you
(john kerry)
blowback
blowback
whatever you do
blowback dust
will blowback on you
(john kerry)
Stop demonizing Kerry!
Dean is going to turn on a dime, just as Clark did, and endorse Kerry any day now.
Dean is going to turn on a dime, just as Clark did, and endorse Kerry any day now.
CNN, Woodruff and Crowley discussing Dean Campaign saying they have no plans beyond Wisconsin, other than to return to Vermont to "regroup"
Anne in WI,
Do you agree with Jake that the WI campaign has been run as poorly as he's stating in his posts? I'm really curious because he's so down on it and others don't seem to be.
Do you agree with Jake that the WI campaign has been run as poorly as he's stating in his posts? I'm really curious because he's so down on it and others don't seem to be.
If this rumor about Kerry turns out to be true, I hope he won't be the nominee if for no other reason than that this country can't take another 4 years of a president who can't keep his trousers zipped.
Sometimes I wonder why ANYONE in his right mind would want to be president. The unremitting assault by the media (except in the smirking chimpanzee's case--they've given him a free ride all the way) reminds me of the torture endured by Prometheus in Greek mythology. Remember him? He was chained to a rock and daily an eagle came to claw him to bits. Every night he was restored and the next morning it began all over again. Eventually Heracles stomped up the hill and broke Prometheus' chains.
One could think of the presidency of this country as Prometheus and I did hope that Howard Dean would turn out to be Heracles....
And he may still. We may all be considerably surprised in August.
You know what's amazing?
I've talked to some Kerry supporters and asked them if they could name one good thing Kerry has done as a senator. Just one.
Only one guy had an answer: "He stands up for working people."
"How so?" I asked him.
He had no response.
I've talked to some Kerry supporters and asked them if they could name one good thing Kerry has done as a senator. Just one.
Only one guy had an answer: "He stands up for working people."
"How so?" I asked him.
He had no response.
On Here and Now on NPR this afternoon, Dorothy Rabinowitz spoke highly of Dean, and how dreadful it will be is Kerry is all there is. She esp. criticized his oration, going on and on tediosuly stringing sentences together, with an air of superiority, devleoped in his anti-war activism.
She said when Dean speaks, it is clear and honest.
What a breath of fresh air, and from the editoiral pages of the Wall Street Jounral no less!
She said when Dean speaks, it is clear and honest.
What a breath of fresh air, and from the editoiral pages of the Wall Street Jounral no less!
We don't need to demonized Kerry. He does it pretty well all by himself. Sleazy Kerry, what goes around comes around.
This is what I'm doing for democracy this weekend. I'm going to mom's house for her 89th birthday. I told her that while I was there I would help her fill out her absentee ballot. By the way, she already told me she is voting for Howard Dean. Even at 89 mom is one smart cookie.
What am I doing this weekend? I'm joining the Silicon Valley for Dean team to redo visibility on the corner of of El Camino and Embarcadero in Palo Alto.
Many of us did this last weekend on different corners. This time we are going to be all together! I'm excited. If your in the Bay Area please join us. We will be in Palo Alto between 11am and 12pm...
HEAL US HOWARD!
Many of us did this last weekend on different corners. This time we are going to be all together! I'm excited. If your in the Bay Area please join us. We will be in Palo Alto between 11am and 12pm...
HEAL US HOWARD!
What are you going to say when Dean endorses Kerry?
********
David W:
Pay for your Dean VHS's for Wisconsin by calling:
Editran at 414.357.6477
*********
I emailed last night and got a reply. They must be really busy, and it's a new, time-crunched project. I was told by Editran that over 3,000 VHSs were ordered! So I added another 100 at $1 each.
They are going to have each contributor's name on them, and will be distributed all this weekend.
Great 18 minute video, UNFILTERED by the corporate power media! check it out at
Let's do this for every primary!
David W:
Pay for your Dean VHS's for Wisconsin by calling:
Editran at 414.357.6477
*********
I emailed last night and got a reply. They must be really busy, and it's a new, time-crunched project. I was told by Editran that over 3,000 VHSs were ordered! So I added another 100 at $1 each.
They are going to have each contributor's name on them, and will be distributed all this weekend.
Great 18 minute video, UNFILTERED by the corporate power media! check it out at
Let's do this for every primary!
Ok-I officially want to bi*ch slap Judy Woof Woof
She was talking to Candy about positives of others staying in the race. They said something about Kerry taking high road while Dean ounds away at Bush
JUDY SAID-about Dean it depeneds on how many people are actually listening at this point.... or something like that {with a chuckle}
Man she ticks me off
She was talking to Candy about positives of others staying in the race. They said something about Kerry taking high road while Dean ounds away at Bush
JUDY SAID-about Dean it depeneds on how many people are actually listening at this point.... or something like that {with a chuckle}
Man she ticks me off
We received replies from the Nation from our letters to the editor with an article about one independent Newspaper in the country and the effect that made on the Dean Campaign, we won in that region of 31 towns, with Dean carrying 20 and beating Kerry by 3%.
here's the link:
http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1226
also they sent us to:
http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1250
the second of which I haven't read yet
The conclusion to the question How would Howard Dean be doing where there is independent media coverage? BETTER!
here's the link:
http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1226
also they sent us to:
http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1250
the second of which I haven't read yet
The conclusion to the question How would Howard Dean be doing where there is independent media coverage? BETTER!
New Kerry campaign slogan:
"This JFK: All Profile, No Courage (Well, maybe 35 years ago, but who's counting?)"
"This JFK: All Profile, No Courage (Well, maybe 35 years ago, but who's counting?)"
When you're planning your visibility, please remember to
1) contact your local TV and radio station
2) give them a schedule when most people are expected to be there
3) appoint a spokesperson who will look out for the media person, introduce people and be willing to sign a release.
4) come up with one or two local issues or concerns that you expect to be improved with Dean's election (for example, the harassment of New York hospitals to produce patient records in response to subpoenas would cease)
4a) prepare a one-page handout of your local interest positions to hand to the media and passers-by. Reporters are no longer good note-takers and their recorders often have dead batteries. You'll want to give them something quotable.
5) arrange for one of your party to take pictures and a video in addition, or instead of the press. Some small publications do not have staff available--especially on the weekend--unless there's an emergency.
6) If you get a commitment for press exposure, be sure to let your participants know. Some people are camera shy; others are hams.
7) If you've already had a visibility and/or plan more, let the media outlet know. If they can't cover your event this time, try to get a commitment for the next.
Remember that the media do not "look" for the news; they report what people tell them. If you don't tell them, you will definitely be ignored unless there's a minor riot. You may still be ignored even if you provide a heads up, but if every group in a region such as New York makes contact, there's a chance that one will be covered as a representative of a larger sample. That's why it's important that you provide a number (of people involved, as well as a telephone contact).
Anyone out there with more experience, feel free to add your two cents.
1) contact your local TV and radio station
2) give them a schedule when most people are expected to be there
3) appoint a spokesperson who will look out for the media person, introduce people and be willing to sign a release.
4) come up with one or two local issues or concerns that you expect to be improved with Dean's election (for example, the harassment of New York hospitals to produce patient records in response to subpoenas would cease)
4a) prepare a one-page handout of your local interest positions to hand to the media and passers-by. Reporters are no longer good note-takers and their recorders often have dead batteries. You'll want to give them something quotable.
5) arrange for one of your party to take pictures and a video in addition, or instead of the press. Some small publications do not have staff available--especially on the weekend--unless there's an emergency.
6) If you get a commitment for press exposure, be sure to let your participants know. Some people are camera shy; others are hams.
7) If you've already had a visibility and/or plan more, let the media outlet know. If they can't cover your event this time, try to get a commitment for the next.
Remember that the media do not "look" for the news; they report what people tell them. If you don't tell them, you will definitely be ignored unless there's a minor riot. You may still be ignored even if you provide a heads up, but if every group in a region such as New York makes contact, there's a chance that one will be covered as a representative of a larger sample. That's why it's important that you provide a number (of people involved, as well as a telephone contact).
Anyone out there with more experience, feel free to add your two cents.
What are you going to say when Dean endorses Kerry?
My email to Tom Harkin:
Dear Senator Harkin:
I was thrilled when you chose to endorse Governor Dean for President and work so vigorously for his campaign. I am thoroughly distressed as I believe you are at the turn
of events. It is truly eerie how Howard could have gone from front runner, leading nationwide, to where he is today in such a short period of time – all the while adhering steadfastly to his wonderful core issues and convictions for changing the status quo, business-as-usual and taking this country back from its grip by special interest.
Word is circulating that you may withdraw your endorsement. I can’t stress to you how disappointing an act that would be, but more importantly how badly it reflects on you.
You hailed him as the next Harry Truman; a bold and straight talking man – as you yourself are - who will bring to Washington the kind of leadership he’s shown as Governor.
He is that same man still.
If there’s one thing I respect about George Bush Sr. is that he stood by Dan Quayle in spite of the ridicule piled on him, and planned to keep him as V.P. for his second term.
Christopher Dodd stayed with Joe Lieberman till the end, and stood by him when he conceded the race. That says a lot about Chris Dodd.
I hope you will reconsider. It will reflect well on your loyalty and core values and keep you in good standing throughout your life.
Sincerely,
Dear Senator Harkin:
I was thrilled when you chose to endorse Governor Dean for President and work so vigorously for his campaign. I am thoroughly distressed as I believe you are at the turn
of events. It is truly eerie how Howard could have gone from front runner, leading nationwide, to where he is today in such a short period of time – all the while adhering steadfastly to his wonderful core issues and convictions for changing the status quo, business-as-usual and taking this country back from its grip by special interest.
Word is circulating that you may withdraw your endorsement. I can’t stress to you how disappointing an act that would be, but more importantly how badly it reflects on you.
You hailed him as the next Harry Truman; a bold and straight talking man – as you yourself are - who will bring to Washington the kind of leadership he’s shown as Governor.
He is that same man still.
If there’s one thing I respect about George Bush Sr. is that he stood by Dan Quayle in spite of the ridicule piled on him, and planned to keep him as V.P. for his second term.
Christopher Dodd stayed with Joe Lieberman till the end, and stood by him when he conceded the race. That says a lot about Chris Dodd.
I hope you will reconsider. It will reflect well on your loyalty and core values and keep you in good standing throughout your life.
Sincerely,
From the today's Note...
"Though his pile of chips may be dwindling, Dean is still receiving some backing. At the Minneapolis Convention Center approximately $90,000 was raised from the 360 people who paid for $100 or $1000 tickets to sip punch and savor pastries at a two-tiered fundraiser for the Governor. One of those people was travel agent Maggie Dolan, who has never donated to a campaign before and secured a coveted spot on the receiving line. When Dean stopped before her, Dolan says she shook his hand and pleaded him not to quit. "He looked me right in the eye and he said, 'I am not going to give up'," recalls Dolan. "I'll vote for Atilla the Hun to get rid of Bush, but I don't want to vote for Kerry.'"
"Though his pile of chips may be dwindling, Dean is still receiving some backing. At the Minneapolis Convention Center approximately $90,000 was raised from the 360 people who paid for $100 or $1000 tickets to sip punch and savor pastries at a two-tiered fundraiser for the Governor. One of those people was travel agent Maggie Dolan, who has never donated to a campaign before and secured a coveted spot on the receiving line. When Dean stopped before her, Dolan says she shook his hand and pleaded him not to quit. "He looked me right in the eye and he said, 'I am not going to give up'," recalls Dolan. "I'll vote for Atilla the Hun to get rid of Bush, but I don't want to vote for Kerry.'"
Dear Undecided:
Me thinks you aren't REALLY undecided, are ye?
Irregardless of what any candidate does, this group of supporters votes with our minds and makes our own decisions. Some will go Green, some will fall in line, some will write Dean on the line and many will just go home. The beauty is that we are not sheeple but individuals.
My vote is my voice.
It will not be bought.
It will not be bartered for in some back room.
It will not be compromized.
My vote is my voice and it will be heard.
I vote for Howard Dean 2004.
Me thinks you aren't REALLY undecided, are ye?
Irregardless of what any candidate does, this group of supporters votes with our minds and makes our own decisions. Some will go Green, some will fall in line, some will write Dean on the line and many will just go home. The beauty is that we are not sheeple but individuals.
My vote is my voice.
It will not be bought.
It will not be bartered for in some back room.
It will not be compromized.
My vote is my voice and it will be heard.
I vote for Howard Dean 2004.
I saw that, the real kicker is the TITLE..
Unprincipled, Chapter 1
Chapter 1???
Are they going to have a whole book of commercials about how unprincipled Kerry is.. Seems to be the theme...
Unprincipled, Chapter 1
Chapter 1???
Are they going to have a whole book of commercials about how unprincipled Kerry is.. Seems to be the theme...
Undecided: no, you're not. And neither are we.
We want to beat Kerry for the nomination. Why? Ask the question this way:
If an obviously drunk, overgrown frat boy showed up at your house, slurring his speech and making wild claims about the necessity to get to the other side of town for a a big kegger ... would you hand him your car keys? Kerry did. So did Edwards. That's not the kind of judgement I want in the Oval Office.
Young men die because old men make errors in judgement, but I guess John didn't watch any of his old footage before he let slip the dogs of war. Pity.
TURN OUR CANDIDATE LOOSE on the enemy. Yes, I call him the enemy. Both of the hypocrits from Washington are the enemy right now. The press can only call what you say an attack if you don't get out in front of they language.
"Kerry's people and the pundits will call it an attack, but the American people should know the truth before it's too late."
AND THEN LAY JOHN KERRY OPEN LIKE A FAT TROUT. Get in front of the accusation that it's negative. The truth is not now, nor has it ever been negative ... the truth will set you free, Governor.
"If John Kerry doesn't like what I'm saying, then he should have made different choices about how he financed and ran his campaign. I'm proud of the way we've run Dean for America. I wonder if Mr. Kerry is proud of the push polling, robocalling and other dirty tricks and dirty money he's used to take the lead in this nominating process?" CNN would run that soundbite 638 times, too!
Tell anyone who will listen that is was "Howard Dean who had the guts to shine a bright light on the lies and hypocracy of the Bush administration ... and John Kerry is nothing but a mere shadow of the politics of Washington."
Governor, follow your heart and follow your hero, Harry Truman, who reminds you from long ago campaigns: "You want a friend in Washington? Get a dog."
We want to beat Kerry for the nomination. Why? Ask the question this way:
If an obviously drunk, overgrown frat boy showed up at your house, slurring his speech and making wild claims about the necessity to get to the other side of town for a a big kegger ... would you hand him your car keys? Kerry did. So did Edwards. That's not the kind of judgement I want in the Oval Office.
Young men die because old men make errors in judgement, but I guess John didn't watch any of his old footage before he let slip the dogs of war. Pity.
TURN OUR CANDIDATE LOOSE on the enemy. Yes, I call him the enemy. Both of the hypocrits from Washington are the enemy right now. The press can only call what you say an attack if you don't get out in front of they language.
"Kerry's people and the pundits will call it an attack, but the American people should know the truth before it's too late."
AND THEN LAY JOHN KERRY OPEN LIKE A FAT TROUT. Get in front of the accusation that it's negative. The truth is not now, nor has it ever been negative ... the truth will set you free, Governor.
"If John Kerry doesn't like what I'm saying, then he should have made different choices about how he financed and ran his campaign. I'm proud of the way we've run Dean for America. I wonder if Mr. Kerry is proud of the push polling, robocalling and other dirty tricks and dirty money he's used to take the lead in this nominating process?" CNN would run that soundbite 638 times, too!
Tell anyone who will listen that is was "Howard Dean who had the guts to shine a bright light on the lies and hypocracy of the Bush administration ... and John Kerry is nothing but a mere shadow of the politics of Washington."
Governor, follow your heart and follow your hero, Harry Truman, who reminds you from long ago campaigns: "You want a friend in Washington? Get a dog."
David W in Wiscsin, who is Keith Schmitz. If you want to donate to the Dean campaign, an alternative place to donate $$$ is truthandhope.org, for radio ads in different parts of the country.
Undecided,
What are you going to say when Kerry endorses Dean?
What are you going to say when Kerry endorses Dean?
Dated Dean
Married Kerry
Woke up next to Bush!
Trolls - go home. Your campaign needs you (especially now). Bye bye.
Married Kerry
Woke up next to Bush!
Trolls - go home. Your campaign needs you (especially now). Bye bye.
Counter-programming for trolls:
By Ross Sneyd/Associated Press
The former Vermont governor is tirelessly crisscrossing Wisconsin with a mix of events, ranging from the town-hall meeting of roughly 100 people in Oshkosh to his tour of a free clinic for the uninsured at the university.
Dean stopped at the student union before heading downtown, hopping up on a ledge and urging people to follow him to the theater. "Come on down and we'll raise some Cain," he said....
"I want you to know how strongly I believe he's the best candidate in this race," Judy Dean told people attending [one] meeting.
By Ross Sneyd/Associated Press
The former Vermont governor is tirelessly crisscrossing Wisconsin with a mix of events, ranging from the town-hall meeting of roughly 100 people in Oshkosh to his tour of a free clinic for the uninsured at the university.
Dean stopped at the student union before heading downtown, hopping up on a ledge and urging people to follow him to the theater. "Come on down and we'll raise some Cain," he said....
"I want you to know how strongly I believe he's the best candidate in this race," Judy Dean told people attending [one] meeting.
The Dean supporters in Baltimore Maryland will be phonebanking and having a postcard party trying to get out the vote for Dean in our region and state. We will be having pizza, beer and music but no more U2 "Beautiful Day" Just for Kerry ruined that song forever for me
Kerry will never be Howard Dean
Kerry will never be Howard Dean
Dated Dean
Married Kerry
He cheated on me with an intern so I dumped him for the internist.
Brilliant!!!
Married Kerry
He cheated on me with an intern so I dumped him for the internist.
Brilliant!!!
*** repost ***
recent post: It's our message that has be usurped, and the media knows it. Make sure they tell everyone that we are the leaders, and their candidate stole our messages and they played it to the hilt.
my response: anyone else infuriated by the recent DNC "Take Back America" email??? talk about adding insult to injury! why i oughtta ... and i will dang it. if there was a bat, i'd hit it. in fact, i'll donate anyway but i'd love for Deanster to get the media attention of a new bat that turns redder than a valentine between now and tomorrow.
GO DEAN! do NOT give up! it's rightfully yours, you gave the message life and meaning. don't let the DNC or any other dean-lite knuckleheads deter you!
recent post: It's our message that has be usurped, and the media knows it. Make sure they tell everyone that we are the leaders, and their candidate stole our messages and they played it to the hilt.
my response: anyone else infuriated by the recent DNC "Take Back America" email??? talk about adding insult to injury! why i oughtta ... and i will dang it. if there was a bat, i'd hit it. in fact, i'll donate anyway but i'd love for Deanster to get the media attention of a new bat that turns redder than a valentine between now and tomorrow.
GO DEAN! do NOT give up! it's rightfully yours, you gave the message life and meaning. don't let the DNC or any other dean-lite knuckleheads deter you!
Ni, I respect that. I was a Clark supporter and that's over. I initially felt betrayed by Clark b/c he endorsed Kerry --- after we spent weeks on the blog demonizing Kerry -- LOL -- but it's just Politics, as usual.
And it'll happen here too.
Kerry bores me, but he's better than Bush, and that seems to be enough this election cycle. Go Figure!
And it'll happen here too.
Kerry bores me, but he's better than Bush, and that seems to be enough this election cycle. Go Figure!
This is really funny. The Kerry story has broken on the front pages of the websites of (just to name a few): La Repubblica (Italy, www.repubblica.it), El Mundo (Spain, www.elmundo.es), Corriere della Sera (Italy, www.corriere.it), Die Welt (Germany, www.welt.de), The Irish Examiner (www.irishexaminer.com), and The Australian (www.theaustralian.news.com.au). But NOTHING in the States. Incredible.
Hey Undecided, if Dean loses Wisconsin and decides to endorse Kerry, that's his choice and we'll all cross that bridge when it comes.
I personally wouldn't vote for a Kerry ticket unless it included Dean as the VP.
From the looks of recent events, it looks like chances of that are about a million to nothing. So that may change, but right now the chances of me voting for Kerry in November are...
A MILLION TO NOTHING.
I personally wouldn't vote for a Kerry ticket unless it included Dean as the VP.
From the looks of recent events, it looks like chances of that are about a million to nothing. So that may change, but right now the chances of me voting for Kerry in November are...
A MILLION TO NOTHING.
Renee in Ohio:
What a Hunk! Unbelievable. Great Picture.
What a good looking young man - I think he is still good looking, and sexy!
What a Hunk! Unbelievable. Great Picture.
What a good looking young man - I think he is still good looking, and sexy!
"The reason we NEED Howard Dean is the same reason My 2 year old needs a new diaper.
..this country is full of SH|T!"
LOL! Well put, Jason.
..this country is full of SH|T!"
LOL! Well put, Jason.
I think I'm getting punchy. Suddenly, everything about this race is making me giggle. But Mickey Kaus's account of Senator Leadership's latest rubber policy had me doubled over with laughter:
"Kerry announces wrong Middle East envoys by mistake: Senator Kerry has apparently backed down from his announcement in December that he might appoint Jimmy Carter or James Baker as Middle East envoy. According to the Forward,
New York Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver said Kerry told him that he never intended to name the men in the speech, and that Kerry had blamed the insertion of the names on a staff mistake. ...
In a conference call with reporters last Friday, Silver said, "I spoke to him about that very issue, saying that was not something that was going to be very popular in the Jewish community. John Kerry assured me that neither Jimmy Carter nor Baker would be his choice."
My eyes are watering. I have to go out for some fresh air.
"Kerry announces wrong Middle East envoys by mistake: Senator Kerry has apparently backed down from his announcement in December that he might appoint Jimmy Carter or James Baker as Middle East envoy. According to the Forward,
New York Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver said Kerry told him that he never intended to name the men in the speech, and that Kerry had blamed the insertion of the names on a staff mistake. ...
In a conference call with reporters last Friday, Silver said, "I spoke to him about that very issue, saying that was not something that was going to be very popular in the Jewish community. John Kerry assured me that neither Jimmy Carter nor Baker would be his choice."
My eyes are watering. I have to go out for some fresh air.
You know what? SCrew this.
I'm breaking negative HARD on this Kerry punk. There's no way I'll vote for him. OR bush for that matter as some have suggested. No way I'll support him. If lemmings are all over this country then Dammit, I'm going to stop and take a step to the side and watch the morons all walk off the cliff.
So be it. I don't care if he's a war "Hero" and from what I heard the guy he KILLED, let me say that again, THE MAN HE KILLED, had already been shot by hi gunner from the boat. PUNK!
This "People change", Bullsnot about his senate record... COME ON! You can't expect a sane person, and intelligent persoon to believe he's changed his mind on EVRY SINGLE VOTE IN WHICH HE SUPPORTED the SHRUB?! If he has, then again I say, COME ON!! How about a little foresight!
About this Intern thing, GOD HELP the girl, She actually had to touch the,..... PUKE, PUKE, GAG! PUKE!!!
Kerry is a troll. Kerry is not a War Hero, Kerry is the worst type of Democrat there is. He's a Republican.
Kerry SUCKS! I can't BELIEVE I Actually had faith in the AMerican People. They're a majority of VAstly out of shape incompetent morons who biggest interest is who's blowing who or if Janet was wearing Micahels Pasty ro not.
What has this country come to? What IS THAT in the Whitehouse? Is it a Man? A Monkey!
One thing for sure there is a village in Texas without an Idiot!
I guess it's true, "you'll never go broke underestimating the intellegence of the American Public."
Sad @ss excuse for a population. Whew,
That rant felt good.
These comments are strictly private property and do not represent the views of DFA or it's constituents. Any use, reproduction, or rebroadcast via any method is strictly forbidden and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Or in John Kerry's case "prostituted!"
I'm breaking negative HARD on this Kerry punk. There's no way I'll vote for him. OR bush for that matter as some have suggested. No way I'll support him. If lemmings are all over this country then Dammit, I'm going to stop and take a step to the side and watch the morons all walk off the cliff.
So be it. I don't care if he's a war "Hero" and from what I heard the guy he KILLED, let me say that again, THE MAN HE KILLED, had already been shot by hi gunner from the boat. PUNK!
This "People change", Bullsnot about his senate record... COME ON! You can't expect a sane person, and intelligent persoon to believe he's changed his mind on EVRY SINGLE VOTE IN WHICH HE SUPPORTED the SHRUB?! If he has, then again I say, COME ON!! How about a little foresight!
About this Intern thing, GOD HELP the girl, She actually had to touch the,..... PUKE, PUKE, GAG! PUKE!!!
Kerry is a troll. Kerry is not a War Hero, Kerry is the worst type of Democrat there is. He's a Republican.
Kerry SUCKS! I can't BELIEVE I Actually had faith in the AMerican People. They're a majority of VAstly out of shape incompetent morons who biggest interest is who's blowing who or if Janet was wearing Micahels Pasty ro not.
What has this country come to? What IS THAT in the Whitehouse? Is it a Man? A Monkey!
One thing for sure there is a village in Texas without an Idiot!
I guess it's true, "you'll never go broke underestimating the intellegence of the American Public."
Sad @ss excuse for a population. Whew,
That rant felt good.
These comments are strictly private property and do not represent the views of DFA or it's constituents. Any use, reproduction, or rebroadcast via any method is strictly forbidden and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Or in John Kerry's case "prostituted!"
***Repost***
ALL DEAN HAS TO DO IN WISCONSIN
IS WELL ENOUGH TO *STAY IN THE RACE.*
Even if Dean's showing is hit by cr*ppy media stampeding, unlike Edwards, we won't have to stop because fickle $2000 donors go away. Or because of spending caps. This time it's different. We're people-powered.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Some of us feel discouraged; the emotional power of the media is overwhelming. The media will say we're dead (again). But THERE WE'LL STILL BE--raising ungodly sums from small donations (again) like after Iowa and NH. The media will be amazed (again). They'll learn (again) that ordinary Americans don't give up once we've found a way to be HEARD. That we LOVE real democracy. That taking our country back is too important to quit. We won't stop working for Dean until the nomination is nailed.
WE have the power.
Once it's Kerry and Dean, they can't avoid covering Dean (though we'll have to dog the Media for predictably negative coverage, per CMPA statistics, etc.). And, WE WILL spread ads and videos that the Media can't filter--like at and or . WE WILL expand Meetups and visibility events and tabling. WE WILL do anything and everything we can think of!
Watch the gov's 6/23/03 Great American Restoration speech with people who haven't heard Dean. You'll still believe. Hang in!
Together, we and Dean can still win this.
Si, se puede!
ALL DEAN HAS TO DO IN WISCONSIN
IS WELL ENOUGH TO *STAY IN THE RACE.*
Even if Dean's showing is hit by cr*ppy media stampeding, unlike Edwards, we won't have to stop because fickle $2000 donors go away. Or because of spending caps. This time it's different. We're people-powered.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Some of us feel discouraged; the emotional power of the media is overwhelming. The media will say we're dead (again). But THERE WE'LL STILL BE--raising ungodly sums from small donations (again) like after Iowa and NH. The media will be amazed (again). They'll learn (again) that ordinary Americans don't give up once we've found a way to be HEARD. That we LOVE real democracy. That taking our country back is too important to quit. We won't stop working for Dean until the nomination is nailed.
WE have the power.
Once it's Kerry and Dean, they can't avoid covering Dean (though we'll have to dog the Media for predictably negative coverage, per CMPA statistics, etc.). And, WE WILL spread ads and videos that the Media can't filter--like at
Watch the gov's 6/23/03 Great American Restoration speech with people who haven't heard Dean. You'll still believe. Hang in!
Together, we and Dean can still win this.
Si, se puede!
If the US media is giving Kerry money and good press why would they want to break this story. It won't happen until they are forced to report on it.
Ni, I respect that. I was a Clark supporter and that's over. I initially felt betrayed by Clark b/c he endorsed Kerry --- after we spent weeks on the blog demonizing Kerry -- LOL -- but it's just Politics, as usual.
And it'll happen here too.
Kerry bores me, but he's better than Bush, and that seems to be enough this election cycle. Go Figure!
Posted by Undecided at February 13, 2004 04:15 PM
Well, that speaks volumns about your character. Why don't you find your kindred spirits over at the Kerry blog. Then you can spend all of your time demonizing Dean supporters.
And it'll happen here too.
Kerry bores me, but he's better than Bush, and that seems to be enough this election cycle. Go Figure!
Posted by Undecided at February 13, 2004 04:15 PM
Well, that speaks volumns about your character. Why don't you find your kindred spirits over at the Kerry blog. Then you can spend all of your time demonizing Dean supporters.
Undecided: Dean said long ago that he would support the eventual nominee. I do expect that he will also do that, if he is not nominated. It is always hard for supporters to understand that this is what is usually done in campaigns.
However, supporters do not have to follow. I fully expected that Clark's folks would go to Kerry, Dean or Edwards depending on what their pressing issues were/ I know we got four new folks into our group this week who were for Clark, and they said the same thing - they split based on what their key issues were. I respect that.
Kerry has a lot of baggage, and I just hope that there are some candidates left standing if he takes the big fall. Whoever is standing needs to be very strong against Bush.
However, supporters do not have to follow. I fully expected that Clark's folks would go to Kerry, Dean or Edwards depending on what their pressing issues were/ I know we got four new folks into our group this week who were for Clark, and they said the same thing - they split based on what their key issues were. I respect that.
Kerry has a lot of baggage, and I just hope that there are some candidates left standing if he takes the big fall. Whoever is standing needs to be very strong against Bush.
What am I doing for democracy this weekend? Going to Wisconsin with fellow blogger Marla in Texas. I know there will be other bloggers there as well - Charlie Grapski and Donna in Evanston for sure. I hope to meet more of you.
In our absence, Austin will be doing Dean visibility along the route of the Motorola Marathon. Austin is Dean Country!
In our absence, Austin will be doing Dean visibility along the route of the Motorola Marathon. Austin is Dean Country!
Posted by TK from PA at February 13, 2004 04:15 PM<<
There is no Kerry story. THERE IS A REPORT by Matt Drudge (I almost have to take a bath mentioning his name).
Do you believe right wing propagandist? Robert
There is no Kerry story. THERE IS A REPORT by Matt Drudge (I almost have to take a bath mentioning his name).
Do you believe right wing propagandist? Robert
If you haven't read the Dean Rapid Response Network action item for Thursday check it out:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DeanRR/message/209
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DeanRR/message/209
Jason in Chicago: Thanks for the rant. I feel better now.
So who may you ask has been behind all these negative attack ads on Dean, Kerry, Edwards and such?
Why it's none other that Hilary Clinton!
See she is trying to make sure that either she is drafted by the DNC like Joan of Arc or that Bush wins in 04 which would open the door for her to run in 08. ---- Dick Morris.
Gotta love the boys at Fox News mention Clinton and the go spastic.
Why it's none other that Hilary Clinton!
See she is trying to make sure that either she is drafted by the DNC like Joan of Arc or that Bush wins in 04 which would open the door for her to run in 08. ---- Dick Morris.
Gotta love the boys at Fox News mention Clinton and the go spastic.
I do not want Dean to endorse Kerry. It's one thing to support the nominee, but it's another thing entirely to endorse him.
YO!
Washington TIMES FINALLY!!!
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040213-113151-1455r.htm
Washington TIMES FINALLY!!!
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040213-113151-1455r.htm
Well,
Cnn raised the dirty kerry story;
So did msnbc Imus this morning;
And so did C-Span this morning - they even took phone calls for the first 1/2 hour!
Cnn raised the dirty kerry story;
So did msnbc Imus this morning;
And so did C-Span this morning - they even took phone calls for the first 1/2 hour!
"David W in Wiscsin, who is Keith Schmitz. If you want to donate to the Dean campaign, an alternative place to donate $$$ is truthandhope.org, for radio ads in different parts of the country.
Posted by winin2004 at February 13, 2004 04:11 PM"
I'm not in Wisconsin (yet - I will be there Saturday until Monday); Keith is in Wisconsin. His cause is explained above at the post "Posted by geri in no va at February 13, 2004 04:00 PM" above in this thread.
I am a regular to this blog and am well familiar with the wonderful work by truthandhope.org. I have already donated a LOT of money for ads for WA, ME, MI, DC, NV, and WI. I will also donate for radio in ID, HI, and UT, if those go up soon. I'll donate to the Super Tuesday states after that.
Thank you for posting the info anyway! :)
Posted by winin2004 at February 13, 2004 04:11 PM"
I'm not in Wisconsin (yet - I will be there Saturday until Monday); Keith is in Wisconsin. His cause is explained above at the post "Posted by geri in no va at February 13, 2004 04:00 PM" above in this thread.
I am a regular to this blog and am well familiar with the wonderful work by truthandhope.org. I have already donated a LOT of money for ads for WA, ME, MI, DC, NV, and WI. I will also donate for radio in ID, HI, and UT, if those go up soon. I'll donate to the Super Tuesday states after that.
Thank you for posting the info anyway! :)
Both Dean and Clark were cool candidates; the rest are same old/same old. Both campaigns tried their best. The difference is there are more Deaniacs funding him than there ever were Clarkies, and Dean's still standing.
wow the story about the baby and is diaper is right on. exactly how I feel.
Yahoo has a story about Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, possibly being considered as a running mate for Kerry if he is nominated.
Was this part of the problem in Iowa? Did Vilsack have a lot to do behind the scenes with the outcome there? We will never know that of course.
Tom Harkin is promoting the Vilsack idea like Dean is Dead or something. What a squarehead he is turning out to be.
BTW I wrote an email to Tom Harkin last night about the rumor that he was going to withdraw his endorsement of Dean. I gave him my "opinion" of such a move. Harkin it turns out is just another of the Wash. Insiders looking for a free ride. He jumped onto the Dean wagon when Dean was flying high, jumps off when he's down. God help America! There are few leaders among us, except for Dean.
Go Doc
Was this part of the problem in Iowa? Did Vilsack have a lot to do behind the scenes with the outcome there? We will never know that of course.
Tom Harkin is promoting the Vilsack idea like Dean is Dead or something. What a squarehead he is turning out to be.
BTW I wrote an email to Tom Harkin last night about the rumor that he was going to withdraw his endorsement of Dean. I gave him my "opinion" of such a move. Harkin it turns out is just another of the Wash. Insiders looking for a free ride. He jumped onto the Dean wagon when Dean was flying high, jumps off when he's down. God help America! There are few leaders among us, except for Dean.
Go Doc
Here is a nice Assoc. Press article on Iowans volunteering this weekedn in Wisconsin. God bless them.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/7949109.htm
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/7949109.htm
I said it last night, and the day before and the day before: Ignore Edwards at your peril. YOU may think he's not a threat, but you'd be wrong. All this negative campaigning between Dean and Kerry and Edwards is just sitting there being the 'nice' guy. If Kerry implodes, who do you think the DNC, the media and even the RNC are going to get behind? It won't be Dean.
Get prepared people and get informed. You only think Edwards is out of money. The man is worth a fortune and he's already spent (under the radar) way more than matching funds allow (I'm still looking from the article about it, but I read while in NH)
I live in NC, the man has been our senator for a few years now. We know how he got there (money) and we know what he's done since arriving (nothing). Dean will NOT have a clear field if Kerry drops out, so don't get complacent. Keep positive, keep focused and know your talking points.
Get prepared people and get informed. You only think Edwards is out of money. The man is worth a fortune and he's already spent (under the radar) way more than matching funds allow (I'm still looking from the article about it, but I read while in NH)
I live in NC, the man has been our senator for a few years now. We know how he got there (money) and we know what he's done since arriving (nothing). Dean will NOT have a clear field if Kerry drops out, so don't get complacent. Keep positive, keep focused and know your talking points.
Sacramento for Dean volunteers have indomitable spirit! One year ago you started gathering to talk about a little known Governor from Vermont with a big message. "Shame" on the business as usual Democrats. With each Meetup for Dean and his message your desires became your passion and your passion became action. Little has changed in that time. With every call for help to further the message of Howard Dean you have come out in unprecedented numbers. Still little has changed. With almost 3000 calls completed to Sacramentans for Dean this week, 99% of those committed to Howard Dean remain steadfast in that committment.
The only thing that has changed is the media portrayal of the Dean campaign. Howard Dean's message has not changed and his bid for the Democratic nomination is very much intact and on it's way to California!
Relatively few delegates have been selected up to this point and you can make a difference in the perceptions of the general public because you still have the power to effect change.
How you can help this week:
The Valentines Day Rally for Dean Saturday February 14th, will begin at 10:30-11:30.at Howe and Fair Oaks Coming from I-80 you will drive south on Howe Avenue go thru the light at Howe and Fair Oaks...look to the left you'll see a Starbucks and a Safeway. Park near the Starbucks. From I-50 you'll drive North on Power Inn Road. Before you reach Fair Oaks Blvd you'll see Safeway and Starbucks on the right. (If you reach Fair Oaks you've gone too far!). Park near the Starbucks.
We will proceed to the four corners of Howe and Fair Oaks. Please bring your Dean signs etc.
Get ready for a great time while creating more visibility for Howard Dean!
Remeber we are phone banking this week and next. Please look at www.sacramentoforDean for details.
As always. You are the best volunteers in modern history!
The only thing that has changed is the media portrayal of the Dean campaign. Howard Dean's message has not changed and his bid for the Democratic nomination is very much intact and on it's way to California!
Relatively few delegates have been selected up to this point and you can make a difference in the perceptions of the general public because you still have the power to effect change.
How you can help this week:
The Valentines Day Rally for Dean Saturday February 14th, will begin at 10:30-11:30.at Howe and Fair Oaks Coming from I-80 you will drive south on Howe Avenue go thru the light at Howe and Fair Oaks...look to the left you'll see a Starbucks and a Safeway. Park near the Starbucks. From I-50 you'll drive North on Power Inn Road. Before you reach Fair Oaks Blvd you'll see Safeway and Starbucks on the right. (If you reach Fair Oaks you've gone too far!). Park near the Starbucks.
We will proceed to the four corners of Howe and Fair Oaks. Please bring your Dean signs etc.
Get ready for a great time while creating more visibility for Howard Dean!
Remeber we are phone banking this week and next. Please look at www.sacramentoforDean for details.
As always. You are the best volunteers in modern history!
Hey undecided,
I don't think Kerry's "settlers" (not supporters!) hate us since most of them are "flounders" and I really don't think flounders are emotionally or/and intellectually DEEP enough to feel or hate or be passionate for certain reasons or issues. I wonder how many of them really studied in detailed their favorite candidate's policies, past records, the accomplishments for the people in his political life, etc. etc. (Why waste time? Just pick the one the media decides for me, right?)
If Clinton endorse Edward tomorrow, for example, I think these settlers will flounder again. I guess that is the reality.
I don't think Kerry's "settlers" (not supporters!) hate us since most of them are "flounders" and I really don't think flounders are emotionally or/and intellectually DEEP enough to feel or hate or be passionate for certain reasons or issues. I wonder how many of them really studied in detailed their favorite candidate's policies, past records, the accomplishments for the people in his political life, etc. etc. (Why waste time? Just pick the one the media decides for me, right?)
If Clinton endorse Edward tomorrow, for example, I think these settlers will flounder again. I guess that is the reality.
What does WOOT mean anyway?
Posted by gordoncitizen at February 13, 2004 03:34 PM
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Gordon: I have often wondered that myself. So far, no answers.
Come on posters, what DOES WOOT mean????????? Sounds like the owls in my backyard.
Posted by gordoncitizen at February 13, 2004 03:34 PM
**********************
Gordon: I have often wondered that myself. So far, no answers.
Come on posters, what DOES WOOT mean????????? Sounds like the owls in my backyard.
Yes. I'm heading hard right negative on ol' Kerry as well.
He needs to go down in flames now and NOT...I repeat...NOT during the general elections. Its time to get rid of the vulnerable candidates, and Kerry, it appears, is VERY VERY vulnerable.
He needs to go down in flames now and NOT...I repeat...NOT during the general elections. Its time to get rid of the vulnerable candidates, and Kerry, it appears, is VERY VERY vulnerable.
For Mr. Oler's melancholy...
Dean touts his health-care record
Scott Milfred
Wisconsin State Journal newspaper
Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean [spoke at]...a rally that attracted about 1,000 people, mostly students, on the UW-Madison campus.
"If you want health insurance as part of your fabric of life in America, you ought to vote for the doctor who did it."
Dean's visit was his third to Madison in little more than a week as he aims for an upset Tuesday in the independent-minded Badger State.
"Wisconsin likes people who stand up for what they believe in," he told the students.
Dean touts his health-care record
Scott Milfred
Wisconsin State Journal newspaper
Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean [spoke at]...a rally that attracted about 1,000 people, mostly students, on the UW-Madison campus.
"If you want health insurance as part of your fabric of life in America, you ought to vote for the doctor who did it."
Dean's visit was his third to Madison in little more than a week as he aims for an upset Tuesday in the independent-minded Badger State.
"Wisconsin likes people who stand up for what they believe in," he told the students.
I am Canadian, and I just donated to TruthandHope http://truthandhope.blogspot.com/ . We in Canada watched with horror when George Bush led Americans madly into the invasion of Iraq. More than 10,000 Iraqis have died and tens of thousands have been maimed. We don't know the numbers because the American army of occupation does not count civilian casualties. I support Howard Dean because John Kerry did not lead when it would have made a difference.
Please continue doing what you can for your candidate.
I have given twice before to foreign political campaigns: the first time to bring down Ian Smith's rule in Rhodesia, and the second to throw out Pinochet in Chile. The truth will prevail.
Bush and his party friends have trashed the neighbourhood - I can't wait for Howard Dean to move in.
Go Dean go.
Please continue doing what you can for your candidate.
I have given twice before to foreign political campaigns: the first time to bring down Ian Smith's rule in Rhodesia, and the second to throw out Pinochet in Chile. The truth will prevail.
Bush and his party friends have trashed the neighbourhood - I can't wait for Howard Dean to move in.
Go Dean go.
There is no Kerry story. THERE IS A REPORT by Matt Drudge (I almost have to take a bath mentioning his name).
Do you believe right wing propagandist? Robert
Posted by Robert Oler at February 13, 2004 04:20 PM
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Robert. Ya know I luv you even when the others are busy excorciating you, but in this instance THERE'S A STORY.
The RW press is picking the story up; more circumspect outlets are confirming right now. This will ferment over the weekend and explode just in time for Sunday's edition.
This was leaked by folks who have this sort of thing down to a science. It's sleezy and filthy, just like Drudge himself, but it has legs.
My .02
Do you believe right wing propagandist? Robert
Posted by Robert Oler at February 13, 2004 04:20 PM
---
Robert. Ya know I luv you even when the others are busy excorciating you, but in this instance THERE'S A STORY.
The RW press is picking the story up; more circumspect outlets are confirming right now. This will ferment over the weekend and explode just in time for Sunday's edition.
This was leaked by folks who have this sort of thing down to a science. It's sleezy and filthy, just like Drudge himself, but it has legs.
My .02
I want to add a little perspective here. It's the little things people.
I wear a Dean button wherever I go. Today I got two comments on it. One was from a grocery store checkout person--an elderly woman--who said she used to be a Dean person, but (with an uncomfortable/resigned look on her face) was going to vote for Kerry. She didn't think Dean was electable. She was working, so I handed her a flyer and told her to go to deanforamerica.com.
After that, I was on the bus. The driver saw my button and asked if I was going to be voting for Dean. I said I sure was because he's our best chance and asked if he was going to vote for Dean also. He said yes.
My point? While it's nice if you can, you don't have to spend an afternoon standing on a street corner to do something for the campaign if you don't have the time. It doesn't even have to cost a lot.
That said...what am I doing this weekend?
I'm going to a mega-visibility event tomorrow, a peace vigil on Sunday, and a houseparty on Monday. I think I'm going to be activisted-out by the end of the weekend. :-)
Doug.
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040213-113151-1455r.htm
Also Friday the Chicago Sun-Times reported former Vice President Al Gore knew about the allegations, which was why he endorsed former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean instead of Kerry.
Also Friday the Chicago Sun-Times reported former Vice President Al Gore knew about the allegations, which was why he endorsed former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean instead of Kerry.
There's a probably scam going on...
This morning, my mother received a phone call from a woman claiming to be from the Kerry campaign. She thanked my mother for making a generous pledge on Kerry's website, and said she was calling to make payment arrangements. My mom is 70 years old, but she's as much of a Deaniac as I am. She firmly told this woman that she has NEVER been to Kerry's web site and never would. She said she was unalterably opposed to Kerry and would never support him financially or otherwise! She told this woman that she was a Dean supporter and intended to support him all the way to the end. God bless my dear old mom!
The caller stumbled and scrambled for something to say. She mentioned something about Kerry having won 12 states already. Without missing a beat, my mom said "He's won 12 states out of 50. It's far from over yet." The woman gave up and ended the call.
I doubt this woman was really from the Kerry camp. I'm not aware of any candidate gathering "pledges" on their web sites. All of them are doing what we're doing and having links to pay by credit card right on the site. I think this was probably a scam. Unfortunately, the Caller ID info just said "Out of area" so there's no way we can track down whoever was behind this.
Has anyone else heard about anything like this happening? I saw that someone else mentioned something about getting an e-mail from a Kevin Schmidt or some such telling him to contact some company to fulfill his pledge, and that set off a red flag.
This morning, my mother received a phone call from a woman claiming to be from the Kerry campaign. She thanked my mother for making a generous pledge on Kerry's website, and said she was calling to make payment arrangements. My mom is 70 years old, but she's as much of a Deaniac as I am. She firmly told this woman that she has NEVER been to Kerry's web site and never would. She said she was unalterably opposed to Kerry and would never support him financially or otherwise! She told this woman that she was a Dean supporter and intended to support him all the way to the end. God bless my dear old mom!
The caller stumbled and scrambled for something to say. She mentioned something about Kerry having won 12 states already. Without missing a beat, my mom said "He's won 12 states out of 50. It's far from over yet." The woman gave up and ended the call.
I doubt this woman was really from the Kerry camp. I'm not aware of any candidate gathering "pledges" on their web sites. All of them are doing what we're doing and having links to pay by credit card right on the site. I think this was probably a scam. Unfortunately, the Caller ID info just said "Out of area" so there's no way we can track down whoever was behind this.
Has anyone else heard about anything like this happening? I saw that someone else mentioned something about getting an e-mail from a Kevin Schmidt or some such telling him to contact some company to fulfill his pledge, and that set off a red flag.
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It's old news........
You have confused us with people who care about polls.
It's old news........
You have confused us with people who care about polls.
enough validation for you Mr. Oler?
Now will you still back Kerry if this is swept under the rug?
Now will you still back Kerry if this is swept under the rug?
PLEASE SEND A POSTCARD TODAY FRIDAY THE 13th!!!
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My suggestion, just leave it at this. Mention Dean and you know you will be ignored.
Democratic National Committee
430 S. Capitol St. SE
Washington, DC 20003
My name is ________
I live in _________
My vote is my voice
I will not be silenced
My suggestion, just leave it at this. Mention Dean and you know you will be ignored.
Undecided:
I still think if somehow Dean can pull this out - which will be voters will really take a look at what Kerry is and not let the wool be pulled over their eyes, that Clark would be awesome on the team. Either as VP or as Colin's replacement. Wow - what a team that would be. They are the only two candidates whom I believe when they opened their mouths. And I know that if Dean survives, that you are correct, the money will flow in. It still is.
I think there was something going on with the quickness with which Clark surrendered, and I was also very dissapointed with him jumping so fast to Kerry's side.
We'll just have to see. While I would not volunteer my time or my money to another candidate, I will do in my heart what I think is best for my country in November.
Until then, my vote is my voice and it will be heard!
I still think if somehow Dean can pull this out - which will be voters will really take a look at what Kerry is and not let the wool be pulled over their eyes, that Clark would be awesome on the team. Either as VP or as Colin's replacement. Wow - what a team that would be. They are the only two candidates whom I believe when they opened their mouths. And I know that if Dean survives, that you are correct, the money will flow in. It still is.
I think there was something going on with the quickness with which Clark surrendered, and I was also very dissapointed with him jumping so fast to Kerry's side.
We'll just have to see. While I would not volunteer my time or my money to another candidate, I will do in my heart what I think is best for my country in November.
Until then, my vote is my voice and it will be heard!
THE TEA IS IN THE HARBOR!!!!
Ok, I know it is a silly thing but I just HAD to do it. I got one of those “you are preapproved” VISA bs things in the mail from….guess who???
THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY VISA PLATINUM CARD!!!
To help support the Democratic Party.
So, I took the return envelope (guess who pays for that),
put a Dean flyer in it (homemade of course, no assocaition with DFA) and sent it back.
I know the only person who will see it is the one who opens the envelope at the CC company, but it sure made me feel good!!!
Ok, I know it is a silly thing but I just HAD to do it. I got one of those “you are preapproved” VISA bs things in the mail from….guess who???
THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY VISA PLATINUM CARD!!!
To help support the Democratic Party.
So, I took the return envelope (guess who pays for that),
put a Dean flyer in it (homemade of course, no assocaition with DFA) and sent it back.
I know the only person who will see it is the one who opens the envelope at the CC company, but it sure made me feel good!!!
CNN Crossfire question "Is this going to be the dirtiest Presidential Campaign ever?"
I don't know, CNN, you tell me, how dirty do you plan to get?
I don't know, CNN, you tell me, how dirty do you plan to get?
This Thursday I am going to meet a fellow Dean supporter and go to my Legislative District's Democratic Party's monthly meeting.
Here' something to think about. Many of the Dean supporters in WA state have been inspired by Howard Dean to become active or more active in our local democratic party organizations.
What political new, forward-looking and hopeful political involvement has John Kerry inspired?
Here' something to think about. Many of the Dean supporters in WA state have been inspired by Howard Dean to become active or more active in our local democratic party organizations.
What political new, forward-looking and hopeful political involvement has John Kerry inspired?
Anyone who uses the Washington Times for a source deserves to be publicly flogged with wet noodles.
Can we get headquarters to ban that totally boring troll Undecided???? Geeeeeesh!!! He's not even a creative troll....just posts the same old stuff.
This is MY letter to Harkin, sent last evening.
Dear Senator Harkin:
The story is circulating that you are considering withdrawing your endorsement of Howard Dean. If that is so, I can only say that perhaps your endorsements are meaningless and worthless if they are so easily, without reason, withdrawn.
Howard Dean has done ABSOLUTE NOTHING to deserve such treatment. He is the only candidate left in the race who still has integrity, honest, good policy, experience and fortitude.
If you go forward with such a plan, then I will certainly give up on the entire U.S. government. I thought you had the same qualities as Dean, but maybe I was wrong.
Perhaps Gov. Dean is the only left who still has those qualities who is offering to run for President. If he fails, then nobody else will ever step forward who is not already of this mess we call the Washington beltway. If that happens, we are no better than a third world country at best.
Thank you.
Dear Senator Harkin:
The story is circulating that you are considering withdrawing your endorsement of Howard Dean. If that is so, I can only say that perhaps your endorsements are meaningless and worthless if they are so easily, without reason, withdrawn.
Howard Dean has done ABSOLUTE NOTHING to deserve such treatment. He is the only candidate left in the race who still has integrity, honest, good policy, experience and fortitude.
If you go forward with such a plan, then I will certainly give up on the entire U.S. government. I thought you had the same qualities as Dean, but maybe I was wrong.
Perhaps Gov. Dean is the only left who still has those qualities who is offering to run for President. If he fails, then nobody else will ever step forward who is not already of this mess we call the Washington beltway. If that happens, we are no better than a third world country at best.
Thank you.
Come on guys, personally I like him better the way he is now, gray and pricipled.Go Dean
sKerry cracks me up hollering about rolling back tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans - his wife is one of the wealthIEST and a republican. How can people listen to that blowhard without a barf bag?
Liz in Philly, I know, but we don't have any info that would enable the FTC to track the perpetrators down. Mom was unable to get a name or phone number, and there was no Caller ID information. If she had the info, you can bet my long-time activist agitator mother would pass it on! ;-)
gv_nyc: Where did you hear Tom Harkin is considering withdrawing his endorsement of Howard Dean?
Please tell me that it isn't true! That would be horrible. It's bad enough that that cr@ppy union withdrew their endorsement -- talk about fair-weather friends -- but please, no more!
I love Dean.
Please tell me that it isn't true! That would be horrible. It's bad enough that that cr@ppy union withdrew their endorsement -- talk about fair-weather friends -- but please, no more!
I love Dean.
Thank you Sara in Ca, we can use the help. Sorry about all this; we're trying to get this old ship under control as fast as we can.
Well dixychik...
It takes a Barf bag...or some Pepto! Take your pick!! I'm glad I'm not the only one getting sick from it....
It takes a Barf bag...or some Pepto! Take your pick!! I'm glad I'm not the only one getting sick from it....
Let's focus on the strong likelihood that -- what with Edwards's poor showing in the north and Kerry's recent media troubles -- Gov. Dean will be the only major candidate left standing by Super Tuesday.
Posted by Ron in Santa Cruz at February 13, 2004 04:11 PM
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Ron. Great idea...probably the game isnt going to be played like that. If the polls are correct and we come in with 11 percent or around there...like under 20 percent. Well its over.
There are a couple of realities that will set in.
First people will, if they havent already stop listening on the campaign trail. Most people dont watch the political news shows or Harball but more watch their local and national news. Problem is that they tune in and out. If we come in with under 20 we will effectivly have most of America "tune out". If you look at the results in VA and TN those states showed just really hard core support...we were polling better then that before NH when no one was "tuned in".
Second the national media will go away. Already the "names" have left the campaign, I imagine that the press contingent is fairly small. In Iowa we had the "names" as they were expecting a victory. MSNBC is down to its intern embeed. (Felix is a nice guy).
Third the money will dry up. There are people who havent maxed who will "give" but a real bad loss in WI will probably dry it up to just the real "core". Those are hard support but they are not enough to drive a national campaign that eats dollars like this one does.
Finally if we do that badly its just time to go. It is fairly clear from the numbers that in some sort of combination people are not listening, the campaign appears to still (from the reports of some there) have the same flaws it cranked along in Iowa with, and we need to get behind the nominee.
This is going to be a campaign in the General not for the faint. Bush doesnt have the facts behind him so he is going to drive his campaign negative, ugly, and personal. I WANT TO BEAT BUSH.
Those on this blog who are talking "acts of conscious" are just mouthing another word for "Burn the house down" and thats childish nonesense. As is a third party, or green, or not voting. Its all stuff by people who do not understand their responsibilities as citizens.
We should focus on Beating Bush. If we are creamed in WI its time to pitch tent with the nominee. Robert
Posted by Ron in Santa Cruz at February 13, 2004 04:11 PM
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Ron. Great idea...probably the game isnt going to be played like that. If the polls are correct and we come in with 11 percent or around there...like under 20 percent. Well its over.
There are a couple of realities that will set in.
First people will, if they havent already stop listening on the campaign trail. Most people dont watch the political news shows or Harball but more watch their local and national news. Problem is that they tune in and out. If we come in with under 20 we will effectivly have most of America "tune out". If you look at the results in VA and TN those states showed just really hard core support...we were polling better then that before NH when no one was "tuned in".
Second the national media will go away. Already the "names" have left the campaign, I imagine that the press contingent is fairly small. In Iowa we had the "names" as they were expecting a victory. MSNBC is down to its intern embeed. (Felix is a nice guy).
Third the money will dry up. There are people who havent maxed who will "give" but a real bad loss in WI will probably dry it up to just the real "core". Those are hard support but they are not enough to drive a national campaign that eats dollars like this one does.
Finally if we do that badly its just time to go. It is fairly clear from the numbers that in some sort of combination people are not listening, the campaign appears to still (from the reports of some there) have the same flaws it cranked along in Iowa with, and we need to get behind the nominee.
This is going to be a campaign in the General not for the faint. Bush doesnt have the facts behind him so he is going to drive his campaign negative, ugly, and personal. I WANT TO BEAT BUSH.
Those on this blog who are talking "acts of conscious" are just mouthing another word for "Burn the house down" and thats childish nonesense. As is a third party, or green, or not voting. Its all stuff by people who do not understand their responsibilities as citizens.
We should focus on Beating Bush. If we are creamed in WI its time to pitch tent with the nominee. Robert
d eugene smith in SD
Good corner, I used buy my liquor there when I was a grad Student at the U of A Cancer Center.
Wish I were there.
Good corner, I used buy my liquor there when I was a grad Student at the U of A Cancer Center.
Wish I were there.
Right now I'm making sleeves for the dozen or so Howard Dean Video CD's that I burned last night. Before that I painted a large Dean sign. We are going to coax our old station wagon up to Milwaukee tomorrow and walk/drive around town doing general visibility and handing out Howard Dean materials. It's sunny here in Chicago today so I hope that holds for tomorrow.
Oh, yeah - I'm not voting for Kerry.
Oh, yeah - I'm not voting for Kerry.
Did the woman identify herself as being with the Kerry campaign? That should be enough. This may have nothing to do with Kerry; it could just be some fraud outfit that got hold of a list. The FTC can take the story to a judge and get a trace on your Mom's calls. Give them the info; let them worry about the rest. If they've tried this on your Mom, you can bet their doing it to others right now.
Joan in Florida,
Where did you read that the Iowa Gov was being considered for VP?!?
That's an interesting tidbit. He had everything to do with Kerry's win in Iowa.
While we attempted to bring thousands of new voters out, Kerry (with Ted Kennedy's help) got the Governor of Iowa to endorse him through the gov's wife.
In a stand of strange unaniminty, the entire Iowan Democratic state delegation also endorsed Kerry. It was strange because Kerry was so far back in the polls and the race was supposedly between Gephardt and Dean.
I'm sure now that each of those reps' campaign coffers will receive an additional cushion from the DNC.
Why was their endorsement important?
In the caucuses, these Reps actually attend and speak at their local meetings. They're very influential and can harness the votes of key individuals in their region.
There were so many voters in Iowa who were undecided, but said that they were just going to go and 'see'.
So while we went after the masses, Kerry snuck in with a few favors from influential individuals.
That story sums-up to me why the Democratic party is so awful and out of touch with its electoral base.
Where did you read that the Iowa Gov was being considered for VP?!?
That's an interesting tidbit. He had everything to do with Kerry's win in Iowa.
While we attempted to bring thousands of new voters out, Kerry (with Ted Kennedy's help) got the Governor of Iowa to endorse him through the gov's wife.
In a stand of strange unaniminty, the entire Iowan Democratic state delegation also endorsed Kerry. It was strange because Kerry was so far back in the polls and the race was supposedly between Gephardt and Dean.
I'm sure now that each of those reps' campaign coffers will receive an additional cushion from the DNC.
Why was their endorsement important?
In the caucuses, these Reps actually attend and speak at their local meetings. They're very influential and can harness the votes of key individuals in their region.
There were so many voters in Iowa who were undecided, but said that they were just going to go and 'see'.
So while we went after the masses, Kerry snuck in with a few favors from influential individuals.
That story sums-up to me why the Democratic party is so awful and out of touch with its electoral base.
Sara in Canada,
Thank you. The eyes of the world are upon us and I am embarassed by what they see under this current administration. Howard Dean makes me proud to be an American again. I will always support him.
Thank you. The eyes of the world are upon us and I am embarassed by what they see under this current administration. Howard Dean makes me proud to be an American again. I will always support him.
In my Entertainment Weekly magazine this week there is a little blurb about the book sales of all the Dem nominees and how many they have sold.
(all books came out in Fall 2003 with the exception of Al Sharpton's which came out in 2002)
Through Feb 1.
1. Gov. Dean--20,000 copies
2. Gen. Wesley Clark--19,800 copies
3. Sen. John Edwars--7,200 copies
4. Rep. Dennis Kucinich--6,200 copies
5. Sen. John Kerry--3,800 copies
6. Rev. Al Sharpton--1,900 copies.
Just thought this was interesting...
(all books came out in Fall 2003 with the exception of Al Sharpton's which came out in 2002)
Through Feb 1.
1. Gov. Dean--20,000 copies
2. Gen. Wesley Clark--19,800 copies
3. Sen. John Edwars--7,200 copies
4. Rep. Dennis Kucinich--6,200 copies
5. Sen. John Kerry--3,800 copies
6. Rev. Al Sharpton--1,900 copies.
Just thought this was interesting...
Lizzy,
Here's the picture of young hot howard
http://www.crushiesfordean.com/photo-gallery.html
Heck, Howard is still hot right now!
Here's the picture of young hot howard
http://www.crushiesfordean.com/photo-gallery.html
Heck, Howard is still hot right now!
Click my name for a Valentine's Day bat.
Posted by Renee in Ohio at February 13, 2004 03:47 PM
DONE!!! you are too too funny!!!
thanks
Posted by Renee in Ohio at February 13, 2004 03:47 PM
DONE!!! you are too too funny!!!
thanks
"I don't think Kerry's "settlers" (not supporters!) hate us since most of them are "flounders" and I really don't think flounders are emotionally or/and intellectually DEEP enough to feel or hate or be passionate for certain reasons or issues."
I've been lurking on their blog, and man, they DO hate us! At least the Kerry bloggers do. I think a big reason for it is that they have TONS of trolls over there in Dean's name. Trolling is stupid and just hurts your candidate, which i think we all recognize--I would not be surprised in the least if these "Dean" trolls are really paid by the RNC to divide the party.
But to anyone out there who gets a kick out of trolling at the Kerry site: please don't do it! I have seen so many posts there saying something like, "I would never vote for Dean because his supporters [the trolls, I guess] are so vile and terrible" etc etc. Once in a while I post there, asking them not to judge Dean or his supporters on a handful of trolls. Some people there are quite gracious and agree, but others tell me to get back to my own "borg", as they call it. Well, I'd be bitter too if he was my candidate.
I've been lurking on their blog, and man, they DO hate us! At least the Kerry bloggers do. I think a big reason for it is that they have TONS of trolls over there in Dean's name. Trolling is stupid and just hurts your candidate, which i think we all recognize--I would not be surprised in the least if these "Dean" trolls are really paid by the RNC to divide the party.
But to anyone out there who gets a kick out of trolling at the Kerry site: please don't do it! I have seen so many posts there saying something like, "I would never vote for Dean because his supporters [the trolls, I guess] are so vile and terrible" etc etc. Once in a while I post there, asking them not to judge Dean or his supporters on a handful of trolls. Some people there are quite gracious and agree, but others tell me to get back to my own "borg", as they call it. Well, I'd be bitter too if he was my candidate.
Dem4Dean, if this story had twelve endorsers, there would be a very familiar ring to it.
Please, do not say Kerry is a republican. It is an insult to all the decent republicans in this country.
gv-nyc
what were the c-span calls like?
Posted by MNDee at February 13, 2004 04:25 PM
MNDee:
It was the usual format where they take alternate calls from Democrats and Republicans, and most republicans of course thought it should be made a big deal of. Some Democrats agreed too, but most didn't.
what were the c-span calls like?
Posted by MNDee at February 13, 2004 04:25 PM
MNDee:
It was the usual format where they take alternate calls from Democrats and Republicans, and most republicans of course thought it should be made a big deal of. Some Democrats agreed too, but most didn't.
Lizzie--
See Renee in Ohio's post right near the top of this thread (4th or 5th post) for the link to the HOT HOWARD. Just thinking about that pic makes me drool . . . : )
See Renee in Ohio's post right near the top of this thread (4th or 5th post) for the link to the HOT HOWARD. Just thinking about that pic makes me drool . . . : )
oh my!!!
(let's get some of those young Howard Pictures out there... he'll get all the ladies votes!)
wow...
He was a hottie... and is still good looking man,
but damn! Judy is one lucky lady... a guy like that, with his principles...
Howard Dean for President!
(let's get some of those young Howard Pictures out there... he'll get all the ladies votes!)
wow...
He was a hottie... and is still good looking man,
but damn! Judy is one lucky lady... a guy like that, with his principles...
Howard Dean for President!
"CNN Crossfire question "Is this going to be the dirtiest Presidential Campaign ever?""
jc at February 13, 2004 04:31 PM
We may be misunderstandulating what this means.
Whenever a Republican is criticized in the same terms they discuss liberals,
all the think-tanks and Republican officials simultaneously begin using
the word "dirty" in all their communication.
So by definition yes, this is going to be a "dirty" campaign.
But it has nothing to do with what goes on between or towards Democratic
candidates.
jc at February 13, 2004 04:31 PM
We may be misunderstandulating what this means.
Whenever a Republican is criticized in the same terms they discuss liberals,
all the think-tanks and Republican officials simultaneously begin using
the word "dirty" in all their communication.
So by definition yes, this is going to be a "dirty" campaign.
But it has nothing to do with what goes on between or towards Democratic
candidates.
For those urging us to support Kerry.
I hadn't known enough about him to hate him - just found him totally uninspiring. Until I accidentally stumbled into his Oklahoma speech on C-Span. He stole Dean's message line for line, when Dean wasn't actively campaigning in that state.
It immediately rang alarm bells in my head that this is not a person of honour and integrity. So I paid even more attention to his 'character', and the web ad the RNC released today was exactly what occurred to me last night as one of his most glaring vulnerabilities. Of course, he knows it as well and he's stopped using that line after the Feb 2nd primaries.
The thing is, I believe Kerry has no chance to beat Bush in November. His character weaknesses are too numerous and too easy to expose. The fact that they haven't surfaced yet is because the rivals have been quite careful not to be negative. Bush won't have that restraint in the general election.
So, I can't switch to Kerry, because that'll just mean a Bush landslide when the time comes.
Dean's the only one. He has a track record of delivering. His sincerity, honour, integrity, and courage will shine through when the bandwagon effect has subsided.
I hadn't known enough about him to hate him - just found him totally uninspiring. Until I accidentally stumbled into his Oklahoma speech on C-Span. He stole Dean's message line for line, when Dean wasn't actively campaigning in that state.
It immediately rang alarm bells in my head that this is not a person of honour and integrity. So I paid even more attention to his 'character', and the web ad the RNC released today was exactly what occurred to me last night as one of his most glaring vulnerabilities. Of course, he knows it as well and he's stopped using that line after the Feb 2nd primaries.
The thing is, I believe Kerry has no chance to beat Bush in November. His character weaknesses are too numerous and too easy to expose. The fact that they haven't surfaced yet is because the rivals have been quite careful not to be negative. Bush won't have that restraint in the general election.
So, I can't switch to Kerry, because that'll just mean a Bush landslide when the time comes.
Dean's the only one. He has a track record of delivering. His sincerity, honour, integrity, and courage will shine through when the bandwagon effect has subsided.
I am the son of a millworker. I have voted for Governor Dean. Just proves that a son of a millworker can vote for a man that can beat the son of a president.
Robert Oler-
It seems that every day I ask you in the most considerate terms, what you get out of hanging out here with us. I haven't had a response yet.
You spend a lot of time here. You are disappointed by many many aspects of the campaign and its stumbles. You have a foot outside the door already. This is why you are getting tagged as a Kerry troll.
I have defended your right to be here, but I am wondering what is in it for you, or for ... ?
It seems that every day I ask you in the most considerate terms, what you get out of hanging out here with us. I haven't had a response yet.
You spend a lot of time here. You are disappointed by many many aspects of the campaign and its stumbles. You have a foot outside the door already. This is why you are getting tagged as a Kerry troll.
I have defended your right to be here, but I am wondering what is in it for you, or for ... ?
If Howard Dean doesn't get his motor-mouth under control, he will be just as destructive to all of us as Ralph Nader was in 2000. I'm running to be a delegate to the 2004 convention in Boston and I'm not going to behave like a sore loser if I don't win. Maybe I can teach Dean a thing or two about losing with grace.
Posted by Loyal Democrat at February 13, 2004 04:13 PM
****************************** Ha, guess what...
You know what, Howard Dean speaks for all of us, and he speaks the truth.
To most of us Kerry is Bush, and is also not electable.
We all want to be able to vote for someone that we actually want as president, that is actually going to make some real changes. Not someone that is just more of the same, status quo, inside the beltway, special interest beholding, skirt chasing, party boss chosen, republican lite, promise everything and deliver nothing, spineless politician.
Can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Just wait until you get put in the Rove ore smelter.
And by the way, don't expect to get any of my time, vote, and/or money after you push polled and smeared us in Iowa and NH.
Posted by Loyal Democrat at February 13, 2004 04:13 PM
****************************** Ha, guess what...
You know what, Howard Dean speaks for all of us, and he speaks the truth.
To most of us Kerry is Bush, and is also not electable.
We all want to be able to vote for someone that we actually want as president, that is actually going to make some real changes. Not someone that is just more of the same, status quo, inside the beltway, special interest beholding, skirt chasing, party boss chosen, republican lite, promise everything and deliver nothing, spineless politician.
Can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Just wait until you get put in the Rove ore smelter.
And by the way, don't expect to get any of my time, vote, and/or money after you push polled and smeared us in Iowa and NH.
Geri,
We'll be in Miwaukee Saturday - Tuesday night, though we're staying flexible on Tuesday night so we can go wherever it looks like it's going to be the most fun (i.e., wherever the Gov is!) We're staying at the Baymont Inn NW. Where are you? See you there!
We'll be in Miwaukee Saturday - Tuesday night, though we're staying flexible on Tuesday night so we can go wherever it looks like it's going to be the most fun (i.e., wherever the Gov is!) We're staying at the Baymont Inn NW. Where are you? See you there!
WOULD YOU WALK A MILE FOR DEAN?
Every workday we meet at the State Capitol, at the corner of 10th and L streets, and walk clockwise around the Capitol, wearing Dean shirts, etc., or carrying Dean signs. This is a great noon exercise break, and you get the bonus of lots of good "street theater" to entertain you as you walk. Something is always going on around the Capitol. There are almost always media trucks there, so eventually they will notice us, especially if there are many of us, and we may get some more media exposure.
Location:
State Capitol
10th and L Streets
Sacramento, CA 95814
every work day @ noon
Every workday we meet at the State Capitol, at the corner of 10th and L streets, and walk clockwise around the Capitol, wearing Dean shirts, etc., or carrying Dean signs. This is a great noon exercise break, and you get the bonus of lots of good "street theater" to entertain you as you walk. Something is always going on around the Capitol. There are almost always media trucks there, so eventually they will notice us, especially if there are many of us, and we may get some more media exposure.
Location:
State Capitol
10th and L Streets
Sacramento, CA 95814
every work day @ noon
w00t! - (w)e (0)wned the (0)ther (t)eam(!)
w00t! is often seen at the end of a multiplayer team vs. team Quake III online deathmatch game. (Quake III is a computer video game, in case you don't know.)
w00t! is often seen at the end of a multiplayer team vs. team Quake III online deathmatch game. (Quake III is a computer video game, in case you don't know.)
Larry in VA - 04:35 PM
"...we don't have any info that would enable the FTC to track the perpetrators down. Mom was unable to get a name or phone number, and there was no Caller ID information. If she had the info, you can bet my long-time activist agitator mother would pass it on! ;-)"
Larry, has your mother contacted the people at the phone company, or in the police department, who handle such things as harassing or obscene phone calls? There may be a way for the phone company to ascertain the number the call came from, even if Caller ID doesn't work.
In my community, the police take attempted phone scams very seriously, especially if they think that someone is targeting the elderly.
It sounds to me like somebody was trying to get your mother's credit card information.
If your mother does take this to the phone company, encourage her to ask them to provide her with the call tracing feature at no charge. This is the feature that allows the recipient of the call to lock in the details about the call by pressing the right numbers (*57 or *59 or something like this). It isn't the same as Caller ID, because this feature locks the info in even if the caller blocked his/her ID. Then the phone company can take action to track down the caller.
In my opinion, everyone who lives in the United States who supports Gov. Dean should sign up for this feature, even though it usually costs a few bucks a month. There have been so many incidents of harassing robocalls in the middle of the night; push-polling from anonymous sources; and now scams that might be intended for the purpose of credit card fraud. If it hasn't happened to a Dean supporter yet, it could happen at any time!
We in Denver are going to infiltrate a Democratic rally against the proposed amendment change sponsored by Colorado Congresswoman Marilyn Musgrave (R - go figure), which would limit the definition of marriage to that between a man & a woman. Denver's mayor Hickenlooper & another Colorado Congresswoman Diana Degette will be there & many other influential people in our state's DEm party. I'm sure it will get some press coverage. So as many Deaniacs as I can muster will show up with our Dean t-shirts, buttons, signs, etc, & we're going to prove to Denver that this fight is far from over!!! HOpe to post a photo afterwords!!!
Everytime I get asked to "fall in line behind the nominee" it just makes me not want to even more.
Good for you "a in la" and everyone else.
This is a dynamite interview about Dean on big media. Are any of you posting to Indymedia? This story should be on all the Indymedia websites in North America.
Published on Thursday, February 12, 2004 by the Madison Capital Times (Wisconsin)
Report Agrees Media Unfair to Dean
by John Nichols
Howard Dean's supporters think he has gotten a raw deal from the media. And their candidate does not disagree.
Even before the former front-runner stumbled in primary and caucus states, Dean says he started taking hits from media insiders who he says feared handing the Democratic presidential nomination to an outsider.
"I think I scared them. I think it goes back to when Al Gore endorsed me, and AFSCME and the SEIU; people in the establishment began to think I could win," Dean says, recalling the heady days last fall when he accumulated endorsements from top Democrats and labor unions. "That scared the hell out of them because they knew I didn't owe anybody. I didn't owe them a dime. Eighty-nine percent of our money comes from small donors. That's certainly not true of anybody else running for president on either side."
The "them" Dean is referring to are the Washington-based political pundits, commentators and reporters who shape the discussion of presidential politics on television and on the pages of America's elite newspapers. "I think the media is part of the established group in Washington. They have a little club there," says Dean. "If you don't go down to kiss the ring, they get upset by that. I don't play the game. I pretty much say what I think. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable."
Initially, Dean says, he felt he could take the hits. After all, media outlets that once dismissed him as the "asterisk" candidate from Vermont helped to make him a national figure when they featured him on magazine covers and news shows last fall.
But, after what he refers to as a "pep talk" to backers after his defeat in the Iowa caucuses began airing around-the-clock on cable news programs as the "I Have a Scream" speech, Dean says he began to fully understand how events can be warped by the media.
"ABC actually did a fairly sound retraction on that one," Dean says of a report by ABC News that showed the "scream" in Des Moines was dramatically amplified in television and cable reports. "But that's one network, and one report. Most of the networks failed to offer any perspective."
Dean does not suggest that he has run an error-free campaign. He admits to plenty of mistakes. But his complaint that he has not gotten fair coverage is echoed in a report from the Center for Media and Public Affairs. The center's study of 187 CBS, NBC and ABC evening news reports found that only 49 percent of all on-air evaluations of Dean in 2003 were positive. The other Democratic contenders collectively received 78 percent favorable coverage during the period.
In the week after the Iowa caucuses, the center found that only 39 percent of the coverage of Dean on network evening news programs was positive; in contrast, 86 percent of the coverage of North Carolina Sen. John Edwards was positive, as was 71 percent of the coverage of Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the new front-runner.
Even CNN's general manager now admits that the cable networks overplayed the "scream" - which was aired 633 times on national networks in the four days after Iowa voted on Jan. 19.
Yet, even as he tries to resurrect his campaign with a make-or-break push toward Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Dean does not talk much about media coverage of his campaign. Why? "It's not central to the stump speech. If I were leading the polls by 20 percent, I could say anything I wanted about the media," he explains. "But what I've discovered is that, if you complain about the media, they write that you're whiny and complaining. So I don't complain about the media."
That does not mean, however, that Dean does not think about how he would handle media issues if elected. "I figure I'll win, and then I'll really complain about the media," he says.
What does Dean mean by that?
"I think democracy fails under a variety of conditions and one of the conditions occurs when people don't have the ability to get the kind of information they need to make up their mind. Ideologically, I don't care much for Fox News. But the truth is that, as long as there are countervailing points of view available on the spectrum, it doesn't matter," says Dean, who began speaking last year about the need to reduce the power of big media companies.
"Now, the last time I saw a statistic on this, I think that 90 percent of the American people got their news from a handful of corporations," he adds. "That's not very good for democracy, and that's not very good for America. If I become president of the United States, I'm going to appoint a whole lot of different people to the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) so that we start to make the media more diffuse, more responsible. I'd also like public airwaves devoted to some public services - so that every single station serves the community where it is located."
Dean dismisses the notion that proposals to break the grip of media conglomerates are radical. "That's not radical at all," he says. "That's what we used to have. The right-wingers have undone that over the last 15 or 20 years, and we need to go back to what we had to have a sound democracy."
Dean also dismisses the notion that it would be difficult to get the American people to support a challenge to big media. "I think the public would love what I was doing," he says of a presidential assault on media monopolies. "The public doesn't particularly like the media, which works in my favor."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0212-07.htm
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http://milwaukee.indymedia.org/
This is a dynamite interview about Dean on big media. Are any of you posting to Indymedia? This story should be on all the Indymedia websites in North America.
Published on Thursday, February 12, 2004 by the Madison Capital Times (Wisconsin)
Report Agrees Media Unfair to Dean
by John Nichols
Howard Dean's supporters think he has gotten a raw deal from the media. And their candidate does not disagree.
Even before the former front-runner stumbled in primary and caucus states, Dean says he started taking hits from media insiders who he says feared handing the Democratic presidential nomination to an outsider.
"I think I scared them. I think it goes back to when Al Gore endorsed me, and AFSCME and the SEIU; people in the establishment began to think I could win," Dean says, recalling the heady days last fall when he accumulated endorsements from top Democrats and labor unions. "That scared the hell out of them because they knew I didn't owe anybody. I didn't owe them a dime. Eighty-nine percent of our money comes from small donors. That's certainly not true of anybody else running for president on either side."
The "them" Dean is referring to are the Washington-based political pundits, commentators and reporters who shape the discussion of presidential politics on television and on the pages of America's elite newspapers. "I think the media is part of the established group in Washington. They have a little club there," says Dean. "If you don't go down to kiss the ring, they get upset by that. I don't play the game. I pretty much say what I think. That makes a lot of people uncomfortable."
Initially, Dean says, he felt he could take the hits. After all, media outlets that once dismissed him as the "asterisk" candidate from Vermont helped to make him a national figure when they featured him on magazine covers and news shows last fall.
But, after what he refers to as a "pep talk" to backers after his defeat in the Iowa caucuses began airing around-the-clock on cable news programs as the "I Have a Scream" speech, Dean says he began to fully understand how events can be warped by the media.
"ABC actually did a fairly sound retraction on that one," Dean says of a report by ABC News that showed the "scream" in Des Moines was dramatically amplified in television and cable reports. "But that's one network, and one report. Most of the networks failed to offer any perspective."
Dean does not suggest that he has run an error-free campaign. He admits to plenty of mistakes. But his complaint that he has not gotten fair coverage is echoed in a report from the Center for Media and Public Affairs. The center's study of 187 CBS, NBC and ABC evening news reports found that only 49 percent of all on-air evaluations of Dean in 2003 were positive. The other Democratic contenders collectively received 78 percent favorable coverage during the period.
In the week after the Iowa caucuses, the center found that only 39 percent of the coverage of Dean on network evening news programs was positive; in contrast, 86 percent of the coverage of North Carolina Sen. John Edwards was positive, as was 71 percent of the coverage of Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the new front-runner.
Even CNN's general manager now admits that the cable networks overplayed the "scream" - which was aired 633 times on national networks in the four days after Iowa voted on Jan. 19.
Yet, even as he tries to resurrect his campaign with a make-or-break push toward Wisconsin's primary on Feb. 17, Dean does not talk much about media coverage of his campaign. Why? "It's not central to the stump speech. If I were leading the polls by 20 percent, I could say anything I wanted about the media," he explains. "But what I've discovered is that, if you complain about the media, they write that you're whiny and complaining. So I don't complain about the media."
That does not mean, however, that Dean does not think about how he would handle media issues if elected. "I figure I'll win, and then I'll really complain about the media," he says.
What does Dean mean by that?
"I think democracy fails under a variety of conditions and one of the conditions occurs when people don't have the ability to get the kind of information they need to make up their mind. Ideologically, I don't care much for Fox News. But the truth is that, as long as there are countervailing points of view available on the spectrum, it doesn't matter," says Dean, who began speaking last year about the need to reduce the power of big media companies.
"Now, the last time I saw a statistic on this, I think that 90 percent of the American people got their news from a handful of corporations," he adds. "That's not very good for democracy, and that's not very good for America. If I become president of the United States, I'm going to appoint a whole lot of different people to the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) so that we start to make the media more diffuse, more responsible. I'd also like public airwaves devoted to some public services - so that every single station serves the community where it is located."
Dean dismisses the notion that proposals to break the grip of media conglomerates are radical. "That's not radical at all," he says. "That's what we used to have. The right-wingers have undone that over the last 15 or 20 years, and we need to go back to what we had to have a sound democracy."
Dean also dismisses the notion that it would be difficult to get the American people to support a challenge to big media. "I think the public would love what I was doing," he says of a presidential assault on media monopolies. "The public doesn't particularly like the media, which works in my favor."
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0212-07.htm
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http://madison.indymedia.org/
http://milwaukee.indymedia.org/
Koquine-
Do you need to infiltrate or can you attend straight up?
Do you need to infiltrate or can you attend straight up?
If you fall in line for the nominee, you'll fall for anything.
When Neel took over I thought, good, now we're going to have a real pro to help DFA fight the fight.
I thought we'd see results to:
1) deflate the scream/anger perception problem-- maybe having Dean address this in every speech, and no doubt, the media would pick up this soundbite, which could have been repeated at their delight but to our benefit to address it.
2) adopt ideas of supporters: ad ideas such as ones that showed Dean's statements being parroted by Kerry--which could have easily been done by cutting lines from speeches and the dates they were delivered, and then showing JFK saying same thing with dates, etc.
3) having our strength in numbers being shown by the media--I thought DFA would gather all of its troops--large numbers of us at different venues to show the American voters what Dean's message is, show the excitement, commitment thus allowing voters to feel comfortable in joining our large base.
4) Dean stated he needs to get people to know him better--well, what was done to accomplish this on a national scale?
5) I am angry that I hear in the media - DFA stating a win in Wisconsin is a must, and then no, a win in Wisconsin isn't necessary to continue, and then today I hear if there's no win in Wisconsin Dean will go back to Vermont to regroup! What does this all say to the voting public! Does Neel understand how damaging this sounds to voters?
6) Knowing full well that the media is after entertainment, not promoting news or educating the public, why didn't Neel initiate creative innovative ways to get our message out in more "entertaining" ways -- like many on this blog have stated, having Dean appear on ALL talk shows non-stop. Here Dean could have educated the public about the importance of having a president not beholden to special interests.
I say DFA should hire someone like Carville - so we can actually take a stand and fight.
I thought we'd see results to:
1) deflate the scream/anger perception problem-- maybe having Dean address this in every speech, and no doubt, the media would pick up this soundbite, which could have been repeated at their delight but to our benefit to address it.
2) adopt ideas of supporters: ad ideas such as ones that showed Dean's statements being parroted by Kerry--which could have easily been done by cutting lines from speeches and the dates they were delivered, and then showing JFK saying same thing with dates, etc.
3) having our strength in numbers being shown by the media--I thought DFA would gather all of its troops--large numbers of us at different venues to show the American voters what Dean's message is, show the excitement, commitment thus allowing voters to feel comfortable in joining our large base.
4) Dean stated he needs to get people to know him better--well, what was done to accomplish this on a national scale?
5) I am angry that I hear in the media - DFA stating a win in Wisconsin is a must, and then no, a win in Wisconsin isn't necessary to continue, and then today I hear if there's no win in Wisconsin Dean will go back to Vermont to regroup! What does this all say to the voting public! Does Neel understand how damaging this sounds to voters?
6) Knowing full well that the media is after entertainment, not promoting news or educating the public, why didn't Neel initiate creative innovative ways to get our message out in more "entertaining" ways -- like many on this blog have stated, having Dean appear on ALL talk shows non-stop. Here Dean could have educated the public about the importance of having a president not beholden to special interests.
I say DFA should hire someone like Carville - so we can actually take a stand and fight.
I say DFA should hire someone like Carville - so we can actually take a stand and fight.
Posted by Ms. M at February 13, 2004 05:08 PM
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Not sure about Carville, but there are plenty of good, up and coming political consultants out there we can get to pick us up from the floor.
Agreed, we need to do more, and play like we mean it.
Posted by Ms. M at February 13, 2004 05:08 PM
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Not sure about Carville, but there are plenty of good, up and coming political consultants out there we can get to pick us up from the floor.
Agreed, we need to do more, and play like we mean it.
I sent out Valentines on Monday...to friends and family in Wisconsin...This weekend I'm calling them to remind them, Dem, Republican, Independent alike, that they need to GET OUT AND VOTE on Tuesday!
I have a lot of promises...
We need to get the people there!
I had 2 Republican Wisconsin friends signed on to vote Dean on Tuesday...now I got 3 more!!!
Wisconsin is a Think For Yourself state...they like Dean...
Keep on calling everyone! Every vote we get out there is one closer to a WIN.
I'm in there all the way to Boston and beyond...
I have a lot of promises...
We need to get the people there!
I had 2 Republican Wisconsin friends signed on to vote Dean on Tuesday...now I got 3 more!!!
Wisconsin is a Think For Yourself state...they like Dean...
Keep on calling everyone! Every vote we get out there is one closer to a WIN.
I'm in there all the way to Boston and beyond...
To all Dean supporters,
I was never an early supporter of John Kerry. However, it looks like he's the one who has the momentum and that the Democrats should already start preparing for the Fall campaign without having to deal with nuisance attacks from within. The bottom line is this: I just want a good Democrat to kick Bush out of the White House, no questions asked.
Howard Dean is not doing the Party, or himself, any good with his childish primal screams against Kerry. I don't have a problem with Dean continuing his campaign a little while longer, but I do have a problem with him calling Kerry "a lesser of two evils" with Bush. He claims he'll support him if he's the nominee, but with the nasty mud-slinging Dean is hurling at Kerry, who needs his support? I wouldn't!
If your candidate Dean continues to forget to keep his mouth under control, he's going to blow it not only for the Democrats, but also for this country. If Bush wins, it will be Howard Dean's fault.
Howard Dean needs to accept the fact that he has just lost 14 straight primaries and caucuses and that the math is not in his favor. He cannot continue his barnstorm screeching as if it's still pre-Iowa. The first major contests have already been held, the people have spoken, Howard Dean is not going to be the nominee and he needs to accept it. Even John Edwards should consider dropping out as well, because he only won one contest against Kerry's 12 and Edwards couldn't even win Tennessee or Virginia.
If Howard Dean doesn't get his motor-mouth under control, he will be just as destructive to all of us as Ralph Nader was in 2000. I'm running to be a delegate to the 2004 convention in Boston and I'm not going to behave like a sore loser if I don't win. Maybe I can teach Dean a thing or two about losing with grace.
I was never an early supporter of John Kerry. However, it looks like he's the one who has the momentum and that the Democrats should already start preparing for the Fall campaign without having to deal with nuisance attacks from within. The bottom line is this: I just want a good Democrat to kick Bush out of the White House, no questions asked.
Howard Dean is not doing the Party, or himself, any good with his childish primal screams against Kerry. I don't have a problem with Dean continuing his campaign a little while longer, but I do have a problem with him calling Kerry "a lesser of two evils" with Bush. He claims he'll support him if he's the nominee, but with the nasty mud-slinging Dean is hurling at Kerry, who needs his support? I wouldn't!
If your candidate Dean continues to forget to keep his mouth under control, he's going to blow it not only for the Democrats, but also for this country. If Bush wins, it will be Howard Dean's fault.
Howard Dean needs to accept the fact that he has just lost 14 straight primaries and caucuses and that the math is not in his favor. He cannot continue his barnstorm screeching as if it's still pre-Iowa. The first major contests have already been held, the people have spoken, Howard Dean is not going to be the nominee and he needs to accept it. Even John Edwards should consider dropping out as well, because he only won one contest against Kerry's 12 and Edwards couldn't even win Tennessee or Virginia.
If Howard Dean doesn't get his motor-mouth under control, he will be just as destructive to all of us as Ralph Nader was in 2000. I'm running to be a delegate to the 2004 convention in Boston and I'm not going to behave like a sore loser if I don't win. Maybe I can teach Dean a thing or two about losing with grace.
Hi Bloggers
Maybe it's because today is Friday the 13th, but a really scary thought came to me.
Has it occurred to anyone else that if John Kerry gets the nomination for the Democratic Party in July, that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party will be running “BONE MEN” as their candidate for President of the U.S.A. “Bone Men” are member of the “Skull & Bones, the ghoulish and powerful secret Society at Yale University. Does that mean they are “brothers” ?
For an interesting READ. Take a look at Online Journal, January 10, 2004, “Paranoid Shift” A commentary by Michael Hasty.
Maybe it's because today is Friday the 13th, but a really scary thought came to me.
Has it occurred to anyone else that if John Kerry gets the nomination for the Democratic Party in July, that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party will be running “BONE MEN” as their candidate for President of the U.S.A. “Bone Men” are member of the “Skull & Bones, the ghoulish and powerful secret Society at Yale University. Does that mean they are “brothers” ?
For an interesting READ. Take a look at Online Journal, January 10, 2004, “Paranoid Shift” A commentary by Michael Hasty.
Kerry started out as Bush Lite, and when that wasn't working, he changed course and became Dean Lite. Were he to get the nomination (God forbid!) he'd just go back to being Bush Lite, since that's the only game these DNC/DLC types know how to play. They think they are "moving to capture the center," and all that happens is that the "center" keeps getting redefined as being ever farther to the right, because the Republicans don't play that game, they grab for everything they can get, and with the Democrats so giving and all, that amounts to a hell of a lot.
This is my e-mail to Tom Harkin:
Dear Senator Harkin,
I have heard that you are considering withdrawing your endorsement of Howard Dean. If this is true, I am asking that you please reconsider.
There must have been something about Governor Dean that moved you to endorse him in the first place. Was it his integrity, or honesty, or experience, or strength of character? If it was one of those traits, or something akin to them, then what has changed? I realize that Governor Dean has not achieved decisive victory so far in the primaries, but he isn't failing miserably, either. Also, it is still early in the big scheme of things...most states haven't voted yet; a lot of people still have voices that need to be heard.
Part of the appeal of the American way of life is that there is always the possibility for greatness to happen. People rise from obscurity to great heights in this country, people achieve their dreams, Governors can become Presidents. I think taking back your endorsement would be an action that would go against some of the most powerful and best things about America. I for one would find that very disheartening, especially coming from you, a man who usually speaks up on behalf of the common person.
Please don't give up on Governor Dean, who in my opinion is a real patriot and a person who represents some of our country's finest attributes. In this age when so many politicians are of the same ilk, couldn't we use someone with a touch of Harry Truman's independence and willingness to fight for us all? Well, a lot of people feel that we could, and I am but one of them. I hope that you will continue to be a man of integrity and stand by your promise to back Howard Dean, even if it means standing by when the going gets tough. Please continue to support Governor Dean; your continued loyalty is invaluable.
Thank you,
Maybe it’s because today is Friday the 13th, but a really scary thought came to me.
Has it occurred to anyone else that if John Kerry get the nomination for the Democratic Party in July, that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party will be running “BONE MEN” as their candidate for President of the U.S.A. “Bone Men” are member of the “Skull & Bones", the ghoulish and powerful secret Society at Yale University. Does that mean they are “brothers” ?
For an interesting READ, take a look at Online Journal, January 10, 2004, “Paranoid Shift” A commentary by Michael Hasty.
Has it occurred to anyone else that if John Kerry get the nomination for the Democratic Party in July, that both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party will be running “BONE MEN” as their candidate for President of the U.S.A. “Bone Men” are member of the “Skull & Bones", the ghoulish and powerful secret Society at Yale University. Does that mean they are “brothers” ?
For an interesting READ, take a look at Online Journal, January 10, 2004, “Paranoid Shift” A commentary by Michael Hasty.
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Thursday, February 12, 2004
DEAN'S TACTICS DIVIDE DEMOCRATS
Some believe he will toughen Kerry for Republican attacks; others feel he weakens party.
By DAVE UMHOEFER, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
E-mail: dumhoefer@journalsentinel.com
Howard Dean: principled fighter, or spoiler and sore loser?
Wisconsin Democrats were kicking that around one day after Dean questioned presidential front-runner John Kerry's fund-raising ethics and said Kerry had acted "more like George Bush than he does like a Democrat."
Dean's aggressive tack worries some activists who want their party to quickly unify behind Kerry. Others believe it will help toughen Kerry up for Republican attacks in the fall, if he is nominated.
"There's a murmur out there right now that if the attacks continue and get more vicious, it could hurt our chance to take back the White House," said U.S. Rep. Ron Kind, a La Crosse Democrat who recently endorsed Kerry.
Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle said Thursday he remains worried that the state's Democratic primary could end in a negative shouting match anchored by TV ads in the hours before voters go the polls Tuesday - a negative turn the governor has said he would try to stop.
"This campaign is going to benefit Democrats, if they don't spend their time tearing each other down," Doyle, who has not endorsed a candidate, said in an interview.
Is Dean being too rough on the Massachusetts senator?
Dean and his backers - his campaign says he's recruited 6,000 volunteers in the state - say no way.
"In light of the things that I've gone through, I think that would be laughable," Dean said when asked during a campaign stop Thursday in Madison about his comments on Kerry.
When he led the pack, Dean's record came under fire, so Kerry naturally becomes the focus after his string of primary triumphs, said Wisconsin Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager, who chairs Dean's Wisconsin campaign.
"It's fair game," Lautenschlager said of Kerry's record, which Dean portrayed as that of a Washington insider beholden to wealthy special interests and lobbyists. Dean said Wednesday in Wisconsin that if Kerry wins the nomination and takes on Bush, "once again we may have to settle for the lesser of two evils."
BOLD STAND OR UNPRESIDENTIAL?
The critique of Kerry, Dean's backers say, is consistent with his theme all along of taking bold stands, and stressing the need to stand up for average people and take back politics from special interests.
"One of the reasons he garnered so much early support is that there is a faction of the Democratic Party that truly believes the Democrats are trying so hard to look like Republicans we can't tell one from the other any more," said state Rep. Christine Sinicki, a Milwaukee Democrat backing Dean.
The party should thank Dean for energizing core Democratic voters who had given up on politics, said state Sen. Tim Carpenter, another Milwaukee Democrat.
Lt. Gov. Barbara Lawton, a Democrat who backed Wesley Clark until the retired general dropped out this week, said Dean's comments betrayed a self-defeating bitterness.
"It's unbecoming and not the kind of conduct that is presidential," Lawton said early Thursday afternoon. Clark reportedly plans to throw his support to Kerry at an appearance today in Madison.
Other Democrats point out the long history of contentious primaries in their party and see no problem - at least for now.
ON THE SAME PAGE AS BOSTON?
"Nobody will remember these remarks," longtime Democratic Party activist Robert Friebert said of Dean's comments. "I believe by the convention in Boston everyone will be on the same page."
But if Dean loses handily in Wisconsin, party members around the country will begin to clamor for him to get out of the race, said Friebert, who was candidate Dick Gephardt's state chairman but now backs Kerry.
Hard-core party types were never Dean's base of support anyway, noted state Sen. Jon Erpenbach, a Middleton Democrat backing Dean.
Erpenbach said comparing Kerry to a Republican might have been a stretch on some issues, but not on others. He mentioned Kerry's vote for the war in Iraq and the USA Patriot Act, and said Kerry had not done enough to clean up campaign financing.
"Dean is all wet," countered Matt Flynn, the Milwaukee lawyer who is Kerry's Wisconsin campaign chairman. Flynn said Kerry had backed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law.
Lautenschlager said Dean was merely highlighting differences.
"While he may be occasionally critical of various Democrats, he's trying to distinguish himself," she said. "And he will support whomever is the nominee."
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Steve Walters and Graeme Zielinski contributed to this report.
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DEAN'S TACTICS DIVIDE DEMOCRATS
Some believe he will toughen Kerry for Republican attacks; others feel he weakens party.
By DAVE UMHOEFER, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
E-mail: dumhoefer@journalsentinel.com
Howard Dean: principled fighter, or spoiler and sore loser?
Wisconsin Democrats were kicking that around one day after Dean questioned presidential front-runner John Kerry's fund-raising ethics and said Kerry had acted "more like George Bush than he does like a Democrat."
Dean's aggressive tack worries some activists who want their party to quickly unify behind Kerry. Others believe it will help toughen Kerry up for Republican attacks in the fall, if he is nominated.
"There's a murmur out there right now that if the attacks continue and get more vicious, it could hurt our chance to take back the White House," said U.S. Rep. Ron Kind, a La Crosse Democrat who recently endorsed Kerry.
Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle said Thursday he remains worried that the state's Democratic primary could end in a negative shouting match anchored by TV ads in the hours before voters go the polls Tuesday - a negative turn the governor has said he would try to stop.
"This campaign is going to benefit Democrats, if they don't spend their time tearing each other down," Doyle, who has not endorsed a candidate, said in an interview.
Is Dean being too rough on the Massachusetts senator?
Dean and his backers - his campaign says he's recruited 6,000 volunteers in the state - say no way.
"In light of the things that I've gone through, I think that would be laughable," Dean said when asked during a campaign stop Thursday in Madison about his comments on Kerry.
When he led the pack, Dean's record came under fire, so Kerry naturally becomes the focus after his string of primary triumphs, said Wisconsin Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager, who chairs Dean's Wisconsin campaign.
"It's fair game," Lautenschlager said of Kerry's record, which Dean portrayed as that of a Washington insider beholden to wealthy special interests and lobbyists. Dean said Wednesday in Wisconsin that if Kerry wins the nomination and takes on Bush, "once again we may have to settle for the lesser of two evils."
BOLD STAND OR UNPRESIDENTIAL?
The critique of Kerry, Dean's backers say, is consistent with his theme all along of taking bold stands, and stressing the need to stand up for average people and take back politics from special interests.
"One of the reasons he garnered so much early support is that there is a faction of the Democratic Party that truly believes the Democrats are trying so hard to look like Republicans we can't tell one from the other any more," said state Rep. Christine Sinicki, a Milwaukee Democrat backing Dean.
The party should thank Dean for energizing core Democratic voters who had given up on politics, said state Sen. Tim Carpenter, another Milwaukee Democrat.
Lt. Gov. Barbara Lawton, a Democrat who backed Wesley Clark until the retired general dropped out this week, said Dean's comments betrayed a self-defeating bitterness.
"It's unbecoming and not the kind of conduct that is presidential," Lawton said early Thursday afternoon. Clark reportedly plans to throw his support to Kerry at an appearance today in Madison.
Other Democrats point out the long history of contentious primaries in their party and see no problem - at least for now.
ON THE SAME PAGE AS BOSTON?
"Nobody will remember these remarks," longtime Democratic Party activist Robert Friebert said of Dean's comments. "I believe by the convention in Boston everyone will be on the same page."
But if Dean loses handily in Wisconsin, party members around the country will begin to clamor for him to get out of the race, said Friebert, who was candidate Dick Gephardt's state chairman but now backs Kerry.
Hard-core party types were never Dean's base of support anyway, noted state Sen. Jon Erpenbach, a Middleton Democrat backing Dean.
Erpenbach said comparing Kerry to a Republican might have been a stretch on some issues, but not on others. He mentioned Kerry's vote for the war in Iraq and the USA Patriot Act, and said Kerry had not done enough to clean up campaign financing.
"Dean is all wet," countered Matt Flynn, the Milwaukee lawyer who is Kerry's Wisconsin campaign chairman. Flynn said Kerry had backed the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law.
Lautenschlager said Dean was merely highlighting differences.
"While he may be occasionally critical of various Democrats, he's trying to distinguish himself," she said. "And he will support whomever is the nominee."
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Steve Walters and Graeme Zielinski contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2004, Journal Sentinel Inc. All rights reserved.
Anne from Mass:
Trust - you betcha.
Before I sat down to write and send postcards, I asked myself what could I say about Dean that I couldn't say about ANYONE in this race. And it had to be short (on a postcard). And that's what I wrote: I trust Dean. Now I'll remember to add accountability.
Trust - you betcha.
Before I sat down to write and send postcards, I asked myself what could I say about Dean that I couldn't say about ANYONE in this race. And it had to be short (on a postcard). And that's what I wrote: I trust Dean. Now I'll remember to add accountability.
GO DEAN GO! WE ARE BEHIND YOU!!
If the nominee is ready to be a president, he should be able to handle all the pressure and all the tests. He better gets used to this pressure NOW rathen than later.
Of course, we want to beat GWB too!!
If the nominee is ready to be a president, he should be able to handle all the pressure and all the tests. He better gets used to this pressure NOW rathen than later.
Of course, we want to beat GWB too!!
There is a point in all the movies when 10,000 screaming somethings will be coming over the hill. The small but brave group waits for this tidal wave. People talk quietly. Maybe they smoke a cigarette. They get their muskets ready and stand tall.
Let us all stand tall.
There have been so many emotions in the last month. A is for anger. B is for Brave. C is for Cheerful. D is for Depressed.
How about P is for Proud. I am proud of all of us. I am so proud of Howard Dean. I will go out in the morning and stand tall.
Let us all stand tall.
There have been so many emotions in the last month. A is for anger. B is for Brave. C is for Cheerful. D is for Depressed.
How about P is for Proud. I am proud of all of us. I am so proud of Howard Dean. I will go out in the morning and stand tall.
What are we doing for democracy this weekend?
In tokyo we are setting up a voter registration booth to help americans abroad get information on getting the absentee ballot and registering!
Hope you all can reach out in your own communitites and get out the vote. Especially in the superstuesday states. Get your neighbors and friends out there for Howard Dean
Lauren in Tokyo
In tokyo we are setting up a voter registration booth to help americans abroad get information on getting the absentee ballot and registering!
Hope you all can reach out in your own communitites and get out the vote. Especially in the superstuesday states. Get your neighbors and friends out there for Howard Dean
Lauren in Tokyo
I'm going to spend much of the weekend promoting this petition...PLEASE HELP!
If, like me, you want to perpetuate the patriotic work that we Deaniacs have been doing, please sign the petition at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Flmkprs/petition.html
Please spread the word, if two tell two tell two ...well you get the idea. Anyway, please post this URL anywhere and everywhere.
If, like me, you want to perpetuate the patriotic work that we Deaniacs have been doing, please sign the petition at:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Flmkprs/petition.html
Please spread the word, if two tell two tell two ...well you get the idea. Anyway, please post this URL anywhere and everywhere.
Keeping it positive!
First - YES to that! Let's focus on what we DO want, not what we don't want! Just keep seeing Howard and Judy smiling from the front door of the White House!
The first Easter Monday after Howard Dean is president will be a GREAT day on the Ellipse!!!
More fun and smiles than when Clinton had Ben and Jerry icecream!
I am POSITIVE that Howard Dean is the best choice for President of the United States of America.
I am POSITVE that Howard Dean is a man of integrity and values.
I am POSITIVE that Howard Dean will do exactly what he says he will.
I am POSITIVE that Howard Dean gets my vote in November.
Everyone have a terrific night!
First - YES to that! Let's focus on what we DO want, not what we don't want! Just keep seeing Howard and Judy smiling from the front door of the White House!
The first Easter Monday after Howard Dean is president will be a GREAT day on the Ellipse!!!
More fun and smiles than when Clinton had Ben and Jerry icecream!
I am POSITIVE that Howard Dean is the best choice for President of the United States of America.
I am POSITVE that Howard Dean is a man of integrity and values.
I am POSITIVE that Howard Dean will do exactly what he says he will.
I am POSITIVE that Howard Dean gets my vote in November.
Everyone have a terrific night!
I have just finished reading several comments which obvisously are coming form kerry supporters telling our Campaign that Dean needs to keep his mouth in control and drop out. I tohught and asked myself why should he keep quiet are they afraid of the truth being said. Dean has been attacked everytime he says anything, and hte DNC has put pressure on our super delegates to leave us and endorse Kerry.
People relaize what is happening hte DNC is trying to write off our cmapaing because Dean threatens the establishment. It has nothing to do with being "electable" but more of them losing control.
Kerry is a Wasington insider, accepts corporate lobbyist funds, is against civil rights, can't seem to make it ot senate to vote, has voted to not provide enough funds for schools (NO child left behind), supported this war without true facts for going into Iraq, has no ocncept of homeland security- based on his votes to deny spending for new technology and approval of vital missle defense programs, has had an unfiar.
You can't believe Kerry, but you can believe his record. And htat is nothing to be proud of. Dean will not keep quiet, and I hope htath e Doesn't fall into the pressure of Terry and the DNC.
Support and vote for Dean he is the only candidate to make any kind of proven advancements and changes for the people
People relaize what is happening hte DNC is trying to write off our cmapaing because Dean threatens the establishment. It has nothing to do with being "electable" but more of them losing control.
Kerry is a Wasington insider, accepts corporate lobbyist funds, is against civil rights, can't seem to make it ot senate to vote, has voted to not provide enough funds for schools (NO child left behind), supported this war without true facts for going into Iraq, has no ocncept of homeland security- based on his votes to deny spending for new technology and approval of vital missle defense programs, has had an unfiar.
You can't believe Kerry, but you can believe his record. And htat is nothing to be proud of. Dean will not keep quiet, and I hope htath e Doesn't fall into the pressure of Terry and the DNC.
Support and vote for Dean he is the only candidate to make any kind of proven advancements and changes for the people
GOVERNOR DEAN,
Thank you for staying in the fight. Witnessing the premature
debate between Kerry and Bush is frustrating and sad.
Also, Wes Clark flip-flopping over to the person he called the
“flip-flopper” is even sadder.
I think you can appeal to the now disenfranchised Clark supporters.
*I’m glad you’re going to be the Democratic nominee because you’ll
continue to debate Bush on the “real” issues.
Maybe, Bush’s National Guard stuff is a little sketchy, but his
paperwork says he’s “Honorably Discharged”, so let’s move on already.
Resorting to these Bush-like cheap tactics illustrates how weak Kerry’s
platform is. We need a candidate like you who emphasizes the topics
Americans care about.
Anything positive Kerry does say has been stolen from your words and
ideas. When he’s questioned, he usually sounds very mono-toned and
insincere because he lacks the depth of knowledge on the issues.
Please continue to fight hard for the nomination. Americans deserve
something different. The usually soap opera, “Jerry Springer” like drama
that’s fed to us through the media is embarrassing for our nation, and
insulting to the voters.
We want a candidate who will win the presidency through an passionate
(but intellectual) debate on the issues.
Thank you so very much for being that candidate!!!!
this weekend i will be looking on E-Bay to see if i can find one of those bats or other campaign trinkets that our hard-earned money was frittered away on.
hope the candidate's new handlers are more sensitive to the working stiffs who pay their outlandish stipends. millions for trippi, how much for neel?
"chumps for dean"
hope the candidate's new handlers are more sensitive to the working stiffs who pay their outlandish stipends. millions for trippi, how much for neel?
"chumps for dean"
this weekend i will be looking on E-Bay to see if i can find one of those bats or other campaign trinkets that our hard-earned money was frittered away on.
hope the candidate's new handlers are more sensitive to the working stiffs who pay their outlandish stipends. millions for trippi, how much for neel?
so much for yankee frugality...
hope the candidate's new handlers are more sensitive to the working stiffs who pay their outlandish stipends. millions for trippi, how much for neel?
so much for yankee frugality...
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