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Failed Conservative Values: Arianna Huffington on Family Values Hypocrisy
Arianna Huffington is a well know progressive speaker and activist. She started the popular Huffington Post website and it seems you can't turn on a progressive TV show without her popping up on it and taking a swipe at the conservaitves. I saw Arianna at our local bookstore where she was promoting her new book, The Right is Wrong. During the Q and A, I asked her how conservative values have failed. She had plenty to say.
Failed Conservative Family Values: Arrianna Huffington
My name's Edwin Rutsch, and I'm from ProgressiveSpirit.com, and I'm working on a documentary on how conservative values have failed. Conservatives have talked a lot about their values as a pillar of their movement, and so I'm looking at how those values have actually failed, and I'm wondering if you have some thoughts about that. You started talking about the failed conservative value of fear, for example. I’m wondering if you could expand on that, or on other failed conservative values.
Arianna Huffington: Well, of course, we can see how the conservative family values have failed, ranging from senators caught in bathroom stalls at airports, to congressmen caught sending sexy emails to pages. We've seen the hypocrisy of the party that claims to be the party of family values.
And also, the whole idea that the Republicans are the party of morality and moral values, because they are opposed to same-sex marriage and abortion, is something that progressives need to tackle head-on. Because the Bible, the real spiritual values, are primarily based on what we do for the least among us. That's the essence of the Bible. How do we deal with what John Edwards called "the Other America"? That's the essence of real values.
If you look at the states where there were Living Wage initiatives in the fall, those did very well. Conservatives tend to focus on how the same-sex marriage initiatives did, but how about the Living Wage initiatives?
So I think if you want a battle of different moral values, just put the values of those who care for the poor, of those who care for those who have no health insurance, against the values of those who care about denying the right to marry somebody of the same sex. And let's see who wins.
See the full talk video at;
Arianna Huffington Reads from 'Right is Wrong', Book Passage May. 19, 2008
http://fora.tv/2008/05/19/Arianna_Huffington_Reads_from_Right_is_Wrong
Family Values at Wikipedia:
Family values is a political and social concept used in various cultures to describe values that are believed to be traditional in that culture and in support of the idea that families are the basic units of culture. The phrase has different meanings in different cultures. In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the term has been frequently used in political debate, especially by social and religious conservatives, who believe that the world has seen a decline in family values since the end of the Second World War. Because the term is vague, and means different things to different people, "family values" has been described as a political buzzword, power word, or code word predominantly used by right-wing or conservative political parties and media providers.
Some Questions for Discussion:
Family Values is this vague undefined term. It somehow implies that you support healthy and functioning families. However, conservatives seem to use it more as a self-righteous whip while their actual policies undermine family life.
What are real Conservative Family Values?
What are the actual underlying values that conservatives support?
What are Progressive Family Values?
How can progressives reclaim the discussion about Family Values?
Failed Conservative Values
I ask for your assistance to systematically build the arguments and tell the stories that reveal how Conservative Values have Failed. Join in our effort to create a documentary and book on the subject by contributing articles, posts, chapters for the book and video clips. Check our website for more information and a growing outline of tasks that need to be done on this project. http://progressivespirit.com/Projects/FailedConservativeValues
Coming Soon
Congresswoman Maxine Waters talks with me about the Failure of Conservative Values. I didn't know much about her before, but Wikipedia says, " Waters voted against the Iraq War Resolution, the 2002 resolution that funded and granted Congressional approval to possible military action against the regime of Saddam Hussein." Now that is impressive.
See more Progressive Values Stories:
Edwin Rutsch
What Are Progressive Values? Documentary Project
http://ProgressiveSpirit.com
and Study Group

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Edwin R ~ most excellent response by Arianna. I agree we need to take back the discussion on Family Values.
Progressive Family Values ~ Value ALL Families
gotta go
♥'s to all
Kindness is free!
- Value the whole family (of man)=comprehensive family values.
By Monica Smith on Jun 21, 2008 7:10 AM EDTRepublicans do have some very good ideas. Presidemt Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican sought a third term so created the Progressive Party in 1912.
Therefore, Convervative and Progressive values are the same...God, family and country.
Arianna Huffington is bitter (who can blame her) because her husband Michael divorced her after 11 years of marriage. Michael is gay and a Republican, a double whammy to Arianna.
- A gay Republican is probably a very fearful person.
By Monica Smith on Jun 21, 2008 5:37 AM EDT- Arianna is a bright,strong woman. The kind Republicans fear.
By Phil Specht on Jun 21, 2008 5:47 AM EDTMaybe the point to make is that progressives value the whole family, not just the potential patriarch. It's just a matter of whose perspective is taken into account. Adult males are inclined to think the world revolves around them. The world (family of man) has a more comprehensive all-inclusive perspective.
How about comprehensive instead of progressive? I've never been entirely comfortable with the notion that just moving forward is an adequate metaphor. "progressive" works in contrast to regressive, but, to be honest, that's not what conservatives are ostensibly about. They think life is good and want it to stay the same. That their perception of the good life relies on the continued misery of a whole lot of others, who can't reasonably be expected to want things to stay the same, isn't part of their equation. On the other hand, because the good life rests on the misery of others, there's the likelihood that it will be challenged. In other words, whether the conservatives realize it or not, their good life is threatened by change. Moreover, if they do realize it and respond by hedging their bets and accumulating ever more of what makes their good life good, they only increase the likelihood that there will be a demand for change. A more comprehensive perspective should prompt them to share, thereby lessening the likelihood that their good life will be taken away.
Anyway, it would seem that conservatives are driven by guilt and fear, rather than greed. We assume they are greedy from the evidence that they've accumulated a lot of wealth and can't seem to get enough. But, appearances are often deceiving. It's just as likely that they accumulate out of the fear of losing it all. If that's the case, then accusing them of greed and trying to make them feel guilty is not likely to result in desired change. Indeed, the accusations will merely validate their fears.
Whence does the conservatives' fear originate? Who teaches them to overcome their fears by being overly aggressive?
- Whence does the conservatives' fear originate? Who teaches them to overcome their fears by being overly aggressive?
By Phil Specht on Jun 21, 2008 5:53 AM EDTWhence does the conservatives' fear originate? Who teaches them to overcome their fears by being overly aggressive?
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in the savannah grasslands of Africa a million years ago that response was warranted to encrouchment by predators.
Republicans are simply evolutionarily retarded.
Romanian village re-elects dead mayor
Mon Jun 16, 3:01 PM ET
BUCHAREST (Reuters) - The residents of a Romanian village knowingly voted in a dead man as their mayor in Sunday's municipal election, preferring him to his living opponent.
Neculai Ivascu, 57, who ran the village for almost two decades, died from liver disease just after voting began -- but still won the election by a margin of 23 votes.
A local official said the authorities decided to keep the poll open in case Ivascu's opponent, Gheorghe Dobrescu, won, avoiding the need for a re-run.
"I know he died, but I don't want change," a pro-Ivascu villager told Romanian television.
has been slipped into my first conversation Monica, that is brilliant framing of Bushco torture policies
- Merci beaucoup, gracias, danke, spaciba--i.e. thanks
By Monica Smith on Jun 21, 2008 7:08 AM EDTMost of you probably know that DFA Staff did not choose me as one of their Netroots Nation scholarship winners. (grumble, grumble ;-)
However some fabulous members of the Dean Community have chipped in for my event ticket, hotel and airfare, so I AM GOING!
I've also invited 2 of the other Dean Community scholarship applicants who wern't chosen (Charlie Grapski and Ofer Inbar) to share the hotel room with me, so hopefully we'll get a couple more us there too!
Hope the gap widens.
I can't help but remember that Dukakis was up by 15% over Bush I 20 years ago almost to the day
I heard some reporter say that the recipe for why 1988 is different from 2008 ...
in 2008 the cake is already baked.
Kind o' a good analogy.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/88950/?ses=b9a474681954429353c4bf86e7f219f1
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi claims that a key positive feature of the new wiretap "compromise" is that the bill reaffirms that the President must follow the law, even though the same bill virtually assures that no one will be held accountable for George W. Bush's violation of the earlier spying law. Share this article
In other words, in the guise of rejecting Bush's theories of an all-powerful presidency that is above the law, the Democratic leadership cleared the way for the President and his collaborators to evade punishment for defying the law.
So, why should anyone assume that the new legislative edict demanding that the President obey the law will get any more respect than the old one, which established the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 as the "exclusive" means for authorizing electronic spying?
It wasn't that Bush and his team didn't understand the old law's language; they simply believed they could violate the law without consequence, under the radical theory that at a time of war -- even one as vaguely defined as the "war on terror" -- the President's powers trump all laws as well as the constitutional rights of citizens.
Essentially, Bush was betting that even if his warrantless wiretap program was disclosed -- as it was in December 2005 -- that he could trust his Republican congressional allies to protect him and could count on most Democrats not to have the guts to challenge him.
His bet proved to be a smart one.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/why_obamas_support_for_fisa_ca.php
Here's what's so dispiriting about it. One of the riveting things about Barack Obama's candidacy is that since the outset of the campaign he's seemed absolutely dead serious about changing the way foreign policy is discussed and argued about in this country.
To be clear, I'm not even talking about whether opposing this would or wouldn't have carried political peril. It really doesn't matter. Because if there were ever anything that would have tested his operating premise throughout this campaign -- that you can win arguments with Republicans about national security -- it was this legislation. If ever there were anything that deserved to test this premise, it was this legislation.
And this time, he abandoned that premise.
Glenn Greenwald:
"I think we do a grave disservice if we try to convince people that Obama is really going to work to get amnesty out of the bill. Reid is already saying it's just theater -- they know it's going to fail -- it's just a way, Reid said, to let people "express themselves." It's all designed to let Obama say, once he votes for this bill: "Well, I tried to get amnesty out." He's going to vote for amnesty -- and his statement today seals the fate of this bill. Why sugar coat that?"
By Phil Specht on Jun 21, 2008 5:53 AM
...Republicans are simply evolutionarily retarded.
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???
In general, sounds pretty bold.
How about to look at the mirror?
Aren't those who desperately seeking and can't live without [leader], those who prefer, for whatever reasons, obediently or blindly follow whatever [he/she] suggests till proved false...aren't retarded..., lol?
Aren't those who affiliated with another Party, those who are seeking governmental guidance (headed of course, by their Party!) aren't retarded..., lol?
Republicans who call themselves [true] ones are seeking self-governance (see Ron Paul)!
- pleased to notice that there is a new thread up
By Monica Smith on Jun 21, 2008 10:13 AM EDTYou have such a positive, inspiring attitude. Just what I like to see so early in the morning (for me anyway out west). ;-)
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- Thoughts on Family Values
By Edwin Rutsch on Jun 20, 2008 8:36 PM EDTOne thing, it seems to me, progressives and the media need to do is make the distinction between,
Conservative Family Values versus Progressive Family Values.
Progressives should never refer to Family Values but to either
'Conservative Family Values' or 'Progressive Family Values'.
Failed Conservative Family Values of patriarchy, authoritarianism, strictness, control, secrecy, intolerance, close-minded, etc.,
as apposed to
Progressive Family Values of caring, empathy, community, equality, justice, responsibility, tolerance, open mindedness, etc.,
There's a lot of work to be done to take back the Family Values discussion.
Progressive Values Stories: Brianna Leavitt on Taking Back Family Values - Justice & Responsibility
View @:DemocracyforAmerica.com - Opednews.com - Dailykos.com - Groups.yahoo.com
I interviewed Brianna Leavitt at the First Congregational Church of Berkeley. She feels conservatives have taken over the term Values and Family Values, but she doesn't want to just give up the words to them. She goes on to talk about the Progressive Values she learned in her family. Her mother always reached out to the poor and homeless. Brianna was taught empathy, justice and responsibility by her parents and grandmother. These are in opposition to the Failed Conservative Family Values that exclude people.
How can progressives take back the Family Values discussion?