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Progressive Values Stories: Jim Dean on Responsibility and Participation
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This is supposed to be a participatory democracy and if we're not in there participating then the people that will manipulate and exploit the system will step in there. George Takei
In this second part of my interview with Jim Dean, Chair of Democracy for America, Jim talks about the Progressive Values of responsibility and participation. Progressives are now standing up to participate in and take responsibility over the political process. Democracy for America helps in supporting these Progressive Values of Responsibility and Participation.
Progressive Values Stories: Jim Dean on Responsibility and Participation
Those are important, but the real driver of this in our view is citizens taking control. And also responsibility over the political process to make this happen. And we believe that that is the way that these challenges can be resolved.
I’m Jim Dean. I’m the chair of Democracy for America. I think that for myself and for our community, the concept of progressive means the concept of citizens being in charge of the government, of reform in government. And when we can talk about the values of fiscal responsibility, of getting out of Iraq, of health care for every single American.
It is again citizens being in charge of the government. I think that the reason that we are being challenged right now on these issues is because the culture of incumbency is what runs our government, and we need a culture of activism to run our government.
It’s not whether somebody’s been an incumbent or not, it’s the mindset that they have going along and getting along, expressing all of the constituency interaction as being part of their interaction with lobbyists instead of with the voters. And one of the things that so great about the Democratic Primary is that a lot of the special interests and even the Beltway pundits are not in charge of it. The voters are in charge of it. And that really expresses my feeling about progressive more than anything else. Right here in California, a number of folks in our community have taken it upon themselves to not just work on campaigns, to not just register voters, but to take a position of responsibility in their local parties. That is very difficult to do when you have a job, when you have people you are trying to take care of, when it’s the important thing that makes the world go round in democracies. So we’re taking not only decisions of responsibility in the party and doing all of those things and being in charge of all of these things that heretofore was always done by long-term party insiders. You’re taking the party back to the voters and doing that across the country. But they’re also running for office, which is very important. They are getting involved in leadership positions and advocacy. In previous generations, the activists threw stones from the outside. And if the issue worked, or even it didn’t work, it would disappear for awhile. And now what we’re seeing is less of that. More than anything else, it’s to be there to saying I’m taking responsibility for this, because democracy is part of my life, and I need to spend two or three hours a week doing something. The general story is that politics is too important to leave to the professionals. Some of our best friends are professionals in politics. But really again, we need a culture of citizen activism to drive our politics. There are stories galore in our community. I mean, DFA – if nothing else – is about helping and supporting people to take leadership positions in politics, whether it’s running for school board, or it’s getting on a town committee, or whether it’s running for higher office. There are stories galore here in California – I can tell you right now – I just ran into a gentleman from San Diego – Charlie Ames is his name – he’s a member of our community, but more than anything else, he’s on our rules committee of the California Democratic Party. He’s has to learn a lot, he’s had to deal with a lot of stuff that he probably didn’t know too much about when he first got in there, but he’s able to effect change because of his presence there, and his beliefs that the voters are driving the process. There are hundreds of stories like that. Edwin: What about you personally, in your life – is it from your family? How did you personally develop your sense of responsibility? ANSWER: Actually, it didn’t start well. I was asked to go phone bank for Lindsay when I was 14 with my other older brother, Charlie. And he gave me a list of people who were from the outer boroughs of Manhattan – who hadn’t seen a snow plow all winter. And Charlie took the list of names from Manhattan that had been receiving all the city services under the Lindsay Administration. So, I was calling all these people. They weren’t happy to hear from me. They weren’t particularly enamored with Mayor Lindsay because of the way he had handled some of the snow emergencies in New York that winter. So I learned a lot of new words that day. I kind of went back and licked my wounds for about five years. I got back into it afterwards working on some campaigns. I worked very hard on Howard’s campaign for lieutenant governor in 1986. I was in the private sector between then and 2006, but always I tried either to raise money or get involved. Because it’s just very rewarding. There are a lot of different stories that happened along the way, but really the success is being part of an effort to take over the political culture. You have the election of the lieutenant governor Vermont as being part of that. Edwin: Getting involved in his campaign, you kind of took responsibility. ANSWER: Yeah, and it’s not easy to do that if you’ve got a different job, and you’ve got a family, and people you love and take care of. We’re all pretty busy folks. The fact that all these people are here at this convention really speaks to that more than anything else – citizens’ commitments to get involved. These delegates are not party professionals. For the most part, they are people who work other jobs, who have other lives that they have to deal with. And we need to keep getting more and more of those folks involved.
From Wikipedia - Participatory Democracy
Participatory democracy is a process emphasizing the broad participation (decision making) of constituents in the direction and operation of political systems. While etymological roots imply that any democracy would rely on the participation of its citizens (the Greek demos and kratos combine to suggest that "the people rule"), traditional representative democracies tend to limit citizen participation to voting, leaving actual governance to politicians.
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- bring out your shoes ! your boots ! snowshoes ! flippers ! pogosticks ! ...
By * rdorgan on May 30, 2008 3:24 PM EDT... though, please, spray them with Dr. Scholl's foot powder first before post-marking the package and walking them to your nearest Salavation Army donation center:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/22/walk-a-mile-in-our-shoes/
Walk a Mile in Our Shoes!
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I wonder if tomorrow at the DNC meeting, if one of Hillary's supporters will take off her/his shoe and slam it on the table like Khrushchev did when he threw a temper-tantrum at the UN ?
stuck in the matrix are we! right left wing of the same bird! wrong either way ha
sorry I bowed to the Shamrock God to get a donation out of paine, I'm going to take in the Piston win on the big screen
my fav of this year was the Hornets anyway, I'll be rooting for the East as payback
you could click on my link as a good luck charm for Detroit (but I could understand why you might not be so inclined after I prostituted myself for $25 bucks)
They will tell you that it's a "representative" democracy, not a "participatory democracy" because they don't want to participate. Republican's are lazy and want other people to do things for them, including telling them how to vote.
Which tells me, that if we know that, we should tell them how to vote. Don't ask; tell.
The U.S. Senate next week takes a crucial step to accelerate America’s clean energy, good jobs economy when it opens debate on the Warner-Lieberman Climate Security Act. At its center is a proposal to systematically cut carbon emissions 66 percent by 2050, and to do so with a cap and trade market-based system for carbon emissions that by some estimates could raise over $300 billion annually for clean energy innovation and investment.
Whether the Climate Security Act is approved by the Senate, and our friends in Washington say that is unlikely, its central principle – that carbon emissions must be drastically reduced – is the essential policy idea of our time.Check out the new Apollo Feedback posting, which includes the dispatches you sent here about new developments in clean energy and good jobs.
<font size="5" color="#000000">Senate To Push Carbon Tax Enslavement Bill </font>
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<font color="#000000">Lee Rogers</font>
Rogue Government
May 29, 2008
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The establishment is getting ready to push forward with Joe Lieberman’s proposed carbon credit enslavement bill. The bill otherwise known as <font color="#000000">America’s Climate Security Act of 2007 or S 2191</font> will give the Environmental Protection Agency draconian powers to implement a carbon credit system here in the United States. Read my full analysis of the bill <font color="#000000">here</font>. This is nothing more than a carbon tax and the bill intends to reduce the amount of available carbon credits on a year to year basis starting in the year 2012. This will effectively make it more difficult for small and medium sized businesses to compete with the large multinational corporations who will have the resources to deal with this ridiculous enslavement tax. The threat of man made carbon emissions causing global warming is a documented fraud. <font color="#333333">Over 31,000 scientists have recently come forward refuting the claims of Al Gore and others who are promoting this lie</font>. The fact that the corporate controlled media can continue to promote this huge lie as propaganda to pass this carbon credit initiative is utterly insane.
<font color="#000000">According to the Seattle Post Intelligencer</font>, debate is scheduled to begin on this legislation next week.
For years the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works was the burial ground for legislation addressing among other things coal powered electricity generation. The U.S. has about a quarter of the world’s known supply of coal and coal is the primary source of electricity in this country. (Hydroelectric power is not as prominent elsewhere as in this region.) It is commonly said that reducing the emissions of coal used to generate electricity is vital to controlling greenhouse gas emissions here. Most seem to believe that this is the cornerstone to any effective policy. In December the committee, with a Democratic majority, passed America’s Climate Security Act of 2007 and the bill will be debated in the Senate next week.
The Republicans are split on this bill. Larry Craig and other Republicans did all he could to prevent the bill from getting out of committee. The bill though is sponsored by Joe Lieberman and John Warner. (Warner is on the committee.)
Even though there is absolutely no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, it is pretty clear that the establishment is hell bent on pushing this thing through. The majority of Democrats are going to support this bill and if the Republicans are split on this bill, it means it will pass the U.S. Senate relatively easy. It doesn’t matter that <font color="#000000">the vast majority of Americans oppose the measures in this bill</font>. The establishment wants this carbon credit initiative passed so they can effectively enslave the majority of free humanity.
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The GOP has said that they are going to try to form some opposition to this bill, but in reality it will be nothing more than a staged debate. This piece of legislation is going to get passed and any opposition will be for the purposes of the theater played out in the media to make the masses believe that we actually have Senators that represent the people.
<font color="#000000">San Francisco has already passed a carbon tax on businesses</font> which is just a warm up for what we are going to see across this country if S 2191 gets passed. It is incredibly insane that these people are going forward with an agenda to establish a system of carbon credits on the basis of man made carbon emissions causing global warming. With over 31,000 scientists many with high level degrees refuting the doomsday claims of Al Gore, this global warming crap along with this carbon tax push is becoming more and more of a sick joke.
Huron John, I appreciate the Counter Punch take on the military. I think I read some time ago, where I don't remember, that we have 900 bases around the world. Why we are still in Germany and Japan, I don't know.
I was thinking about how the Clintons' tactics have polarized the Democrats. Had Hillary Clinton presented herself as an honest broker, as someone thoughtful and sincere, who had some sense of diplomacy and dignity, who showed herself supportive of Democratic principles and was respectful to her audience, she might have been unbeatable.
But she didn't. She used Rove's methods, and interestingly enough, I think this has been a service to Barack Obama. For instance, who knew Barack Obama before his speech at the Democratic National Convention? Even then, as a Dean supporter, I chafed and wasn't likely to give him much credit. Watching Hillary Clinton as Dean spoke just exacerbated my feelings of injustice.
However, Hillary's arrogance, snideness, and authoritarianism; her use of insinuation, labeling, innuendo, accusations, and racism and sexism have brought forth, at least in me, a greater fervor in defending Obama. Bill Clinton received something like 43 percent of the vote in the election for his first term, and after the attacks by the Republicans, I think his plurality was close to 49 percent. Attacking people sometimes brings about the opposite result. People defend the one attacked.
Secondly, the length of the campaign has allowed many more people to get to know Obama and brought many more people into the process.
Thirdly, I don't trust the Clintons, and I'm probably not alone. How can she possibly be supportive of the nominee, as she has promised, when her tactics and rhetoric have tried to destroy him? I don't believe for a minute that she is interested in the benefit to the country of an Obama presidency. If it is not to be hers, then she will disrupt, polarize, challenge, and engage in the same manipulations and machinations that the Republicans did in the contested election of 2000. Just some thoughts.
- Ted Kennedy went on to be a great leader in the Senate.
By Phil Specht on May 30, 2008 5:00 PM EDTHillary has shown me she is tough and smart in the old school ways and I wouldn't mind her wielding that knife on Republicans in the cloakrooms of the Senate.
- Harry Reid could take a few lessons from the Clintons he has been way too nice to Republican obstructionists.
By Phil Specht on May 30, 2008 5:06 PM EDTThrow one back Harry, and then throw an elbow and stomp on a toe or two. rules, mules, we don't need no stinkin rules, make 'em bring out the cots if they want to filibuster everything
I truly don't think it would have mattered what Hillary did or did not do. She is boring and came with lots of baggage.
Obama is and was a formidable candidate, capable of drawing huge crowds and new people into the partyl It's good he had time to show what he can do.
You can see by the recent California polls that have him up 51 to 38 against Clinton that had he had a few more months before Iowa, he would have won it all from Iowa on down the list.
Just my take on it:)
Hillary Clinton just can't escape the historic nature of this election to make a break from the past. Her only chance was a early stampede, but the pandora's box of populism late in the campaign shows the strength of that political drift, which is why I still think Jim Webb as VP and you win 35 states. But no beltway insider please to "balance the ticket", and I think the Rules fight is about forcing a way onto the ticket, not winning the nomination.
- the number of bases is closer to 750, not counting Iraq
By Monica Smith on May 30, 2008 5:09 PM EDTThe reason we have these bases is because our industry and commerce communities have gotten addicted to military might back up their endeavors. Perhaps it's because age naturally leads to sclerosis and indolence, or perhaps it's just that force and coersion are basically attractive to a significant portion of the population.
Anyway, there's a large segment of the ruling elites who are convinced that American supremacy is tied to military power, the ability to wipe other nations off the globe and threaten to do so on a regular basis. Iraq was supposed to serve as an example of what happens to nations that don't serve U.S. interests--the U.S. wanted a physical presence on the southern edge of Asia and, having failed on the southeast coast, looked at the southwest as an acceptable alternative. First it was supposed to be Saudi Arabia but the religious interests proved prohibitive. The secular Iraq seemed not to have the same problem, but Saddam Hussein refused to be co-operative. So, Bush Two decided to take what was wanted since it wasn't voluntarily forthcoming. And it still isn't.
So, as my next post points out, we're moving to Guam. "project power from American territory rather than foreign bases" is the significant phrase. It means we have won. The bases in Iraq will be dismantled and whatever monitoring of the region needs to be done, will come out of Guam.
Secretary Gates Visits Guam Military Base
By ERIC SCHMITT
Published: May 30, 2008
ANDERSEN AIR FORCE BASE, Guam — Dipping low over this tropical island in a Navy helicopter on Friday, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates gazed out over one of the largest American military construction projects in decades.
Over the next six years, the Pentagon is planning to spend $15 billion to upgrade and expand World War II-era air bases, barracks and ports, and carve out of the jungle new housing and headquarters to accommodate thousands of additional troops and their families who are scheduled to arrive.
It is all part of the military’s effort to remake Guam into a strategic hub in the western Pacific, underscoring both the increasing geopolitical importance of Asia to Washington as well as the Pentagon’s priority to project power from American territory rather than foreign bases.
La La Land exists.
Huckleberry Hates Freedom
Steven Greenhut
Orange County Register
May 30, 2008
Former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee always set my teeth on edge, from his hokey folksy manner to his love of big government to his shameless use of his religion for political gain. But now I understand exactly why I found the Huckster to be so offensive (and it’s hard to stand out on that score given the overall quality of presidential candidates this year). Here, hat tip to AndrewSullivan.com, is a quotation from Huckleberry on Huffington Post regarding libertarianism:
“The greatest threat to classic Republicanism is not liberalism; it’s this new brand of libertarianism, which is social liberalism and economic conservatism, but it’s a heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism because it says ‘look, we want to cut taxes and eliminate government. If it means that elderly people don’t get their Medicare drugs, so be it. If it means little kids go without education and healthcare, so be it.’ Well, that might be a quote pure economic conservative message, but it’s not an American message.”
Vietnam went through a surge, when air power was deemed effective if you could bait them into engagement by being everywhere, and then rain death from the skies when they engaged.
the tactic of mucking around in Bagdad until taking fire and then bringing in a missle isn't a new tactic
and it is very devaluing of the "bait"
I'm surprised the briefings don't have "body counts"
Isn't that McCain's basic argument, if we keep causualties low Americans will tolerate this continuing?
Fomenting inflation to pay for war
Toni Solo
Scoop
May 29, 2008
Western Bloc central banks and financial and investment corporations are locked into an inflationary dynamic in order to sustain their system’s militarist imperialism. The Bloc’s European and Pacific components offer supportive economic collaboration. In exchange, the US serves as the Bloc’s global enforcer.
The US Treasury, Federal Reserve and corporate financial houses work together boosting dollar zone money supply, devaluing the dollar. Their partners take compensatory steps, intervening in G7 financial markets. They seek to keep their currencies in some kind of sustainable relationship for purposes of mutual trade and finance equilibrium so as to support US budget and current account deficits.
As the value of the dollar declines the oil price has to rise so producers can maintain operating and marketing margins. A comparison of the US-Euro price trend with the oil price trend through 2006 and 2008 shows a surprisingly uniform correlation between the two. Against the Euro the US$ fell from around 1.21 in January 2006 to around 1.45 in January 2008. The oil price fell on a similar trend from around US$60 to just under US$100. On average, for around every cent the dollar lost against the euro, the oil price rose a little under US$2.
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If one looks at the oil price and US$-Euro figures through 2007 up to April 2008, one can see that the trend is even more uniform and continues more sharply. The US$ fell against the Euro from around 1.35 in April 2007 to around 1.57 a year later. During the same period the oil price rose from around US$63 to around US$132. Roughly, an average increase of US$3 for every one cent drop in the value of the dollar.
NASA Links Ancient Nile Records to Sun’s Impact on Climate Change
Daily Galaxy | May 26, 2008
While Congress was setting the climate-change record straight this week, challenging the Bush Adminstration’s deliberate distortion of the facts about global warming, NASA announced that a group of NASA and university scientists has found a convincing link between long-term solar and climate variability in a unique and unexpected source: directly measured ancient water level records of the Nile, Earth’s longest river, which runs south to north through Egypt.
Scientists have traditionally relied upon indirect data gathering methods to study climate in the Earth’s past, such as drilling ice cores in Greenland and Antarctica. Such samples of accumulated snow and ice drilled from deep within ice sheets or glaciers contain trapped air bubbles whose composition can provide a picture of past climate conditions.
The NASA team analyzed Egyptian records of annual Nile water levels collected between 622 and 1470 A.D. These records were then compared to another well-documented human record from the same time period: observations of the number of auroras reported per decade in the Northern Hemisphere. Auroras are bright glows in the night sky that happen when mass is rapidly ejected from the sun’s corona, or following solar flares.
What a colossal jerk!
Hope that the young man in question thoroughly disinfects himself.
Leading this criminal away in chains cannot happen too soon.
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Bush to AFA grads: Freedom the most powerful weapon
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Article Last Updated: 05/29/2008 04:53:46 PM MDT
President Bush and U.S. Air Force Academy graduate Theodore Shiveley of Plano, Texas, bump chests after Shiveley received his diploma at the AFA graduation ceremony on May 28, 2008. (AP | Charles Dharapak)
AIR FORCE ACADEMY — President Bush began his commencement speech at about 10:15 a.m. today with some light-hearted remarks directed to the 50th graduating class at the Air Force Academy.
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He sent the cadets on their way with words of encouragement and exhortation, ending his speech about 10:40.
The president then congratulated each of the 1,012 graduates as they received their diplomas, shaking hands, embracing and occasionally banging his chest against a graduate's chest.
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He sent the cadets on their way with words of encouragement and exhortation, ending his speech about 10:40.
The president then congratulated each of the 1,012 graduates as they received their diplomas, shaking hands, embracing and occasionally banging his chest against a graduate's chest.
what an embarrassment ... and how dare he!
The supremely warmongering coward is not worth even one little finger of one of those cadets.
He has no shame whatsoever.
Karl Rove’s Dirty Tricks May Usher in a McCain Presidency
Kurt Nimmo / Infowars | May 26, 2008
Get ready for McCain and another four years of the neocons. According to Jason Leopold, “Timothy Griffin, a central figure in the U.S. Attorney scandal and a protégé of Republican political guru Karl Rove, reportedly has been hired to dig up dirt on likely Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.” Griffin is a seasoned dirty trickster. Only time will tell what kind of dirt he will excavate on Obama. But a few minutes with Google provides more than a clue, that is if the corporate media is in the mood to listen.
Fox News Guest Openly Calls For Obama Assassination
Neo-Con obsession with killing Democratic candidate takes sick new turn as Hillary Clinton makes veiled threat
Paul Joseph Watson / Prison Planet | May 26, 2008
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The Neo-Cons’ sick obsession with assassinating Barack Obama took another bizarre turn yesterday when Fox News guest Liz Trotta openly expressed a desire to see someone "knock off" the Democratic candidate.
Trotta, former New York bureau chief of the Washington Times, referred to the Democratic frontrunner as "Osama" before quipping that it would be nice to see both Bin Laden and Barack Obama killed.
TROTTA: And now we have what some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama — Obama. Well, both, if we could.
HOST: Talk about how you really feel.
Watch the clip.
Air Force trains in mountainous western Virginia
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The Green Hornets are in town. A squadron of 90 airmen and three helicopters are here for a week's worth of training in the mountains of western Virginia. The Air Force sent its largest, most sophisticated helicopter to get the lay of the land. The 20th Special Operations Squadron is based at Hurlburt Field in the Florida panhandle. They've come here for a little variety. Tech Sergeant Lin Stull is from Eagle Rock, so he suggested the unit check out his hometown. "I knew the terrain," he says. "We were looking for somewhere we could find some good quality mountain flying."
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Hope there are no turkey or chicken houses around. Sheep and horses don't do to well either. We get Navy training jets all the time. Wish they'd go pound sand.
They think the locals are stupid, and no enough to fight them. . . .
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