We can't make a T.V. worth a dime anymore, can't make a decent car, can't help our sick, elderly, homeless....... Poverty up 13% over the last six years, 28 million now on food stamps......I was in the dollar store the other day and I picked up a "Jesus" statue and looked at the label. Sure enough, made in China! We can't even make our own Jesus statues anymore. Thanks for the reality check on our penal system Danny. It's comforting to know we're still  #1 at something. I've always thought that as a nation that brags about its Liberties and Freedoms so much, we have an incarceration rate that's both appalling and embarrassing.            JM in NY

There is lots of money made and jobs created in the privatization of correctional institutions.

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California Prison Moratorium Project: http://realcostofprisons.org/papers.html...

http://californianaacp.org/advocacy/poli...

Howard is #1, but this blog sure as hell isn't.

Fix it Danny! (or hire someone who can)

6:18pm

Howard Dean is first.

Pennsylvania--the worst possible outcome

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn04232008.html

For the Democratic Party it was the worst possible result. If Hillary Clinton had won by 20 points, which was her lead in Pennsylvania around the time the Rev Jeremiah Wright’s sermon jumped from Youtube to cable news, then there would have a case for arguing that yes, Obama had taken too much damage from Wright, from his ill-considered remarks about small-town bitterness at a California fundraiser and his tenuous ties to a former leader of the Weather Underground.

If on the other hand Hillary had eked out a victory by 5 points or less in a state tailor-made for her it would have accelerated her downward drift, and her campaign funding crisis would have been insoluble, assuming – which we safely can – that Bill wouldn’t give her a credit line on the $109 million earned since 2001. But in the end Pennsylvania gave  her an 8 to 10 point victory. The demographic contour of the Democratic voters was old, (second, behind Florida, in the union), Catholic (40 percent of those voting last night). Almost 60 per cent of the vote was cast by women. The state is more rural than Ohio and 55 per cent of the voters had high school degrees or less.

It’s clear that a sizable chunk of those questioned  after they voted lied to the pollsters. The exit polls showed a 5 point margin for Hillary. In the end the margin was approximately twice that. This is a big problem for Obama as is the fact that far more voters for Hillary said they would never vote for Obama than the other way round. One of Hillary Clinton’s big achievements has been to seriously, maybe fatally, wound Obama among her own supporters.

6:22 pm

Brian Williams is doing a little truth telling "Clinton won PA but not by double digits."

Once one of the networks tells the truth will the others follow.

LINDORFF ON PA

http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04232008.html

Again, it's clear that this "above the fray" kind of campaign strategy is not going to work--especially going forward. Americans say they want positive, issue-oriented campaigns, but they really want blood on the floor. Clinton is delivering that blood. Obama is going to have to do the same.

Finally, if he wants to win those white, working-class voters, and the women voters who are backing Clinton, Obama needs to do more than talk about Hope and Change. He needs to start talking concretely about fighting for women’s equality (he has two daughters—the case is easy!), he needs to talk concretely about ending not just the Iraq War, but the nation’s obsession with military spending, he needs to talk seriously about the crisis of global warming (not just creating green-energy jobs!), he needs to talk seriously about protecting American jobs, and he needs to talk seriously about how to break the insurance industry’s grip on the health care dollar.

In short, he needs a much more aggressive and focused campaign.

6:27PM

John,

I think the DFA grassroots and netroots are too.

As for bfa's present computer program. It had a lot of potential. And still does. It's a real shame that it wasn't utilizes to its full capacity. What a total waste of a lot of money and time.


Watch the kitty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9D_HN9gX...

6:30 PM EDT 

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Tom Bearse
Wed, 04/23/08

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rdorgan wrote "If Hillary wins the dem nomination, my wife and I have already discussed it and agreed that we would sit out the general election come Nov."

This disappoints me as much as hearing that if Obama wins the nomination, Clinton's army of primary supporters are going to boycott the general election.

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Tom -

She has acted like a republican in her and Bill's and their surrogates' attacks on Obama.  A year ago, my wife and I would have voted for her if she got the dem nomination.

Well, too much has happened these last few months for us to forgive her.  We've never felt as much anger towards a presidential candidate as we do against her and her campaign.

IRAQ--A WAR FOR ISRAEL

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts04232008.html

The [most]likely explanation for the US invasion of Iraq is the neoconservative Bush Regime’s commitment to the defense of Israeli territorial expansion. There is no such thing as a neoconservative who is not allied with Israel.  Israel hopes to steal all of the West Bank and southern Lebanon for its territorial expansion.  An American colonial regime in Iraq not only buttresses Israel from attack, but also can pressure Syria and Iran from giving support to the Palestinians and Lebanese.  The Iraqi war is a war for Israeli territorial expansion.  Americans are dying and bleeding to death financially for Israel.  Bush’s “war on terror” is a hoax that serves to cover US intervention in the Middle East in behalf of “greater Israel.”  

6:35pm

Tom's still prattling on about the "perfect is the enemy of the good".

Obama is good enough to get my vote, but I, and I'm sure a majority of Americans, am suffering from "Clinton Fatigue".

A Clinton candidacy will assure a McCain presidency. Both Clinton and Obama have praised McCain as "better than Bush" Clinton has gone so far as to say he's more qualified than Obama.

Having endured McCain's hypocrisy, inconsistency, and right-wing agenda during 25 years in AZ, I can assue you that McCain will be as bad, or worse, than Bush.

I see Obama as an Establishment candidate, but one who, on balance, would start us upward.

Clinton will continue most of Bush's evil agenda.

I won't vote for Nader (even though I agree with almost everything he says), but I could vote for Cynthia McKinney. She articulates the real progressive agenda.

6:46 pm

why would anyone watch the corporate media anymore? they are all prostitutes.

It isn't even funny.

This afternoon, I turned on for a minute and they were showing the ad agains barack in NC? WTF? Free media.

Just like they did to Howard/

How bout McCain and his mistress wife, her drug problem??

Come on.

"Tom's still prattling on about the "perfect is the enemy of the good".<<<<<

Well, the original "prattler" of that line was Gov. Howard Dean, encouraging people to vote for Kerry in 04.  I'm always amused that the folks least likely to follow his example are the first to stumble over themselves to declare him first {{shaking head} 

mary wrote (last thread), Did Hillary raise 10MM in the past 24 hours with 50,000 new donors?

Obama's email I received this afternoon says:

[. . .]

She came up short.

In fact, she barely made a dent. At most, she picked up a net gain of 12 delegates -- less than our gain, for example, in Colorado (where we gained 17) or Kansas (where we gained 14). Her gain in Pennsylvania was less than half of our gain in Virginia, where we added to our lead by 25 delegates.

But there is one measure by which her campaign's gains are real.

The Clinton campaign claims they've raised $3.5 million dollars since the polls closed yesterday.

We can't afford to let that go unanswered.

[. . .]

Then I saw CNN say she go $10 mil. Quite a difference here. I trust Obama and not CNN so I will assume  CNN is lying (nothing new there) and just maybe so is Hillary.

The Democratic National Committee has seriously upped its ad campaign against John McCain, with the latest FEC filing showing a $500,000 buy to run the spot on the economy that they previewed over the weekend.

With the Democratic candidates still beating each other up, the DNC has had to step in and do some of the heavy lifting in taking on John McCain rather than let him enjoy a free ride in the press. And this is not a small problem, either -- the DNC has been the one area of Democratic fundraising to seriously lag behind its Republican counterpart.

A DNC staffer told us that the ad will run on national cable.

FROM LAST THREAD

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Michael Ellis
Wed, 04/23/08

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someone should betetr define his "wiping off the map"..........which simply i interpret as an end to the Zionist regime and a better Israel where all parties live in peace..............

The war machines wont have any of that tho............theyd be outta business

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I'm not even sure if the quote is accurate and/or what the context was, if it was....but what they are talking about (and they have often elaborated) is the "State of Ethnic and Religious Jews Only" is what they want to be eliminated, not necessarily by force or violence.

This is not any different to those in Israel on the middle-Right and Right, (which is a majority living there today, no thanks to the cycle of violence)

People in Israel, Politicians,  have been condemned, called Nazis, etc. simply for calling for a "land of all its people" which for many is code for the destruction of the "Jewish State" not Israel per se, necessarily, but the status quo religious and ethnic State of Israel, which to most Zionists today, defines the Jewish homeland.

My own personal feeling is that I would like to see something like a United States of Israel that would give sovereignity to Gaza, The West Bank, and make the present State of Israel secular with a relatively small religious district within it, centered in West Jerusalem, in which the Orthodox Rabbis would rule.

The Jewish State is a victim of its own success.  Had Israel been a secular State from its beginning, it could have easily expanded and absorbed neighboring areas, like the Sinai, and even Lebanon, with little local opposition.  The people would have preferred the economic and security advantage of being part of the United States of Israel.

Another question one should ask is, why would 50,000 new donors Hillary claims she has just since last night want to arbitrarily throw good money after bad. Also, how in the world would 50,000 new people donate in that short of time online or did they just throw cash and checks at her feet.

At the bottom of the last thread...

McCain will vote to remove more as our rights.  He has already admitted to appointing judges who want to overturn RvW.

There is probably no one on this blog who despises Hillary more then me.  I actively supported Repubs over Bubba and she may be worse then he is.

When I have a difficult question or issue that has many facets, the question I try to answer is how are children affected?

Which president would be better for our kids and grandkids?  We owe those who follow us at least a shot of living in a better world then we are.

Who will be a better president for our kids? 

That is a tough one and we can debate that forever, but at his point in time, Hillary wins out over McCain because of the Democratic platform in general.

cC wrote: The DNC has been the one area of Democratic fundraising to seriously lag behind its Republican counterpart.

As soon as Hillary runs out of money, hopefully very soon, we can send more money to the DNC as Obama won't need much to finish the primary.

After the convention, a new contribution session will begin with the max amount beginning all over again at 0.

Local, state and congressional candidates also need help.

I am wondering why there is all this Clinton/McCain talk here.

Barack Obama is going to be the nominee and, but for Clinton, should have already been declared the "presumptive nominee."

Ms. Hillary needs to stop pretending there are opportunities for herself that don't exist..

poblano on clinton's popular vote math.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

Lots of details in here. cC should love this one.

why would anyone watch the corporate media anymore? they are all prostitutes.

...How bout McCain and his mistress wife, her drug problem??

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How about her "I did not have sex with that woman" husband? Her biggest campaigner, and non-cash asset.

One of the reasons I so want this to be over - I can't stand listening to Terry McAuliffe and the rest of the Clinton carnival barkers any longer. Ed Rendell is a bit slimey with his PA politics but I do believe him when he said that if Obama is the nominee - he'll work his heart out for him.

The media has been strangely silent about Bill's biggest Presidential crisis.  You can bet the Republican attack machine won't forget it.

22 Joan,

It isn't over yet.  This one will be settled at the convention where the delegates could overule the voters and choose Hillary.

As long as Hillary is within the total number of delegates left then she should stay in.  This is her right.  We all complained about candidates who did not contest the vote count and we want someone to leave before all the votes are cast?

As long as she has a chance then she should stay in.  

The big question on my mind are the Michigan and Florida delegates.  Thay should be seated at the convention as free-agents and let them vote for whom they think is best. 

Delegates overrule the voters?

No way in hell is that going to happen.

This one will be settled at the convention where the delegates could overule the voters and choose Hillary.

That scenario doesn't stand a *snow's chance in hell* of happening because the Dem party will cease to exist if it does.

rae~ Great minds, ya think!?! :~)

Jo, you're a breath of fresh air.  Thank you for noting that not voting for HC is an ego problem.  And thank you for pointing out the attacks.  This is the election of our lives and it's not even as ugly as some in the past.  I suppose no one here ever lied or cheated?

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 And health care and withdrawal is off the table because she's not shown any ability to bring consensus or show she could and would do it.

Neither has Obama.  And her health care plan is better.

And her health care plan is better. 

Hillary's healthcare plan will not pass - I repeat it will not pass. Barack's isn't perfect but stands a much better chance of passing.

Off to make dinner for the kidlets.

rae - I will march in protest if this nomination is stolen from Barack. count on it.

seashell,

She has had plenty of time to do something about healthcare,  or haven't you heard she has 35 years of experience.

I do not agree she has a better health plan.  I do not agree that people should be forced to buy health insurance.

Jo,  I am not letting my ego get in the way of not voting for Clinton.  I promised myself to never vote for anyone again who had voted for the Iraq war.

mary vb,

There are people talking of protesting in Denver.  If so I will be there.

mary vb

we can see where Linda NM gets her passion for Clinton; poblano has a one in 20 shot for Gore and a brokered convention if Hillary catches Obama in the popular vote (with Florida included)

A brokered convention might throw both of them out and draft Gore or even Howard.  I'm a dreamer about Howard.

Politics is dirty.  They've both been lying or stretching the truth.  What did you all expect?   They both triangulate and goad and jab and moan and whine.  BO does it in a more palatable way.

BO needs to get tough and concise.  HC lays out very clearly what she'd do and how she'd do it.  

I know BO supporters who would vote for HC in a heartbeat.  What is it with the hatred here on the blog?  Do you really want RoevWade overturned?  A totally fascist Supreme Court? Besides much more.

"Boston Legal" was fab last night.  Alan took on the Supreme Court and made them look like the fascists they are. 

I promised myself to never vote for anyone again who had voted for the Iraq war.

Well, BO voted every time to continue it, so where are you with that?  Plus he's said he'd go into Pakistan (with their nukes) uninvited.  

seashell,

Do you want Iran nuked?

Somehow all else pales in the face of that.

Grassroots support from people like you has the Democratic nomination in our sights.

Here's how it breaks out:

• After Pennsylvania, we have a lead of at least 159 elected delegates earned through all of the primaries and caucuses so far. We have a total of at least 1493 pledged delegates.
  
• Meanwhile, we've been rapidly gaining ground among the so-called superdelegates (elected leaders and party officials who get a vote to choose our nominee), cutting Senator Clinton's lead from more than 100 early this year to less than 25. We have a total of 238 publicly committed superdelegates.
  
• The total number of delegates needed to secure the nomination is 2,024. That means we are only 293 delegates away from securing the nomination.

In less than two weeks, we'll square off in the key battleground states of North Carolina and Indiana, when there will be as many delegates at stake as there were last night in Pennsylvania.

To grow our significant lead and close out this race, we must remain competitive in these contests and the 7 others that will follow.

Barack needs your support right now to finish this contest:

https://donate.barackobama.com/thefacts

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Israel has passed a message to Syria that it would withdraw from the Golan Heights in return for peace, according to a Syrian government minister.

That is a lame excuse.  Barack voted to make sure the troops had the right equipment.  Your girl voted for the same.

Barack would go into Pakistan to get Osama Bin Laden, if it was known where he is.  Not uninvited by all, plenty of people in Pakistan agree this is what should happen.

poblano's post is very interesting.  Here's the last part of it.

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There are several lines of demarcation here:

1. If Obama maintains the status quo, or improves his numbers at all, or loses fewer than 6 points from his current position, he will be the nominee almost without question, as Clinton will not win even the Florida/McAuliffe version of the popular vote count. This is ignoring the small, residual possibility of an unexpected scandal or tragic event befalling Barack Obama.

1. If Clinton wins the Florida/McAullife count, she may succeed in taking the nomination battle to the convention floor. However, her chances of actually winning that floor fight remain rather low until...

1. Clinton wins the Best Obama popular vote count. At this point, I would guess that she was as likely as Obama to be given the nomination. I would also guess that there was a relatively substantial chance of Al Gore (or some other alternative like John Edwards) winning the nomination, as such a convention would almost certainly be brokered, with both candidates being able to make some strong claims toward legitimacy.

1. From this point onward, Obama's chances of winning the nomination continue to fall -- and Clinton's continue to rise -- rather precipitously. The reason is not that I expect the popular vote argument to trump the pledged delegate argument in the abstract, but how we get from here to there. If Obama lost 20 points off his current standing in the polls, he would still emerge with a material lead in pledged delegates, even with Florida and Michigan seated. However, he would also have lost 20 points in the polls -- and something would have had to have caused that. Put differently -- Obama will run out of electability real estate long before he runs out of pledged delegate real estate (but after he runs out of popular vote real estate).

If that 'something' were perceived to be Hillary Clinton herself, then again it might be Al Gore who emerged with the nomination. There is a tangible and increasing possibility of the NASCAR pile-up scenario: Clinton succeeds in making Obama unelectable, but in doing so, she so damages her own electability, or so turns off large segments of the Democratic base, that the Democrats have little choice but to cut their losses and nominate a 'unity' candidate like Gore.

Bear in mind that most of these scenarios are at the far reaches of the universe of the possible. I would put Obama's chances of winning the nomination at about 85%, Clinton's at about 10%, and Al Gore's at 5%.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/23/19100/6647/364/502052 

    rdorgan wrote:       "If Hillary wins the dem nomination, my wife and I have already discussed it and agreed that we would sit out the general election come Nov."

    Me too. Hillary's campaign has been right out of Roves playbook. Not to mention the Bosnia sniper fire bull, Mom and child who died because the hospital refused them bull..... Straight out lies are worse than misspeaking in my book. Her shameful campaign tactics have left too much of a "Bitter" taste in my mouth to just overlook. The only chance she has is if the Super Delegates overturn the will of the majority of Dem voters. If that happens then it's bye, bye, to the Dem party for me.

   I've already been deeply disappointed with how little they've accomplished since Nov 06. And don't give me that "but they don't have the votes" crap. They don't need the votes to bring an end to the Iraq disaster. They also don't need the votes to stand firm on no immunity to the Telecoms. They simply lack courage, and they're spineless. If it's stolen from Obama, that will be the last straw for me. I can no longer get behind a spineless party that refuses to lead during these incredibly important times.
JM in NY

Racism and this campaign:

Brian Williams said tonight that 16% of PA voters exit polled yesterday said race was important to them and "only 54% of those said they would vote for Obama".

Now, let's say that the exit-polled voters are an accurate representation of all PA Dem voters. And let's further assume that the 99.51% of votes currently counted can safely be rounded up to 100% for the purpose of this exercise.

Therefore, 100% of PA voting Dems = 2,268,935
Race is important to 16% = 363,030
"only 54% would vote for Obama" = 196,036
those who would not vote for him on the basis of race = 166,994
which is what percent of the total PA vote? = 7.36%

If Hillary won by somewhere between 8.5 and 9.8 percent, racism accounted for 7.36% of that amount. I find this interesting and very sad.

I also find it not very applicable to the general for a couple of reasons. First, Pennsylvania is a whiter and poorer state than many, which makes it more racist than many. A 7.36% white racism vote would not apply in states like CA, TX, NY, etc. And second, I assume any competent Democrat will be able to win by a margin that won't be endangered by a 7% racism vote.

-- volney

PS There's another bunch of bigots who would never vote for a woman. Too bad we don't have any exit polling on that demographic, but apparently we don't.

Friedman married a Billionaire's daughter. 

h my, but the commoners can be uncontrollable. 

We need more gates and less community!

After the pie hit Friedman and splattered on his face and torso, the two jumped offstage and ran out of the southeast exit of the building, followed closely by a man trying to catch them. A police officer also ran toward the exit but stayed inside.

Pat wrote "Tom, what would Clinton do that would be good for the country?  How would she be different substantially from McCain?"

The answer to this question is simple, and forms the most important reason why any Democrat should be supported against McCain this November.  Think of the havoc played by the Republican dominated Congress during Bush's first term and a half:  Tax legislation, appointment approvals, talk of the nuclear option, invading a country.  He sat there sucking his thumb the whole time.

Once Democrats took the reins and started sending meaningful legislation to the White House, the President went on a veto rampage.  Now Democrats should attain a working majority in both houses.  When they pass legislation, the Democratic president will sign it.

Phil, thanks for the news about the Golan Heights.  I'll look for articles on this later . . . or maybe Fred will chime in.

Tom, you're arguing well today - but then, truth is on your side.

Seashell, did you take note of my tango move last night?

Love the bass. 

Ignore the trolls, Fred.

That scenario doesn't stand a *snow's chance in hell* of happening because the Dem party will cease to exist if it does.

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The coat-tailers would go nuts.

X

Wow, my last just jumped infront of my last couple.  Hoigh five, Danny...you must be ashamed to have ever come aboard.  wOOt!

If Hillary ran in the GE the RAM (Republican Attack Machine) will spin the Lewinsky affair against Hillary as

"Do you want this guy back in the White House" will the video of Bill pointing his finger and saying "I did not have sex with that woman"

This is ELECTABILITY?  for Hillary?

Lazy

Heard more stories about how Hillary people behaved. Up in Scranton, where she did the best, they had to issue mace to all of the Obama office workers, and the police had a car outside 24/7. One staffer's entire job was to drive around and replace the Obama campaign signs that had been removed or defaced with racist graffiti. The longest a sign went unmolested was 12 hours. Did that happen to any of Hillary's campaign offices? I guess the creative class isn't as violent as those regular folks.

http://mithras.blogs.com/blog/2008/04/her-supporters.html

Volney - racism can work both ways. You're assuming it was all white voters not voting for a black candidate? What about the reverse - a black voter not wanting to vote for a white? Despite Bill's lying protests - he and some surrogates have played the race card and I imagine that doesn't sit too well with many in the AA community.

Keith and Chuck Todd said this race is essentially over. I understand being passionate for ones candidate but one also must face reality - as we all had to do. That was tough. I still hanker for a Dean presidency but realize it will never be.

And the last was first.

TFG there is a new thread.  Find it, if it is your will.   

Well, it's been an exhausting day.  How do politicians do it? 

I'll stick with my main premise that an under educated and poorly educated community, ignorant, biased, and with no purpose beyond self will not elect good leaders.  It's rather a miracle that Barack Obama has offered his services.  

Our rotting infrastructure is our people's needs: housing, safety, security, community, education, goals, morality, high aspirations, and we are paying for it.  We've known this for 30 years, but we don't want to pay more taxes, especially if the schools don't suit us or our children are no longer in school etc.  We have created this ignorant, polarized, nonreading and  unthinking citizenry, and it will take generations to rebuild if we even have the will.

No, I don't see Obama as a liar, don't see him in any respect in the same category as Clinton and McCain.  He's not that kind of person, and people can say all they want as far as labeling him, it doesn't work.  The man has character, intellect, conscience, and knowledge of what it is to be a mixed race child in a hostile society.  He knows where it's at.

And, Jo, I respect your decision and yours Tom, but my vote is my support for the morality, the character, the service I expect of a candidate.  My vote says I'm with you; I trust you; I"ll listen to you and consider what you say.  I cannot vote for someone with bad charactter, and frankly, if this country thinks it isn't responsibile for the wellbeing and education of its citizens, my vote won't make any difference whatsoever.  The marching morons rule the day, and I won't be complicit.

If Roe versus Wade is overturned, then We the People are to blame; if right wing ideologues, of which we already have too many in the Justice Department take over, an ignorant, biased, self-indulgent population can't stop that.  We the People are this country, and I won't sacrifice my conscience because my country doesn't care, my country exploits, my country has no morality, no vision anymore.  I am a Conscientious Objector when it comes to voting for someone who does not have the character or the commitment to serve the people int his counrty well. 

reposting from the last thread, #93 What Are Progressive Values

Good arguments, and that's where I am now.  Thanks for the perspective.

95.  Jo*in*Vermont,

 this is a discussion about values.  Conservatives openly base all their polices on values,  no health care, no health care for children, people dieing in needless wars and occupation,  people being tortured as we speak,  people dieing as we speak from lack of health care. etc. etc. 

Conservatives mentioned their values and principles  at every turn and at every one of their  primary speeches. 

David Brooks just mentioned on the News Hour, ' the flag pin question on the last debate is a VALUES issue!'  Did anyone say  "what the hell are you talking about?  what kind of values do conservative really have?"

 'I am sick and tired of ' no one taking this topic up and instead handing it over to the conservatives on a silver platter. The media, democrats, liberals, progressives ..etc..

Sorry, but the conversation will no longer be one way..   it's now time to start questioning Failed Conservative Values.  If their values can't hold up to scrutiny.. we'll, maybe they should find some that do. I'm not promoting; name calling, demeaning, superiority, put downs, but a real conversation, some real questioning. Which means we have to question progressive values as well.

You don't heal brutality by sweeping it under the rug. I'm thinking democrats have a codependent relationship with conservatives. 'If we just love them more, maybe they will not be so self-centered and violent.  I think it's time for a divorce.  It's time to stop the petty bickering and move out and make an emotional and independent break."  Sure, show by example, but call it like you see it as well.

The conversation is now opened

   I remember how depressed I was on election night 04. The results coming in showing all those states going Red. By the end of the night I thought to myself, perhaps Americans are getting what they truly deserve. Stupid leadership for a stupid people?  I call the phenomenon "the dumbing of America." 

Well, it's been an exhausting day.  How do politicians do it? 

The homeless are prisoners without a sentence that can sometimes stay in concentration camps called rescue missions!  Other homeless folks aren't that lucky and are abandoned on to the streets to be arrested and/or to die!!  Let's click here to consider what the role of our DFA staff has been thus far in the matter: http://messages.yahoo.com/Government_%26_Politics/Politics/threadview?m=tm&bn=18067330&tid=8344&mid=8344&tof=11&frt=2