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DFA Endorsed candidate Roy Carter visits student's sit-in over workers rights

Written by: Mike Cooper on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT

Roy Carter, candidate for U.S. Congress came to visit,the students who were staging a sit-in against Appalachian State Univeristy using sweatshops to produce their apparell.

Carter arrived as the students awoke on Friday morning and delivered them doughnuts, and stayed with them as long as he could.

Update: Realizing that Carter's presence and The Nation offering to do a story on it, the University threw the kids out, and had the six that peacefully remained arrested.

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ASU Students Arrested on Third Day of Sit-In:

ASU Students Arrested on Third Day of Sit-In

The arrest Friday night of five Appalachian State University students and one non-student member of the local community caps a year-and-a-half struggle by a local chapter of United Students Against Sweatshops to get the university administration to take action to insure that none of the souvenir apparel items bearing the university’s insignia is sweatshop-produced.

The students want the university to sign on to the "Designated Suppliers Program" (DSP), which is affiliated with the Workers Rights Consortium and is dedicated to ensuring that apparel made with university logos is produced under humane conditions. As of the first of March, some 181 American colleges and universities have affiliated, including Duke University and UNC-Chapel Hill.

We won't go into the evils of sweatshop labor here, except to point out that Appalachian State University claims it has taken steps to avoid the use of it through membership in something called the Fair Labor Association, which the United Students Against Sweatshops considers a sham org dominated by big corporations (like Nike) and which offers "a weak code that fails to provide for women's rights, a living wage, the full public disclosure of factory locations, or university control over the monitoring process."

Background to the Arrests
The local chapter of United Students Against Sweatshops (USAS) launched its "Sweatfree Campus Campaign" in the fall of 2006. Local students did research on the licensees of ASU-sanctioned clothing and presented it to Chancellor Ken Peacock, along with information on the DSP. In the subsequent meeting with the chancellor, the students realized that he had not read the material, "so the meeting was spent explaining concepts to him."

After that initial meeting, Chancellor Peacock appeared to lose interest in the students' concerns and delegated his "chief of staff" Lorin Baumhover to meet with them. Baumhover, according to the students, was antagonistic from the beginning, saying that USAS needed "scholarly research" to prove that DSP monitoring works and that the students needed to prove to the administration that they had campus-wide support.

The students went to work. They produced a 50-page research packet and delivered it to Chancellor Peacock's office and successfully lobbied both the SGA Senate and the Faculty Senate to pass resolutions in favor of dropping the university's affiliation with the Fair Labor Assn. and affiliating instead with the DSP (the SGA legislation, SB 040-005, ishere, and Faculty Senate Res. FS 06-07/04-30-01 is here). The student government and faculty senate actions were taken in the spring of 2007 -- ironic, since by April 2007 Chancellor Peacock had ceased to respond at all to USAS e-mails.

In August 2007, Lorin Baumhover brought university attorney Dayton Cole to a meeting with USAS representatives. Attorney Cole made his case that DSP actually violated anti-trust laws, a point the students could counter with numerous legal opinions to the contrary written by the D.C. law firm of Baker & Miller (available here on the Workers Rights Consortium website), and besides, the students' proposal to Chancellor Peacock contained the proviso that ASU would adopt the program only AFTER the U.S. Dept. of Justice had determined the legality of the DSP.

Through August into September 2007, repeated e-mail and phone attempts by USAS to speak directly with Chancellor Peacock were met by silence.

The Students Get Creative
At the September 6, 2007, Convocation, which featured immigration expert Paul Cuadros, USAS was ready and unfurled a huge banner in the Holmes Center urging the university to take action on guaranteeing that sweatshop labor did not go into the production of ASU apparel. Several thousand ASU freshmen were thus informed for the first time that there might be a problem with the top administrators at their institution.

On October 3, 2007, USAS participated in an "international day of action" by covering the Yosef statue with tin foil and erecting a sign: "Sweatshops Reflect Poorly on ASU." The students also delivered a giant fake check for 25 cents, made out to Ken Peacock, to the chancellor's office, a visual representation of what the students say would be the retail price increase on a T-shirt made by a worker earning a living wage. The students also asked, again, for the Chancellor to make a decision on the DSP proposal.

Lorin Baumhover finally responds to student e-mails, says the only possible time to meet with them is during final exams for the fall semester.

Chancellor Peacock makes, then breaks an appointment with three-hours' notice on Dec. 5, 2007. Then on the next day, Dec. 6, Peacock gives over the students once again to his chief hatchetman Lorin Baumhover and the university attorney Dayton Cole. The students are told that ASU refuses to participate in the DSP. Furthermore, they feel that Dayton Cole is lying to them by "fabricating nonexistent legal opinions to support ASU's position."

January 23, 2008, USAS participates in another "day of action," presenting a framed "Certificate of Disappreciation" to Chancellor Peacock.

February 14, 2008, Valentine's Day, the Chancellor's office is treated to an "international phone and e-mail bomb" urging him to sign on to the DSP. ASU students drop by Peacock's office to deliver handmade valentines. Chancellor calls an emergency meeting with USAS, refuses once again to adopt their proposals but agrees "to reopen negotiations." Follow-up e-mails from USAS to Peacock thanking him for the meeting and asking to move forward on his promise to reopen negotiations go unanswered.

March 20, 2008 ... silent rally at Peacock's office to symbolize his silence and failure to follow through on his promise for open dialogue.

Wednesday of this week, April 9, noon: while a large group of students rally for DPS outside the administration building (the photo above, taken by Clair Baxter for The Appalachian), a small delegation enters the chancellor's office for a non-violent protest sit-in. Within minutes University cops arrive with hand-cuffs, Tasers, and other implements of enforcement and tell the students they will be arrested if they don't leave.

The students leave but go downstairs to the interior lobby, a public space they say they intend to occupy until Chancellor Peacock meets with them. University cops say they will be arrested when the building closes at 5 p.m. But they are not arrested, and the building is locked. Some nine students spend the night in that lobby. The next day, Thursday, other students join the protest, which continues uninterrupted through Thursday night and all day Friday, with a varying number of students participating at any one time. Several university cops babysit them through the vigil.

Suddenly, Friday night about 7 p.m., the six individuals then present in the administration building are arrested, hand-cuffed, and taken to a local magistrate and booked for trespass and disorderly conduct. They were freed on bail shortly afterward.

Why would ASU wait until Friday night for the arrest? One of the sit-in organizers thought it might have something to do with Saturday's planned open house for prospective freshmen. Several thousand high school students and their parents are on campus today, and it just wouldn't do for them to see civil disobedience going on at the admin. bldg.

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT

Dean is first!

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 13, 2008 10:28 PM EDT

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By rich^kolker on Apr 14, 2008 10:04 AM EDT

Truthtellers are first -- and the Doc is certainly one.

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By former on Apr 14, 2008 10:35 AM EDT

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Obama, in his critique of Hillary is playing with fire........he is forgetting, he will NEED her votes in Novemeber.............sometimes I think these so called "professional" politicians are quite immature................I cannot fathom JFK or FDR ever acting as childish as some of these people today..............
There are many Americans that like him, but wish not to be part of the overly loud, voisterous church congregation.................
How far we have declined...................
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Watching Obama I’m saying:
Thanks God, “we’ve declined” not as far as I was afraid of. Thanks God there is some “immature”, “non-professional” politicians left who simply won’t “playing safe” as McCain and Hillary do.

One can CHANGE NOTHING without “playing with fire”!

That’s everyone’s choice whom to support. Either ones “acting as childish...” who aren’t “playing safe” or others, the “professionals”, those who for sure already forgot long ago how NOT to “play safe”.

One can’t sit on both chairs simultaneously or….will fall in between...lol.

Go Obama, by NOT PLAYING SAFE!!!

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By Michael Ellis on Apr 14, 2008 10:22 AM EDT
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Show me where I said that and ill concede..................Ive pictured Obama as the nominee all along but failing miserably in the general election........................

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 10:36 AM EDT

Hillary's choice is revealing.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

Which makes her no better than Republicans.

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By Monica Smith on Apr 14, 2008 10:23 AM EDT

At first read this title is a little misleading.  I read it as Carter being on the students side, rather than the workers.  So, I was disappointed and only read it to see how we'd been wrong again.   Perhaps, if mike cooper comes around, he could edit the title.  You know, something like "Carter joins students in support of workers."

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By Michael Ellis on Apr 14, 2008 10:24 AM EDT
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Obama was playing it safe until a few weeks ago..but by evening the playing field with Hillary and Mccain with silly, stupid remarks at times he is opening the door to disaster................which many predicted would happen.............

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By Michael Ellis on Apr 14, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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Linda,

The random element in all of this, of course is the voter and the electoral map may not play favourable with eother Hillary or Obama come the Fall................no, I wont vote this election and hold true to my principles thank you.........................like you said, enough is enough.

I dont know who coaches these candidates in this day and age..............they kep puting their foots in their mouths................just whats needed for the people in the key electoral states to play it safe with Mccain.............100 years of war aint so bad, especially if you arent the one fighting it................

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By Monica Smith on Apr 14, 2008 10:31 AM EDT

michael ellis,

Hillary has exactly one vote in November, like everyone else.  What you're suggesting with your argument is that Hillary has control over a large number of Democrats.  There's no evidence for that.  There's evidence that she thinks she has control; that she wants to have control; that she needs to have control.  But the reality is, as every adult should know, that we don't always get what we want.

Hillary wanting to win is particularly sad, because an election is not a game of chance or something to be won.  An election is a decision by a great many people to designate a public official.  Perhaps Hillary's problem is that she's not really very familiar with the hiring process and didn't notice that in New York state she really was an affirmative action hire whose job got renewed either because she wasn't expected to stay long or because people thought that she deserved a second chance. 

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By Phil Specht on Apr 14, 2008 10:46 AM EDT

a Howardly to the group involved in the action at Appalachian State

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you have Obama wrong and former has it right, and I'm a little surprised

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By Phil Specht on Apr 14, 2008 10:49 AM EDT

back to Wellstone and the carburation mixture of love and anger that leads to positive action

Obama has it right, and if you aren't a little mad you just haven't been paying attention

you have to add the love

then do it

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By Phil Specht on Apr 14, 2008 10:53 AM EDT

this moment provides a great opportunity for Obama to put the hammer down on McCain

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By Phil Specht on Apr 14, 2008 10:55 AM EDT

since McCain and Clinton are using the same talking points he can direct his response against McCain now that he made his point rebutting Hillary

PA can go ahead and give him a victory and seal the deal

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 11:10 AM EDT

For all you football fans out there: Rooney (Steelers' owner) is endorsing Barack today.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08105/873...

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By Phil Specht on Apr 14, 2008 11:02 AM EDT

this gun owner is planning on a turkey dinner in the next few days, because I just bought a tag, and since I fed them all winter know that they are fat and corn fed

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By audrey.nc on Apr 14, 2008 11:16 AM EDT



Susan Rowe.....

Just contributed to Roy Carter..felt good.

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By volney simmons on Apr 14, 2008 11:18 AM EDT

mary @ 16

Endorsement by Art Rooney is a big deal in western PA, which is where Obama needs a little boost. The Steelers are a huge deal in their hometown and Steelers fans remain diehard even after they move elsewhere (like friends of mine here who originally come from PGH).

Obama campaigning with Jerome Bettis and Franco Harris is, interestingly, a page out of Hillary's Senate campaign playbook here in Western NY (a lot like western PA). Here in WNY, she campaigned with Buffalo Bills then-quarterback Doug Flutie and it did get her votes.

Of course, if Obama campaigned with Flutie today, Hill's people would be sending out vicious e-mails questioning Obama's consrting with an Arab-American, LOL. (Flutie is of Lebanese extraction.)

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 11:32 AM EDT

buffered copper number four shot-----that's great Phil but I want to know if you can knock back a shot without sipping. LOL

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 11:35 AM EDT

ARG out with new PA poll. what the heck is going on there?

http://americanresearchgroup.com/

I'm getting nervous - a 20 point win by Hillary won't be good.

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By * rdorgan on Apr 14, 2008 11:33 AM EDT

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Obama may be taking some out of their comfort zone, but these are good conversations to have.  as for the crap about this only comes out when he's in 'liberal' circles, perhaps some of these investigative reporters should read his books - he realyed the same thing in his writings, many years ago.

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What I notice about Obama is that he isn't one to simply blame society for one's problems.  At times in his books and in his speeches, he has spoken about the various societal disadvantages for AAs but he has also criticized self-defeatist personal behavior amongst some in the AA community (ie. those black male teenagers that ostricize other black male teenagers who seriously want to excel in school, that criticism can come in the words like "you're acting white"; hip-hop music derogatory to women; etc.).

Well, to the rural (largely) white community, comes the talk about being bitter -- bitter about various societal disadvantages for often poor or barely middle class whites.  But he has also mentioned about personal behavior in which distractions from one's problems come in the form of drinking, gun usage, religion, whatever.  In other words, the real problems of the economy etc. don't get seriously addressed, so instead try to forget about them by getting distracted/getting one's esteem up through the power of a gun, of religious salvation, of the atmosphere of a bar, etc.

Maybe I'm analyzing things too much but Obama doesn't neatly fit into a liberal nor a conservative box, and that why he appeals to so many different type of Americans, who really want to start being empowered again.  

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 11:34 AM EDT

haha!  a reporter at Hillary's stump speech right now said the crowd let out a real groan when she brought up her 'Obama looks down on you' spiel.  she's really pushing this in a bad direction - SHE appears to be the one who's 'out of touch'. I do really think most folks are sick of her tactics.

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By volney simmons on Apr 14, 2008 11:35 AM EDT

Excessive exposure to his ads is causing them to vote for her???

Oh good Lord.

There has to be a better way to elect people than this.

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By * rdorgan on Apr 14, 2008 11:36 AM EDT

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I'm not surprised.

Mike likes to play it safe by not getting attached to any horse in the race.

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 AM EDT

A commenter on the Obama website wrote this (partial statement) about a comment Hillary made at the CNN Compassion Forum last night:

She called poor people "The least"? What is that supposed to mean? I am poor, but as human beings, even Sen. Clinton is not superior to me. And she calling Sen.Obama elitist? who is the elit in this equation?

I didn't watch Clinton last night but I don't think she should be getting yet another free pass on this insulting "misstatement."

BO was excellent in all respects and really in his own element.

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 11:57 AM EDT



volney simmons
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There has to be a better way to elect people than this.

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 11:44 AM EDT

rdorgan, re:  In other words, the real problems of the economy etc. don't get seriously addressed, so instead try to forget about them by getting distracted/getting one's esteem up through the power of a gun, of religious salvation, of the atmosphere of a bar, etc.

the biggest thing I took away from his comments was that too many politicians for too long have played upon and really encouraged those distractions and growing the divisions where ever possible.   I've noticed that other than the initial report from CNN, I haven't heard anyone put his words into their original context - I believe the question was why do folks vote against their own interests by voting republican.  the press will try to bleed this for what it's worth, but I think his light taunting of 'Annie Oakley' defused it a bit and got folks listening again - to him, not the pundits.

Hillary abviously doesn't believe American voters are smart enough to understand what he was saying - she thinks she can spin this to her advantage.  it's not going to work for her or McCain.  (we'll get a hint in about 8 days....!)

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 11:47 AM EDT

Joan - I think that statement was made when she was speaking in a biblical fashion - such as in 'the least of us...'.  I wouldn't slam Hillary for it until I know the context.

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 11:47 AM EDT

mary

I would not get upset about ARG's polls. They are often quoted but almost always strike out big.

ARG was the poll that gave Obama a 17 point lead in NH the day before their primary.

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By * rdorgan on Apr 14, 2008 11:47 AM EDT

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speaking of polls:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080414/POLITICS/804140415

Monday, April 14, 2008   Michigan poll shows McCain, Obama in close contest  Gordon Trowbridge / Detroit News Washington Bureau

Democrat Barack Obama holds a small lead over John McCain in the race for Michigan's 17 electoral votes, but McCain holds a significant lead over Hillary Clinton in a new poll released Monday.

Obama, the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, leads McCain 43 percent to 41 percent, according to the survey by Lansing polling firm EPIC-MRA.

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McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, holds a 46-37 edge over Clinton.

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By Michael Ellis on Apr 14, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
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My last "horse" was Kerry and that was under semi protest then, I vowed after that never to do that again...............Ill write in a Green candidate or something to that effect.............

BO has not met my standards yet.........the others.......forget it...........se la vee.

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 11:51 AM EDT

Joan - I think that statement was made when she was speaking in a biblical fashion

Jo, 

Perhaps. Butthat would no doubt be Hillary's explanation, but I have my own doubts.

If left to her to explain, she would surely whitewash it in any way should could. I honestly don't think Hillary has the capacity to speak in a biblical fashion.

Obama was not given a free pass until he had a chance to explain his statements.

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By Indy Steve on Apr 14, 2008 12:07 PM EDT
Indiana is key -- Obama in full court press! Hotlistby IndySteve Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 11:25:03 AM PDT

Like the small school which upset the big city team in the movie Hoosiers, Indiana's primary on May 6 is a key primary to change the dynamic in a big way. Both Clinton and Obama are here, vying for votes because they realize it is the next battleground over momentum. It may be the beginning of the end for Hillary Clinton in Indiana. Here's why below the fold...

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By * rdorgan on Apr 14, 2008 11:54 AM EDT

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I give credit to anyone here who had backed another candidate (who withdrew) and who is backing Obama now. 

It's not been easy and if the tables had been turned, I don't know if I would have handled it as professionally and as seemlessly as these other bloggers here.

The ball is in the court of the PA voters now.

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 11:57 AM EDT

For all you football fans out there: Rooney (Steelers' owner) is endorsing Barack today

 

That ought to change a whole bunch of black and gold minds:))

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 12:12 PM EDT

Robert Reich on Obama's bitter comments.

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2008/04/...

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 12:16 PM EDT

RCP has PA in a virtual dead heat. Clinton +3

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article...

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 12:03 PM EDT

joan - ...Obama was not given a free pass until he had a chance to explain his statements.

I didn't say give her a pass, just get the context first, then Barack should blast away if appropriate!! 

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 12:08 PM EDT

The ball is in the court of the PA voters now.

 

Not really rd.

Obama's has a huge insurmountable  lead in pledged delegates. That's what wins the nomination, no matter what the Hillary people would have us believe.

Count by electoral votes? Hardly, and an impossibility anyway.

Popular votes? Obama has that lead too. Caucus voters in most states are not counted, only the resulting delegates are what matters. So one would have to have a formula to add those popular voters to Obama's count, in which case his popular vote lead would at least double. (Olbermann had a bit on this last week, work done by some professor.)

Stealing SD's? Will never happen. The party would be ruined. Also, those House Dems realize the coattails Obama has and Hillary doesn't have.

So why is Hillary still in this? There's many ideas floating around in answer to that question.

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By FRED from OR on Apr 14, 2008 12:23 PM EDT

Retrial ordered based on mold

Saturday, April 12, 2008By Jim O'haraStaff writer

A Syracuse woman convicted and jailed on charges she tried to suffocate her baby eight years ago deserves a new trial based on photographs that indicate the 7-week-old daughter may have suffered from toxic mold exposure, a judge ruled this week....

Had Gallishaw actuallytried to suffocate her baby, there would have been bleeding on both sides, he noted. The infant's breathing difficulties could clearly have been caused by exposure to mold, and the bleeding that doctors found likely was caused by an improperly inserted endotracheal, Dearborn concluded.

Gallishaw's case was similar to many of the cases in Dearborn's Cleveland study in that it involved poor African-Americans and public housing, Smith said....

http://www.syracuse.com/poststandard/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-13/120600340617791.xml&coll=1&thispage=3

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By volney simmons on Apr 14, 2008 12:12 PM EDT

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It's a Biblical quote. Jesus said, "What you do to the least of these, you do to me."

Meaning the least powerful, least weathy, least clean, least intelligent, least kind, least "deserving". Fill in the blank.

However you treat whoever you think of as "least" is how you are treating God.

We are enjoined to respect each other even if it kills us. LOL

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By Jeff Morris on Apr 14, 2008 12:16 PM EDT

   It sounds to me like the planned open house on Sat. had everything to do with the student arrests on Fri. night. An attempt to sweep the pesky problem under the rug, if just for the sake of Saturdays planned event.         JM in NY 

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 12:17 PM EDT

Mary

thanks for the link to this excellent piece by Robert Reich. Bet  the MSM won't have him on any shows in the near future.

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2008/04/...

 

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By FRED from OR on Apr 14, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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Clinton should be careful what she prays for (as the saying goes) she might get it.

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 12:38 PM EDT

I think Reich should go on Keith's show. KO will let him speak - unlike Tweety who talks over every one of his guests. He can be so nauseating.

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By mary vb on Apr 14, 2008 12:38 PM EDT

Forgot to hat tip Daily Kos for the Reich piece.

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 12:26 PM EDT

excellent reich post, mary!  ba da boom!

We’re heading into the worst economic crisis in a half century or more. Many of the Americans who have been getting nowhere for decades are in even deeper trouble. Large numbers of people in Pennsylvania and across the nation are losing their homes and losing their jobs, and the situation is likely to grow worse. Consumers are at the end of their ropes, fuel and food costs are skyrocketing, they can’t go deeper into debt, they can’t pay their bills. They aren’t buying, which means every business from the auto industry to housing to even giant GE is hurting. Which means they’ll begin laying off more people, and as they do, we will experience an even more dangerous downward spiral.

Bitter? You ain’t seen nothing yet. And as much as people like Russert, Carville, Matalin, Schrum, and Murphy want to divert our attention from what’s really happening; as much as HRC and McCain seek to make political hay out of choices of words that can be spun cynically by the mindless spinners of the old politics; as much as demagogues on the right and left continue to try to channel the cumulative frustrations of Americans into a politics of resentment – all these attempts will, I hope, prove futile. Eighty percent of Americans know the nation is on the wrong track. The old politics, and the old media that feeds it, are irrelevant now.

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By FRED from OR on Apr 14, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
Published on WallStreetWindow (http://www.wallstreetwindow.com/content)The Bear is Out of the Box (Excerpt) - Mike Swanson (04/13/08)By Mike SwansonCreated 04/13/2008 - 12:24

I'm not the only one worried about the market. George Soros came out of retirement and has taken back control of his hedge fund to make money shorting the market. You may have been trained to hate him by Bill O'Reilly and FOX News where they demonize Soros for opposing George Bush and his Iraq war game, but when it comes to financial markets he has a history of being right and being right big. He is one of the most successful investors in history.

At 77 years old he appears to be coming out of retirement with the goal of making a name of himself for the history books. He is releasing a new book called "The New Paradigm for Financial Markets" in which he claims we are witnessing the bursting of a "superbubble." He claims we are in the "biggest financial crisis of my lifetime." According to the International Herald Tribune:...

http://www.wallstreetwindow.com/content/print/6373

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By Joan In Florida on Apr 14, 2008 12:35 PM EDT

 

 Tweety who talks over every one of his guests. He can be so nauseating. 

There has been some "talk" about Matthews' contracts not be extended next year because of some outrageous things he has said and done. Replacement might be David Gregory.
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By rich^kolker on Apr 14, 2008 12:58 PM EDT

Off topic,

One of the hotbeds of support for Dean for America in Virginia was the campus of Virginia Tech, and the Blacksburg area in general.

Many (MANY!) years before that, I had, for a short ime, been a student at Tech, spending most time at the campus radio station WUVT (which is why I only spent a SHORT time there).

Well, the station is celebrating its 60th Anniversary, and this past weekend invited all of us back to exchange stories and even do an airshift on the station.

Fortunately, my time back on the radio is not available anywhere outside of the CD they recorded for me.  The technology has changed so much in the radio business (and I've been out of the business for 25 years) it ws really quite embarassing.

That being said, WUVT (http://www.wuvt.vt.edu) streams online and these days plays a really eclectic mic of music, so stop by some time, check out their schedule, and I'm sure you'll find something to like.  Lucky for you, you won't find me.

If you like what you hear, donate a few bucks to keep the station going. 

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 12:45 PM EDT

Joan - this piece that came out in the NYT this weekend about tweety mentions his job insecurity and has some pretty good examples of his arrogant attitude. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/13/magazine/13matthews-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

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By FRED from OR on Apr 14, 2008 1:02 PM EDT

Barack Obama has a very deep understanding of human nature, not from studying psychology or sociology, but from life experiences, the kinds few of us will ever have.  He grew up in different cultures, with different racial and cultural identities.

Someone who is not aware of this can easily misinterpret this understanding as an elitist disposition, rather than the empathy that it is.  As people get to know Mr. Obama, this is less of a problem, but for now Clinton is trying to maximize the misunderstand as much as possible.  She is gambling that people will not get to know him and find out how cynical she is.

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By Michael Ellis on Apr 14, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
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Its 1.14 Fred.......great post and thanks.........I have little or no problem with what BO says........Joe n Jane 6 Pack  is what worries me........Swedish eh?

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By Michael Ellis on Apr 14, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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Great post and spot on Jo.............its 1.18 pm........Just for the hell of it, in maintainign my literary pursuits, i have recenlty begun to study the depression era............cause and effect, how many survived/didnt survive sort of thing................bread lines and soup kitchens may make a comeback............

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By Phil Specht on Apr 14, 2008 1:08 PM EDT

had an uncle that road the rails, worked for the CCC

discuss it on the new thread

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 14, 2008 1:29 PM EDT

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Susan Rowe.....

Just contributed to Roy Carter..felt good.

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Thank you!

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Apr 14, 2008 1:41 PM EDT

Susan - I really appreciate the efforts you've made for Roy - he sounds like a great guy!!  best of luck with his campaign!

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By FRED from OR on Apr 14, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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Its 1.14 Fred.......great post and thanks

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Thanks for the positive feedback (it seems your "outpatient procedure" was successful! - just kidding) - but seriously folks

if you want to read a really funny book on the American-Norwegian immigrant experience in the USA - try to pick up an old copy of "Lake Wobegon Days"  - the culture is very similar to Swedes - reading it now when on the toilet.

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By Annilow on Apr 14, 2008 2:44 PM EDT

59. Too much information Fred

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