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I met Jeremy at a Wellstone training in Sacramento, California. He feels that responsibility is the most important progressive value and that conservatives have falsely defined democrats, liberals, and progressives as "tax and spend." He feels it's good that progressives are now speaking out about their values and that they actually are about fiscal responsibility.
Responsibility, n. A detachable burden easily shifted to the shoulders of God, Fate, Fortune, Luck or one's neighbor. In the days of astrology it was customary to unload it upon a star. The Devil's Dictionary
Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. George Bernard Shaw
Progressive Values Stories: Jeremy on Responsibility
My name is Jeremy. I’m a progressive.
Edwin: Can you tell me what you feel progressive values are?
Answer: I think progressive values have been shaped by awhile by the opposite side, of what we are not. Now it’s starting to become more of what we are. And I think progressive values are now expanding to include even things that are considered to be conservative values. Like fiscal responsibility. Using finances in a way that actually invests in our future and doesn’t waste money, like on wars that do nothing for us. On wasted projects – pork spending and what not.
I think progressive is about using the resources we have as a country, and using them for good causes, to build a future and to reach out to people in general.
Edwin: So it sounds like your saying it’s responsibility. Can you boil it down to responsibility?
Answer: Yes. Responsibility is what progressivism is about. Responsibility and respect. Responsibility is the key to having a successful relationship with people who are important to you in your life, and is the key to a relationship with everyone. And your larger community, your small community, your family. It’s natural. It makes sense. You want people around you to be happy, and that helps you too. It’s natural, so Responsibility and respect are definitely part of who I am and an important part of looking at things.
And I think it’s important to look forward and see something to strive to, to become better people, to make a better community. And I think that’s important for us to look at in our own lives, and important for us to look at as we as a people, as a community, as a political entity, as people who are just trying to live and run a community and a government.
Republicans will define Democrat, they’ll define liberals, and the left, and progressives, and lump them all into this big bag of like “tax and spend” and “reckless”, and “getting rid of important conservative values”, “the things that make our country great”, “anti-patriotic.”
And I don’t think that’s true in any of those categories. I think it’s very patriotic to be progressive, to explore ideas of building a community, of looking at what’s best for a community, of looking toward a brighter future, which I think is the essence of what it means to be progressive, to be responsible, to be respectful in those ways.
I find it sad that that sort of stigma sticks so strongly. I think it’s good that progressives are now speaking out, embracing a lot of ideas , and giving their values support and not being held back by what the Right, the Republican machine has labeled them. And I think when people really start to see that, a lot more people will find that they define themselves in that way too.
But progressive do embrace ideas of fiscal responsibility and real community building things, and strong family, but different types of family too, and being welcoming, and environment. I think more people would find that to be a good message, and good values on its own.
More About Responsibility
"People need responsibility. They resist assuming it, but they cannot get along without it."
John Steinbeck
Definition:
- the social force that binds you to the courses of action demanded by that force;
- The state of being responsible, accountable, or answerable, as for a trust, debt, or obligation.
Example: "every right implies a responsibility every opportunity, an obligation; every possession, a duty"- John D.Rockefeller Jr;
- the proper sphere or extent of your activities;
- a form of trustworthiness; the trait of being answerable to someone for something or being responsible for one's conduct;
Example: "he holds a position of great responsibility"
http://www.freedictionary.org/?Query=responsibility
http://www.onelook.com/?w=responsibility&ls=a
Social Responsibility
Social responsibility is an ethical or ideological theory that an entity whether it is a government, corporation, organization or individual has a responsibility to society. This responsibility can be "negative," in that it is a responsibility to refrain from acting (resistance stance) or it can be "positive," meaning there is a responsibility to act (proactive stance). While primarily associated with business and governmental practices, activist groups and local communities can also be associated with social responsibility, not only business or governmental entities. .....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility
More Progressive Values Stories:
I am working on a documentary to answer the question, What are Progressive Values? So far, I have interviewed over 100 progressives and have placed over 350 video clips on YouTube with the various replies. This is part of a continuing series of interviews of progressives telling their personal stories about their progressive values. See ProgressiveSpirit.com
http://progressivespirit.com/InterviewStories/ProgressiveValuesStories.htm
Question: How would you improve these Progressive Values Stories?
Edwin Rutsch
What Are Progressive Values? Documentary Project
http://ProgressiveSpirit.com
and Study Group
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Here is part of Johathan Chiat's amusing article in the New Republic making Clinton's continuing presence in the nomination process sound comparable to the unbearable house guest who refuses to leave:
"The persistent weakness of American liberalism is its fixation with rights and procedures at any cost to efficiency and common sense. Democrats' reluctance to push Clinton out of the race is the perfect expression of that delicate sensibility.
"There is some point at which a candidate's chance of winning becomes so low that her right to continue is outweighed by the party's interest in preparing for the general election. Does Clinton have a chance to become president? Sure. So does Ralph Nader. Clinton's chances are far closer to Nader's than to either Obama's or John McCain's.
"Almost nobody contends that Clinton has a chance to overcome Obama's lead in pledged delegates. The spin now is that Obama's delegate lead is 'small but almost insurmountable' (USA Today) and that, since neither can clinch the nomination with pledged delegates alone, 'the nomination is expected to be in the superdelegates' hands' (Los Angeles Times). These beliefs reflect the mathematical illiteracy that has allowed the press corps to be routinely duped by economic flim-flammery. A lead that's insurmountable is, by definition, not small. The very primary rules that make it impossible for Clinton to catch up--proportionate distribution of delegates that award tiny net sums to the winner--are exactly what made Obama's lead so impressive.
" . . . .
"In an editorial bolstering Clinton's prerogative to stay in the race, The Washington Post insisted, 'No doubt the Democrats have gotten themselves into a fix with rules that may leave the final decision to unelected superdelegates--but why is the answer to that less democracy?'
"Anyone who tried to talk sense into a Ralph Nader supporter in 2000 probably heard some version of this rationale. Giving the voters more candidates is democracy, man. The decision to run is an act of civic virtue that may not be analyzed for its real-world effects. Nader himself dismissed Leahy's call for Clinton to withdraw as 'political bigotry.' He urged, 'Listen to your own inner citizen First Amendment voice. This is America. Just like every other citizen, you have a right to run.'
"A related justification is the 'Think of the Puerto Ricans' defense. As a Clinton campaign memo insists, 'the citizens in Pennsylvania, Guam, North Carolina, Indiana, West Virginia, Oregon, Kentucky, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota have not yet had the opportunity to exercise that fundamental right.' Of course, if Clinton suspended her campaign, those states could still vote for her if they wanted. It's true that their vote wouldn't matter, but that's the way it usually works most of the time anyway. A few months ago, everybody expected the race to be decided after New Hampshire. Now we can't bear to face the fact that the race has been decided after merely 80 percent of the states have weighed in."
These strike me as cogent observations. Complaints that the selection process for the Democratic nominee is byzantine and leads to such conflict in the late stages actually highlight its virtues. It is highly democratic because the candidates have to win a majority of delegates and superdelegates under a system that rewards them for their ability to consistently win voters to their side, rather than briefly win a large number during in a few winner take all contests.
But it shouldn't be a license for one candidate to hang on to a ledge by her fingernails. If Obama has extended his lead in this tightly contested race this long, he deserves the deference of a concession from an opponent who has proven worthy but stubbornly dismisses outright the true distance between them.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20080407/pl_rasmussen/northcarolinaprez20080407_1
North Carolina: Obama 56% Clinton 33%
rasmussenreports.com
Mon Apr 7, 9:24 AM ET
In North Carolina, Barack Obama has opened up a twenty-three percentage point lead over Hillary Clinton. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that Obama attracts 56% of the vote while Clinton earns 33%. A month ago, Obama's lead was just seven percentage points.
While the absolute numbers are different, the trend is similar to results from Pennsylvania where Obama gained ten-points on Clinton during the month of March.
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Jonathan Chiat and New Republic make total sense.
When will the Clintons face the music. They have lost the nomination and no amount of hanging around is going to change anything, including her being selected as a running mate.
Hillary will have to settle soon or later (sooner like now) for going back to the Senate and see what she can drum up there for her future and try to salvage whatever she and Bill have of their reputations.
North Carolina: Obama 56% Clinton 33%
North Carolina workers have lost thousands of jobs to NAFTA, including timber, furniture making, and textiles.Those are the companies I used to see in NC everywhere I went and I was there often, having a daughter who lives there.
Every little town had at least one textile plant, the mountains timbering going on (though I hated to see it and the clear-cut they were using), and furniture making everywhere. We bought a nine piece pecan bedroom suite there years ago and had it shipped to Fla.
North Carolina has suffered at least as bad in job loss as PA and OH though NC loss isn't as visible at PA and OH. Why is there such a difference in the primary voting between PA and OH? Can't PA see that the problem is NAFTA and that Clinton supported NAFTA and still does?
FROM END OF LAST THREAD
21. Michael Ellis
Mon, 04/07/08
12. Huron John
Mon, 04/07/08
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What do you expect from this party.......common sense?
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You guy's sound like a couple of neocons. "Common Sense" is a neocon periodical.
It is not the Dem party that created this dilemma. It's the people, and in the case of FL primary, I hear it was the Republicans that instigated the present situation.
This is a classic duel of the establishment vs. the reformers. However it is complicated by the fact that they are both "firsts" for two constituencies, who've never had one of their own in the White House.
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10. Phil Specht
Mon, 04/07/08
That isn't true. Obama rarely mentions Hillary if at all in his speeches and contrasats his views with McCains at every stop.
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This is true --- and reminiscent of my childhood.
My mother favored my little sister, so when we fought, when I was bad, I got punished.
When my sister was wrong, we both got punished.
We're seeing this here - Hillary attacks Obama. When he responds to defend himself, he's accused of "attacking" Hillary. They both get punished. Obama seldom, if ever, attacks Hillary without provocation, but if he doesn't respond, he's risks being perceived as allowing himself to be "swift boated"
FRED from Ashland OR
Mon, 04/07/08
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Judging by the state at which this country is in, Id say its fair to say that BOTH parties are pretty much to blame......
from the end of the previous thread.
http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24779...
Let me see, Clinton's top guy is a lobbyist for the Columbia government?
And Hil says she is against NAFTA?
Liar.
How sad Hillary. You have lost your reputation.
The other day I happened to post on MYDD that the states of Mi and Fl delegates will not have a vote at the convention even if seated.
I was warned that I would be banned if I said that again. Well I ain't going back to your friggen blog. What does MY DD stand for? Not democracy.
Joan In Florida
Mon, 04/07/08
North Carolina workers have lost thousands of jobs to NAFTA, including timber, furniture making, and textiles.
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BTW NC has the only company in the USA that makes organic cotton knits
Parkdale Mills - sold by Cotton Plus in Texas, where they grow the cotton.
Michael Ellis
Mon, 04/07/08
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Judging by the state at which this country is in, Id say its fair to say that BOTH parties are pretty much to blame......
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The people are to blame too, for falling for the siren song of less taxes and something for nothing. Penny wise and pound foolish in the long run, as the Brits say. 9/11 occurred after the intelligence budget was chopped in half There's enough blame and enough problems for everybody LOL.
Thanks Tom, feeling good about being part of the revolution is its own reward
Members ...Because of the rapid pace of population growth in industrializing cities such as Detroit and Chicago, the Klan grew rapidly in the U.S. Midwest. The Klan also grew in booming Southern cities such as Dallas and Houston.
For some states, historians have obtained membership rosters of some local units and matched the names against city directory and local records to create statistical profiles of the membership. Big city newspapers were often hostile and ridiculed Klansmen as ignorant farmers. Detailed analysis from Indiana show the rural stereotype was false for that state:
"Indiana's Klansmen represented a wide cross section of society: they were not disproportionately urban or rural, nor were they significantly more or less likely than other members of society to be from the working class, middle class, or professional ranks. Klansmen were Protestants, of course, but they cannot be described exclusively or even predominantly as fundamentalists. In reality, their religious affiliations mirrored the whole of white Protestant society, including those who did not belong to any church."
The Klan was successful in recruiting, but the membership turned over rapidly.
In Popular Culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Kla...
The opening scenes of Bad Boys II feature a Klan rally, including a cross burning.
South Park character Eric Cartman has appeared dressed as a Klansman numerous times.
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The Ku Klux Klan's long history of violence grew out of the resentment and hatred many white Southerners felt in the aftermath of the Civil War. Blacks, having won the struggle for freedom from slavery, were now faced with a new struggle against widespread racism and the terrorism of the Ku Klux Klan. While the menace of the KKK has peaked and waned over the years, it has never vanished. ... full report: http://www.iupui.edu/~aao/kkk.html
Disfranchisement and Great Migration Main article: Disfranchisement after the Civil War
The nadir of American race relations is often placed from the end of reconstruction to the 1910s, especially in the South. Once white Democrats regained political power in state legislatures in the 1870s, they passed bills directed at restricting voter registration by blacks and poor whites. Continued low cotton prices, agricultural depression and labor shortages in the South contributed to social tensions. According to Tuskegee Institute, the 1890s was also the peak decade for lynchings, with most of them directed against African Americans in the South. The lynchings were a byproduct of political tensions as white Democrats tried to strip blacks from voter rolls and suppress voting. Some of the violence was directed at trying to break up interracial coalitions that came to power in state legislatures in 1894, with alliances of Populist and Republican parties.[42] In 1896 the Democrats used fraud, violence and intimidation to suppress voting by poor classes, and regained power. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Kla...
Susan Rowe -- I descend from Hoosiers. My Mom RIP used to tell the story of going to a Klan parade or demonstration -- this would have been the early twenties. She went with her date who was to become my uncle, a Roman Catholic, which is one of the groups the Klan doesn't like. Anyway my Mom said she saw her Uncle Walter there -- even though he was hooded -- she said she recognized his shoes. I guess I come from not so 'progressive' folk -- but that was a long time ago.
Parkdale has 16 of their mills in NC, but I don't know which one(s) does the organic cotton products
plant locations
Susan Rowe
Mon, 04/07/08
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Members ...Because of the rapid pace of population growth in industrializing cities such as Detroit and Chicago, the Klan grew rapidly in the U.S. Midwest. The Klan also grew in booming Southern cities such as Dallas and Houston.
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MY uncle's inlaws were wealthy Sicilian immigrants (no, they were not mafioso) who were in the soft drink business. They built a plant in West Virginia in the 1920s because of the glass industry there.
They were run out of town by the Klan. Many people lost their jobs because the Klan didn't want a dark Sicilian owner telling them what to do.
They pulled up stakes and moved to NJ
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http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGBcsl
Indiana: Last Chance to Register to VoteBy Christopher Hass - Apr 7th, 2008 at 12:39 pm EDT
The deadline to register to vote in Indiana is just hours away now — most county clerk offices close at 5:00 PM EST today.
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Indiana's primary is shaping up to be the most competitive that the state has seen since Bobby Kennedy's run in 1968
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Mike wrote "Judging by the state at which this country is in, Id say its fair to say that BOTH parties are pretty much to blame......"
Of course. Not only that, but all the third parties are to blame because they lack popular support and are wholly ineffective. However, simply assigning blame won't be the recipe for improvement.
Both parties were obviously to blame when Dean ran for the presidency, but at least it didn't keep him from sticking his neck out and doing something to change the status quo. Bitching from the sidelines is at once the most satisfying and least helpful alternative when it comes to seeking progressive governance.
Annilow, I was just wondering if you have some sense of the percentage of self-described rednecks who are opera lovers. It would seem like a small subset, particularly when you throw into the description ardent gun rights supporters!
FRED from Ashland OR
Mon, 04/07/08
You guy's sound like a couple of neocons. "Common Sense" is a neocon periodical.
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I was wrong - Common Sense is NOT a neocon publication. (Now, how did I get that idea?)
It may seem obvious to me that a drought was caused by a random change in weather patterns, but to someone who believes in supernatural beings it could seem just as obvious that it's because they've displeased the rain god. Einstein summed it up thus: "Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age 18."
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg19025471.700-the-word-common-sense.html
This article available on April 21, 2008
HERE: http://www.inthesetimes.com/archives/covers_ind/32/05/
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watch this video, it is a little long but faux news got it back at em.
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FRED from Ashland OR
Mon, 04/07/08
11.
Michael Ellis
Mon, 04/07/08
Judging by the state at which this country is in, Id say its fair to say that BOTH parties are pretty much to blame......
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The people are to blame too, for falling for the siren song of less taxes and something for nothing...
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Where have you see people who have fallen for “something for nothing“? I haven’t seen such people.
Only several years ago, in America’s more than 200 years history, the People heard very first time: “you have power”. Before that, they’ve heard only “trust your representative”...lol.
People should not get blamed!
22. Fred they also have a company in NC that makes house insulation out of old jeans, that is denim. We looked into it for our new house we are building in Hertford.
Fred,
There are still some textile mills in NC, but nothing like there used to be. Hanes, Fruit of the Loom, Jockey, and many others were seen just about everywhere in smaller towns in the shadows of Mt. Mitchell and east from Asheville areas to Raleigh.
Since 1997 the rate of job elimination has accelerated. From 1997 to 2002 over 100,000 jobs were eliminated in the textile industry in North Carolina.4 Nearly 70,000 jobs were eliminated during the same period in the apparel industry in North Carolina. While the industries remain a substantial part of the North Carolina economy, their contributions are greatly reduced relative to the 1970s.
Furniture manufacturing in NC fared no better:
The contemporary North Carolina furniture industry is in the worst condition it has ever encountered. In 2002, more than two thirds of domestic production was being imported and market competition from offshore furniture companies was roughly at 50 percent. Today, those numbers are even greater, with no signs of how high they will go. The increased competition from foreign furniture companies and consequent outsourcing of manufacturing services by U.S. companies caused North Carolina to lose 3,474 jobs in furniture plants closing with 50 or more job losses in 2001 alone. In 2002, an additional 2,191 jobs were lost within the first eight months. (Nwagbara, p.22 )
CNN crawl....Howard Dean said that it is unlikely there will be any deal on Fl,Mi, by the end of June. Is Hillary fighting for the nomination still, or just fighting to defend the DLC? How do we defend the democratic wing at the convention? I don't want to spend three days throwing my shoes at the TV. I've developed a pretty good aim in the last 8 years. I could put it out of commission for good.
Send Howard some $$$$.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?videoId=1fd1c0cf-5c80-4d75-996f-bd53b2461ae0&sMPlaylistID
try this link, this is good
Obama lead in NC widens to 23. It would be nice if we could stop her here, but she's not listening to anything but her own voices.
We had to wait until May to vote for Howard, and he was long gone out of the race by then.
Wow. this is something. I have deleated the horrible word that mccain called his wife. but the link to raw story will reveal how mean mccain is.
Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you ????." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_temper_boiled_over_in_92_0407.html
former
Mon, 04/07/08
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People should not get blamed!
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I blame the instigators, the neocons, the most, but in a way they tapped into (or more correctly "exploited") an unhealthy trend toward selfishness in this country. Remember all the talk of the "me" generation?
The liberals and progressive party, Democrats were to blame for fearing the loss of power by not following the direction of the political wind. As things got worse, we acted like lillipuddlians, the middle class blaming the poor and for entitlements soaking up their (tax) money while they had to worker harder on the treadmill to make ends meet. Meanwhile, the super-rich, and wall street moguls was soaking up everybody's money and investing it in China.
Joan In Florida
Mon, 04/07/08
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Fred,
There are still some textile mills in NC, but nothing like there used to be....
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I know - was just doing some free advertising for organic cotton.
linda b
Mon, 04/07/08
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22. Fred they also have a company in NC that makes house insulation out of old jeans, that is denim. We looked into it for our new house we are building in Hertford.
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Thanks for the tip - a link would be convenient, or at least a name?
Great Fox video, lindab! I would love to have Father Pfleger in my corner. He knocked every pitch that the painfully stupid Porter Berry threw at him out of the park.
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linda b
Mon, 04/07/08
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22. Fred they also have a company in NC that makes house insulation out of old jeans, that is denim. We looked into it for our new house we are building in Hertford
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You might also look into pumice concrete for a building material - it seems like the perfect material. Strong, and yet workable with tools, even can be hammered like wood.
7.linda b
Mon, 04/07/08
Let me see, Clinton's top guy is a lobbyist for the Columbia government?
And Hil says she is against NAFTA?
Liar.
How sad Hillary. You have lost your reputation
copyright - golden books, Disney
Fred here is the link to the company that makes insulation out of denim in NC.
35. tom, yes the fox faux reporters have their marching orders from der fuhrer.
how stupid can one be? pretty stupid to me.
42. Fred it is so hard to have a conversation when you don't know where your posts will go.
where is the fix hq???
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http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/mowinstonsalem
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Meet Michelle ObamaWinston-Salem State University
Clarence E. Gaines Center
601 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Drive
Winston-Salem, NC 27110
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008
Doors open: 1:30 p.m.
Program begins: 2:30 p.m.
The event is free and open to the public
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http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/moraleigh
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Meet Michelle ObamaReynolds Coliseum
North Carolina State University
2411 Dunn Ave.
Raleigh, NC 27695
Tuesday, April 8th, 2008
Doors open: 6:30 p.m.
Program begins: 7:30 p.m.
The event is free and open to the public
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He just finished a 6-day bus tour of Pennsylvania, now it's a 3-day tour of Indiana:
http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2008/04/07//updates/breaking_news/doc47fa6f3c8b307202198778.txt
Obama planning three-day Indiana tour
BY THE TIMES | Monday, April 07, 2008
U.S. Sen. Barack Obama is planning a three-day bus tour across Indiana, beginning Wednesday.
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39.linda b
Fred it is so hard to have a conversation when you don't know where your posts will go.
where is the fix hq???
http://www.bjgreeninsulation.com/
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I know - I keep searching back for responses. Thanks for the link. I put it is my favorites. Here's the Pumice Concrete link again
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Annilow
Mon, 04/07/08
Where did your Mother grow up in Indiana?
My hubby and I are from Anderson but we a lot relatives and friends all over the Hoosier state.
a lot s/b a lot of
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