Hillary is done--put a fork in her.

It's impossible for her to win unless she cheats or insists on unfairness.  If Michigan counts at all she should be penalized for getting herself on the ballot, when she agreed not to to like all the other candidates.  A true Primary in Michigan would actually go to Obama according to polls, anyway.

For the good of the Party and of teh country, Hillary should step aside--it is pure ego that is keeping her in this race, and her viciousness is what is threatening the Party. 

BREAKING NEWS...........MARK PENN IS GONE!!!  see latimes.com.

Ahem. Howard Dean is first.
The road to the nomination is going to be long and bumpy. We need to keep our focus on all the races down ticket, too. We can do this. We can take our country back.
Jane

Condi as a 'Cainite VP

ensconced in the 'Cain campaign is nothing but continuation of failed “extreme” Bush-McCain policies. "

It won't be 'Cain's administration

with the Trojan horse (Condoleezza) firmly enshrined.

 

The troop surge has not succeeded – and that we need a better course.

(tip of the hat to DemCorp for the highlighted) 

oops, I highlighted more that what eventually posted, so if you can find what the blog failed to put forward, then good on you.

A true Primary in Michigan would actually go to Obama according to polls, anyway

Alan is right according to the past polls I have seen also. There haven't been recent polls there that I know of since the election there is over.

There have been no recent polls here in Fla either, but Obama could win or tie here as well. I was looking over the contributors in Florida in my are. There ave been at least twice as many Obama contributors here as there are Clinton supporters since the beginning of the year. Remember that Obama never got to campaign anywhere in Florida  AT ALL prior to our primary and was still virtually unknown though he is well-known here now.

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 David Reiter,

There is NO CHANCE that Hillary Clinton can win enough pledge delegates in the contests left, unless you consider a Hail Mary might  somehow change the totals for her.

Obama will win the most delegates in North Carolina, SD, Oregon, and Montana and a good amount, if not most, in Indiana. WV, KY and PR have very few delegates no matter who gets them.

As Howard said this morning, it is the number of delegates that will win the nomination and he added it has nothing to do with the popular vote, number of states or the size of the states.

GObama

7:39 PM EDT 

Clinton now ahead of Obama by just 25 super delegates:

http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

2008 Democratic Convention Watch

Superdelgate Endorsement List

...

4-5-08 - Removed DNC Helen Langan (UT) from Clinton and put her on the uncommitted list.
Added Missouri add-on Susan Montee (MO)# , Delaware add-on Rob Carver (DE)# , Yvette Alexander(DC)# for Obama.

Added Harry Thomas Jr.(DC)# for Clinton.
 

4-6-08 Replaced Mary Lou Winters (Clinton) with Elsie Burkhalter as DNC member from LA. Burkhalter is being placed on the uncommitted list as of now.

Added North Dakota add-on Dan Hannaher (ND)# for Obama.

Stay tuned... we'll update this list as we find out more.

...

7:39 PM EDT

The problem with the Hillary campaign isn't Mark Penn or any of the high-profile staff that have been let go --

-- mirror, mirror on the wall ...

Mark Penn is really not gone, pinsocal*. He sort of stepped aside a bit - he's still their pollster. I'm not buying it. I think it's a smokescreen because of the Colombia mess he's in.

7:42 PM EDT

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/07/wuspols107.xml

By Toby Harnden in Washington

Hillary Clinton faced fresh embarrassment yesterday after a story she told about the state of America's health care system was disclosed as inaccurate.

The former First Lady, who last month admitted she was guilty of a "misspeak" when she was forced to backtrack after embellishing an account of landing under sniper fire in Bosnia, has crossed the country telling voters a shocking tale of a woman and her baby who died after being refused medical treatment. Mrs Clinton said that a hospital in Ohio turned the woman away twice while she was experiencing complications in pregnancy.

On a visit to Wyoming, she said: "It hurts me that in our country, as rich and good a country as we are, this young woman and her baby died because she couldn't come up with $100 to see the doctor." But the woman has been identified as Trina Bachtel, a patient at O'Bleness Memorial Hospital in Athens, who died last August two weeks after her baby was stillborn. She was treated and insured.

Rick Castrop, the chief executive officer of the O'Bleness Health System, said: "We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story."

...

If VP Con-Rice would develop a winning alliance for 'Cain, then that administration would protect the crimes committed by BushCo.

The Republicans have so much to lose...Bushiters have so much to lose. 

Joan In Florida
Sun, 04/06/08

David Reiter, There is NO CHANCE that Hillary Clinton can win enough pledge delegates

I think David knows that, and that is why he put the math up there, so that the facts speak for themselves without coloring it with opinion...at least I notice that is what he usually does.

That said, I think his points is that the Party needs to unite without feeding the media and GOP desires to sow division within the Party. 

mary vb is correct - Penn is still advising

"After the events of the last few days, Mark Penn has asked to give up his role as chief strategist of the Clinton Campaign," campaign manager Maggie Williams said in a statement released Sunday. "Mark, and Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, Inc. will continue to provide polling and advice to the campaign."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23985294

BFA died back in '04, John. 99.9+% split.

A few here are clinging to false hopes, stonewalling, & nostalgia.

Echo chamber & delusional thinking effect on top. 

FEC reports are readily available.

Always have been. 

Grab an ActBlue account; & D.I.Y. 

rd,

Thanks for posting updates of superdelegate info.

Penn benefits bigtime ($$$)--and shame on the fools who donate.

 Same as here. 

Hillary can't *afford* to remain in the race much longer. 

Mark Penn: Smoke and Mirrors

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

It is not over til it's over (July First according to Howard)

the precincts need organizing in the rest of the states so get at it and win them already

Hillary's odds are 20-1 at best but they aren't zero (yet)

make the calls and knock on the doors, what are we getting lazy?

4,018

Heartbreaking

mainefem

I wish you knew more of what you were talking about with the cost of mass mailings for fund raising (most of DFA's) rather than the constant bad mouthing. They aren't cheap, but if they didn't work, no one would use them.

every campaign uses them  ...  the Iowa Democratic Party has the same kind of expenses, because we return a buck and a half for every dollar we spend (which kind of sucks but we need the money)

I bet I'm not the only one who has gotten a letter from Howard, Jim, or the Obama campaign.

and quite a few refuse to use the internet, why leave them out

my farm returns about 15% so the fundraising by mail looks more like a sure thing to me and I'll bet it is for DFA

one out of twenty answers the letter with a few bucks I'll bet

you and I might put our money in a good blog and a bat, but somehow they haven't figured that one out here 

8:24 PM EDT

rae hart -

You're welcome.

and here's some news of interest to Oregon bloggers:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7996136/Sources:-Oregon-St.-hires-Obama's-brother-in-law?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=99

Sources: Oregon St. hires Obama's brother-in-law

by Jeff Goodman

Updated: April 6, 2008, 6:57 PM EST

Oregon State has gone across the country and hired Brown coach Craig Robinson as its next coach.

According to sources, the Beavers chose Robinson over IUPUI coach Ron Hunter — just days after the school was spurned by San Diego's Bill Grier.

Robinson, who is the brother-in-law of presidential candidate Barack Obama, led Brown to an 19-10 mark and an 11-3 Ivy League record this past season, his second with the school.

...

Phil is a reasonable voice, and makes good point, so I am confident that his points resonate.

And, mainefem is feisty and on a similar vector.

I am off to bed...trusting. 

Phil is a cranky voice, paine,because he is trying to get platform work done by a printing deadline and can't put the whole team together online on a Sunday night.

the puddle baby blog poetry inspired fishing trip is coming together however so all is not lost

We support: 

AE8 Phasing out consumption of fossil fuels as alternative energy production become increasingly feasible,increased CAFE standards, promotion of LEED carbon neutral buildings,registration fees that reward fuel efficiency,maximum efficiency in government owned vehicles,elimination of subsidies for fossil fuels, and protecting wilderness areas from drilling, and protecting endangered species and their habitiat.

Remove AE 18,19,20,21,22,29 .

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what a word limited platform plank looks like

Toxie Myers, who has written three books related to his concerns about the city's culpability in polluting the environment, says fumes from the burning of discarded median posts and highway guardrails contained dioxin and other harmful substances...

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8826087?nclick_check=1

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 6, 2008

Contact: Press Office, 703-875-1271
press[at]hillaryclinton[dot]com

Statement from Maggie Williams

After the events of the last few days, Mark Penn has asked to give up his role as Chief Strategist of the Clinton Campaign; Mark, and Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, Inc. will continue to provide polling and advice to the campaign.

Geoff Garin and Howard Wolfson will coordinate the campaign's strategic message team going forward.

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I could RETIRE on what HQ wasted during Q1.

Comfortably...unbelievable.

Keep swilling the Kool-Aid. 

well, I hope I don't offend any Catholics when I say that they believe in miracles.
And my conspiracy theory is that this is the reason Catholics support Clinton.

I'm not claiming that Hillary believes in miracles
but it sure seems like she wishes for one~

Food additives 'could be as damaging as lead in petrol'

By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Saturday, 5 April 2008

Artificial food colours are set to be removed from hundreds of products after a team of university researchers warned they were doing as much damage to children's brains as lead in petrol.

Academics at Southampton University, who carried out an official study into seven additives for the Food Standards Agency (FSA), said children's intelligence was being significantly damaged by E-numbers.... 

Needleman [a researcher] found the difference in IQ between high and low lead groups was 5.5 IQ points ... This is very close to the sizes obtained in our study of food additives."..

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/food-additives-could-be-as-damaging-as-lead-in-petrol-804890.html

Phil ~~ the platform is lookin' gooooooooooooood.  Keep it up you guys.

And YAY!! on the baby poetry fishin' trip!   

Goodness ~~ how does one get ahead of one's ownself, lol!?

31.  ROFLMAO!!

I'm not claiming that Hillary believes in miracles
but it sure seems like she wishes for one~

The assumption of Blessed Hillary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Heart_of_Mary

BFA died back in '04

mainefem, this is so funny, you continue to communicate with the dead!~

But seriously, if the foundation is not sound than it's only a matter of time when the building collapses.

34. Fred - LOL!!!!!!! I miss be a *bad* Catholic since I support Barack...I think sunlight is right though...

s/b must be. I need to go have dinner with my family.

Nite.

LAW/SENTENCING REFORM

WE SUPPORT:

1. Ending costly “War on Drugs”, refocusing efforts to “Harm Reduction” and realistic prevention efforts.

1. Alternatives to incarceration for drug offenders; alternative sentencing involving treatment and rehabilitation for youthful and first offenders; continuing education assistance during rehab.

1. Legalizing marijuana.

2. Minority report. We support the decrimminalization of possession of small quantities of marijuana.

1. “Private Property Rights” guaranteed by Constitution. Criminal conviction as pre-requisite for property forfeiture; forfeiture a rare exception; individual right to jury trial in forfeiture cases.

1. Federal ban on capital punishment.

GOVERNMENT REFORM

WE SUPPORT:

1. Voting reforms that assure or provide:

   1. Every citizen of legal age the right to vote;

   2. Same day voter registration;

   3. Mandatory paper records;

   4. Anonymity of voter choices.

1. The VOICE Act and publicly financed elections at all government levels.

well, I hope I don't offend any Catholics when I say that they believe in miracles.
And my conspiracy theory is that this is the reason Catholics support Clinton

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It would be interesting if Barack doesn't do well with Catholics.  While he supports Roe v. Wade, he has been conservative at promote the so-called "right to choose"  If fact, the word "choice" and other variations of the euphemism are not found on his web site.  This makes sense as he tries to be least offensive as possible on the so-called social issues.

It is a mystery but probably having more to do with the culture catholics come from. Many Catholic immigrants share the white supremacy characteristics of Southern Whites, although  the remnants of the open wounds of the civil war made it more severe down there, I imagine.

Penn out as Clinton senior strategist By BETH FOUHY

04/06/08 17:53:20

Mark Penn, the pollster and senior strategist for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential bid, left the campaign Sunday after it was disclosed he met with representatives of the Colombian government to help promote a free trade agreement Clinton opposes. ... http://www.fresnobee.com/649/story/50727...

Fred - LOL!!!!!!! I miss be a *bad* Catholic since I support Barack...I think sunlight is right though...

puddle

Howard is first, the bat comes first.

had to throw in the plank from the Gravel supporter

Dick Gephardt needs to go too. He's gone totally K-Street since he left congress.

Holy smokes! New PA ARG poll.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

I know, polls are meaningless but Barack has pulled even in PA.

Ministry's gay event sparks Fresno dispute

Exodus International says homosexual desires are sinful; protesters disagree.

By Bethany Clough / The Fresno Bee
04/05/08

A national Christian ministry that encourages homosexuals to change brought its campaign to a Fresno church for three days -- sparking a protest Saturday by those who say its message is potentially harmful.

Inside the Bridge Evangelical Free Church, speakers from Exodus International prayed for freedom from homosexual desires and actions they said were sinful.

Outside, on a sidewalk along Ashlan Avenue, protesters said being gay isn't a sin and homosexuals do not need to be reformed.

The opposing viewpoints echoed a debate that has played out across the country. The Orlando-based Exodus and a handful of other groups have sought to present what they describe as a Christian alternative to a gay lifestyle. But their efforts have inspired a backlash from people who say such an approach can lead to self-loathing. ...full article: http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/50676...

39.

FRED from Ashland OR
Sun, 04/06/08

Obama does great with the pro-choice Catholics I know. And I know a lot of them, men and women.

LAW/SENTENCING REFORM

WE SUPPORT:

....1.  Legalizing marijuana.

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We have to be careful with this.  Possession of marijuana should be completely legal with some restrictions, but smoking it should not be completely legal.  The location and close proximity downwind to many location needs to very restrictive, like tobacco, even more so, because it is a more mind-altering than tobacco and has more potential for anaphalytic reaction to those who breathe it as a second hand smoke.

From a NYT Article Appearing Tomorrow:

Margaret Campbell, a Montana state legislator, plans to declare her support for Senator Obama, of Illinois. She becomes the 69th superdelegate he has picked up since the Feb. 5 coast-to-coast string of primary elections and caucus votes.
hat tip d/kos

39.

FRED from Ashland OR
Sun, 04/06/08

Obama does great with the pro-choice Catholics I know. And I know a lot of them, men and women

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Probably because he seems to be sensitive to the disposition of those who are "personally opposed" to abortion but still want it to be legal and safe, for those who do have abortions.  the only politically viable position to take IMO - unfortunately, one our politics of polarity [on both sides] seldom sees.

50.

FRED from Ashland OR
Sun, 04/06/08


I think he's supports real reproductive education, planned parenthood and birth control.

Do we know there is a new thread?

Loretta Lynn sings the Pill

A Music Video with a little message for the ladies of Port Charles. There's something else you could buy at that pharmacy other than a pregnancy test ladies... and that's "The Pill." ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQof4kFbl...

Fred these "we support" planks follow as well as the minority report and since their is a minority report the whole convention will vote. 

1. statewide public smoking ban.

1. smoking prevention and cessation programs, and strict tobacco regulations.

1. wellness programs to reduce obesity and encourage healthy lifestyles.

2. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think he's supports real reproductive education, planned parenthood and birth control.

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My long thought-out position is that it is a mistake promote birth control devices and drugs, per se, in the classroom, but I am all for sex education.

Children need to be educated as to the fertility cycle, both monthly and long term over a life-time.  The life cycle of the sperm and egg, the hormones released, and tools for detecting those homone surges, like urine sticks, and vaginal fluid texture is important.   Irregularities in the cycle and post-fertility "safe" time of cycle may be pointed out.  It should also be maintained that if fertility avoidance as a method of birth control is not fool-proof, but if the point of ovulation can be detected adequately, the later afterwards, the safer it is.

This education can be taught from the perspective of attaining pregnancy or avoiding it, or just a question of knowing one's body.  Males should be taught about cycles, fluid build up, prostate and testicular concerns and their function.  Stimulation and release.

Classes should be segregated for reason of distraction and embarrassment, but the knowledge should be the same, boys should also learn about girls, as girls should also  learn about boys.  

I do not think it is the place of public education  to promote invasive bodily-placed devices and drugs for the purpose of birth control.  Devices can fail.  People can use them improperly. There can be no guarantees they are 100% effective, but promoting devices gives  the implication that they always are.  However I do think literature should be made available about device and birth control drugs, if they want to educate themselves, or want to go somewhere like Planned Parenthood for more information.

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24778#comment-1186029

new tread

I was discussing one day with the manager of our locally owed small rural grocery store why they don't offer any over the counter birth control or pregnancy tests. She said it's because they always get stolen. But our small locally owed liquor store always has an ample supply of condoms on sale. The truth is always very telling. They're way too many "goodie two shoes" types in rural America these days that need to learn how to mind their own business.