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Written by: DFA Staff on Apr 4, 2008 1:45 PM EDT

Martin Luther King, Jr.
January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968

Use this thread to talk about Rev. King: what he meant to you; where you were when you found out he was assassinated; how his work changed your life.

Danny
Communications Director

Remaining Awake Through a Great Revolution

Delivered at the National Cathedral, Washington, D.C., on 31 March 1968. Congressional Record, 9 April 1968.

I need not pause to say how very delighted I am to be here this morning, to have the opportunity of standing in this very great and significant pulpit. And I do want to express my deep personal appreciation to Dean Sayre and all of the cathedral clergy for extending the invitation.

It is always a rich and rewarding experience to take a brief break from our day-to-day demands and the struggle for freedom and human dignity and discuss the issues involved in that struggle with concerned friends of goodwill all over our nation. And certainly it is always a deep and meaningful experience to be in a worship service. And so for many reasons, I’m happy to be here today.

I would like to use as a subject from which to preach this morning: "Remaining Awake Through a Great Revolution." The text for the morning is found in the book of Revelation. There are two passages there that I would like to quote, in the sixteenth chapter of that book: "Behold I make all things new; former things are passed away."

I am sure that most of you have read that arresting little story from the pen of Washington Irving entitled "Rip Van Winkle." The one thing that we usually remember about the story is that Rip Van Winkle slept twenty years. But there is another point in that little story that is almost completely overlooked. It was the sign in the end, from which Rip went up in the mountain for his long sleep.

When Rip Van Winkle went up into the mountain, the sign had a picture of King George the Third of England. When he came down twenty years later the sign had a picture of George Washington, the first president of the United States. When Rip Van Winkle looked up at the picture of George Washington—and looking at the picture he was amazed—he was completely lost. He knew not who he was.

And this reveals to us that the most striking thing about the story of Rip Van Winkle is not merely that Rip slept twenty years, but that he slept through a revolution. While he was peacefully snoring up in the mountain a revolution was taking place that at points would change the course of history—and Rip knew nothing about it. He was asleep. Yes, he slept through a revolution. And one of the great liabilities of life is that all too many people find themselves living amid a great period of social change, and yet they fail to develop the new attitudes, the new mental responses, that the new situation demands. They end up sleeping through a revolution.

There can be no gainsaying of the fact that a great revolution is taking place in the world today. In a sense it is a triple revolution: that is, a technological revolution, with the impact of automation and cybernation; then there is a revolution in weaponry, with the emergence of atomic and nuclear weapons of warfare; then there is a human rights revolution, with the freedom explosion that is taking place all over the world. Yes, we do live in a period where changes are taking place. And there is still the voice crying through the vista of time saying, "Behold, I make all things new; former things are passed away."

Now whenever anything new comes into history it brings with it new challenges and new opportunities. And I would like to deal with the challenges that we face today as a result of this triple revolution that is taking place in the world today.

First, we are challenged to develop a world perspective. No individual can live alone, no nation can live alone, and anyone who feels that he can live alone is sleeping through a revolution. The world in which we live is geographically one. The challenge that we face today is to make it one in terms of brotherhood.

Now it is true that the geographical oneness of this age has come into being to a large extent through modern man’s scientific ingenuity. Modern man through his scientific genius has been able to dwarf distance and place time in chains. And our jet planes have compressed into minutes distances that once took weeks and even months. All of this tells us that our world is a neighborhood.

Through our scientific and technological genius, we have made of this world a neighborhood and yet we have not had the ethical commitment to make of it a brotherhood. But somehow, and in some way, we have got to do this. We must all learn to live together as brothers or we will all perish together as fools. We are tied together in the single garment of destiny, caught in an inescapable network of mutuality. And whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly. For some strange reason I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. And you can never be what you ought to be until I am what I ought to be. This is the way God’s universe is made; this is the way it is structured.

John Donne caught it years ago and placed it in graphic terms: "No man is an island entire of itself. Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main." And he goes on toward the end to say, "Any man’s death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind; therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." We must see this, believe this, and live by it if we are to remain awake through a great revolution.

Secondly, we are challenged to eradicate the last vestiges of racial injustice from our nation. I must say this morning that racial injustice is still the black man’s burden and the white man’s shame.

It is an unhappy truth that racism is a way of life for the vast majority of white Americans, spoken and unspoken, acknowledged and denied, subtle and sometimes not so subtle—the disease of racism permeates and poisons a whole body politic. And I can see nothing more urgent than for America to work passionately and unrelentingly—to get rid of the disease of racism.

Something positive must be done. Everyone must share in the guilt as individuals and as institutions. The government must certainly share the guilt; individuals must share the guilt; even the church must share the guilt.

We must face the sad fact that at eleven o’clock on Sunday morning when we stand to sing "In Christ there is no East or West," we stand in the most segregated hour of America.

The hour has come for everybody, for all institutions of the public sector and the private sector to work to get rid of racism. And now if we are to do it we must honestly admit certain things and get rid of certain myths that have constantly been disseminated all over our nation.

One is the myth of time. It is the notion that only time can solve the problem of racial injustice. And there are those who often sincerely say to the Negro and his allies in the white community, "Why don’t you slow up? Stop pushing things so fast. Only time can solve the problem. And if you will just be nice and patient and continue to pray, in a hundred or two hundred years the problem will work itself out."

There is an answer to that myth. It is that time is neutral. It can be used wither constructively or destructively. And I am sorry to say this morning that I am absolutely convinced that the forces of ill will in our nation, the extreme rightists of our nation—the people on the wrong side—have used time much more effectively than the forces of goodwill. And it may well be that we will have to repent in this generation. Not merely for the vitriolic words and the violent actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence and indifference of the good people who sit around and say, "Wait on time."

Somewhere we must come to see that human progress never rolls in on the wheels of inevitability. It comes through the tireless efforts and the persistent work of dedicated individuals who are willing to be co-workers with God. And without this hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the primitive forces of social stagnation. So we must help time and realize that the time is always ripe to do right.

Now there is another myth that still gets around: it is a kind of over reliance on the bootstrap philosophy. There are those who still feel that if the Negro is to rise out of poverty, if the Negro is to rise out of the slum conditions, if he is to rise out of discrimination and segregation, he must do it all by himself. And so they say the Negro must lift himself by his own bootstraps.

They never stop to realize that no other ethnic group has been a slave on American soil. The people who say this never stop to realize that the nation made the black man’s color a stigma. But beyond this they never stop to realize the debt that they owe a people who were kept in slavery two hundred and forty-four years.

In 1863 the Negro was told that he was free as a result of the Emancipation Proclamation being signed by Abraham Lincoln. But he was not given any land to make that freedom meaningful. It was something like keeping a person in prison for a number of years and suddenly discovering that that person is not guilty of the crime for which he was convicted. And you just go up to him and say, "Now you are free," but you don’t give him any bus fare to get to town. You don’t give him any money to get some clothes to put on his back or to get on his feet again in life.

Every court of jurisprudence would rise up against this, and yet this is the very thing that our nation did to the black man. It simply said, "You’re free," and it left him there penniless, illiterate, not knowing what to do. And the irony of it all is that at the same time the nation failed to do anything for the black man, though an act of Congress was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest. Which meant that it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor.

But not only did it give the land, it built land-grant colleges to teach them how to farm. Not only that, it provided county agents to further their expertise in farming; not only that, as the years unfolded it provided low interest rates so that they could mechanize their farms. And to this day thousands of these very persons are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies every years not to farm. And these are so often the very people who tell Negroes that they must lift themselves by their own bootstraps. It’s all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps.

We must come to see that the roots of racism are very deep in our country, and there must be something positive and massive in order to get rid of all the effects of racism and the tragedies of racial injustice.

There is another thing closely related to racism that I would like to mention as another challenge. We are challenged to rid our nation and the world of poverty. Like a monstrous octopus, poverty spreads its nagging, prehensile tentacles into hamlets and villages all over our world. Two-thirds of the people of the world go to bed hungry tonight. They are ill-housed; they are ill-nourished; they are shabbily clad. I’ve seen it in Latin America; I’ve seen it in Africa; I’ve seen this poverty in Asia.

I remember some years ago Mrs. King and I journeyed to that great country known as India. And I never will forget the experience. It was a marvelous experience to meet and talk with the great leaders of India, to meet and talk with and to speak to thousands and thousands of people all over that vast country. These experiences will remain dear to me as long as the cords of memory shall lengthen.

But I say to you this morning, my friends, there were those depressing moments. How can one avoid being depressed when he sees with his own eyes evidences of millions of people going to bed hungry at night? How can one avoid being depressed when he sees with his own eyes God’s children sleeping on the sidewalks at night? In Bombay more than a million people sleep on the sidewalks every night. In Calcutta more than six hundred thousand sleep on the sidewalks every night. They have no beds to sleep in; they have no houses to go in. How can one avoid being depressed when he discovers that out of India’s population of more than five hundred million people, some four hundred and eighty million make an annual income of less than ninety dollars a year. And most of them have never seen a doctor or a dentist.

As I noticed these things, something within me cried out, "Can we in America stand idly by and not be concerned?" And an answer came: "Oh no!" Because the destiny of the United States is tied up with the destiny of India and every other nation. And I started thinking of the fact that we spend in America millions of dollars a day to store surplus food, and I said to myself, "I know where we can store that food free of charge—in the wrinkled stomachs of millions of God’s children all over the world who go to bed hungry at night." And maybe we spend far too much of our national budget establishing military bases around the world rather than bases of genuine concern and understanding.

Not only do we see poverty abroad, I would remind you that in our own nation there are about forty million people who are poverty-stricken. I have seen them here and there. I have seen them in the ghettos of the North; I have seen them in the rural areas of the South; I have seen them in Appalachia. I have just been in the process of touring many areas of our country and I must confess that in some situations I have literally found myself crying.

I was in Marks, Mississippi, the other day, which is in Whitman County, the poorest county in the United States. I tell you, I saw hundreds of little black boys and black girls walking the streets with no shoes to wear. I saw their mothers and fathers trying to carry on a little Head Start program, but they had no money. The federal government hadn’t funded them, but they were trying to carry on. They raised a little money here and there; trying to get a little food to feed the children; trying to teach them a little something.

And I saw mothers and fathers who said to me not only were they unemployed, they didn’t get any kind of income—no old-age pension, no welfare check, no anything. I said, "How do you live?" And they say, "Well, we go around, go around to the neighbors and ask them for a little something. When the berry season comes, we pick berries. When the rabbit season comes, we hunt and catch a few rabbits. And that’s about it."

And I was in Newark and Harlem just this week. And I walked into the homes of welfare mothers. I saw them in conditions—no, not with wall-to-wall carpet, but wall-to-wall rats and roaches. I stood in an apartment and this welfare mother said to me, "The landlord will not repair this place. I’ve been here two years and he hasn’t made a single repair." She pointed out the walls with all the ceiling falling through. She showed me the holes where the rats came in. She said night after night we have to stay awake to keep the rats and roaches from getting to the children. I said, "How much do you pay for this apartment?" She said, "a hundred and twenty-five dollars." I looked, and I thought, and said to myself, "It isn’t worth sixty dollars." Poor people are forced to pay more for less. Living in conditions day in and day out where the whole area is constantly drained without being replenished. It becomes a kind of domestic colony. And the tragedy is, so often these forty million people are invisible because America is so affluent, so rich. Because our expressways carry us from the ghetto, we don’t see the poor.

Jesus told a parable one day, and he reminded us that a man went to hell because he didn’t see the poor. His name was Dives. He was a rich man. And there was a man by the name of Lazarus who was a poor man, but not only was he poor, he was sick. Sores were all over his body, and he was so weak that he could hardly move. But he managed to get to the gate of Dives every day, wanting just to have the crumbs that would fall from his table. And Dives did nothing about it. And the parable ends saying, "Dives went to hell, and there were a fixed gulf now between Lazarus and Dives."

There is nothing in that parable that said Dives went to hell because he was rich. Jesus never made a universal indictment against all wealth. It is true that one day a rich young ruler came to him, and he advised him to sell all, but in that instance Jesus was prescribing individual surgery and not setting forth a universal diagnosis. And if you will look at that parable with all of its symbolism, you will remember that a conversation took place between heaven and hell, and on the other end of that long-distance call between heaven and hell was Abraham in heaven talking to Dives in hell.

Now Abraham was a very rich man. If you go back to the Old Testament, you see that he was the richest man of his day, so it was not a rich man in hell talking with a poor man in heaven; it was a little millionaire in hell talking with a multimillionaire in heaven. Dives didn’t go to hell because he was rich; Dives didn’t realize that his wealth was his opportunity. It was his opportunity to bridge the gulf that separated him from his brother Lazarus. Dives went to hell because he was passed by Lazarus every day and he never really saw him. He went to hell because he allowed his brother to become invisible. Dives went to hell because he maximized the minimum and minimized the maximum. Indeed, Dives went to hell because he sought to be a conscientious objector in the war against poverty.

And this can happen to America, the richest nation in the world—and nothing’s wrong with that—this is America’s opportunity to help bridge the gulf between the haves and the have-nots. The question is whether America will do it. There is nothing new about poverty. What is new is that we now have the techniques and the resources to get rid of poverty. The real question is whether we have the will.

In a few weeks some of us are coming to Washington to see if the will is still alive or if it is alive in this nation. We are coming to Washington in a Poor People’s Campaign. Yes, we are going to bring the tired, the poor, the huddled masses. We are going to bring those who have known long years of hurt and neglect. We are going to bring those who have come to feel that life is a long and desolate corridor with no exit signs. We are going to bring children and adults and old people, people who have never seen a doctor or a dentist in their lives.

We are not coming to engage in any histrionic gesture. We are not coming to tear up Washington. We are coming to demand that the government address itself to the problem of poverty. We read one day, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." But if a man doesn’t have a job or an income, he has neither life nor liberty nor the possibility for the pursuit of happiness. He merely exists.

We are coming to ask America to be true to the huge promissory note that it signed years ago. And we are coming to engage in dramatic nonviolent action, to call attention to the gulf between promise and fulfillment; to make the invisible visible.

Why do we do it this way? We do it this way because it is our experience that the nation doesn’t move around questions of genuine equality for the poor and for black people until it is confronted massively, dramatically in terms of direct action.

Great documents are here to tell us something should be done. We met here some years ago in the White House conference on civil rights. And we came out with the same recommendations that we will be demanding in our campaign here, but nothing has been done. The President’s commission on technology, automation and economic progress recommended these things some time ago. Nothing has been done. Even the urban coalition of mayors of most of the cities of our country and the leading businessmen have said these things should be done. Nothing has been done. The Kerner Commission came out with its report just a few days ago and then made specific recommendations. Nothing has been done.

And I submit that nothing will be done until people of goodwill put their bodies and their souls in motion. And it will be the kind of soul force brought into being as a result of this confrontation that I believe will make the difference.

Yes, it will be a Poor People’s Campaign. This is the question facing America. Ultimately a great nation is a compassionate nation. America has not met its obligations and its responsibilities to the poor.

One day we will have to stand before the God of history and we will talk in terms of things we’ve done. Yes, we will be able to say we built gargantuan bridges to span the seas, we built gigantic buildings to kiss the skies. Yes, we made our submarines to penetrate oceanic depths. We brought into being many other things with our scientific and technological power.

It seems that I can hear the God of history saying, "That was not enough! But I was hungry, and ye fed me not. I was naked, and ye clothed me not. I was devoid of a decent sanitary house to live in, and ye provided no shelter for me. And consequently, you cannot enter the kingdom of greatness. If ye do it unto the least of these, my brethren, ye do it unto me." That’s the question facing America today.

I want to say one other challenge that we face is simply that we must find an alternative to war and bloodshed. Anyone who feels, and there are still a lot of people who feel that way, that war can solve the social problems facing mankind is sleeping through a great revolution. President Kennedy said on one occasion, "Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind." The world must hear this. I pray God that America will hear this before it is too late, because today we’re fighting a war.

I am convinced that it is one of the most unjust wars that has ever been fought in the history of the world. Our involvement in the war in Vietnam has torn up the Geneva Accord. It has strengthened the military-industrial complex; it has strengthened the forces of reaction in our nation. It has put us against the self-determination of a vast majority of the Vietnamese people, and put us in the position of protecting a corrupt regime that is stacked against the poor.

It has played havoc with our domestic destinies. This day we are spending five hundred thousand dollars to kill every Vietcong soldier. Every time we kill one we spend about five hundred thousand dollars while we spend only fifty-three dollars a year for every person characterized as poverty-stricken in the so-called poverty program, which is not even a good skirmish against poverty.

Not only that, it has put us in a position of appearing to the world as an arrogant nation. And here we are ten thousand miles away from home fighting for the so-called freedom of the Vietnamese people when we have not even put our own house in order. And we force young black men and young white men to fight and kill in brutal solidarity. Yet when they come back home that can’t hardly live on the same block together.

The judgment of God is upon us today. And we could go right down the line and see that something must be done—and something must be done quickly. We have alienated ourselves from other nations so we end up morally and politically isolated in the world. There is not a single major ally of the United States of America that would dare send a troop to Vietnam, and so the only friends that we have now are a few client-nations like Taiwan, Thailand, South Korea, and a few others.

This is where we are. "Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind," and the best way to start is to put an end to war in Vietnam, because if it continues, we will inevitably come to the point of confronting China which could lead the whole world to nuclear annihilation.

It is no longer a choice, my friends, between violence and nonviolence. It is either nonviolence or nonexistence. And the alternative to disarmament, the alternative to a greater suspension of nuclear tests, the alternative to strengthening the United Nations and thereby disarming the whole world, may well be a civilization plunged into the abyss of annihilation, and our earthly habitat would be transformed into an inferno that even the mind of Dante could not imagine.

This is why I felt the need of raising my voice against that war and working wherever I can to arouse the conscience of our nation on it. I remember so well when I first took a stand against the war in Vietnam. The critics took me on and they had their say in the most negative and sometimes most vicious way.

One day a newsman came to me and said, "Dr. King, don’t you think you’re going to have to stop, now, opposing the war and move more in line with the administration’s policy? As I understand it, it has hurt the budget of your organization, and people who once respected you have lost respect for you. Don’t you feel that you’ve really got to change your position?" I looked at him and I had to say, "Sir, I’m sorry you don’t know me. I’m not a consensus leader. I do not determine what is right and wrong by looking at the budget of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. I’ve not taken a sort of Gallup Poll of the majority opinion." Ultimately a genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus, but a molder of consensus.

On some positions, cowardice asks the question, is it expedient? And then expedience comes along and asks the question, is it politic? Vanity asks the question, is it popular? Conscience asks the question, is it right?

There comes a time when one must take the position that is neither safe nor politic nor popular, but he must do it because conscience tells him it is right. I believe today that there is a need for all people of goodwill to come with a massive act of conscience and say in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "We ain’t goin’ study war no more." This is the challenge facing modern man.

Let me close by saying that we have difficult days ahead in the struggle for justice and peace, but I will not yield to a politic of despair. I’m going to maintain hope as we come to Washington in this campaign. The cards are stacked against us. This time we will really confront a Goliath. God grant that we will be that David of truth set out against the Goliath of injustice, the Goliath of neglect, the Goliath of refusing to deal with the problems, and go on with the determination to make America the truly great America that it is called to be.

I say to you that our goal is freedom, and I believe we are going to get there because however much she strays away from it, the goal of America is freedom. Abused and scorned though we may be as a people, our destiny is tied up in the destiny of America.

Before the Pilgrim fathers landed at Plymouth, we were here. Before Jefferson etched across the pages of history the majestic words of the Declaration of Independence, we were here. Before the beautiful words of the "Star Spangled Banner" were written, we were here.

For more than two centuries our fore bearers labored here without wages. They made cotton king, and they built the homes of their masters in the midst of the most humiliating and oppressive conditions. And yet out of a bottomless vitality they continued to grow and develop. If the inexpressible cruelties of slavery couldn’t stop us, the opposition that we now face will surely fail.

We’re going to win our freedom because both the sacred heritage of our nation and the eternal will of the almighty God are embodied in our echoing demands. And so, however dark it is, however deep the angry feelings are, and however violent explosions are, I can still sing "We Shall Overcome."

We shall overcome because the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.

We shall overcome because Carlyle is right—"No lie can live forever."

We shall overcome because William Cullen Bryant is right—"Truth, crushed to earth, will rise again."

We shall overcome because James Russell Lowell is right—as we were singing earlier today,

Truth forever on the scaffold,

Wrong forever on the throne.

Yet that scaffold sways the future.

And behind the dim unknown stands God,

Within the shadow keeping watch above his own.

With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair the stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood.

Thank God for John, who centuries ago out on a lonely, obscure island called Patmos caught vision of a new Jerusalem descending out of heaven from God, who heard a voice saying, "Behold, I make all things new; former things are passed away."

God grant that we will be participants in this newness and this magnificent development. If we will but do it, we will bring about a new day of justice and brotherhood and peace. And that day the morning stars will sing together and the sons of God will shout for joy. God bless you.

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By Jeff Morris on Apr 4, 2008 5:53 PM EDT
  Nixon didn't start the Viet Nam War, he inherited it. The Decider started this Iraq disaster based on nothing but lies. Much worse. During the Viet Nam War the reason we couldn't get out was based on the "Domino Theory. If Viet Nam fell, the other Countries in the region would follow. The Domino Theory was barely challenged. In the end the other Countries didn't fall as promised by the Nixon administration. The Domino Theory proved to be just that. A theory. An incorrect theory. It reminds me of the unchallenged rhetoric of today that "If we pull out of Iraq the region could fall into chaos. The past four years in Iraq haven't been chaos enough? Is "We can't leave Iraq or it will fall into chaos" this Iraq Wars incorrect "Domino Theory" of today? We just don't know, but time will tell. 1968 was a terrible year for America. The unpopular Viet Nam War raging on, the assassinations of MLK and RFK.... How will history record the two Bush terms? Will it trump 1968 and be remembered as far worse? It should. If it doesn't, one has to wonder "Just who gets to write history anyway?
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By Susan Rowe on Apr 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT

Thank you Danny.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 9:11 PM EDT

Thank you Danny.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 9:22 PM EDT

Please recommend

 http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24764

Actually, I would have you consider it, but the trend has been to bring it forth as an offering, amen. 

 

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By rae hart on Apr 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT

Thank you Danny.

And thank you puddle for your Letter to Edwin on previous thread.

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By sandy m on Apr 4, 2008 9:57 PM EDT

Beautiful front thread Danny.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:01 PM EDT
The Pointer Sisters - Yes We Can Can

 

"...and do respect the women of the world..." 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
The Pointer Sisters - Yes We Can Can

 

This could be an internet sensation for Barack IMHO.  Yes we can.  !!! 

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By publius on Apr 4, 2008 10:04 PM EDT

April 4...
 
Some lyrics I wanted to share in tribute to
the twentieth century's greatest
advocate -  with what he had in common
with advocacy's standard setter for millenia.

Ronald

" And perhaps we give a little to the poor,

if the generosity should seize us.

But if any one of us should interfere,

in the business,

of WHYYYY..........there are poor,

ya get the same as the rebel Jesus."

Jackson Browne

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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By Reed in V T on Apr 4, 2008 10:12 PM EDT

Joan in Florida...from last thead...
For the last seven years America has been force fed from the CM...Those that watch the CM and could easily agree that ERA might mean "earned rights amendment" is what we're up against. IMO as always...LOL

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT

per last:

Blue Rondo Ala Turk
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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:45 PM EDT

Night, MLK...I remember the day and recall the moment Robert F Kennedy was murdered, too.  My mother cried, and I thought of you.  Dad was in ' Nam.

 

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By Karen on Apr 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT

rae hart from last thread...

Senator Hillary Clinton's voice quivered as she recounted her recollection of the day Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

Another teary eyed moment.  Please.  No one really falls for this crap do they?

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"No one really falls for this crap do they?"

Not for a New York minute!!

 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:47 PM EDT
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By mary vb on Apr 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT

Hillary's crash crunch:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump...

puddle - I too enjoyed your letter to Edwin on the last thread. We've come so far - yet not far enough.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT

letter to Edwin?

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By Phil Specht on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT

"Water for All" Workshop at Ecumenical Advocacy Days 02 Apr 2008 17:33:00 GMT Source: Church World Service-USAWebsite: http://www.churchworldservice.orgReuters and AlertNet are not responsible for the content of this article or for any external internet sites. The views expressed are the author's alone. 284081 logo
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Photo: R. Hughes/CWS March 31, 2008 Two Church World Service partners, Deborah Katina, coordinator for Yang'at in Kenya and Elias Szczytnicki, the regional coordinator of the Latin America and Caribbean chapter of World Religions for Peace, co-led the workshop "Water for All" at the 2008 Ecumenical Advocacy Days conference. The conference, held in Washington, D.C., March 7-10, drew participants from around the globe to explore true human and environmental security for all peoplehttp://www.alertnet.org/thenews/fromthefield/284081/120715786699.htm
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By Phil Specht on Apr 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
Printable version Women face bias worldwide - UN Indian women. File photo The report says that 70% of the world's poor are women

Women are discriminated against in almost every country around the world, a UN-commissioned report says.

It says that this is despite the fact that 185 UN member states pledged to outlaw laws favouring men by 2005.

It adds that 70% of the world's poor are women and they own just 1% of the world's titled land.

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By Phil Specht on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT
Printable version Asian states feel rice pinch

Graph showing rice prices

Asian countries have been struggling to cope as the cost of rice has reached record levels.

The price of the staple crop has risen by as much as 70% during the last year, according to the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO).

Shortages have begun to hit some importing countries.

Factors contributing to the price rise include:

  • Poor harvests resulting from extreme weather
  • A rise in demand in some rice-importing countries, where populations and incomes are growing
  • The expectation of further price increases - resulting in hoarding
  • Low stockpiles and a long term lack of agricultural investment
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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 11:16 PM EDT

 'Donkey butchers' caught red-handed
    March 31 2008 at 12:55PM
Cairo - Two Cairo butchers have been arrested for allegedly passing off donkey, cat and dog carcasses as beef, a security official said on Monday.

Mohammed Mahmud Khalifa, 35, was caught red-handed as he butchered a donkey he had found by the roadside in a street in the densely packed Cairo district of Bulaq-Dakrur, the official said.

He confessed to collecting carcasses from around Cairo and selling their meat to Wasfi Sawiris, 53, for five Egyptian pounds (less than a dollar) a kilo, a tenth of the normal price for beef.

Sawiris then allegedly ground the meat up with spices to disguise the taste before selling it to local restaurants.
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By Phil Specht on Apr 4, 2008 11:16 PM EDT

puddle can you bring that portrait of Rev. King over from your blog for this thread?

the fear some in power then had of King is the same fear China has now from the Dalai Lama, and you can see why looking at his face

once you know the truth through love you can change history  

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 4, 2008 11:17 PM EDT

Oops, I was going to bed:  night.

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By mary vb on Apr 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT
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By mary vb on Apr 4, 2008 11:28 PM EDT

Paine - repost from last thread.

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January 15, 2005 letter to Edwin ~~



I posted this on the blog, but I actually wrote it for you more than anyone else. . . . So, today is Martin's birthday. And I'm glad this country acknowledges it. But his birthday always brings to mind so clearly to me the first week that he wasn't. It was beautiful weather in D.C. that week. There was a Forsythia in bloom at my back door, and I spent the whole week digging it out, to replace it with a Mock Orange. I had a radio on the porch listening to the news of the riots as I sweated, disentangling the Forsythia's roots from around the construction junk the builders had buried next to the house. My neighbor across the street with her doors locked was calling frequently, convinced that the rioters were headed our way. (Right, all the women in the neighborhood had to drive to the bus stop to pick up their maids ~~ was she expecting them to take taxis out from DeeCee just to get our little chicken sh!t ghetto?) As I sweated, dug and pulled, and the sky was blue and beautiful, and 7th street burned and burned, I recall feeling so hopeful. At last they were angry, and standing up! When I first came East, I worked in the personnel records dept of Hot Shoppes/Marriott. We had thousands of employees in D.C. mostly cooks, busboys, dishwashers. They bought furniture on credit from the stores on 7th Street. Whole house suites. The terms were very easy, the furniture crappy. But the monthly payments were possible even on a busboy's salary. The interest, outrageous, but at least you had a couch to sit on, a table to eat on, and a bed to sleep on -- for a year or two, until it fell apart. Then generally, they stopped paying. And went down the street to buy another set from another store. The owners didn't much care, D.C. had a really good garnishee law. The buyers were sometimes paying for two or three deceased suites as well as the currently useable one. Every time I'd filed another garnisheeing notice, I'd felt outraged. They were paying double or triple what the junk was worth in the first place. And yet I could see no way out for them, then. No one else would give them credit. They were doing what they could. But if I were angry, just standing helplessly by, how much more angry must they be? And now, 7th Street was being burned! One could see the smoke from the burning city even from Maryland. I pulled several bushels of construction junk from that hole, and dragged it to the curb. I planted the Mock Orange with much new dirt, and manure, and hope. And it flourished. And I always think of that week as the beginning, though I know it began earlier, with a man who would not have approved of the riots, but who had given the heart and the hope into the making of them and heart and hope did not end when he did. . . . Thank you Martin. .


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By * rdorgan on Apr 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT

10:53 PM EDT

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_campaignplus/20080404/ap_ca/on_the2008_trail_4

Weicker endorses Obama

By STEPHANIE REITZ, Associated Press Writer Fri

Apr 4, 5:56 PM ET

HARTFORD, Conn. - Former Republican senator and Connecticut independent Gov. Lowell P. Weicker Jr. endorsed Barack Obama's presidential bid Friday

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"Even though I'm almost 77 years old, I want a fresh start and a young start for this country," Weicker said. "I think we've had enough of the old-timers in both parties."

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An Iraq war opponent, Weicker said supporting Republican John McCain was never a consideration.

"Clearly on the issue of the war, there's no way I could back him," he said.

Weicker was a Republican senator from 1971 to 1989, but left the party and remains an independent.

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Weicker lives in Virginia and is working with his alma mater, the University of Virginia, to sort and archive his Senate papers at its special collections library.

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By mary vb on Apr 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT

This is an absolutely brilliant anecdote. Please read about Obama's *lack of experience* answer on the economy.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

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By on Apr 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT
No Global Warming Since 1998 As Planet Cools Off

 

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
April 4, 2008

Top UN scientists have been forced to admit that natural weather occurrences are having a far greater effect on climate change than CO2 emissions as a continued cooling trend means there has been no global warming since 1998.

But despite overwhelming signs of global cooling - China’s coldest winter for 100 years and record snow levels across Northeast America - allied with temperature records showing a decline - global warming advocates still cling to the notion that the world is cooling because of global warming!

"Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN meteorologists have said," reports the BBC.

"The World Meteorological Organization’s secretary-general, Michel Jarraud, told the BBC it was likely that La Nina would continue into the summer."

"This would mean global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory."

The report admits that La Nina and its counterpart, El Nino, are "two great natural Pacific currents whose effects are so huge they resonate round the world."

Wait a minute.

According to man-made global warming advocates, CO2 emissions are the main driver of climate change and natural weather patterns caused by sun activity and other native contributors play second fiddle.

But here we have UN climate scientists admitting that natural climate change contributors have eclipsed the effect of CO2 emissions for the past 10 years, even as carbon belchers like China and India have increased CO2 output at record levels!

Global temperatures have remained reasonably flat since a decline in 1998 and cooling trends are now being observed despite the fact that carbon dioxide levels have increased in the atmosphere (see graph below

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By rae hart on Apr 4, 2008 11:50 PM EDT

Video of Bobby Kennedy's speech in Indianapolis on Dr. King's death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCg05pTYt0A

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By Annilow on Apr 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT

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Fri, 04/04/08

Monica - I learned to swim (about 60 years ago) on Lake Keystone. It is a pond today. I hope the gators are on Lake Geneva - they are everywhere tho. Glad no one was eaten.

Anybody else watching the Star Wars series on Spike? They ran Episode I tonight. I do see why it drew comments on racism. Still a good movie. Sunday night is the one about Revenge of the Sith or something - network premier - the one where Anikin goes over to the dark side. Tomorrow night is Revenge of the Clones.

I've been thinking we need a new dichotomy of parties -- Dem and Repug are not descernible anymore b/c they are all too in it for the money - I'm sure that's why the war is still raging on - too many folks with defense stocks. I know this is heresy on a Dem blog but I propose a Vote No Incumbent drive for November. Also I think the new dichotomy should be Populist vs. Fascism, except we need a less emotionally charged word than Fascism, even if that's what it actually is.

11:39 near Keystone Lake :~) and so far all is well. Nitie.

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By Steve*in*Nebraska on Apr 5, 2008 12:36 AM EDT

Another note tossed in this leaky frickin'bucket: On topic--

It comes back in flashes and shards. "I shall not seek and I will not accept"....."I see things that never were and say, 'Why not?' My cousin shot in the jungle. Driving old pickup trucks with peace signs homemade on the doors and GO BIG REDneck bumperstickers. Susie Creamcheese, door-to-door Nebraska hippys for Kennedy. "I've been to the mountaintop..." Owsly orange in farm country while learning how to irrigate this desert prairie. Seeing the birth of an undergrund press whose stories rang true. Discovering the reality of a dark, dark, force, shouting, "You can't do that!!" to all the free beings. Music so pure and clear, loudly affirming all. 40 years later, it's the same dance. Celebrating the life of one of the great ones today. Workout time now for the next deal. It's the only game in town, and God help me , I love every damned minute of it.

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 4, 2008 11:53 PM EDT

"We shall overcome because the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." ~MLK, Jr.

...at right angles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geom...

He must had an understanding of quantum physics.

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By * cChalfonte* on Apr 4, 2008 11:56 PM EDT

well done, Danny.

Hi all.  Catching up on John Adams.

See you all later. 

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 5, 2008 12:25 AM EDT

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mary vb
Fri, 04/04/08

I was a child when all that happen. I remember my Dad several months later was sitting in his favorite chair, reading a book while he watching television. The national anthem was playing on the TV. I remember asking him, "Daddy who die?". He looked over at me with a look of shock on his face and then he said, "Nobody". He was watching the beginning of a basketball game. I remember our whole family and community had such a sadness about for years. America lost some of our sweet innocence in that era. It's a good thing we never lost our hope.

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 5, 2008 12:32 AM EDT

he watching s/b he was watching

about for s/b about it for

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By Phil Specht on Apr 5, 2008 12:44 AM EDT

we are getting another chance to do the right thing

let's not let drugs sex and rocknroll get in the way this time

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By Susan Rowe on Apr 6, 2008 12:57 AM EDT

die s/s died

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