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NO MeetUp this week

Written by: Lew Frederick on Apr 1, 2008 4:54 PM EDT

Linked to groups: Billy Reed's Democracy for America

Sorry about the automatic message you received today.

The Venue, formerly Spice, formerly Billy Reed's, has closed as a restaurant, apparently for good.   

We began this MeetUp in September 2003 as a way to join the national discussion to take our country back. At that time it was as part of the presidential campaign of Howard Dean. We had visits from people involved in national and local campaigns for mayor, school board, county board of commissioners and state legislative races. Our largest gathering was more than 150. 

A sizable group gathered at this meetup the night after the 2004 election, and began to formulate our resolve to make a change in advance of the 2006-2008 campaigns for local, state, and federal races. 

While those of us who have continued to attend the meetup continue to look forward to it every month, it has become a small group.  We have a lot to do before the May Primary and the General Election. The number of MeetUp members now working on campaigns, running for office and holding elective office shows how effective the MeetUp has been.  

So... who wants to continue, and on what basis? Shall we meet to talk politics once a month somewhere? Maybe somewhere a bit closer to John and Shirley, who've been putting on the miles to get there?   

Suggestions?       

Lew and Sue

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By Winiferd Nettro on Apr 1, 2008 6:32 PM EDT

Why not try David Reed's to take our country back?  Click here to see what has to be done: http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24119 

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By Annilow on Apr 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT

Pentagon releases memo on harsh tactics
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
7 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Pentagon on Tuesday made public a now-defunct legal memo that approved the use of harsh interrogation techniques against terror suspects, saying that President Bush's wartime authority trumps any international ban on torture.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_o...

John Yoo is an evildoer like his friends Cheney and Bush.

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By Tom Bearse on Apr 1, 2008 11:06 PM EDT

Linda wrote "I do agree, there are more and more Dean folks on mydd and supporting Hillary."

People here are aware of it.  What kind of lowlife would stand silently by while Clinton supporters trash Howard Dean for his role in keeping illicit primary results out of Florida and Michigan from vitiating the delegate count?  It's beneath contempt.  There certainly are ex-BFA backstabbers at myDD promoting Clinton.  What a sleazy group of vermin.

 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 1, 2008 11:07 PM EDT

Test:

Howard is on first. 

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By mary vb on Apr 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT

Were the triplet bovines an april fools' joke?

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT

"...there are more and more Dean folks on mydd and supporting Hillary."

 

< ^ I find ^that^ so hard to fathom.  

But, that said (and, this is not an endorsement...it is just what I like to say to Repug Clinton-hating honkies), "I am not afraid of Hillary Clinton"

Seriously though, former people for Dean dis'ing Howie proves they were fair weather pecker-woods. 

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By Fox Mulder on Apr 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT

The theme of Atlas Shrugged is the role of the mind in man's existence and, consequently, presentation of the morality of rational self-interest.[3]

The main conflicts of the book surrounds the decision of the "individuals of the mind" to go on strike, refusing to contribute their inventions, art, business leadership, scientific research, or new ideas of any kind to the rest of the world. Society, they believe, hampers them by interfering with their work and underpays them by confiscating the profits and dignity they have rightfully earned. The peaceful cohesiveness of the world disintegrates, lacking those individuals whose productive work comes from mental effort. The strikers believe that they are crucial to a society that exploits them, denying them freedom or acknowledging their right to self-interest, and the gradual collapse of civilization is triggered by their strike.

The novel's title is an allusion to the Greek Titan Atlas who was described as literally holding the world on his shoulders, discussing what might happen if those holding up civilization suddenly decided to stop doing so

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By Fox Mulder on Apr 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT

3.

Fox Mulder
Tue, 04/01/08

Wikopedia

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 1, 2008 11:26 PM EDT

What's up, Bob...hahaha

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By mary vb on Apr 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT

Petraeus linked to Colonel's suicide. This just makes my blood boil.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

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By mary vb on Apr 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT

Got it, fox. LOL

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 1, 2008 11:33 PM EDT

Seems to me, Fox, that people like W are parasites on the genius of this nation and the world.

W would enslave John Galt. 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 1, 2008 11:41 PM EDT

Mary vb, thanks for that link. 

"Westhusing, 44"

OMG but war sucks 

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By Sitka on Apr 1, 2008 11:47 PM EDT

Olbermann destroyed Hillary tonight by reading the entire endorsement of her by "vast right wing" conspirator Richard Mellon Scaife -- in the voice of C. Montgomery Burns.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 1, 2008 11:57 PM EDT

Olbermann destroyed Hillary tonight ...-- in the voice of C. Montgomery Burns.

^I saw a bit of that, which was a hoot!  But one thing that stuck me was the steel-gonads she has.  She's like David (in a sense) going into the Lion's Den.  

opinions... 

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By Sitka on Apr 1, 2008 11:59 PM EDT

What a sleazy group of vermin.

That's stretching it a bit. They're just misguided fools choking on their own bile.

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By Sitka on Apr 2, 2008 12:02 AM EDT

She's like David (in a sense) going into the Lion's Den.

I think it was Daniel who did that.

And there's nothing brave about going into the lions' den when you know they won't eat you, but instead want to praise you in order to hurt your party in the fall election.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 2, 2008 12:03 AM EDT

President Bush's wartime authority trumps any international ban on torture.

^That is W speaking to his base. They elected him.  Don't like it?  Vote 'im out next time you enter the voting booth.  Repugs elect princes and Kings who do as they will.  That is republican democracy.

Elect a Dem and turn up the heat in the Press, because Dems listen to the people ...after election day. 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 2, 2008 12:06 AM EDT

I think it was Daniel who did that.

< It either was or was not. 

 It was Daniel.

You thought right. 

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By Sitka on Apr 2, 2008 12:08 AM EDT

Elect a Dem and turn up the heat in the Press, because Dems listen to the people ...after election day.

You've apparently forgotten The Clintons' last 6 years --  not to mention the half of the party that gave Bush almost everything he demanded in his first term -- and DCDems near complete failure to live up to their promises in the 2006 election.

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 2, 2008 12:10 AM EDT
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By Imn2Paine on Apr 2, 2008 12:14 AM EDT

Elect a Dem and turn up the heat in the Press, because Dems listen to the people ...after election day.

By ^that I mean the Dems can be manipulated.

  Repugs, by my assertion, couldn't give $v@K what The People say

(because they got their say on election day). 

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By Pat in Colorado on Apr 2, 2008 12:16 AM EDT

Quick hello before the sleep train.

I'm sorry to have missed Keith Olbermann.  It seems legitimate to me to read
Scaife's endorsement.  If anyone for a minute thinks that Hillary and McCain have a hair's worth of difference between them, not for what they say, but for what they do, their ethics, they are deluded.

What we are finding out is that the people who support Barack Obama support him for the quality of his thinking and experience.  He is different, is what we need.  When I hear over and over how much people want peace; yet, they want a fighter, I have to ask myself, do they really not see the disconnect?  War doesn't bring peace; a fighter is not a peace maker.

I can't help but compare this country to Rome in its demise.  Over 600 plus military bases, the resources of wealth and power going to the very few; more and more middle class people and poor people without resources, options, or support while the military gets ever bigger; more and more weapons are taking the major resources in the budget, and anyone who talks of peace or conciliation (willing to visit people who are considered our enemies) is derided as weak.  

As long as this race goes on, more and more people are beginning to learn about Obama and to see through the sound bytes and propaganda of Hillary Clinton and John McCain. This is a good thing.  We have one chance, perhaps the most important vote in my entire life, and if we don't vote for Obama, we are voting to continue the same policies, the same collusion between government and corporations, the same destruction of infrastructure, and the same disillusion and decay represented by opportunists who are greedily, wantonly destroying the ideals that we have held so dear for the life of this republic, even when we have violated them.

I think the mentality is interesting that sees no difference between Hillary Clinton and Bill and Barack Obama.  I'm puzzled, wonder what it is people are seeing at all.  Our only chance for a change, for ethics, for the people of this country to truly participate in their government is to vote for Obama.  Will the people be wise enough to do this?  Our future is in the balance. 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 2, 2008 12:23 AM EDT

Our only chance for a change, for ethics, for the people of this country to truly participate in their government is to vote for Obama.

 

Is the DNC asking it's supporters to do a neighborhood effort to influence the public. 

All of us ... talking to people we come across (who may trust us more than the media)? 

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By Imn2Paine on Apr 2, 2008 12:26 AM EDT

Yep, I need to locate my slipper before midnight.

Farewell
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By mary vb on Apr 2, 2008 12:08 AM EDT

the clinton moment by kid oakland.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4...

No need to ever comment when kid oakland writes a diary - he is so fabulous.

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By mary vb on Apr 2, 2008 12:21 AM EDT

This part of kid oakland's diary isn't sitting well with me --

If Hillary decides to push to Denver, in particular if she picks up John and Elizabeth Edwards' endorsement--

does kid know something the rest of us don't? Why the heck would Edwards endorse a ship that's sinking so fast? After reading about Hillary's campaign money issues (not paying the little guys) - I think she's running on fumes. Makes no sense to me.

Nite folks.

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By mary vb on Apr 2, 2008 12:24 AM EDT

Obama keeps cash lead over Clinton.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/articl...

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By Sitka on Apr 2, 2008 1:11 AM EDT

does kid know something the rest of us don't?

How could he? If you had juicy piece of inside campaign news would you give it to him or a real political reporter?

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By mary vb on Apr 2, 2008 12:27 AM EDT

MoDo: the Hillary Waltz.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/02/opinio...

Now I'm really gone!

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By Sitka on Apr 2, 2008 1:27 AM EDT

Hillary's Man Says Voters Should Be Heard Ignored

Harold Ickes:

When I asked Ickes if the Hillary campaign would still try to woo super-dels even if she was behind in the popular vote counting Florida and Michigan, he said: "I think being ahead in the popular vote is an important factor. I don't think it's dispositive...if at the end of the process she's running very slightly behind in the delegates overall, the popular vote vote will be important. I don't think it's absolutely critical." .....

Ickes also said that it was possible that Hillary supporters on the convention credentials committee would bring a minority report to force a floor vote if the committee's solution on Florida and Michigan wasn't to the campaign's liking, but he predicted it likely wouldn't come to that and said Hillary doesn't want that to happen.

"My sense is it'll be resolved before then, but if it goes into the credentials committee we can always bring out a minority report and take it to the floor of the convention. Hillary does not want that. We don't think it's good for the party. We don't think it's good for the nominee.

In summation, Hillary wants the votes of MI and FL counted because she "doesn't want voters disenfranchised," but will ignore them if she winds up with less than Obama. 

She also doesn't want a floor fight at the convention, but will do it anyway if it's in her political interests.

And she wonders why she's gone from inevitable nominee to life support candidate? 

 

 

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By audrey.nc on Apr 2, 2008 12:59 AM EDT



Ventura on Larry King show. 83% vote that he should run for president. That certainly says a lot for all the billion dollars that will have been spent on fancy pretense, when what we need is the plain truth

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By puddle on Apr 2, 2008 2:10 AM EDT

BTW, Howard's still the firstest with the mostest. . . .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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By Monica Smith on Apr 2, 2008 4:43 AM EDT

Good morning, everybody

 

There is a season for everything and at the moment we're in wait and see mode.

our link meetings have also shrunk.  But then, we've got at least nine who are now elected officials and in NH that means lots of meetings. 

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By Monica Smith on Apr 2, 2008 4:50 AM EDT

i just love how some people manage to feel constrained to do what they don't want to do because it will get them what they want.  It's that paternal posture which forbears giving a beating, but will do so, if that's what it takes to get commands obeyed.

Remember Bush telling us he didn't want to go to war? 

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By * rdorgan on Apr 2, 2008 5:11 AM EDT

5:22 AM EDT

fyi - new Front thread

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