Howard Dean and Jim Dean are  numero uno.

2:22 PM EDT 

hmhhh, the gall of it all:

http://media.www.carolinianonline.com/media/storage/paper301/news/2008/03/25/Opinions/Stop-Digging.How.Dare.You-3282075.shtml

How dare you?

Jordan Dubois

Issue date: 3/25/08 Section: Opinions

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How dare you try to move people with the spoken word! Who do you think you are? You ought to be ashamed of yourself, making everybody feel so optimistic about politics and their country!

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How dare you attend an all African-American church whose pastor has fairly radical views! Me? Oh, well my all-white Southern Baptist church is extremely accepting. Just no homosexuals please. Or pro-choice folks. But everyone else is welcome. And I always agree one hundred percent with the ideas of my pastor. I mean, who doesn't? Thinking for yourself is overrated anyway.

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How dare you be so young and inexperienced! C'mon, only the most politically experienced presidents like Nixon and Buchanan do well. And then look at the ones without much political experience like Washington and that Lincoln guy. I think it is obvious that experience is the key to success as a president.

How dare you claim to be in touch with the American people! Just because you were born to a middle-class family, because you barely knew your father after your parents divorced, and because you worked your way up the social and economic ladder, doesn't necessarily mean that you are more in touch with normal Americans than the other candidates. How dare you know so much about sports and other normal things! Sportsmanship, competition, and teamwork, three traits that are not even slightly important in politics!

How dare you try to win this election by giving hope to the disenfranchised! That generation of voters from 2000 who feel cheated, they don't really even count. And all those college students this year who support you, what do they know? The future of politics in our nation is interest groups and old people. We have no use for these younger generations.

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OK linda you beat me to it. I had just done an important poll which showed the same results:)

Wow!

Three cheers for Jordan Dubois!!!!

rdorgan. thanks .

hey hq, when are you going to fix this blog?

Just a drop by to post this as I thought you all may find interesting.

This I think is what has bothered Tom, but to be honest, I didn't read previously the precise language.

It sounds like the DNC will have to county Florida and Michigan if they want to count Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

President Clinton: New Hampshire Broke The Rules Too

by andrewalker08,
Just over a month ago, I published a diary titled "Note to the DNC: Apply the rules equally & fairly" in which I argued that the Democratic National Committee had not applied the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2008 Democratic National Convention equally and fairly to all states who were in violation of Rule 11.A.; the " Timing of the Delegate Selection Process" rule.

According to Rule 11.A., Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina were all given specific dates on which to conduct their primaries and caucuses. When those three states moved their "first determining stage" caucuses and primaries to January 3rd (IA), January 8th (NH), and January 26th (SC), they were all in violation of Rule 11.A. along with Florida and Michigan.

Yesterday, while speaking to the West Side (Indiana) Democratic Club, President Clinton rightly said that "Democrats let New Hampshire go out of turn," [Source: 3/24/2008 National Journal/Hotline On Call blog "WJC: NH Voted "Out Of Turn"]. As I said last month, Florida and Michigan were not the only states who broke the rules, but they were the only states that were punished. And I'm proud to see that President Clinton has brought an heightened awareness to this very important fact.


...Rule 11.A. of the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2008 Democratic National Convention states the following:
11. TIMING OF THE DELEGATE SELECTION PROCESS
A. No meetings, caucuses, conventions or primaries which constitute the first determining stage in the presidential nomination process (the date of the primary in primary states, and the date of the first tier caucus in caucus states) may be held prior to the first Tuesday in February or after the second Tuesday in June in the calendar year of the national convention. Provided, however, that the Iowa precinct caucuses may be held no earlier than 22 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the Nevada first-tier caucuses may be held no earlier than 17 days before the first Tuesday in February; that the New Hampshire primary may be held no earlier than 14 days before the first Tuesday in February; and that the South Carolina primary may be held no earlier than 7 days before the first Tuesday in February. In no instance may a state which scheduled delegate selection procedures on or between the first Tuesday in February and the second Tuesday in June 1984 move out of compliance with the provisions of this rule.


This past Sunday, as I announced my candidacy for Democratic National Convention delegate from Georgia's 13th Congressional district, I was quoted in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution as saying that if elected, I would indeed vote to restore the voting rights of the two states that were punished for breaking the rules [Source: 3/23/2008 Atlanta Journal-Constitution article "Choice of Democratic nominee may rest with panel"]. What wasn't included in the article, however, were my comments on the subject of this diary; the fact that five states broke the rules but only two states were punished. I firmly believe that all five states -- Florida, Iowa, Michigan, New Hampshire, and South Carolina -- should all be punished equally and fairly or they shouldn't be punished at all.

I don't believe you can pick and choose which states are penalized and which ones are not because that flies in the face of what I believe to be one of the Democratic Party's most cherished philosophies; that philosophy being that we're the Party of those who work hard and play by the rules.

That being said, it would be foolhardy for me to think that the Rules & Bylaws Committee of the Democratic National Committee would go back and retroactively hand down sanctions to Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina for breaking the same rules that Florida and Michigan broke. So, the only choice at this point is , barring a re-vote in those two states, to fully restore the voting rights of the Sunshine State and the Wolverine State at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/25/1046...

rdorgan. thanks .  

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linda b and Joan -

No problem.

Dubois has a way of cutting through the media fog to the heart of the matter -- that there's a lot of Hope out there amongst most Americans that no amount of Fear, this time, will turn asunder.

Those afraid of change ?  suggestion - they, better hang-on for the ride

linda b

Tue, 03/25/08

hey hq, when are you going to fix this blog?

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I feel very confident in saying that the redesign of the website and blog will be completed in a little over a month.  Thanks.

Danny
Communications Director

Howard has done exactly as he SHOULD as chair of the DNC during this intense Presidential primary season - taking no sides publicly. Having said that, I think it's safe to say that Senator Obama's primary strategy matches Howard's fifty-state strategy exactly. During the upcoming general election campaign, Obama will have very long coat tails in important Congressional campaigns.

2:39 PM EDT

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-campaign26mar26,1,167030.story?track=rss

Obama campaign posts his tax returns on Web

By Michael Muskal, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

10:51 AM PDT, March 25, 2008

The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama today posted his tax returns on its website, a move designed to pressure Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to release her financial information.

The campaigns have sparred over tax and financial information before. For the Obama campaign, the issue is part of its effort to portray the New York senator as hiding key information or in some case exaggerating it.

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Obama's tax returns from 2000 to 2006 were posted this morning, the campaign announced. Much of the information had been previously released to news organizations.

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The tax issue came up in Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign, but in a different way. Republican candidate Rick Lazio was followed by a protester who called himself Tax Man, demanding that Lazio makes his documents public.

The Clinton campaign used the issue to embarrass Lazio.

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Thanks, rdorgan. A pretty good piece - with just a "smidge" of sarcasm - lol.

2:42 PM EDT

Howard has done exactly as he SHOULD as chair of the DNC

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David -

Amen.

Question for environmentally blue - any comment on Senator Clinton's being against counting Florida and Michigan, until she needed them to have any kind of chance to get the nomination ?

LOL Danny--

So do you want to go to dinner?

http://my.barackobama.com/page/m/f131680daa1dcfd9/hRnbra/VEsF/ 

Danny thanks for the quick response.

Wow is Bill gonna just implode along with Hillary? Just shut up Bill.

You don't make the rules anymore.

Go Home.

Yep. She goes there.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

Clinton is not worthy of my vote. ever.

Blue, I think that those states were APPROVED by the DNC. Mi and Fl were not.

But thanks for the info.

Now if we could just get Linda in NM to post. I always enjoyed her comments.

Its reassuring the blog design and wb site will be up to snuff in about a month......post office training has paid off well..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZfwuCjbBDk&NR=1

environmentally wrote "This I think is what has bothered Tom, but to be honest, I didn't read previously the precise language.  It sounds like the DNC will have to county Florida and Michigan if they want to count Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina."

I've been suggesting the problem with the inequitable application of the rules for months.  However, use some logic to recognize that the proper remedy is to not certify all the delegates who violated the delegate selection rules, not to certify some and not others.  

As it is, you must realize that it is the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee that is authorized to make the final determination.  They granted waivers to the states that moved their delegate selection contests within the preprimary window, as opposed to moving those contests into the window from outside of it.  Frankly, your complaint is properly with the committee members, Harold Ickes among them.

North Carolina (3/25)
Obama 55%
Clinton 34%
Obama +21
Source: Public Policy Polling

Pennsylvania (3/25)
Clinton 49%
Obama 39%
Clinton +10
Source: Rasmussen

National (3/25)
Obama 47%
Clinton 45%
Obama +2
Source: Gallup

Clinton 46%
Obama 43%
Clinton +3
Source: Rasmussen

WASN'T HILLARY UP 20 POINTS IN PA A WEEK AGO?

linda wrote "Now if we could just get Linda in NM to post. I always enjoyed her comments."

Here is a comment of hers for you to enjoy from today's myDD, which I had reproduced on the last thread:

"Oh, I see, you want to close your eyes to reality. It's ok, just do the healing thing offline, oK? Hillary has over taken her lead as the polls show.  Hillary has grown her lead in PA. Hillary is now 1 pt up on Obama in North Carolina.  And looking very good for Indiana and South Carolina. So, again, facts paint a different picture."

HEY MCCAIN, GET YOUR WRINKLED SELF OVER TO IRAQ. THINGS ARE GOING FINE . AND DON'T FORGET TO TAKE HILLARY AND LIE BERMAN WITH YOU. AND OH THAT LOVELY GIRLY MAN FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. LYNDSEY.

Hillary never had a security clearance during her White House years so how can she claim foreign policy experience exactly? Bill would never have been allowed to speak about certain things. My husband was assigned to the Embassy in Rome as a naval officer and he never shared diddly with me.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

Well, talk about politics and strange bedfellows.

Hillary's anti-Jeremiah Wright palaver to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is most noteworthy for the fact that the paper is owned by Richard Mellon Scaife, one of the key players in the "vast right-wing conspiracy" of yore.

The fact that she's talking to the Trib-Review at all is low-rent along the lines of McCain kissing Bush's patootie after Bush slandered him and his adopted daughter in their 2004 primary "campaign".

I want to vote for someone who has at least a shred of dignity and self-control, which is why I can't vote for either Hill or Johnny Mac.

If Obama doesn't get the nom, I'll write him in the way I wrote in Howard last time. I live in NY, I have the luxury of spoiling my vote without a care. The state will vote Dem with or without me.

-- volney

David wrote "any comment on Senator Clinton's being against counting Florida and Michigan, until she needed them to have any kind of chance to get the nomination?" 

What is so striking about the Clinton campaign's change of heart about certifying delegates in Michigan and Florida is the unveiled duplicity and bad faith involved, as evidenced by her previous decision to sign and abide by the four state pledge.  The pledge sets out the candidate's understanding that Michigan and Florida are in breach of the delegate selection rules.  Here is a statement from 9/1/07 issued by then Clinton Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle:

"We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.  And we believe the DNC’s rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role. Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar."

On that basis, the campaign indicated its understanding that the votes in Michigan and Florida would not count.  Of course, Clinton campaigned in the four early states, tending to suggest she concurred with the decision of the R&B committee, despite the fact that three of the four, as environmentally points out, were in violation of the rules.  After winning the a majority of votes in the states that her campaign represented would and should not count, she decided, as a matter of necessity to the survival of her campaign, to make an issue of the unfariness of precluding the results of those contests. 

Based on such statements, one would have thought that the pious plea to have these votes tallied and the delegates seated was a forthright expression of belief that they should always have been in play, and that the Obama camp was actually trying to have legitimate votes go uncounted.  However, the campaign's own statements and actions reveal this is not at all the case.  Quite the contrary, it was a matter of cynical politics at its worse.

Jo,

Please, please stay here.  You do belong here.

I'm confused, I thought Environ Blue was the same person as a person who previously posted here.

Now if we could just get Linda in NM to post

Haven't seen hide nor hair of her since Bill Richardson in NM endorsed Barack.

Hillary Clinton in January, 2008 after her "win" in Florida and prior to super Tuesday:

"I am convinced that with this resounding vote, with the millions of Americans who will vote next Tuesday, we will send a clear message that America is back, and we will take charge of our destiny once again," she said.

As Richardson said, the Clintons believe they are entitled to win the primary and the WH.

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&requestId=71e9479016300f57&clickedItemRank=6&userQuery=clinton+florida+against+counting+votes&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Felection2008%2F2008-01-29-Democrats_N.htm&title=%3Cb%3EClinton%3C%2Fb%3E+lauds+%3Cb%3EFlorida%3C%2Fb%3E%3B+Obama+looks+to+Kansas+-+USATODAY.com&moduleId=matchingsites.jsp.M&clickedItemPageRanking=6&clickedItemPage=1&clickedItemDescription=WebResults

Great new polls.

After Obama spends time in PA with the bus tour, they will get even better.  They always do once people get to hear and meet him.

Clinton is not worthy of my vote. ever.

mary vb~ I used to be a *staunch* Democrat and vote the party line regardless. But my vote is not to be taken for granted, it must be earned. Therefore, I now am a *staunch* Democrat.

btw, Clinton is not worthy of my vote. ever.

I'm confused, I thought Environ Blue was the same person as a person who previously posted here.

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I think so too.

It is once again legal to shoot wolves from the air in AK.  Cowards.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/355607.html

Obama Statement on Report of the Trustees of Social Security and Medicare

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hqblog

Let us be done with the politics of fear, and embrace the politics of hope.

Further regarding the diary to which vb linked, this is the lead graf from Patrick Healy's NYT report:

"Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton broke her week-long silence Tuesday morning about Senator Barack Obama’s relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, saying that she would have changed churches if her pastor had made the racially divisive and anti-American remarks that Mr. Wright had made."

One more white person telling black people what he or she thinks they ought to do.  How unhelpful. 

I'm white, but perhaps Sen. Clinton wouldn't mind me mentioning what I would do if I were in her situation:  STFU.

The real Bosnia story.
Hillary didn't tell the whole story...
When the plane landed, there was gunfire all around. So many bullets, it sounded like a nest of bees.
She ran out the door...ripped the sleeves off her jacket and blouse...with bulging biceps, grabbed the 90 pound M-Deuce with one beefy hand, slung the ammo belt over her other tatooed arm, and started streaming 50 cal bullets into the bad guys. Everyone wearing blue - especially those in blue dresses were blasted away. All the time she was juking and dodging in her custom made 6 inch stelletto heels as she went after the evil-doers. She saw a wounded 8 year old girl. She slung the wounded tyke over one shoulder and grabbing a pair of MAC-10s, provided suppressing fire. She saved the little girl, all the people on the plane (including a guitar player and comic), and those waiting on the tarmac. After a cigar and a bottle of Slivovitz, she was ready to visit the town.
My hero.

So if BO supporters here are very very very anti-war, how come you're not sitting hard on him to re-state his war-like positions to those of continual war to those of complete withdrawal from the ME militarily and the ceasing of providing Israel with WMD ?  These things could be done with the right prez and cabinet IMO.

How come the BO campaign has been calling for HC to release tax records when BO's were still un-released?

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Monica, from my experience, the great majority of human and animal mothers nurture but that may be changing in humans.

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One of the problems here is that there is a difference in opinion about what's more important, actions or words.  Words, IMO, are very important when writing poetry and most always ludicrous and laughable when coming out of the mouths of politicians.

Actions, IMO, count greatly in both cases.

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While people are concerned about HC's foreign experience or lack of it (along with BO's lack,, neither one has ever run even a state gov't....)and while the focus is on polls and who's lying, bush, cheney and mcc are sealing the repug presidency.  

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Why do some of you want Linda back? She wasn't treated nicely but I really don't remember by whom.  I'm more concerned with whether there's a chance BO or HC can beat the *system lords. *

The real Bosnia story.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

In reference to the diary mary linked.  Why did miss holier than thou stay with her husband after he had oral sex in the oval office with a 21 year old?

Go away HRC.

So I guess if s/o can call HC "miss holier than thou" I can call BO's possible choice for VP "Sominex Woman."  LOL

Time for some reality check...D&G.   

More words of wisdom from intelligent Clinton loyalists at myDD, by a person identified as Shazone: "Then Dean wrote a crappy rule and since rulz are rulz and BO insists on following them...follow them.  Plain and simple."

Followed by "Dean's DNC wrote those rulz.  So BO should abide by them, crappy or not...a rule is a rule is a rule...according to Bo And Fans."

Here's a poster called grlpatriot: "I place full blame where it should rightly go -- on the Republican Gov, Republican controlled legislature, and Dean for stripping all our delegates. At least the RNC only penalized by 1/2 and allowed the candidates to campaign here."  

Followed by "And to think, I supported Dean for president. If this is how well he manages the DNC, which is almost bankrupt, just imagine what he would have done to the country. He might have done slightly better than Bush. I find no comfort in that what so ever."

A poster identified as ChargedFan responded "Hmmm, point well made.  But look on the bright side, even if our country would be perhaps bankrupt as has seemed to happen to the DNC under his leadership, at least we would not likely be in this war.  So I'd have to think we'd be much better off in at least some ways."

One more comment from a Mensa member going by the name of BRockNYC: "The point is not to have a problem with NH (HRC won there.  Remember?), the problem is in punishing MI and FL for essentially breaking the same rule.  The solution is to let them all count.  Don't punish any of them. Then fire Howard Dean.  And excommunicate Donna Brazile."

Now you get some idea of exactly what we're dealing with in this instance.

Our cands are like ostriches with heads in the sand.

Dave Lindorff: News of Rapid Glacial Melting Raises a Big Question for Presidential Candidates As an issue, climate change dwarfs race, war, the economy and Hillary's integrity. But nobody's asking the three presidential candidates what they'll do if it really threatens life on earth.

Another example of cands heads in the sand.

Debt: Our 9 Trillion Pound Gorilla Today the national debt is $9.2 trillion. And hardly anyone is talking about this. We've had rabbinical debates about health care and moronic charges about who's ready "on day one" to be president. But the poor bastard who walks into the Oval Office next January will confront the $9 trillion-plus pound gorilla sitting in the room.

Why aren't the dem cands talking about this?

The Probable Cause to Charge Dick Cheney with Mass Murder, Terrorism, and High Treason There is probable cause to indict Dick Cheney for the crime of supervising the events of 911, a capital crime consisting of high treason and mass murder. Not only was Cheney 'supervising' events that day, both Bush and Rice lied about it to the media and the American people.

DNC official: Clinton pursuing the *Tonya Harding* option.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

How sad and pathetic that a senator running for POTUS is behaving like such a low life.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_nic_080325_a_presidential_candi.htmNeither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama can really be called an anti-war candidate. While both contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination say the war in Iraq should not have been launched -- and Obama can actually claim to have understood that fact when it mattered -- they still pull their punches when it comes to talking about pulling all U.S. troops out of the quagmire.

It is more than merely sad that neither of the Democratic presidential candidates could -- or would -- say this:

The tragic marker of the 4000th U.S. Soldier to fall in Iraq is now before the American people - with no end in sight. During the vigils, marches and Winter Soldiers' heartfelt testimonies on the occasion of the fifth anniversary of the invasion-occupation of Iraq, there was a common expression of public frustration over the rabid intransigence of President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney to end their cruel and costly war crimes.

(definitely worth a read)

Yes, rae hart, she chose to stay with a serial philanderer. Nice choice.

booman delivers again. The Clintons have crossed a final line.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

GREAT NEWS!  BEST CASE SCENARIO

Don't discount Gore-led ticket (1 comments) we may see a brokered convention, meaning the nominee could emerge from a negotiated settlement. "If it (the nomination process) goes into the convention, don't be surprised if someone different is at the top of the ticket,"

If either Clinton or Obama suggested to a deadlocked convention a ticket of Gore-Clinton or Gore-Obama, the Democratic Party would accept it, Mahoney said.

Mahoney, who is one of the superdelegates who gets to cast a vote at the convention, hasn't endorsed a candidate. He said he doesn't intend to endorse anyone because "I don't see it as my job as a district representative" to endorse a nominee for the presidential race.

If neither Clinton nor Obama has enough delegates to secure the nomination by the time the convention starts Aug. 25, Mahoney will have to cast a superdelegate vote for someone. Superdelegates make up about one-fifth of the total number of delegates to the convention and are free to support any candidate for nomination. Most superdelegates are current or former elected officeholders or party officials.

As an uncommitted superdelegate, Mahoney said he has been wooed by Clinton and Obama for an endorsement. Clinton has been the more aggressive solicitor, Mahoney said.

Mahoney said he has met twice with Obama. He has met more often with Clinton. Two weeks ago, Mahoney attended a cocktail party at Clinton's house in Washington, D.C., he said. Mahoney told of how impressed he is by Clinton's commitment to helping people and her human touch. When Clinton learned that Mahoney's daughter is interested in horses, she called the girl to encourage her interest, Mahoney said.

It's too late, seashell and it aint gonna happen (Gore). I believe (as booman points out as well) that it's time for the party elders to step in and have a talkin' to with Hillary. She and Bill have crossed too many lines.

Why has Hillary Clintons membership in this radical group been given a free pass? We need to keep spreading it around the blogosphere so that the mainstream media can no longer ignore it. Waiting for the book to come out in mid-May is just not good enough.

When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, one of her first steps was to join a Bible study group. For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat.

Clinton's prayer group was part of the Fellowship (or "the Family"), a network of sex-segregated cells of political, business, and military leaders dedicated to "spiritual war" on behalf of Christ, many of them recruited at the Fellowship's only public event, the annual National Prayer Breakfast. (Aside from the breakfast, the group has "made a fetish of being invisible," former Republican Senator William Armstrong has said.) The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan.

http://www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/print_article.pl?url=http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

Gore could emege the candidate from a brokered convention, but it seems so unlikely, and I would hardly characterize it as the best case scenario.  That would more correctly be, in my opinion, if Tinkerbell sprinkled fairy dust on Clinton and Obama and they turned into Gore and Dean, and the two ran as on a ticket as co-presidential candidates.

just when you thought it was safe, two dorsal fins poke out of the water.............it's hillary, gnashing old news [obama's retired pastor] in a feeding frenzy.  following her logic, i'll stick this to her.

HILLARY, YOU CAN'T LEAVE YOUR GRANDMOTHER, BUT YOU HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT YOUR SPOUSE.

bring on the stained blue dress!

This is enuf to chill one.

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=6734 

War And Politics Are Two Different Things

Diary Entry by Muhammad Khurshid

 Like many I am not against politics, but at least I want that war and politics should not be mixed up. In the war innocent people are being killed. Just think for a while how many families, who lost their near and dear ones in the mad war on terror will life in pain and agony.

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Rulers, who are far less in number if compared to the other people, have put the whole world in danger for just playing the game of politics.

Now top US officials in Pakistan and may be playing the game of politics. PPP chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and co-chairman senator Asif Ali Zardari called on visiting US Deputy Secretary of State John Negroponte and Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher here on Tuesday.

"Matters of mutual interest and Pak-US relations were discussed in the meeting," said a statement issued by the PPP media office.

The visiting US officials condoled with Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and Asif Ali Zardari over the death of Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto.

They also felicitated the PPP leaders on the electoral victory and said the United States looked forward to working with the new government.

Senior PPP leader Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi and Hussain Haqqani also accompanied Asif Ali Zardari while the US side was assisted by the Embassy officials.


 

later gators... be kind.

one more thing, as usual.

Most people are assuming there's gonna be an election. 

dog  ~~ for you:

one more thing, as usual.

Most people are assuming there's gonna be an election. 

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Ya.  Same same as the fears being floated in '04 and '06. . . .  

sea, you just need to stay away from rense, lol!  

just when you thought it was safe, two dorsal fins poke out of the water.............it's hillary, gnashing old news [obama's retired pastor] in a feeding frenzy.  following her logic, i'll stick this to her.

HILLARY, YOU CAN'T LEAVE YOUR GRANDMOTHER, BUT YOU HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT YOUR SPOUSE.

bring on the stained blue dress!

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Since Hill's so desperate, bring on the cigar, as well!!!

If Hillary stays in and takes her lumps all the way to the end, voters in fifty states will have had a chance to ratify a bottom up, grassroots driven Democratic Party that can proudly claim to be the party of the people by giving Barack Obama a nomination he got the old fashioned way, and the results will be final. Progressives up, DLC down and no one will be able to argue that we are part of a corporate duopoly.

I trust the voters in the rest of the states to get it right

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24469...

new

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24469...

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24469#comment-1182817

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Consumer confidence sank to a five-year low in March as tight credit markets,

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I disagree, workers didn't get their share of productivity gains and are squeezed by higher prices and are rightfully worried.

the Fed has been pouring liquididty into the system as witnessed by the weak dollar

it is not tight credit if you can't get a $200,000 mortgage on a house worth $160,000

the day of reckoning will come though when interest rates have to rise to keep the currency from total collapse and then times will get hard

we are just in the earliest phases of the chickens coming home to roost from the tax cut caused deficit, the unpaid for war, the current accounts deficit, and the cheap dollar caused high food and oil prices

don't forget the "core" inflation number doesn't include "volitile" food and energy, but everyone eats and buys gasoline

FYI

New Thread

I mentioned this before. When you get your Bush tax rebate check in mail. Put in a savings account and don't spend a penny of it until Christmas. Please don't forget to shop local and give to your local food bank. ;)