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America Sees the Real Hillary: "You Go Girl"
I wrote a diary on mydd.com, "I'm There, I See The Truth. Hillary, You Had Me At Solutions!" a few days ago where I talked about seeing through the enemies of Hillary's distorting and lying about of who and what Hillary is. Corporate Media, well, I can't even say anymore all but pushing her opponent at any means, because we have seen exactly that. Keith Olbermann has decided to use his show as a propaganda outlet to say anything against Hillary, as apparently his means to make the other candidate look better. Recently even taking up with the hinting that maybe the Clinton's actually had something to do with Obama's passport information breach (does he even get embarrassed by his own actions?). We find out Friday that Mrs. Clinton's passport information was breached as far back as last year, but of course that doesn't fit with his conspiracy theory. Anyhow, I have learned that it isn't just me, but it is many other netroots across the country sharing (thank you for all the great comments you shared) in the realization of who the true Hillary is and what she has accomplished. And we can only delight in knowing what she WILL accomplish as President of the United States.
But now it seems the rest of the country and voters are also in tune with that song (yet to be written) as reported from Hillary's recent visit in Indiana.
TERRE HAUTE -- According to her enemies and much of the national news media, Hillary Rodham Clinton is cold, robotic, calculating, vindictive and about as personable as surgical steel.Tell that to Josephine Sullivan.
It's catching on!
Among a cluster of wheelchair-bound residents sitting outside Meadows Manor East to watch Clinton's motorcade pass by on Poplar Street yesterday, Sullivan could not have experienced a more warm or personal touch from the presidential candidate.The fleet of SUVs braked to a halt for several minutes so Clinton could get out of her vehicle, walk over to the seniors, shake hands, pat backs, then lead the small crowd -- which included Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and a phalanx of Secret Service agents -- in singing "Happy Birthday" to the 99-year-old Sullivan. Delighted, Sullivan beamed but never dropped her hand-lettered sign that said, "You go, girl."
...here is your virtual TISSUE.
According to this story though, it wasn't even faith that Hillary would personally meet with them or stop, but just to get a glance of the woman they've learned is awesome and will be a great President, the first Woman President. (We've had 43 Men Presidents, I think it's time for a Woman). But they too were surprised.
try running the cold-robot characterization by 17-year-old South High School senior Hillary Newton.With her father Chris, she was among about 120 Hauteans to line the tarmac fence at Hulman Field just to watch Clinton's ATA charter Boeing 737 touch down after a flight from Washington, D.C.
Politely advised by a national campaign aide that they would not get close enough to the New York senator for a good look -- "She'll be landing way out there. You have a much better chance to see her at the Saratoga diner ..." -- Newton and the other folks chose to stand in the chill morning air anyway "to be a part of history." Their patience was rewarded.
After Clinton deplaned via a stairway gangplank, she eschewed her waiting Chevy Suburban and walked with Bayh to the 12-foot-high chainlink fence. Smiling, laughing, looking people straight in the eyes, she worked her way down the line, signing photos, T-shirts, blank pieces of notebook paper and a 1986 poster of the Arkansas State House that had been signed by her husband when he was governor.
I can feel the excitement they were all experiencing in these words written.
And the day only got more exciting.
All along Clinton's campaign trail in Terre Haute, it was hard to find anyone who was buying her negative national image - certainly not Jackie Bishop, who joined a crowd of at least 1,000 in the parking lot behind the Saratoga with hopes of grabbing just a glimpse of the woman who wants to be commander in chief.Sporting a homemade sign that proclaimed, "I GOT A CRUSH ON HILLARY," Bishop said she had taken the day off from her job as a cashier at Wal-Mart to come downtown. Her sign featured 11 photos of Clinton.
"Bill is supposed to be in these two," Bishop said, pointing to a pair of pictures, "but I cut him out. Not because I'm mad at him, just because it's her sign."
Like the women and men at Hulman Field, Bishop's perseverance paid off. After an hour-long session with local residents inside the Saratoga and a media Q&A with Bayh outside, the two senators climbed upon a small, portable stage and addressed the sun-dappled audience in the parking lot.
With a vigor and enthusiasm that made it all sound brand-new for new sets of ears, Clinton repeated many of the things she had talked about inside the restaurant. When she asked the crowd, "Who would you hire ... to do the toughest job in the world?" the people shouted back, "YOU!!!"
One last hope for company in the Hillary Haters club might have been expected from local news media. After all, journalists everywhere usually can be counted on to hike their cynical legs and pee on almost any politician. Alas, not in Terre Haute.MSNBC's Chris Matthews has opined of the Clinton campaign, "I think her press relations are lousy." But, like so many aspects of American life, perspective from inside the Washington Beltway is often worlds apart from that of the rest of the country.
Good to their word, the Clinton people provided one-on-one interviews for every Hoosier TV and print reporter who had reserved a slot. Nobody with a notebook or camera was shoved, shouted at or made to feel like inconsequential scum.
Time and again, Clinton focused her blue eyes -- made more blue by the deep sapphire-colored pantsuit she wore -- on the reporter at her side. She listened to questions, thought about answers and engaged in a way that belies the astronomical number of times she has been queried and grilled about every element of her existence.
Over and over, local journalists remarked on her "surprising" warmth, natural manner and graciousness.
But, hey, what do we know? We don't hang out on Capitol Hill, dine with presidential aides or call members of Congress by their nicknames. We're just everyday people who live in "fly-over country," Terre Haute, Indiana, one of a zillion stops on the long, grueling campaign trail of Hillary Clinton.
Is it possible that the Corporate Media might catch up to the rest of the country?
...stay tuned.
Here is the link of the excellentt article on Ms. Clinton's visit. Drop the Journalist, Ms. Salter, a line to say thank you for a great job on reporting!
STEPHANIE SALTER: Stop the presses -- Hillary is a real human being
By Stephanie Salter
The Tribune-Star
http://www.tribstar.com/opinion/local_story_080235028.html
“The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his [her]deception, the one who lies with sincerity” ---Andre Gide(French writer, humanist and moralist, 1947 nobel prize for literature, 1869-1951)
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(New Book) The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power (May '08)
http://jeffsharlet.blogspot.com/2008/02/...
"Just when we thought the Christian right was crumbling, Jeff Sharlet delivers a rude shock: One of its most powerful and cult-like core groups, the "Family," has been thriving and even drawing in Democrats like Hillary Clinton. Sharlet's book is one of the most compelling and brilliantly researched exposes you'll ever read-- just don't read it alone at night!"
--Barbara Ehrenreich, author of Nickel and Dimed, Bait and Switch, and Dancing in the Streets
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Where the Money Leads
Media Transparency follows the money fueling the right-wing movement, to show how conservative philanthropies, through their tax-exempt funding strategies, shape public discourse.
The big givers include Milwaukee's Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Smith Richardson Foundation, and the Scaife, Koch, Coors, and Walton family foundations. They alone have poured $28 million into the American Enterprise Institute. That kind of money buys a lot of "experts."
With coordinated giving on a grand scale, they've led the way in funding a movement to radically alter the social, legal, educational, media, political and religious landscapes of the United States, building a supply-side machinery for implementing a hard-right agenda.
Media Transparency follows their money and what it buys with a unique database -- 50,000 grants to 9,000 recipients for $3.5 billion -- and 60 to 70 original articles per year that connect the dots between the money and the movement's radical public policy goals. .... http://www.mediatransparency.org/whereth...
environmentally blue
Joined DFA on: 01/30/08
Zip Code: 33167 Miami, FL
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What would somebody from FL ever know about being a Hooiser?
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This is a repost from the mydd blog.
Consultant spending saps Clinton campaign By: Kenneth P. Vogel
Feb 21, 2008
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Clinton last month doled out $15 million to a cadre of trusted political hands, mostly based in Washington. Photo: AP
Hillary Rodham Clinton started the year flush with cash, but by the beginning of this month, she'd blazed through most of it — spending $11 million on ads, $3.8 million on messaging guru Mark Penn and $1,300 at Dunkin' Donuts, to name just a few expenditures — leaving her campaign woefully unprepared for an extended battle for the Democratic presidential nomination.
About $15 million — or more than half of the New York senator’s January spending — went to a cadre of high-priced consultants. Though much of the cash went through the campaign media buyer for ad time, the considerable payments to outside consultants mark an increase in a pattern that has irked campaign insiders. From the beginning of the race through the end of last month, Clinton paid the consultants $33 million — nearly one-third of the $105 million spent by the campaign.
That provides some of the back story behind Clinton’s staff shake-up, her public appeals for campaign cash in the past two weeks and even her string of 10 straight losses to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama since Super Tuesday, Feb. 5.
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She simply did not have the cash to compete in the post-Feb. 5 states, mostly because her campaign spending blueprint was built around two flawed premises: that no one would be able to match her fundraising and that the nomination would be decided on Super Tuesday. ...full article: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/020...
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Hillary Campaign "In The Red" By Greg Sargent - March 21, 2008
The latest FEC reports appear to suggest that the Hillary campaign may be in the red:
Despite a strong month of fund-raising in February in which she brought in $35 million, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton finished the month essentially in the red, once her campaign’s outstanding debts are factored in, as well as her personal loan, according to filings submitted late last night to the Federal Election Commission.
After spending about $31 million in her efforts to keep up with Senator Barack Obama, Mrs. Clinton finished February with more than $33 million in cash on hand, but $21.5 million of that is earmarked exclusively for the general election, leaving her with $11.7 million for the primary.
Mrs. Clinton, however, loaned her campaign $5 million earlier this year and she listed $8.7 million in debts to various vendors, making clear why she has not yet paid herself back from her loan.
It should be noted, however, that Hillary isn't obliged to repay the $5 million debt to herself. Nonetheless, even factoring in that, once you subtract the other debts her cash on hand number would be in the neighborhood of $3 million.
By contrast, Obama has over $30 million on hand for the primary.
Here's where this really hurts: With the super-delegates. The Clintons' fundraising prowess has been one of the factors convincing the super-dels that this race isn't over and that they should wait out the contest. Revelations like this one could make it a good deal tougher to make this case. ...full article: http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm...
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Clinton Campaign Entered This Month in Debt by Jonathan Singer, Sat Mar 22, 2008
For the second straight month, Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign has found itself in the red. Here's The New York Times' Caucus blog (via Greg Sargent):
Despite a strong month of fund-raising in February in which she brought in $35 million, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton finished the month essentially in the red, once her campaign's outstanding debts are factored in, as well as her personal loan, according to filings submitted late last night to the Federal Election Commission.
After spending about $31 million in her efforts to keep up with Senator Barack Obama, Mrs. Clinton finished February with more than $33 million in cash on hand, but $21.5 million of that is earmarked exclusively for the general election, leaving her with $11.7 million for the primary.
Mrs. Clinton, however, loaned her campaign $5 million earlier this year and she listed $8.7 million in debts to various vendors, making clear why she has not yet paid herself back from her loan.
Doing the math, when you count the debts and obligations owed by Clinton (including to herself), her campaign is about $2 million in the red. Even when Clinton's peronal loan to her campaign is taken out of the mix, the campaign had just a net $3 million in the bank entering the month of March. While these numbers represent an improvement from the previous month, when the Clinton campaign was a net $3.6 million in debt, they still raise questions about the continued viability of the campaign at a time when the delegate math for Clinton is going from bad to worse. ... http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/22/0443...
Supporters of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign filed signatures to qualify him for the May 6 Democratic primary and a number of Indiana legislators have endorsed his campaign, according to state campaign chairman Kip Tew. A significant portion of the entire Lake County delegation - Reps. Chet Dobis, Charlie Brown, Linda Lawson, Mara Candeleria Reardon, Vernon Smith and Sen. Earline Rogers - have endorsed Obama. A number of Indianapolis legislators - Reps. John Day, John Bartlett, Vanessa Summers, Greg Porter, William Crawford, Jeb Bardon - are also on board. In southwestern Indiana, the list includes Sen. Lindel Hume and Reps. Dennis Avery, Phil Hoy and Dave Crooks. And in the South Bend area, those endorsing Obama include Rep. Ryan Dvorak and Sen. John Broden. The endorsement list indicates significant Obama support in the 1st (Northwest Indiana), 2nd (South Bend), 7th (Indianapolis) and 8th (Southwestern Indiana) Congressional districts.
More Hooiser endorsements for Obama
Vice Chairwoman of the Indiana Democratic Party Cordelia Lewis-Burks (superdelegate)
Democratic National Committee member Connie Thurman (superdelegate)[1
Hoosiers opened their wallets widest for Obama in February
By MAUREEN GROPPE
Gannett Washington Correspondent
WASHINGTON -- Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., is now the top recipient of Hoosier dollars in the presidential race, according to the Federal Election Commission.
Obama raised more than $197,000 from Indiana in February, the most of any of the Democratic or Republican candidates and enough to push Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., out of first place for total dollars raised from the state. ... http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dl...
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Clinton-Obama race could affect local turnout By LARRY RILEY
...The primary might help Democratic governor candidate Jill Long Thompson, a former congresswoman. Those who opt for Obama over Clinton might balance their mental ticket by pulling for a woman as state chief executive, and those pushing for the first female president might do likewise for Indiana's top job. ... http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dl...
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The Obama controversy
NEIL STEVENSON
Muncie
March 18 is a day that should be remembered. Not as a defensive stance toward media coverage on the controversial words of a pastor, but as a moving speech by a forward-thinking man on an issue that has been avoided by most politicians throughout history. Sen. Barack Obama did not do what most politicians would have done and throw a longtime friend under a bus at the first sign of controversy. Instead, he has shown the American people an ideal candidate we should be proud to elect into office.
Everyone who believes he should have disowned a friend of 20-plus years over a disagreement in beliefs illustrate nothing but hypocrisy at its finest. Anyone who would do such a thing, should be ashamed to call themselves a Christian, a Muslim, a Jew, or any other religious affiliation. Go back, read the words that speak of love, hope and how you should project that personality even toward those with whom you may not agree. If this pastor is a man who is "like family" to Obama, who are we to say he should turn a cold shoulder? Could you turn your back on a family member, on a lifelong friend? I highly doubt it.
Obama's words have challenged us to take a look at our progress on issues of race and prejudice. Sadly, we have not come all that far. Let us hope that Obama is elected, because he is the ideal candidate to help bring about the unity that the American people desperately need. ... http://www.thestarpress.com/apps/pbcs.dl...
environmentally wrote "I didn't realize posting on a political blog that required membership could risk my home, life and existence."
Believing your existence is now at risk from posting on this blog site is as credible as thinking Clinton would make a high quality president on the basis of breezy, anecdotal, human interest vignettes. Here's your virtual reentry pass back to reality.
The Tale of Bosnian Sniper Fire (TRAILER)
Coming soon to a superdelegate near you: Hillary in Tuzla.
It's an unbelievable tale of heroism, written and directed by Mark J. Penn.
The Baltimore Sun calls it a "whopper."
"Four Pinocchios!" says the Washington Post.
"Requires enormous suspension of disbelief" raves the Huffington Post.
see the trailer HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It6JN7ALF...
While I Breath, I HOPE: http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24391...
bloggies video upload feature isn't working.
First a Tense Talk With Clinton, Then Richardson Backs Obama By ADAM NAGOURNEY and JEFF ZELENY
PORTLAND, Ore. — “I talked to Senator Clinton last night,” Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico said on Friday, describing the tense telephone call in which he informed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton that, despite two months of personal entreaties by her and her husband, he would be endorsing Senator Barack Obama for president.
“Let me tell you: we’ve had better conversations,” Mr. Richardson said.
The decision by Mr. Richardson, who ended his own presidential campaign on Jan. 10, to support Mr. Obama was a belt of bad news for Mrs. Clinton. It was a stinging rejection of her candidacy by a man who had served in two senior positions in President Bill Clinton’s administration, and who is one of the nation’s most prominent elected Hispanics. Mr. Richardson came back from vacation to announce his endorsement at a moment when Mrs. Clinton’s hopes of winning the Democratic nomination seem to be dimming.
But potentially more troublesome for Mrs. Clinton was what Mr. Richardson said in announcing his decision. He criticized the tenor of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign. He praised Mr. Obama for the speech he gave in response to the furor over racially incendiary remarks delivered by Mr. Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.
And he came close to doing what Mrs. Clinton’s advisers have increasingly feared some big-name Democrat would do as the battle for the nomination drags on: Urge Mrs. Clinton to step aside in the interest of party unity. ....
... The reaction of some of Mr. Clinton’s allies suggests that might have been a wise decision. “An act of betrayal,” said James Carville, an adviser to Mrs. Clinton and a friend of Mr. Clinton.
“Mr. Richardson’s endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic,” Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.
Mr. Richardson said he called Mrs. Clinton late on Thursday to inform her that he would be appearing with Mr. Obama on Friday to lend his support.
“It was cordial, but a little heated,” Mr. Richardson said in an interview.
Mrs. Clinton had no public schedule on Friday, and spent the day at her home in Chappaqua, N.Y. Her chief strategist, Mark Penn, played down the importance of the Richardson endorsement, suggesting that the time “when it could have been effective has long since passed.”
full article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/pol...
There's this quaint, interesting phenomenon that occurs at myDD. A Clinton supporter drafts a diary that goes on and on with anal obsessiveness regarding news about Obama's connection with Rezko or Rev. Wright. Because these stories are artificially inflated by the 24 hour news cycle fixation on petit details in the absence of real news events, the myDD diaries are reams of purple prose, related in breathless tones, about essentially nothing that hasn't been otherwise examined, explained, and discarded as trivial.
Then an amen corner of Clinton acolytes go to work recommending the diary, thereafter adding their comments that ernestly parrot the diary points. It happens with astonishing regularity, and its commonly the same, usual suspects involved in this handiwork. The comments are replete with indignant protestations that they could never vote for Obama before McCain and so on, all of which help demonstrate how little these individuals, in fact, adhere to the foundation of principles that have people like Howard Dean working for a Democratic victory in November. In other words, readers are treated like idiots.
NAFTA and Hillary Clinton's credibility problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFuA0z4kK...
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Clinton Trumpeted NAFTA In 2002 DLC Speech by David Sirota: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-siro...
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Hope In the Time of NAFTA
Reading articles about Hillary Clinton attacking NAFTA can lead you to believe The Onion has taken over America's news bureaus.
Clinton spent the last 10 years repeatedly praising the trade deal in speeches, most recently calling the job-killing accord "good for New York and America." ... http://www.creators.com/opinion/david-si...
Paul Rogat Loeb: Obama & Clinton: Who's More Likely to Confront Global Warming? http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24069...
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Paul Rogat Loeb: How Much Damage Will Clinton Do Before She Folds?
...she [Clinton] could cost the Democrats the election by forcing Obama to spend his time responding to an endless succession of petty attacks, and by giving the Republicans ready-made talking points, like Hillary's comment that only "one of us is ready to be commander in chief."
The potential damage is magnified if you count Clinton's surrogates. At the Youngstown, Ohio rally following Clinton's Wisconsin defeat, International Association of Machinists President Tom Buffenbarger called Obama supporters "latte-drinking, Prius-driving, Birkenstock-wearing, trust fund babies." That's despicable rhetoric, echoing the worst Limbaugh/Fox myths about limousine liberals, while it dismisses the majority of union members who just backed Obama in the Wisconsin and Virginia primaries, or the members of unions like SEIU, The Teamsters, and the United Food and Commercial Workers, who just endorsed him. It also happens to totally steal its language from the sleazy "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading" anti-Howard Dean ads of the right-wing Club For Growth, that helped give us the disastrous candidacy of John Kerry.
If repeated enough, though, those myths have the potential to stick. Clinton supporters have just created a new "527" political committee, which while technically independent and issue-oriented, is explicitly designed to allow Hillary supporters to evade the standard $2300 donation limits. The group aims to get contributions of $100,000 or more from as many as 100 Hillary donors, so they can pour $10 million in ads into the next round of critical races. Whether or not this is legal, and that's arguable, no other candidate has done anything remotely similar in this election. And since the ads have no checks of accountability, they'll be as nasty as their backers decide. ... full article:
http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/23962...
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environmentally blue
Sun, 03/23/0
It's Mrs. Rowe. And it will be 25 years this coming June.
My hubby and I were born and raised in Anderson, Indiana. We still have lots and lots of family and friends who live there.
Have you ever visited Indiana? Our State Parks and rivers are very beautiful.
Mounds State Park: http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/propertie...
http://www.andersontownpowwow.org/
http://photos.placesphotographed.com/v/i...+014.jpg.html?g2_GALLERYSID=9dc3a7443e930306d7762bbb060d85ef
Thomas R. McMahan Riverwalk (White River Anderson, IN)
http://photos.placesphotographed.com/v/i...
http://www.cityofanderson.com/documents/...
Obama playing well in Indiana by Barry Welsh: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/12/...
Honor from Edwards group.by Barry Welsh
Wed Feb 27, 2008
Monday night, the Edwards Evolution Next Revolution group, formerly know as Edwards Evening News Roundup, the group of Edwards supporters that showed such heart and passion in support of John Edwards, endorsed our campaign here in Indiana and the campaigns of Gilda Reed and Larry Kissell. ... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/27/...
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environmentally blue
Sun, 03/23/08
Now it's Chair Rowe.
I'm a Failed Christian
I dont go to church
I smoke and I drink
and I lie and I curse
it never got to me
your sermon and all
you talked and talked
about nothing at all
I'm a Failed Christian
Failed Christian
I've got two recollections
taking the collections
and tears when the choir
sang in harmony
It scared me half to death
I swore as I left
with a inside pocket full
of change and memories
I'm a Failed Christian
Failed Christian
I'm a Failed Christian
I've got my own church
I pray with my soul
to this great universe
all over the world
the bloods on their hands
religious instruction
I can't understand
im a Failed Christian,
Failed Christian
I'm going to meet my maker
a firm beleiver
of spirit in music
theres a prayer in a song
I'm a Failed Christian
amd if I'm go under
them you're coming with me
that much I can't tell
I'm a Failed Christian
Failed Christian
I'm a Failed Christian
I dont go to church
I smoke and I drink
and I lie and I curse
The beast in me
Is caged by frail and fragile bonds
Restless by day
And by night, rants and rages at the stars
God help, the beast in me
The beast in me
Has had to learn to live with pain
And how to shelter from the rain
And in the twinkling of an eye
Might have to be restrained
God help the beast in me
Sometimes
It tries to kid me that it's just a teddy bear
Or even somehow managed
To vanish in the air
And that is when I must beware
Of the beast in me
That everybody knows
They've seen him out dressed in my clothes
Patently unclear
If it's New York or New Year
God help the beast in me
The beast in me
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Bob (NJ for Democracy)
Sun, 03/23/08
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Re FRED from Ashland #19:
The reason Israel embargoed Gaza had little to do with who the Palestinians voted for. It had everything to do with the constant violence in Gaza...
#29:
It isn't true that Gentiles are excluded from attaining Israeli citizenship. Many already have....
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I think your information is false, or at least outdated. That's not what Cook says and he lives there. The belief that non-Jews can simply apply for citizenship is a myth. Just two weeks ago there was an article in the NY Times about how hard it was for Jews in America (especially non-orthodox) to prove they were Jews, when they try to immigrate.
Palestinian citizens are not allowed in police or military service. They spin this as a "benefit"
They are 1/5 of the population but have only one rep in Knesset.
Their land is always selected for confiscation "for military purposes."
The great fear is that Palestinians will "out populate" Jews.
A new law prevents Israeli citizens from bringing into Israel a Palestinian spouse. Israeli human rights groups call is rascist.
Before that law, Cook says, "naturalisation through marriage offered the one and only legal route to Jewish citizenship." He never mentions any five-year route in his book.
35.
audrey.nc
Mon, 03/24/08
Phil Donahue said that we don't hear from the "no war Jews" because of the media. I figure it's like hearing nothing but Cheney's version of America. What's the point of arguing what we can't verify?
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There is plenty of unbiased open coverage of Israel in Europe. It is only the American MSM with the filters.
The war right wing is killing Israel too. The only reason they still talk about a two-state solution is because behind the scenes the right talks about deporting the Palentinian citizens as a trade-off for removing the settlement from the WB. A extremely painful transition for the Arab citizens and the settlers, not to mention for Pat Robertson, John Haggee, and CUFI who all believe the WB is Samaria and Judea, as embedded in scripture.
It is an obvious fact that Hillary is the one on the offensive in this campaign, especially when it comes to inventing issues like "plagarism" and other insidious innuendos. Obama talks by far more about the issues, and beating Bush III, and seldom about Hillary, except to response to her garbage attacks.
There's 2 threads going on... just let the other folks know :-)
Still have a touch of the flu but doing a-ok and will travel in a couple days.
environmentally blue ~ while respecting your views on HC, my opinion is the 'real' person they see is liked less and less.
12:08 am est
HI/bye Paine :-) Sweet ones.
12:10 am est
Just for a change of pace - this is the You Tube winner.
http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/03/...
Susan, I've looked and looked for the join dates of this "barrage" of Hill lovers, and can't find them. Where the heck does one?
I judge Hillary Clinton - not by the expression on her face - but by her own words, by the words of her greatest ally and supporter - her husband, and by the contributor list of those who fund her campaign.
When I look at the fact that Barack Obama has surpassed the one million mark of individual contributors and the small average donation of those contributors - I am reminded over and over of the closeness I felt then ( and continue to feel ) for Howard Dean because I was ( and am ) Howard Dean's special interest.
Likewise - I am Barack Obama's special interest.
12:33 a.m. Monday EDT.
And, as always, . . . . . . .
Title IX Awards Raise Colleges' Bias Liability Run
By Viv Bernstein WeNews correspondent
A string of jury awards in Title IX cases at Fresno State, part of California's state university system, should serve as a warning sign for other schools. But women's sports advocates say the legal battle is far from over, as a case in Florida shows. ...lots more girl talk: http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm?a...
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Front Page article Fresno Bee
Home fans don't see Fresno State on TV
Reason unclear, but most were shown other game.
By Jeff Davis / The Fresno Bee
03/22/08
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Most viewers tuning in to watch Fresno State in the Women's NCAA Tournament on Saturday got another basketball game instead. ... full article: http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/47918...
It seems to me that it's almost as hard to find rock-hard Hillary Clinton supporters as it is to find those phantom "Hillary Clinton bashers" in the media which she talks about ad nauseum.
If she would stop looking so hard for enemies, maybe she could find a few more friends.
LOL, puddle.
::waving:: David :-)I know one HC supporter, that's it.
12:41 am est
puddle
Search on the DFA-link under people here: http://www.dfalink.com/search_profiles.p...
Enter the person last name.
Environmentally blue.....
I your thing is Corporate owned gov't. DLC big money campaigns in 15 states instead of all states participating, and you supported Hillarys efforts to take down Howard Dean, well then I just don't know where you've been or what you are doing here.
person s/b person's
LOL, puddle.
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No lol! They keep showing up, spitting this stuff out, and are never heard from again. . . .
Sort of like counterfeit money. . . .
Heard on Sunday news program that according to a poll 20% of Obama supporters would vote for McCain if Hillary ran, whereas almost all Hillary supporters would vote for Obama. That should tell you which side the venom is coming from.
Aha - I misunderstood your post about finding signup dates as you looking for go see HC dates, which would be LOL ;-)
howdy sunlight, a beautiful color blue dress. Incredible it is!
1:01 am est
No doubt Oler will show up next with a glowing endorsement for Senator Clinton - then revert to Junior John McCain during the general election cycle.
I once attended a Junior Achievement seminar that sounded much like the header of this thread - except that the Junior Achievement testimonies sounded more spontaneous.
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America our country is down at the foot of the mountain and we need someone that has the experience and is ready, willing, and able to bring America back up to be polished like gold.
.................bring America back up to be polished like gold"
I'm sorry, I don't get it,
experience, being ready, willing, and able brings America back to be polished like gold?
Since when has America ever been polished like gold?
America is down at the foot of the mountain?
Give me a break.
America is our country?
Who are we?
Heard on Sunday news program that according to a poll 20% of Obama supporters would vote for McCain if Hillary ran, whereas almost all Hillary supporters would vote for Obama. That should tell you which side the venom is coming from.
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Among Obama supporters, 20 percent said they would vote for Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the Republican nominee, if Clinton beats their candidate for the nomination. Among Clinton supporters, 19 percent said they would support McCain in November if Obama is the Democratic nominee.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?...
Did the poll mention how many of Obama's supporters wouldn't vote for either McCain or the Clintons?
Thanks, puddle, I must have heard it wrong, but could have sworn, in fact the person making the comment reinforced that impression. Maybe they got it wrong.
FRED from Ashland #32:
What Israeli immigration is checking for is to see who is "sufficiently Jewish" (a silly concept, IMO) to get immediate citizenship. Those who don't pass muster can immigrate, but they don't get their citizenship immediately. I know people who have gone through this. The problem is the religious parties (mostly Shas and NRP) always have control over immigration. It's the price they insist on for joining the governing coalition.
Remember that Israel isn't a Jeffersonian democracy, nor do they pretend to be. And their fears of being out-populated by Palestinians is a real one because the Palestinians have a very high birth rate. If for no other reason, this is why Israel has to let go of the West Bank. They can't absorb all those people as citizens and they can't hold the territory indefinitely without letting the residents become citizens.
Contrast this with countries like Saudi Arabia, where non-Muslims aren't even allowed to set foot on the soil, or Jordan, where selling real estate to a Jew is a capital offense. (Though nobody has ever been prosecuted for it.)
But look at it another way: there are about 250 milion Arabs in 21 countries of 8.4 milion square miles (more than twice the size of the US), all of which have some measure of Islamic law, and hundreds of millions of others who live in non-Arab Islamic countries around the world. So if someone wants to live under Islamic law, there's a lot to choose from. But if you want to live under Jewish law, you have only 1 country of about 7 million people in 13 thousand square miles (smaller than my home state). IOW, Israel is about 0.15% the size of the Arab lands, so let's give 'em a break if they want to control immigration.
America is almost unique among non-Communist countries to completely separate church from state. Even western countries we consider to be prime democracies, like Britain, Germany, Sweden, Ireland, et al, have some measure of official religion. So labeling Israel as non-democratic because they have certain religious requirements isn't fair. So if that's the measure of what it is to be a democracy, then you can count the world's democracies on one hand.
I've seen quite the opposite in my conversations with supporters for both candidates.
Nite & ♥'s to all
Kindness is free!
1:43 am est
Heard on Sunday news program that according to a poll 20% of Obama supporters would vote for McCain if Hillary ran, whereas almost all Hillary supporters would vote for Obama. That should tell you which side the venom is coming from.
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I've seen quite the opposite in my conversations with supporters for both candidates.
In fact - in my reaching out to people to unite once we have a candidate - I haven't talked to one Obama supporter who would vote for McCain under any circumstances.
I have just removed the RSS feed for BFA from the Democracy for Missouri website, until they fix this issue of posting by what amounts to troll material on the front page...willy nilly.
DFA is supposedly attempting to cool the rhetoric between the Obama and Clinton camps, yet is posting highly partisan and snarky articles on BFA.
I for one am running to be an Obama National Delegate, and find the anti Obama and Pro Hillary stuff on BFA is potentially driving away votes in my Cong District election (Thursday). I am sure there are a few Hillary true believers who are DFA members, also in that position.
I have written the DFA leadership about this. Hopefully some kind of fix can be made.
BTW, the posts DO NOT occur automatically, as someone posted to me here yesterday. A DFA staff person promotes everything that gets on the front page. This info I received from Charles Chamberlain.
Lets hope that BFA can come to reflect more the values and platform of DFA! (And I can restore the feed to our Missouri site)
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Bob (NJ for Democracy)
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thanks for your explanation, but from what I've read there is no comparison between modern European "official" religions and the institutional religious requirements in Israel, which is closer to the Arab countries, as you pointed out.
Nice try.
I am not saying Christians were/are not like Jews in Israel, but those days are mostly over. Jews should have a portion of the land to be a religious State, like the Vatican in Rome, but what they have now resembles the Holy Roman empire than a Democracy in modern American terms.
I don't believe "a country of all its citizens" is code for the destruction of Israel. I don't see how trying to keep the State religiously pure will ever contribute to its preservation.
The Roman empire grew because they allowed people in their domain to keep their own religions and culture, but they taxed them.
If Israel were truly democratic from the beginning of Zionism onward, did not create an Iron Wall, and had accepted all religions and cultures within its borders, and gave everyone the same civil rights and treatment as Jews get, Israel would probably be a great ME empire by now, which would include Sinai, Lebanon, and Jordan, maybe Syria too. It would be a United States.
The mentality that created present day Israel will never have peace and will never grow to be a great country.
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David A. Stevenson
Mon, 03/24/08
I've seen quite the opposite in my conversations with supporters for both candidates.
In fact - in my reaching out to people to unite once we have a candidate - I haven't talked to one Obama supporter who would vote for McCain under any circumstances.
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That's what my instinct tell me. The poll puddle pointed out was for Pennsylvania only.
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Bob (NJ for Democracy)
Mon, 03/24/08
Remember that Israel isn't a Jeffersonian democracy, nor do they pretend to be. And their fears of being out-populated by Palestinians is a real one because the Palestinians have a very high birth rate.
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History has shown again and again that when you oppress people they populate, when they gain affluence they plan their parenthood and limit children.
Even in exodus it is written, that the greater Pharoa oppressed them, the greater their numbers grew...
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Bob (NJ for Democracy)
Mon, 03/24/08
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THANK YOU!!!!
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William Monroe
Mon, 03/24/08
I wonder how many recommendations votes this post actually received. It was first promoted on Friday evening for today @6pm and the time was changed on Saturday to 11pm.
bring America back up to be polished like gold"
I'm sorry, I don't get it,
experience, being ready, willing, and able brings America back to be polished like gold?
Since when has America ever been polished like gold?
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Maybe she means Hill is like an old rag?
My hubby laughed out loud at this one in the paper today. I don't normally read the sports pages.
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Vasectomy clinic gets in on bracket racket By Andy Dworkin
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The Oregon Urology Institute is running a college-basketball-themed vasectomy promotion, urging men to "lower your seed for the tournament."
"When March Madness approaches you need an excuse ... to stay at home in front of the big screen," says the radio ad. "Get your vasectomy at Oregon Urology Institute the day before the tournament starts. ...full article: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/he...
Here you go, Bob NY Times magazine
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/magazi...
March 2, 2008
How Do You Prove You’re a Jew?
By GERSHOM GORENBERG
One day last fall, a young Israeli woman named Sharon went with her fiancé to the Tel Aviv Rabbinate to register to marry. They are not religious, but there is no civil marriage in Israel...
...This stereotypical biography did not help her any more at the rabbinate than the line on her birth certificate listing her nationality as Jewish. Proving you are Jewish to Israel’s state rabbinate can be difficult, it turns out, especially if you came to Israel from the United States — or, as in Sharon’s case, if your mother did...
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William Monroe
Mon, 03/24/08
Thank you. I wrote too.
I'm finished. going nite nite or reading Obama's book
To Whom it May Concern:
Several days ago, s/o asked where I live and Tom went into my file and posted the town for the whole world to see. THIS IS FOR DFA MEMBERS ONLY. I thought BO supporters were supposed to have good sense and judgment. You own me an apology, Tom.
And now s/o has done the same with envir.blue. This is the kind of insensitive and intrusive stuff that should be stopped immediately.
HQ, please remove those posts that don't respect our privacy.
Where I live, the BO worship and HC bashing is not happening. People don't know who to vote for becuz "we don't have good choices."
One man said he was gonna flip a coin. Maybe he was joking.
Now goodbye again. What a pity that more respect can't be given to Hillary supporters. I wonder how you all would feel if the shoe were on the other foot?
seashell :-)
A profile page at the DFA-Link is public and can be edited by it's owner for privacy. A link profile is similar to myspace or facebook.
seashell :-)
You edit your link profile at the right side of the your profile page. Click on privacy.
of the your s/b of your
Hope all who celebrate had a nice Easter!
Seashell I think this sentence is unnecessary to make your point about the posting of personal information on the blog:
"I thought BO supporters were supposed to have good sense and judgment."
By the way, if anyone who reads this blog wanted to learn where any of us live, all they have to do is sign up for DFA Link and look all they want. "EB" posted her FULL name instead of a handle like yours. One can google Stephanie Salter and find all kinds of stuff.
I don't know how many seashells we'd find in your town though - how do you think this was an invasion of your privacy when you posted your own website, complete with a picture of you and your first name here only a week or so ago?
Anyway, my points are - it doesn't matter who one supports in this election when it comes to doing something perceived as an invasion of privacy when actually there is no privacy that cannot be simply "invaded" by signing up for DFA link.
It has NOTHING to do with disrespect of Hillary supporters (are you one?) That's just silly and illogical.
Susan, thanks for the reminder about "privacy". I forgot about that. Don't sign up for sites unless you know how they work - that's the best way to remain "private" - if that is what the beef is.
Been to Terre Haute many times - heart of red Indiana. No wonder they love Hillary there so much.
Night bloggie
"politics ain't beanbag" the Carville school
The real shame is the mean-spirited way the Clintons and their political operatives have conducted Hillary's entire campaign. Their tired old dirty-tricks and divisive tactics are very obvious to those who have been following their insider top down strategy. Top down and insider doesn't work with the 50 state strategy. The 50 state strategy was designed to build and unify the party from the grassroots up. The Clintons just simply made a mistake in judgement. Sadly, they have miss taken a wonderful opportunity for change. Change has always been Gov. Dean's message. Progress and change go hand in hand. The playbook has always been open and available to all participants.
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Denise
Mon, 03/24/08
Not my friends and relatives. A lot of them left the party because of NAFTA and BC's immorality. They didn't think much of HC's book "It Takes A Village". A lot of them do not like Evan Bayh. He's just not is Dad.
good morning all! well, at least this thread was pro-Hillary rather than anti-Obama. must be they're feeling desperate, if they're bothering to come here, to this broken little blog. what Hillary's supporters can't seem to get thru their heads is that we DO know Hillary - we've been following her very closely for years now and that it's her own actions as much as the hope of Obama that has driven many of us away from her, that warn us that she and the folks she would bring to the WH would be bad for the country.
environmrntally blue - most of us here at BFA support Howard Dean's 50 state strategy. Hillary & Company have been tryingto undermine that strategy and doing the same old 'ignore half the country and go for that handful of states' thingy that they've been losing elections with for years now. Hillary doesn't think the states she lost 'count', they weren't 'part of her game plan'. well that sounds an awful lot like what we've had from George Bush when it comes to 'presidentin' - pander to his base and to heck with the rest of the country.
I guess the thing that irritates me most is that Hillary is getting a pass that NONE of the other candidates would have gotten - if she were in Obama's shoes right now, she would have been crowned the winner weeks ago and Obama would be off the campaign trail and back in the Senate. Hillary ghas gotten just enough life support from the corpmediawhores who want to keep this thing going long after the truth has surfaced. short of kneecapping Obama, she has already lost the election - she can't 'win' it, she can only advance by default. and she's ready and willing to 'default' him, regardless the fallout to the party.
Hillary, for all the good she may have done over the years, has made this bed herself. she decided HOW to run her campaign, so now she has to live with it. I thnk her biggest mistake was underestimating the intelligence of the average American these days. oh and she forgot that we can get to the facts, the history of her own words, so much easier now with the internet. I've lost all trust and respect for HRC - and it wasn't Obama who led me to this, it was HRC herself.
...As bean bag games are not apt to cause injury or insult, they are referenced in the famous aphorism by the Irish-American politico Finley Peter Dunne that "Politics ain't bean bag." ...from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bean_bag
Finley Peter Dunne (July 10, 1867–April 24, 1936) was a Chicago-based U.S. author, writer and humorist. He published Mr. Dooley in Peace and War, a collection of his nationally syndicated Mr. Dooley sketches, in 1898. The fictional Mr. Dooley expounded upon political and social issues of the day from his South Side Chicago Irish pub and he spoke with the thick verbiage and accent of an Irish immigrant. Dunne's sly humor and political acumen won the support of President Theodore Roosevelt, a frequent target of Mr. Dooley's barbs.Indeed Dunne's sketches became so popular and such a litmus test of public opinion that they were read each week at White House cabinet meetings. ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finley_Pete...
...Mr. Dooley was the most popular figure in American journalism. From this point until World War I, Dunne's gadfly mind ranged over the spectrum of newsworthy events and characters, both national and international: from Teddy Roosevelt's health fads to Andrew Carnegie's passion for libraries; from the invariable silliness of politics to society doings at Newport; from the Boer and Boxer Rebellions abroad to the so-called Negro, Indian, and immigration problems in the United States.
Mr. Dooley's perspective was consistently skeptical and critical. The salutary effect of most pieces was the exposure of affectation and hypocrisy through undercutting humor and common sense. The most frequently quoted Dooleyisms indicate this thrust. Teddy Roosevelt's egocentric account of the Rough Riders is retitled, "Alone in Cuba." The rationale of American imperialists becomes "Hands acrost th' sea an' into somewan else's pocket." High Court solemnity is undercut with a memorable phrase: "America follows th' flag, but th' Supreme Court follows th' illiction returns." A fanatic is defined as "a man that does what he thinks th' Lord wud do if He knew th' facts iv th' case." Although he joined Ida Tarbell and Lincoln Steffens in taking over the American Magazine in 1906, Dunne was not himself a progressive reformer. He viewed the world as irrevocably fallen and unimprovable, and many Dooley pieces reflect their author's tendency toward fatalism. .... http://college.hmco.com/english/lauter/h...
sea, re: Now goodbye again. What a pity that more respect can't be given to Hillary supporters. I wonder how you all would feel if the shoe were on the other foot?
personally I have tried to be respectful to her supporters, but if the shoe were on the other foot, miss inevitability would have been thought to have 'sealed the deal' weeks ago and the primary would be over. and like Hillary herself, her supporters should gain our respect, not demand it. they aren't 'entitled' to our respect.
as for the personal information on the blog, there's a big difference from this, imo, than posting an adress or phone or working email addy that was NOT included in a person's profile.
PEOPLE IF YOU DON'T WANT THE TOWN YOU LIVE IN KNOWN, DON'T INCLUDE IT IN YOUR PROFILE. THIS IS THE INTERNET AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU SHOULD PERHAPS TAKE A FEW VERY IMPORTANT LESSONS ON PRIVACY & THE NET BEFORE USING IT! YOU SHOULD READ THE TERMS OF USE AND PRIVACY INFORMATION FOR EVERY SITE YOU REGISTER WITH.
Man, the Hillary faction is out in force on the BFA huh? Driving by to mention this headline caught my eye this morning
Cheney says Hamas torpedoes peace
By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
16 minutes ago
JERUSALEM - Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that Hamas, with support from Syria and Iran, is trying to "torpedo" peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel.
Meeting reporters after having breakfast with the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Cheney said, "It is clearly a difficult situation, in part, because I think it's true, there's evidence that, Hamas is supported by Iran and Syria and that they're doing everything they can to torpedo the peace process."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080324/ap_o...
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and reminded me to post a link to this article in Vanity Fair
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/featu...
THE MIDDLE EAST
The Gaza Bombshell
After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current U.S. officials, David Rose reveals how President Bush, Condoleezza Rice, and Deputy National-Security Adviser Elliott Abrams backed an armed force under Fatah strongman Muhammad Dahlan, touching off a bloody civil war in Gaza and leaving Hamas stronger than ever.
by DAVID ROSE April 2008
While Democrats across the country are anguished about the bitter fight for their presidential nomination, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid doesn't appear to be losing any sleep over it.
Asked about it last week, Reid said he remains convinced the nominee will be decided well before the August national convention. He wore a serene and mysterious smile.
But Reid isn't one for lengthy explanations. The conversation went like this:
Question: Do you still think the Democratic race can be resolved before the convention?
Reid: Easy
Q: How is that?
Reid: It will be done.
Q: It just will?
Reid: Yep.
Q: Magically?
Reid: No, it will be done. I had a conversation with Governor Dean (Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean) today. Things are being done.
That's all the Nevada Democrat would say about it.
...The DNC authorized only Nevada, Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina to hold nominating contests before that date. Those four states teamed up to demand successfully that the Democratic candidates not campaign in the two renegade states.
The punishment was intended to be symbolic, on the assumption that a nominee would be decided early and delegate counts wouldn't matter.
That has turned out to be a bad assumption. Now Hillary Clinton, who won both states and trails in the delegate count, says Michigan and Florida shouldn't be left out, even though Barack Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan.
Both states came to the conclusion last week they couldn't hold new primaries.
"Michigan and Florida wouldn't play by the rules," Reid said. "They're not my rules. They're not the caucus' rules. They're DNC rules. They broke the rules."
Adding delegates for those states, he noted, would alter the number of delegates needed to get the nomination, currently 2,025. It wasn't crystal clear, but Reid seemed to suggest that delegations from those states should get to attend the convention, but not vote.
"Michigan and Florida delegates are going to be seated. They're going to be a part of the convention," he said. "It's a question of whether anything can be worked out to change this prior to the 2,025.
"They're the ones causing all the problems. No one else did. ...
Good morning, BFA!
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Bob from NJ ... from your comment upthread (enjoy your comments generally, btw):
"... Contrast this with countries like Saudi Arabia, where non-Muslims aren't even allowed to set foot on the soil, ..."
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I must tell you that, while I am no apologist for Saudia Arabia's policies, this is patently not a true statement.
In my own case, I, a female non-Muslim with a distinctively Jewish first name, spent several days there and met with Government officials during my stay. There were some restrictions on my movements (I had to be accompanied everywhere) and dress while in Riyadh, but there were none at all while I was out in the desert.
Probably the most inconvenient moment was needing the *loo* while visiting one of the Ministries. There are no separate facilities for women.
But we managed. Where there's a will and all that.
Hillary Clinton Shuns Fox Debates, But Pockets Murdochs' Money ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/07/16...
This one is for all those who have enjoyed the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency series ...
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On the trail of Mma RamotsweThe TV adaptation of the No 1 Ladies' Detective Agency series hits our screens tonight. Bob Maddams, a film-maker working in Africa, follows in Precious Ramotswe's footsteps around Gaborone before heading off to investigate the real Botswana
Bob Maddams
The Observer, Sunday March 23 2008
It wasn't your typical stake-out. We had parked right outside the suspect's house, which stood in a wide tree-lined street in a quiet residential part of Gaborone, Botswana's capital. 'OK,' whispered Tim, 'this is the place.'
But Tim Race is no private eye. He's the boss of Africa Insight, which runs the official 'No 1 Ladies' Detective Agency' Tour. 'You don't need to be an expert on the whole series of books,' he reassured me. 'So long as you've at least read the first one you'll get a lot out of it.'
However, those who sign up for the tour often have more than a passing acquaintance with the adventures of Mma Ramotswe, Mr JLB Matekoni, Mma Makutsi and the rest. 'If you don't get the details absolutely right, they're very quick to correct you,' he said. 'The Americans are the worst,' he added as an afterthought.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2008/ma...
Good morning, everybody
Well, the Richardson has made it over Easter weekend. Probably would have been much less significant if the Clinton gang hadn't tried to trash him by calling him a Judas. But, perhaps that's the new plan--get him into the VP slot so they'll have one of their own on the inside. You think only a totally amoral crew would foment such a plan? Well?
Actually, they probably wouldn't consider it amoral since "moral" has taken on a new meaning--anything that a superior authority commands. I suppose that's sort of the companion of the automaticity of the "free market"--everything just sort of happens on its own, orders get carried out as if by automatons, just as if they were robots on remote control. Those too. As long as somebody gives an order, all actions are moral.
That's how come we have predators circling over Iraq and dispatching individual insurgents with hellfire missiles.
I don't know whether anyone has been following this story, which presents some troublesome issues.
This story does not seem to contain one fact that was mentioned by Ms. Olson's lawyer in another story (from where I cannot recall) that the parole board had actually considered ... and rejected ... the additional year in the circumstances, This casts a different light on the story.
So, I am quite sceptical of the story in most headlines about an *administrative error.* It was citizen pressure, no less, to countermand the decision of the parole board. Why they can't just tell the truth is beyond me.
If there were only 1/10 the outcry about the crimes of putzCo ... I guess that I will have to dream on.
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After five days of freedom, 1970s terrorist is sent back to prison
New twist in Sarah Jane Olson saga after protests
Administrative error blamed for early release
Ewen MacAskill in Washington
The Guardian, Monday March 24 2008
A member of a 1970s violent US radical group, Sara Jane Olson, was back in custody in California yesterday after only five days of freedom, as protests by Los Angeles police forced the prison department to reverse its decision to free her. The department claimed there had been "an administrative error".
The decision to send her back to prison was the latest chapter in the extraordinary life of Olson, a member of the anti-establishment Symbionese Liberation Army that kidnapped the heiress Patty Hearst and was involved in planting pipe-bombs under Los Angeles police cars in 1975. The bombs, which failed to detonate, were in retaliation for the deaths of six SLA members in a gun battle with the Los Angeles police the previous year.
Olson was released last Monday after serving six years of a 12-year sentence. The prison department did not make the decision public at first and it was not reported by the media until Friday. An organisation representing police officers led the subsequent outcry, and it was joined by the family of a woman murdered by another SLA member during a bank robbery in the Sacramento area - a crime Olson in 2003 had pleaded guilty of involvement in.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar...
In another literary vein ...
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Island made famous by Dumas to open for 3,000 visitors
John Hooper in Rome
The Guardian, Monday March 24 2008
One of the world's most fabled yet least accessible spots is to be opened to the public for the first time in decades.
Some 3,000 visitors a year are to be allowed onto Montecristo, the island that lies off Tuscany and at the heart of Alexandre Dumas's chronicle of injustice and revenge, The Count of Monte Cristo
The book revolves around a treasure supposedly hidden on the island by an Italian cardinal. After escaping from a jail in which he has been unjustly imprisoned, the book's hero Edmond Dantes finds a chest divided into three compartments in a cave within a cave.
The first section contains gold coins; the second, gold bars; and in the third "handfuls of diamonds, pearls, and rubies, which, as they fell on one another, sounded like hail against glass".
Modern visitors will discover the island does hide treasure, but of a different sort. Montecristo, the loneliest spot in the Tuscan archipelago, south of Elba, has never had a stable human population, so its animal and plant life have been left to flourish undisturbed.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar...
Speaking of endangered species ... there may soon be none left.
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US authority failing to list endangered species
Ewen MacAskill in Washington
The Guardian, Monday March 24 2008
Bald eagles, wolves, snails, butterflies and many other species native to the US have long been at risk. Many have made it on to the country's endangered species list, but not under the Bush administration over the last two years.
Conservation groups claim that Bush appointees have been deliberately making it harder to designate animals and plants as endangered, and have launched a series of lawsuits. Administration officials admit that there are about 280 species waiting to be added to the list.
George Bush's father designated 231 species as endangered or threatened in his single term. In Bill Clinton's eight years 521 species were designated as endangered. Bush has designated 59 in seven years, and none in the last two since Dirk Kempthorne became secretary of the interior, the department responsible.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/20...
This news should worry all of us.
Unfortunately, there is so much that we should be worrying about.
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Economy poised on knife edge
Justin McCurry in Tokyo
The Guardian, Monday March 24 2008
Masaaki Shirakawa, the Bank of Japan's acting governor, has warned that the country's economy faces an uncertain future. It comes at the end of a week in which the Nikkei share index sank to its lowest level for almost three years.
"To deal appropriately with the turmoil in international financial markets is the most important task," Shirakawa said after his appointment on Thursday.
The acting governor, who took up the post after parliament failed to agree on a long-term appointment, responded cautiously to suggestions that he would follow the example of the US Federal Reserve and cut interest rates.
"When the economy changes, it changes very quickly in both directions," he said. "We shouldn't have any preconceptions on future monetary policy."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/...
Following the bad economic news, here are some answers from Joseph Stiglitz.
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Joseph Stiglitz: You Ask The Questions
The Nobel Prize-winning economist answers your questions, such as 'Are we in the worst financial crisis since the war?' and 'Can we solve it?'
Monday, 24 March 2008
[lots of questions and lots of answers]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people...
One step forward, but looking like two steps back again, at least momentarily.
prick may have gotten his handshake with Abbas, but the Yemenis actually got a deal.
I personally am glad to see Arab countries taking more active responsibility and positive engagement in this area. There is indeed plenty of blame to go around, but US policy generally exacerbates things for everyone.
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Hamas and Fatah agree to hold talks
By Eric Silver in Jerusalem
Monday, 24 March 2008
The rival Palestinian factions Hamas and Fatah yesterday signed up to a Yemeni-brokered deal to negotiate a reconciliation, but hours after the signing an apparent dispute broke out over just what was included in the agreement.
Hostilities between the two groups boiled over last June when Hamas seized control of Gaza, routing forces loyal to the Palestinian President and Fatah leader, Mahmoud Abbas, in a week of deadly street battles.
Yemen is the latest country to try to revive talks between the two sides. The so-called Sanaa Declaration was signed after a week of wrangling by Fatah's parliamentary leader Azzam al-Ahmad and the Hamas No 2, Moussa Abu Marzuk.
"We, the representatives of Fatah and Hamas, agree to the Yemeni initiative as a framework to resume dialogue between the two movements to return the Palestinians' situation to what it was before the Gaza incidents," their joint declaration said.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...
Wouldn't this be wonderful, if true?
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Parkinson's: the breakthrough
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Monday, 24 March 2008
A potential cure for Parkinson's disease has come a significant step closer today with a study showing that it is possible to treat the degenerative brain disorder with cells derived from cloned embryos a development condemned by the Roman Catholic Church.
The research was carried out on laboratory mice but scientists believe the findings are proof that the techniques could be applied to humans suffering not just from Parkinson's, but a range of other incurable diseases.
Researchers have demonstrated the possibility of treating Parkinson's disease by transplanting laboratory-matured brain cells back into the individual who supplied the skin cells that were turned into cloned embryos a process known as therapeutic cloning.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc...
As Monica said, there is indeed a new thread ... and Tom has grabbed some great firsties.
Hoping that this will land at or near the end ...
http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24419...
Clinton's voting record in the US Senate is to the right of Feinstein. Clinton is DLC. The DLC is NOT a Progressive Democratic organization.
Bush lies, McCain lies and the Clintons lie. So what is the difference? Nothing really. Only the letter after their name.
The Clintons' supporters are welcome to grown another party. It's called Democracy. The Clintons' have helped to grow the Green Party for years. They also helped to grow the NO party. They may even want to join the Lieberman Party.
environmentally wrote "I hope you all will be supporting HIllary in the fall."
If she's the Democratic nominee, you can bet your last dime on it.
environmentally wrote "Obama does not have a Progressive policy or agenda and doesn't stand a chance in winning the GE, especially as more developments come to light."
This makes your support for Clinton nearly inexplicable since it widely recognized that you can hardly slip a sheet of paper between their respective positions on most issues.
Well, I'll willingly endanger my very existence to reveal my ZIP Code is 14626 and I have been represented by Sen. Clinton from her first day as a Senator.
Her record in the Senate has been dismal, despite being handed great committee assignments due to being Bill's wife and all. She has authored virtually no legislation of any note, has done next to nothing for NY State, and frankly, would never have won either election except she was blessed with weak opponents.
She's essentially sat around waiting to run for President on my dime, after carpetbagging in our state in the first place. We didn't like it when Bobby Kennedy did that and we don't like it any better this time.
Obama didn't do any campiagning in NY and still got about 40% of the vote here. That should tell you quite a bit.
Add that to her inability to keep her campaign on budget and the truly appalling way she and Bill (especially Bill) have been behaving and, well, all that nauseating claptrap about the praying for her and the mountain and all... well, pass the airsick bags.
-- volney
environmentally blue seems to have chosen her candidate before getting the facts. now she's doing a dance across a painted floor with two sheets of fly paper.
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susan rowe, thanks for the video composition of the bosnia sniper fire.
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'it's time to build a new corporate democracy,' THE WASHINGTON SPECTATOR, mar 15, 2008.....
*bob monks, in CORPOCRACY,
sorry..........
*bob monks, in CORPOCRACY, argues "that the core of modern robber baronage is the Business Roundtable, an association that restricts its membership to CEOs of major companies. It is possibly the most effective union in the country."
*in 1970, the average ceo earned 30 times as much as the average worker; in 2007-08, it is 300 times as much.
*"...10 percent of the shares of the top 200 companies has been set aside for executive compensation....a transfer of $1 trillion in 'the largest peacetime movement of wealth ever recorded.'"
*sen 'potty-face' joe, along with 15 co-sponsors, crafted a resolution, blocking the requirement that the cost of stock options be expensed.
*rep barney frank, who was successful, and SEN BARACK OBAMA, who was blocked by rethugs, pushed for 'a shareholders' bill of rights' for a say in executive compensation. here's a man who puts action behind his words.
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how about a new ad with clips of barack playing pick-up basketball? how about basketball grannies with obama? indiana would be a great place to run it.
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