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Just got through watching my weekly Michigan politics program in which the main topic was the possible re-do. Well, the Michigan newspaper talking heads royally dissed the national media for their coverage of the possible Michigan re-do.

They said the national media failed to listen to the Michigan media because if they would have, they would have reported it dead in the water last Tuesday. But, they pointed out, not one of the national media bothered to call to get the facts from Michigan.

So, I'm here to report, THERE WILL NOT BE A RE-DO IN MICHIGAN! Hope someone from the national media sees my post!

So Bill Clinton has shot his mouth off again and said how great it would be for the election to be between "two people who both love America", Hillary and McCain.

If "loving America" means aiding and abetting a cabal that wants to turn us into a nation of jackbooted imperialists, and/or purposing to go on that way for 100 years or more, then God save us from those who "love America".

Instead of slapping ourselves on the back and going on about how great we are, I suggest repentence would be more appropriate.

-- volney

Obama-Boxer '08

unpaid bills are really big news if true

In case you missed it....the Dem senate minority leader in Florida...on video actually being snarky about trying to keep the primary to follow party rules.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1926

 And I hope that FL and MI are over for sure...cause Hillary has been using them them as tools for her campaign.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1927

They are ripping Dean to shreds here in the Florida media.  It breaks my heart.  No one here cares about the truth.

3. Phil - Especially when you see who is owed the money - small business owners who I would bet really NEED that money.

mary vb 

I think I may have told this story before but one of our Hall of Fame former Governor candidates once said he didn't donate to campaigns because he had to save up to go around paying old bills after they failed (took that as his role).

He was a pretty wealthy man, but you could tell he was angry when he told me the story.

unpaid bills really hurt the party 

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my son emailed me some phone camera photo shots of Seattle from what he said was the top of the tallest buiding and one shot showed the space needle in a direction that had residential behind it in the distance, and the other direction had a sports venue with an open roof

can you help me out with directions?

Hi Folks,

Just finished watching Bill Moyers' interviewing Phil Donohue and a producer, cant' think of her name right now, of a documentary called, The Body of War about a young Iraq Vet who has returned and is crippled from the chest down.  The interview was insightful for a variety of reasons: the young vet Thomas is now an activist, has produced a music CD of music that has been part of his life since 9/11 and his enlisting to fight, as he thought, in Afghanistan to now.

It's not so much a sad and discouraging film as an examination of how we got into Iraq.  There's a particularly devastating part where the Congress is in session debating the war resolution. Senator Byrd is passionate in his opposition, addresses the C-SPAN viewing audience, warning them that their children will die in a misguided, short sighted, war, meanwhile the votes are being called, Senator Biden-aye, Senator Dodd-aye.  Therei's even a segment of Hillary Clinton arguing for the war resolution.

Phil Donohue asserts that the media is complicit, that when Bush ordered the cameras not to show the coffins returning, they complied.  He also says that the debate was orchestrated in Congress was superficial and people spoke from Bush's script: weapons of mass destruction, build up of army, ten years of Iraqi and Al Qaeda contact, etc.  You see the members of Congress reading from the script. It was also done three weeks before the Novemnber 2002 election on purpose.

If interested, you can go to PBS, Bill Moyers' Journal and find out where the movie will be shown.

One last thing, and probably I'll consider posting it tomorrow: The April Harpers has an essay called "Why I Pay Taxes" which is about as devastating a satire as any I've ever read.  He breaks down our taxes, for instance, $1000.00 buys so many bullets to kill on the average, so many Iraqis, Americans, etc.  Mark Twain's War Prayer and Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal where he advocates the starving Irish breed babies for food are of the same genre.  I had to put the article down.  It sickened me as no straight polemic could do. Good stuff out there raising an outcry of what we have faced in two illegal wars: Vietnam and Iraq, same lies, same sacrifice of our children, as the documentary movie, Body of War suggests, that we are treating people like toys, made to do whatever rich, important, and utterly irresponsible people want them to do.

Sorry for the typos.  They seem inevitable.  It's called walking and chewing gum at the same time.

I have platform planks coming out my ears tonight, I think one county or another touched on every issue anyone could think of.

one debate that had both sides was whether or not to reform No Child Left Behind or let it die

most were in agreement with each other

Pat

the debate clips from Congress on the eve of the war showed how right the opponents were

good show from Moyers as usual

Obama ate at our friend's pizza place today. what a hoot.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

Healthful pizza. LOL

Phil - Safeco Field (baseball) is the open sports venue. Bank One Tower I believe is the building you're referring to. I wish we could have had tiger up our way. We've had a house full of company though - I'm about maxed out but my husband is cooking so I shouldn't complain! We're heading down to Oregon next week.

I'm afraid I might get stuck with the buffet bill for people who don't show for my meeting because we have freezing drizzle tonight.

50 people from 15 counties and so far I'm only sure of 14 confirmed and I have guaranteed paying for 20 ( a quorum) because we can't do official votes without that number. I'd better take a big doggie bag. combine holiday plans and bad roads and I'm pessimistic

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/412/index.html

NOW  on PBS

TOXIC TOYS - phthalates in toys - shocking video - watch it on line and/or download it and watch it.

Thanks for your insightful thought piece, Pat.

E. J. Dionne writes today in the Washington Post a brilliant dissection of the ironic condemnations of Jeremiah Wright and the invocations of Martin Luther King by hopelessly ill-informed, hypocritical white conservatives, among others; the whole point of Obama's widely misunderstood address.  Here's some excerpts:

"Yes, black people say things about our country and its injustices to each other that they don't say to those of us who are white. Whites also say things about blacks privately that they don't say in front of their black friends and associates.

"One black leader who was capable of getting very angry indeed is the one now being invoked against Wright. His name was Martin Luther King Jr.

" . . . .

"Listen to what King said about the Vietnam War at his own Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta on Feb. 4, 1968: 'God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war. . . . And we are criminals in that war. We've committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world, and I'm going to continue to say it. And we won't stop it because of our pride and our arrogance as a nation. But God has a way of even putting nations in their place.' King then predicted this response from the Almighty: 'And if you don't stop your reckless course, I'll rise up and break the backbone of your power.'

"If today's technology had existed then, I would imagine the media playing quotations of that sort over and over. Right-wing commentators would use the material to argue that King was anti-American and to discredit his call for racial and class justice. King certainly angered a lot of people at the time.

"I cite King not to justify Wright's damnation of America or his lunatic and pernicious theories but to suggest that Obama's pastor and his church are not as far outside the African American mainstream as many would suggest. I would also ask my conservative friends who praise King so lavishly to search their consciences and wonder if they would have stood up for him in 1968."

mary vb

thanks, the homeless they are serving at the soup kitchen are invisible from the top of the bank

I hope Fred and seashell get a chance to see Obama while he is in Oregon

Pizza is a food pyramid all by itself

brackets and pizza, Obama is a regular guy afterall

I hope Fred and seashell get a chance to see Obama

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The seats were sold out online within an hour.  You had to be close to the campaign to know when that would happen.

It would be difficult to go into crowds for me anyway - very painful with all those people's scents and fragrances, deodorants, cosmetics etc.   Much would get through my mask, headache might keep me awake at night, but  might be worth it  to get a signature for my book.

Anyway, the grapes are sour, and it will be broadcast live on all Medford stations from 9:30 Saturday morning.

Where does seashell live in Oregon?

I enjoyed a few of Steve Kornacki's deadly accurate comments in the New York Observer, including:

"Yesterday morning, about 48 hours after his speech, Obama appeared on a sports radio talk show in Philadelphia. In the course of the conversation, host Angelo Cataldi brought up Obama’s Tuesday speech, homing in on a section of it in which Obama discussed the white grandmother who raised him and the contradictions that she herself embodied on the subject of race.

"'The point I was making,' Obama told Cataldi, 'was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know (pause), there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way.'

"Almost immediately, the online press seized upon this comment, and specifically Obama’s use of the term 'typical white person.' So did some in the blogosphere. This is in keeping with the same simplistic, artificial and worthless parameters of the fake conversation in which this country has been engaged for years: Home in on some imprecisely phrased characterization and extrapolate it to its worst possible implications; create, in effect, a straw man for cynical politicians and media members to attack, until finally the person who uttered the offending comment is forced to apologize or clarify.

"It’s a fairly brainless exercise. It’s also exactly what Obama warned about in his speech, when he noted how easy it is—and how little courage it requires—to take a quote or a clip or a caricature and 'to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.'"

Fred asked "Where does seashell live in Oregon?"  

West Linn.

Story behind the story: The Clinton myth

....But let’s assume a best-case scenario for Clinton, one where she wins every remaining contest with 60 percent of the vote (an unlikely outcome since she has hit that level in only three states so far — her home state of New York, Rhode Island and Arkansas).

Even then, she would still be behind Obama in delegates.

There are 566 pledged delegates up for grabs in upcoming contests. Those delegates come from Pennsylvania (158), Guam (4) North Carolina (115), Indiana (72), West Virginia (28), Kentucky (51), Oregon (52), Puerto Rico (55), Montana (16) and South Dakota (15).

If Clinton won 60 percent of those delegates, she would get 340 delegates to Obama's 226. Under that scenario — and without revotes in Michigan and Florida — Obama would still lead in delegates by 1,632 to 1,589....

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9149_Page2.html

West Linn? seashell - I used to live in Lake Oswego. I go there quite a bit. This trip we're heading down to Eugene with a quick stop in LO.

Fred asked "Where does seashell live in Oregon?"  

West Linn.

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Thanks, that 's in the greater Portland area.  I am down 10 miles from the border with CA.  Obama's going to stop in Eugene tonite  and Medford tomorrow morning, the hub city down here.... Ashland/Talent area, Eugene and greater Portland are liberal strongholds.  The rest of the State is redneck wilderness.

Some quests must simply be too hard to abandon, especially when the coveted object hovers just beyond your reach like a luminous vision.  Clinton can only hope to become the Democratic Party nominee by bringing the party crashing to the ground in a smoldering ruin.  Talk about a pyrrhic victory.

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