Congratulations and good luck. And don't forget to have fun.

Howard dean is first.

Hey, why not fill out an application for endorsement and see...

http://www.dfalink.com/new_candidate.php...

Best wishes :-)

NYT - Clinton facing narrower path to nomination...

"Mrs. Clinton’s advisers had hoped that the uproar over inflammatory remarks made by Mr. Obama’s longtime pastor that has rocked his campaign for a week might lead voters and superdelegates to question whether they really know enough about Mr. Obama to back him. Although it is still early to judge his success, the speech Mr. Obama delivered on race in Philadelphia to address the controversy was well received and praised even by some Clinton supporters.

Mrs. Clinton’s aides hope that disclosures about Mr. Obama’s past like the one involving Mr. Wright could give superdelegates’ pause. Mr. Devine said he thought that at least in terms of Democratic primary voters Mr. Obama had turned the furor to his advantage with his speech on race.

“Obama, confronted by an issue that was boiling, seemed to wade into it with a speech that was in many ways profound,” Mr. Devine said. “As a result, now these people who were so interested and awakened by his candidacy are back with him again. Instead of this being a setback, it becomes an opportunity.” ...

9:29 AM EST

s m -

I posted there on the Obama '08 blog too (thanks for the echo).

Frankly, I'm getting tired of Hillary's flip/flops on the war in Iraq and on NAFTA:

http://kdka.com/national/hillary.clinton.records.2.681317.html

Mar 20, 2008 8:30 am US/Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) ―

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Clinton was an early champion of the North American Free Trade Agreement that she now criticizes. The schedules show her holding at least five meetings in 1993 aimed at helping to win congressional approval of the deal.

She also pushed NAFTA on multiple occasions, including one in November 1993 at a closed meeting with 120 expected participants. As a presidential candidate, she blames the pact for costing jobs and promises to renegotiate it.

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the speech Mr. Obama delivered on race in Philadelphia to address the controversy was well received and praised even by some Clinton supporters.============

Everyone I know loved the speech. Just got a note from a friend in Chi-town, a former Edwards supporter. He LOVED it. Unfortunately it isn't former Edwards supporters or Hillary supporters that Obama needed to click with in that speech.

He needed to assure:

1. Whites (men) that a vote for Barack is not a vote for a black militant...that is what many white guys will associate the Pastor's comments with.

2. His African American base--it was important that they did not perceive him as selling out which would have been the result had he distanced and condemned the Pastor altogether.

From a cynical but accurate political perspective these were the goals of his speech.

I also believe that his speech was absolutely heartfelt and among his most powerful oratory to date....felt the need to clarify that.

In the wide-ranging interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Obama also hit back at rival Clinton's recent claims that he is standing in the way of revotes in Florida and Michigan.

"Sen. Clinton, I have to say on this, has been completely disingenuous. She said when she was still trying to compete with the votes in Iowa and New Hampshire that Michigan and Florida wouldn't count," he said.

"Then, as soon as she got into trouble politically and it looked like she would have no prospects of winning the nomination without having them count, suddenly she's extraordinarily concerned with the voters there."

Titus (who is only 19 years old BTW), I wish you the best of luck, but please find a volunteer to proofread anything you write. You will lose votes if you have literature, LTE's, etc with grammar and spelling like that.

Despite the fact that I have been citing articles critical of Obama (especially from Black Agenda Report--a very authoritative source), I see him as the lesser of evils wrt both Hillary and McCain, and I shall vote for him in the general if he gets the nomination--not so Hillary.

I don't find him credible on a number of issues:

• leaving Iraq (to quote again from BAR-

If Barack believes, as he says, that "the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam" are the reasons we are at war in the Middle East, what difference is there between Obama and Hillary, between Obama and McCain or even between Obama and George Bush or the neo-cons?   If Barack believes this, the promised withdrawal and “over the horizon” redeployment of "combat troops" (not of mercenaries or contractors or counterinsurgency  troops or training troops or the rest of the occupation, just the "combat brigades") will be followed by another intervention somewhere else in hopes of squashing "the perverse and hateful ideology of radical Islam", in Somalia, or Afghanistan, or Pakistan or someplace else.

• Health Care: Like Hillary, he's bought and paid for by the health-care industry.
• reining in the "Military-Industrial Complex". Once again, from BAR:

Obama has already promised to increase the military budget over Bush levels, to add 90,000 more men and women to the army and marines, and to increase the number of US troops in Afghanistan, where we support a coterie of arms and opium smugglers masquerading as a government.

Our "stalwart ally", as Barack called Israel, is in fact a murderous apartheid regime in which Arab "citizens" are forbidden from owning land in most of the country, where their marriages are not recognized by the state, where Arabs are issued different license plates so their cars can be profiled from a distance, and many other indignities.  And those are Arabs with Israeli citizenship.  Palestinians, the owners of the land only two generation ago, are still experiencing wholesale confiscation of their remaining land and assets, penned up into Gaza and the West Bank, humiliated, starved and murdered at will by Israeli armed forces and death squads.  Obama knows these to be facts, and at earlier points in his political career would show up at Palestinian events in Chicago.  But the political game he has chosen to play, and the allies he has chose to play it with require a selective memory.

9:46am

Titus,

Congratulations!  I love your enthusiasm.  Good luck.

9:49 AM EST

well the national polls out now have Obama back to being an underdog:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/20/clinton_takes_lead_over_obama_in_gallup_poll/

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Tom Bearse
Wed, 03/19/08

former wrote "I would ask (and many might later on) respected senator: Why should I trust you to end this war when every single vote to fund it you voted 'Yes', while others, like Kucinich and Paul, were able to vote 'No'?"
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Because voting to fund a war that other members of Congress voted to wage doesn't mean you wouldn't end the war as the Commander in Chief, meaning there is no correlation between the funding votes and ending the war that should cause you any mistrust.

If you posed the question to candidate John Edwards, "why should I trust you to end this war when you voted to authorize it in the first place?", I could understand the basis of your skepticism. Nevertheless, we understood that he would end it, didn't we?
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Regarding question posed to Edwards it is completely another matter. Yes, we understood that Edwards would end it. Why? Because Edwards conceded that HE made a mistake with war authorization vote. Obama never did regarding his funding votes.

Now, to say that “there is no correlation between the funding votes and ending the war� means, imo, disregarding, ignoring and putting upside-down the elementary logic of not only the “correlation� but direct consequent relation between funding and fighting the war. One doesn’t have to be either Princeton or Harvard graduate to realize that without the funding no war can be fought.

Certainly, Obama “can� end this war (meaning, the “redeployment� is just a starting phase to end it). However it worth to note that “skepticism� and “cynicism� he so often refers to American People’s participation in politics is been contributed by his own “Yes� war funding votes too.

Huron John
Thu, 03/20/08
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Very methodical post.....its 10.01 am est 2008.............Obama, because the powers that be even get the slight whiff of scent of any foreign policy change with regards to the ME will not allow this man to win..................Americans will have to change the policies..............its really that simple.

10:02 AM EST

the view from New Zealand:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=698&objectid=10499412

Barack Obama sounded more Martin Luther King like than ever in a landmark speech in Philadelphia today, which may finally have swung the Democratic nomination for the next US Presidential election his way.

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Obama's speech has generated such interest it is now the most watched video on YouTube.

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Good luck Titus! 

Attn: Vermonters:

IRV will soon go before the Gov - call today to voice your opinion and stop him from vetoing this bill.  I called and the lady in the Gov's office was very sweet - she was not sure of his stance on this bill but assured me she would make my wishes known to him - I do hope she gets LOTS of calls today! 

got this, from DFA (now THIS is the type of activism I expect from them!!):

Dear Jo,

I've got great news: The Vermont legislature has passed an Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) bill. The bad news is that we still need to prevent Governor Douglas from wielding his veto pen and killing this essential reform.

clip... IRV or, as it it sometimes called, Ranked Choice Voting is currently in use in cities throughout the United States.  From San Francisco where it is used in Board of Supervisor elections to Burlington, right here in Vermont where it was used for the 2006 mayoral election.

IRV is vitally important in Vermont. With Democrats and Progressives potentially splitting votes against a single Republican, IRV allows Vermonters to vote with their heart without the worry of creating a spoiler and inadvertently electing a candidate that does not represent the will of the voters.

clip... The challenge is to avoid a veto by Gov. Jim Douglas. Call Gov. Douglas right now and make sure he knows where you stand.

Governor Jim Douglas
800 649-6825

I listened to the pundits on Anderson Cooper's show. The only one who made any clear sense was David Gergen. Dee Dee Myers and Amy (the Rep talking head) was insufferable. Even Anderson seemed to imply that Barack couldn't move beyond this Wright controversy. Then Candy Crowley talked about how much the Wright videos have been played. Yes, Candy, your network is partially responsible. Stop playing the damn tapes. Then I switched over and caught for about ten seconds Bill-O. oy, what a mistake - all Obama all the time with of course the Wright stuff.

I'm fed up. The MSM and the Clinton's better not take down this guy.

was s/b were.

cC - Everyone I know loved the speech as well. But like Howard Fineman said *How about the knuckle heads?* I really wish knuckle heads couldn't vote. LOL

One other comment - I would guarantee that the *knuckle head vote* know more about who is on American Idol than paying attention to the election. I witnessed this at the hair salon yesterday. The owners of the salon are Obama supporters but some of the more mature women that were getting beautified were Hillary supporters who of course, thought the speech was too little too late.

mary vb
Thu, 03/20/08
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mary,

If knuckleheads would not have voted in 1868, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000 and 2004 this country would not be in thst state that its in............in fairness however, not ALL knuckleads voted for these "knuckleheads"...............there were alot of smart dudes voting their wallets, wall street, racial bigotry, contempt of the left, gays, etc....................also military expansionism on our part from 'perceived" threats...........

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Michael Ellis
Thu, 03/20/08

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….because the powers that be even get the slight whiff of scent of any foreign policy change with regards to the ME will not allow this man to win..................Americans will have to change the policies..............its really that simple.
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That’s right, powers meet other powers..., lol, and some will be overpowered by others, and this is the point.

Jo*in*Vermont,

2 calls from the voters in our household made. Go IRV!!!!!!!!!!!

rd,

Though I don't think Nat Polls mean much, Rasmussen has Obama actually gaining.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Just want to know why John Kerry and Ted Kennedy aren't out on every network talking about Obama. I haven't seen any of his surrogates on the tv except for Tom Daschle.

I'm so frustrated. Something has to give.

About Obama's speech:

I was in a local store yesterday and the cashier, who was about 19, very excitedly asked if I had watched Obama's great speech. (It's a small town so he must know I'm politically active even though I've never talked to him about politics before). Come to find out he hadn't even watched the speech, but had heard it was great and was very excited about it. Not sure exactly what this means, but thought it was interesting.

mary vb, I don't think that for most Hillary supporters, Pastor Wright's comments are "frightening"...but I do live in the SF Bay Area and maybe the Hil supporters that I know are different than in other parts of the country.

Juan Williams (NPR) responded to a question about Obama's speech yesterday--Juan was asked if he thought that Barack "went far enough" in his speech to assure voters. Juan had issue with Barack's comparison to his white grandmother -- Barack said that he couldn't disown her because she admitted to being afraid of black men on the street.

Williams said he found it a disingenuous comparison--this lady's fear compared to the pastor calling America a terrorist country, "god damn America" and all of that.

I don't necessarily agree with Juan but was surprised at his response--I believe Juan is AA. At any rate, Juan's response was certainly more thoughtful than any knuckle-head responses will be.

The knuckle-heads won't have to pay much attention right now....I believe that they will be bombarded with the most provocative parts of the Pastor's speech...over and over again during the general election.

The knuckles won't respond thoughtfully, rather, instinctively..."is this guy some sort of black militant...a black panther....running for president?"

It does, however, seem to have blown over in the press, for now? I didn't see a whole lot in the news about it last evening.

That does not mean that the Repubs won't dredge it up during the GE. I believe they will.

I know, I know this is Dick Morris.  But I have been following what he has been saying, and he has been pretty spot on.  Please don't give me hell for posting this here.  But it made me feel better.

Pastor Wright: This Too Shall Pass

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_dick_morris/pastor_wright_this_too_shall_pass

I've decided I'm not going to stress anymore.  My husband is about ready to divorce me.  All I can talk about is Obama.  It was the same during Dean campaign.

well the national polls out now have Obama back to being an underdog:

All the more reason for OBama supporters to get touch and work harder for Obama. Obama always liked being the underdog. Now he is portrayed in cherry-picked polls as being the underdog while he is ahead in every category and headed for the nomination. Not a bad place to be -- that is if you believe these polls.

rae - Sometimes even the guy with the toe-sucking fetish (Morris) makes a little sense.

Just want to know why John Kerry and Ted Kennedy aren't out on every network talking about Obama. I haven't seen any of his surrogates on the tv except for Tom Daschle.

I'm so frustrated. Something has to give.

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mary vb -

Neither is there much movement amonst the super delegates of late ( http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html ).

The impression I'm getting is that, like what dog soldier and some others have stated, Obama is largely on his own to fight against the machines (the Clintons experience, the McCain straight talking express, the conservative talk radio domination).

In other words, he's being vetted now as like a sitting President, where attacks, reservations, etc. are all coming in from various angles.  I suspect that Barack has told his surrogates that this is what he wants -- in other words, talking charge and command of issues that have dogged (no pun intended, dog soldier) America for decades, even centuries.

10:45 AM EST

Joan -

Obama supporters are working as hard as they can (in fact, the blog activity on the Obama 08 blog attests to this; I'm surprised their web server can handle all the traffic, it's that many posts -- the impression I get there, is that they refuse to see another maverick sent packing -- reminds me of Deaniacs [smile]).

Juan had issue with Barack's comparison to his white grandmother -- Barack said that he couldn't disown her because she admitted to being afraid of black men on the street.

Williams said he found it a disingenuous comparison--this lady's fear compared to the pastor calling America a terrorist country, "god damn America" and all of that.

cC,

First of all, Juan is nitpicking.

Second, Obama was not comparing his grandmother's fears to his pastors words, that would be a huge stretch of the imagination. He was explaining, perhaps in more depth that Juan could comprehend, how whites sometimes reacted to blacks on the streets.

http://rand.org/pubs/testimonies/CT158-1/

Limits of Rapproachment with Iran

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I think Obama got it exactly right in terms of race, and again with his ME speech in back to back days. two for two

the argument that Mike makes will take a decade or more to play out, but it can only happen if Obama is elected President in this cycle

the world community has to be involved with our exit, the neighbors brought in, and Palestinian progress has to occur simultaneously

McCain with Lieberman whispering in his ear isn't goint to get us there

neither is it going to happen without a rock solid backing of Israeli security and a readiness to use special forces against terrorist targets(whatever you want to name them

Jo in Vermont thanks for the research and links on the last thread re: paying Iraqis not to be violent.

committee executive board meeting I was amazed when one of our co chairs said that hillary can't win va. and if nominated they would just work to get mark warner elected.

The Dem party of Va does not think Hillary is viable

Go Barack.

Voter registration for Dems way up in PA. I hope this bodes well for Barack although I think Hillary will take the state. I just hope he can narrow the numbers.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/0...

Phil Specht
Thu, 03/20/08
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Spot on Phil.........in this complex world, at leat the position we have put oursleves in anyways, I would encourage "backdoor" diplomacy in key regions..............it all boil down to , do we want to be the policeman of the world, as our nation crumbles from within? 

I, believe Obama would embark on such a unprecedented attempt.........but you are correct, Mccain and Hillary and their followers are dead wood........architects of a failed and failing policy

Not everybody can join the Navy........lol

re: perhaps in more depth that Juan could comprehend, how whites sometimes reacted to blacks on the streets.

Juan Cole always seems to be trying to walk the middle line - he's very careful not to take one side or the other.  I've often thought when listening to him that he is failing to do (what Obama seems to do naturally, effortlessly) and that is to appear to be 'no' color.  he tries to think/sound like a white man in a black man's body.  that's not necessarily a bad thing - I think anytime one tries to walk in another's shoes is good.  but if it's insincere, if it's a facade...  anyway, it doesn't seem to work for him - it doesn't fit.

Obama supporters are working as hard as they can (in fact, the blog activity on the Obama 08 blog attests to this; I'm surprised their web server can handle all the traffic

rd,

I expect a lot of that traffic is from you and from me:)) I check it several times a day, if not more.

Annilow - you're welcome - you knew you heard it right!  I am totally pissed that there is so much info on it out there and the corpmedia doesn't plaster it in the news each and every time Bush & Co try to tell us how well the surge is working...  they, the corpmediawhores, are complicit in this war, for every single day it continues.  they were pumping it up when it began and they've been controlling the 'reality' of it ever since.

Jess - I'm emailing every VTer I know to call the Gov's office - IRV needs to become a done deal in Vermont! 

Gun Owners Fooled By Mammoth Supreme Court Hoax

Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson
Prison Planethttp://www.infowars.com/?p=920
Thursday, March 20, 2008

Comments made by justices in an ongoing landmark case have been heralded as a "victory" for the individual right to bear arms by the media and embraced by self-proclaimed conservatives, but in reality gun owners are the victim of a mammoth hoax and the second amendment is being destroyed.

As Gun Owners of America point out today in a USA Today op-ed, the second amendment is the very bedrock of America and shouldn’t even be the subject of a Supreme Court debate.

Individual Right to Bear Arms Wins Favor in Court Argument, the headline from the New York Law Journal, was typical of the media output after most of the nine Supreme Court justices hinted that the right to bear arms is a "general right."

However, the case is likely to conclude with the introduction of several new regulations on hand gun ownership at the very least, and, if the government gets its way, a total ban on handguns.

The outcome will set the precedent for gun laws nationwide.

NAFTA: Clinton Will Sell Us Down the River Again

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
March 20, 2008

It’s true. Clinton has experience Obama does not. She was in the White House and an enthusiastic supporter of NAFTA. Hillary and her husband oversaw the deindustrialization of America. Of course, as Bill Clinton admitted to a truth activist recently, NAFTA was signed, sealed and delivered without his input, he was simply trotted out in ceremonial fashion to give the impression that an imprimatur was attached, as if we live in a democracy or something.

Regardless, Reuters tells us: “The NAFTA agreement, linking trade between the United States, Canada and Mexico, was considered a major accomplishment by President Bill Clinton in 1994″ and once secret documents “clearly indicated that Clinton had a powerful role at the White House, frequently meeting foreign leaders and presiding over meetings” as instructed by his handlers.

11:20 AM EST

it depends on you:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1723960,00.html

Obama's Speech

Wednesday, Mar. 19, 2008

By JOE KLEIN

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What, if any, impact will the speech have on the campaign? Probably not as much as it should. It was delivered in the morning, to a minuscule television audience. It deserved a full hearing, but most Americans heard it in sound bites and from headlines—and I imagine that for more than a few, the headline will be 'Obama Refuses To Disown His Anti-American Pastor.' This is where inexperience really hurts—not Obama's inexperience but the public's inexperience with him. For many Americans, the Wright flap is the third thing they've learned about Obama. The first two were that he is black and has a "funny" name. All too many voters don't get beyond first impressions, but it's not impossible. In 1992 the first thing most Americans learned about Bill Clinton was that he'd been shagging a lounge singer named Gennifer Flowers. The second was that he'd avoided the military draft during Vietnam. But Clinton—a politician as extraordinary as Obama—managed to survive and, intermittently, prosper.

Whether Obama survives now will depend on the most important and overlooked part of his speech—the final section, in which he challenged the public and, especially, the media to stow the sensationalism: "We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day ... and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words," he said. "But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election we'll be talking about some other distraction ... And nothing will change ... Or, at this moment in this election, we can come together and say, 'Not this time.'"

And that is the existential challenge of 2008: whether we will have a big election or a small one. Will we have a serious conversation about the enormous problems confronting the country—the wars, the economic crisis, the looming environmental cataclysm—or will we allow the same-old carnival of swift boats and sound bites? The answer depends on the candidates, of course, and on the media—where cynicism too often passes for insight. But most of all, it depends on you.

In other words, he's being vetted now as like a sitting President, where attacks, reservations, etc. are all coming in from various angles.

That depends on the sitting president. Reagan and Bushboy survived only by not being scrutinized.

Jay Rockefeller is opening it up right now for the Obama speech this morning in W. VA. CNN claims they will have coverage, but we'll see just how much coverage before they begin their punditing tactics.

Tellicom Immunity ( The Corporations) have a big friend in J. Rockefeller.

Obama is on CNN right now.

I love this guy.

I will NOT vote for hillary. I have lost all respect for her. All

I just gave $50 to Obama.

I was pleasantly surprised to hear John Harwood scolding Contessa earlier today - apparently some Dean-bashing Hillary superdelegate was on with her before him (didn't get the name - missed that part of it) and John told her NOT to blame Howard Dean - that HD had made it very clear what the rules were and that the states knowingly broke those rules.  what a surprise - cmw's pointing out the spin and lies and championing the truth!  boy, do we need momre of that.

Sirota unmasks the lies of Clinton, Emanuel and Gergen

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

I hope Obama gives another speech soon.

it is hard to have a conversation when your response goes upthread.

Just a thought - but I believe one of the most dangerous Clinton surrogates out there (and there are many) is Lanny Davis. Oh, he comes across as so mild-mannered, etc. The man doesn't seem to have an honest bone in his body. I remember him shilling for Lieberman and saying some horrible things about Lamont.

The man is scary.

It is much too early for a full-court press.  Rockefeller is not secure.  He needs to make an effort.  If I were in West Virginia, I'd do everything in my power to replace him.  He spent a huge fortune to get elected. 

Jo*in*Vermont wrote:
Jess - I'm emailing every VTer I know to call the Gov's office - IRV needs to become a done deal in Vermont!

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I just got an email from MoveOn saying to call the Gov too. :-)

Some of Hillary's tricks are getting downright insulting.  Tasking Obama with straightening out the delegate mess in Michigan and Florida is beyond ridiculous.  Republicans in particular often promise stuff they can't deliver, but tasking someone else with an undeliverable task is beyond ludicrous.  She's insulting common sense. 

obama isn't going to take the gambit; most of the public don't give a fig for these party shinanegins; so, what's the point?  Distraction.  An effort to keep the media attention on her. 

50.

*** cChalfonte***
Thu, 03/20/08

Reply to this

fred, well over a year ago.....I reminded you that YOU stated you were a Rush-loving Repub until you came upon hard times yourself.

I am paraphrasing but that is a fair representation of your comment.

^That was for clarification and I won't discuss it
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You reminded me?

You know nothing about me or my life... and just pieced together a fantasy tale that I estracted from a few innuendoes I made.

Your statement about me not only revealed how you fabricate stories without facts (something you charge me with)

but also reveals a classic "liberal elitism," in your personality, a sterotype that conservatives love point to as irrelevant to real people in the real world.

And let's remember one other thing: The Democrats will increasingly realize that he will be their nominee and, in continuing this battle, they are eating their own.=====

Joan, from your link^^. I agree wholeheartedly with Morris on this. To the best of my knowledge, Hillary has not tried to use the Pastor problem to her advantage. I like that.

I also agree wit Susan...Barack needs to deliver more speeches...about the economy, the economy and also the economy. This will get folks' attention.

back to work. Hope you all have a great day.

NAFTA is the 21st Century variation of colonialism.  Instead of using briber to persuade some local chief to grant access to natural resources that are wanted, they've moved to drawing up documents that grant concessions for nothing--nothing, because there's no way to enforce the supposed benefits that are promised to be delivered.

There are a number of underlying economic assumptions which are basically false.  The primary one is that people are going to be better off earning money for their labor than merely exchanging services with families and neighbors.  Using money to mediate transactions can be useful if great distances and time differentials are to be overcome.  But, there's always the problem that money is really easy to clip. 

Hillary's little episode in  Detroit trying to pressure the MI legislature to succumb to her will, irritated even the Democrats there saying she did more harm than good. Her appearance made it look exactly like it is -- a Hillary primary (no caucus as before with Republicans and Independents), requested by Hillary Clinton, bought and paid for by at least a dozen Clinton supporters -- together showed that it a Clinton primary and not a primary "for the voters of Michigan" as she pretends it to be.

Obama is right, Hillary Clinton judgment is terrible. She keeps shooting herself in the foot.

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*** cChalfonte***
Thu, 03/20/08

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fred, well over a year ago.....I reminded you that YOU stated you were a Rush-loving Repub until you came upon hard times yourself.

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I never said such a thing. You are scrambling several different statements I made about several different things. I never had any great love for Rush Limbaugh. I only said that when he had a TV show, I sometimes watched it, and some things he said made me laugh.

I am almost 60 years old and was working for an underground newspaper during the Viet Nam war. I was an acquaitance of Jerry Rubin and Abbey Hoffman. I was a Jimmy Carter fan. And until the late 1980s, I alway supported Israel, blindly I might add.

Democrats were not always perfect. And our party really sucked at times. Republicans turned out to be worse.

You would be better to show sensitivity to show hospitality to people converting to liberalism, rather than suggest inquisitions as to who was once a conservative and/or Republicans.

I agree with you about Rockefeller. His liberal vote cannot be counted on for even important domestic issues.

His support for Obama is not worth much more than that of Murtha's for Clinton. Together they are a wash as far as endorsements.

The man doesn't seem to have an honest bone in his body. I remember him shilling for Lieberman and saying some horrible things about Lamont.

The man is scary.


Mary...you mean Barack Obama? That was the same time Barack Obama called Joe Lieberman his mentor.

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24333...

new one

Obama is now costing the Democrats the election.

I am hearing from many people, even ones who voted for him in the Primarhy already, that they feel betrayed by Obama and are not going to vote now in the General.

Boy, I just love the Unity Obama has created.

There's a new thread up

Linda, re: Obama is now costing the Democrats the election.

I am hearing from many people, even ones who voted for him in the Primarhy already, that they feel betrayed by Obama and are not going to vote now in the General.

Boy, I just love the Unity Obama has created.

what a crock of crap - are you trying to convince us, or yourself?  don't look now, Linda, but your hatred is showing...