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Bush to Congress: Drop Dead

Written by: DFA Staff on Mar 5, 2008 11:00 AM EST

The official position of the Bush adminstration is that Congress is "irrelevant" when its comes to Iraq. The Army Times, in a story titled "Bush Officlas: Congress irrelevant on Iraq, lays it all out:

The Bush administration says the 2002 congressional authorization to go to war in Iraq gives it the authority to conduct combat operations in Iraq and negotiate far-reaching agreements with the current Iraqi government without consulting Congress.

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By Ellen Garneau on Mar 5, 2008 3:49 PM EST

Howard is empowered, and therefore first!

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By rae hart on Mar 5, 2008 4:38 PM EST

Howard Dean is indeed first.

This was on the bottom of last thread.  Sorry for the repost.

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By rae hart on Mar 5, 2008 4:39 PM EST

Got back from Ohio about an hour ago.   Bummer.  I'm a little dejected and a whole lot tired.

Before I go rest, I wanted to let you know this.  That last weekend in Ohio HRC and her campaign workers showed their true colors. On Sat  my Uncle received a call from her campaign, after explaining HRCs position on NAFTA to him, the campaign worker said Osama Bin Laden's position is much different.  My Uncle hung up.  To say Osama instead of Obama might be a slip up (I doubt it) but not the whole name.  There you have it.  IMHO HRC is a shameless witch.

I'm going to be off the blog for awhile, my family needs some TLC.

Thank you rd for the shout out.  Thank you for all you do.

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 3:54 PM EST

rae hart - Phil gave you a Howardly in your absence.

Thank you for making the trip to Ohio and working so hard.
You're awesome.

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By Jessica Falker on Mar 5, 2008 3:57 PM EST

Deaniacs, Dean Folk, Dean Supporters, etc are all first!

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By Jessica Falker on Mar 5, 2008 3:57 PM EST

Thank you rae hart!

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 3:59 PM EST

hugs rae - thank you so much for all you do!

some folks were looking for info on Bill in Canada........ I posted this on the last thread but it ended up towards the top...

yes, Bill was in Toronto last Saturday, meeting with his business partner, one of the wealthiest and most influential men in Canada - the Clintons may end up extremely sorry they ever started this NAFTA/Canadian flap – and geez - there's so much to this story!:

Bill Clinton and Frank Giustra -- Together Again

March 01, 2008 1:17 PM

Former President Bill Clinton tonight heads to Toronto for the Clinton-Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative Project Launch.

You remember Frank Giustra, right?

Per the New York Times , Clinton helped Giustra win a Kazakh uranium deal.

Per the Times, "Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them....

... "Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges."

... "Last November, the plane traveled from Manchester, New Hampshire, where Clinton was campaigning for his wife, to Dublin and London, where he appeared at fund-raising events for her. Clinton spokesman Matt McKenna said the Hillary Clinton campaign paid for the flight."

Public ethics and good government groups have called this all a class conflict of interest. But it continues and continues. Rather brazenly.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/former-presiden.html

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 4:06 PM EST

rae - re:

the campaign worker said Osama Bin Laden's position is much different. 

this sounds like right out of Rove's playbook - which I would expect it might be, except I recall that you said the caller ID showed it as Clinton's campaign line, is that right?  anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if the repubs start playing this type of game - work to knock their real threat out of the water and if they bloody up Clinton as the suspect behind their bad actions - extra points!  I'll be on the lookout for that sort of thing from now on.

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By Ellen Garneau on Mar 5, 2008 4:20 PM EST

It worries me a bit if the Republicans start voting in the Dem. Primary (because their's is already decided) and vote for Hillary because they think she'll be easier to beat than Obama. (Also to kill the grass roots, etc.) Rush actually asked people to do that yesterday in Ohio. Hopefully Dean can and will stop it if it comes to that point. (I guess you could "prove" it by the number of voters...?)

Also, a note... It was brought up years ago (like in the 70's) that it is sexist to call a female by her first name and her male equal by his last name. We all have been generally doing that (and not meaning anything by it) when we refer to Hillary vs. Obama.

 Peace. "Dogma"

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 5:08 PM EST

the campaign worker said Osama Bin Laden's position is much different. 

this sounds like right out of Rove's playbook

In 1984 Democratic primary voters fell for "Where's the beef?" and let mondale get the nomination

In 2004 they fell for "latte drinking, birkenstock wearing......" and gave it to John Kerry.

So don't be surprised that many are also falling for The Clintons' smear campaign. They should have been drummed out of the campaign back when their surrogates Bob Kerry and Billy Shaheen made racial and religious attacks against Obama. But instead Democratic voters rewarded them for it just as GOP voters rewarded Bush's smears against McSame in 2000. 

Not only are the differences between Democratic and Republican politicians barely discernable in most cases these days, but the voters of both parties are too often indistiguishable in their gullibility for the same lines of attack. 

 

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By sandy m on Mar 5, 2008 5:13 PM EST

I got thinking about B.C. being in Canada Sat for that business meeting, and perhaps other reasons.  Then I remembered the flack on Sat night that no one knew where she was.  Then the SNL thing.  I'll bet you they created a diversion to draw attention away from B.C. going to Canada.

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By Karen on Mar 5, 2008 5:31 PM EST

Here's a portion of David Plouffe's email I just received...


"Our projections show the most likely outcome of yesterday's elections will be that Hillary Clinton gained 187 delegates, and we gained 183.

That's a net gain of 4 delegates out of more than 370 delegates available from all the states that voted.

For comparison, that's less than half our net gain of 9 delegates from the District of Columbia alone. It's also less than our net gain of 8 from Nebraska, or 12 from Washington State. And it's considerably less than our net gain of 33 delegates from Georgia.

The task for the Clinton campaign yesterday was clear. In order to have a plausible path to the nomination, they needed to score huge delegate victories and cut into our lead.

They failed.

It's clear, though, that Senator Clinton wants to continue an increasingly desperate, increasingly negative -- and increasingly expensive -- campaign to tear us down.

That's her decision. But it's not stopping John McCain, who clinched the Republican nomination last night, from going on the offensive. He's already made news attacking Barack, and that will only become more frequent in the coming days.

Right now, it's essential for every single supporter of Barack Obama to step up and help fight this two-front battle. In the face of attacks from Hillary Clinton and John McCain, we need to be ready to take them on.

Will you make an online donation of $25 right now?"

https://donate.barackobama.com/math

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By FRED from OR on Mar 5, 2008 4:47 PM EST

OBAMA: In the Weeks to Come, A Costly Battle on Two Fronts

Obama aides stressed that the campaign will not be drawn into a fight for Pennsylvania on Clinton's terms: an expensive, all-out battle focused on her. Instead, the campaign's main target will be McCain -- a point underscored by Obama when he declared himself "ready to start a great debate about the future of the country with a man who loves his country and served it bravely."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/04/AR2008030403392.html?nav=rss_print/asection

video

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/03/04/VI2008030402871.html?sid=ST2008030501833

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A great idea - start acting like the nominee today and Hillary's vicious attacks become irrelevant and made to look like she's helping McCain.

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By FRED from OR on Mar 5, 2008 4:56 PM EST

72.

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Wed, 03/05/08

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Got back from Ohio about an hour ago. Bummer. I'm a little dejected and a whole lot tired.

Before I go rest, I wanted to let you know this. That last weekend in Ohio HRC and her campaign workers showed their true colors. On Sat my Uncle received a call from her campaign, after explaining HRCs position on NAFTA to him, the campaign worker said Osama Bin Laden's position is much different. My Uncle hung up. To say Osama instead of Obama might be a slip up (I doubt it) but not the whole name. There you have it. IMHO HRC is a shameless witch.....

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This kind of cheap shit was inevitable at some point, and will get worse in the general election. That doesn't mean we should let it pass.  It should be noted and brought out in the open for the media.

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By sandy m on Mar 5, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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By dog soldier on Mar 5, 2008 5:24 PM EST

Congress made itself irrelevent when it took impeachment off the table.
The war authorization could be blunted if Cheney and then Bush were impeached. With 6 months to go before the election, that won't happen.
Regardless of who wins the WH in November, Pelosi and Reid must be replaced.

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By dog soldier on Mar 5, 2008 5:38 PM EST

There are huge differences between HC And JM in areas outside the war and overall tendencies.
They are not even close in taxes, medical care, economy, etc.
Both are warmongers and both favor a top-down management and organization scheme that has proven to be ineffectual in today's world. Both are owned by the very folks they would have to contest to get their programs passed.

BO wants us to share the journey with him. This desire to share the journey has built many strong social movements. In my many years of community involvement, most folks want to be asked to particpate. When HC says she wants our help, she means to just get elected. She will take it from there. When BO says he wants our help, it is to be involved in the process of betterment for all. The difference is huge and why folks lump HC and JM together. They both have similar visions.

Hillary is a control freak. With Bubba unzipped, she may have no other choice. McCain is a has-been military type that knows no other way. He still thinks we could have won VN as he thinks we should stay and bleed us and the Iraq folks dry.
HC is totally despicable in her quest for the nomination. Even if she wins, her victory is pyrrhic as she as enraged those who must support her. In VN, we used to say we destroyed a village and killed everyone in it to keep them from going Communist. HC is destroying the Dem party surge in order to secure a nomination.

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By audrey.nc on Mar 5, 2008 6:31 PM EST

does anyone know if Obama took in 70 million in Feb?

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By Michael Ellis on Mar 5, 2008 5:49 PM EST

Got back from Ohio about an hour ago.   Bummer.  I'm a little dejected and a whole lot tired.

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rae,

"twas a worthy effort..........a bloody good effort...............a noble effort.................

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By dog soldier on Mar 5, 2008 6:00 PM EST

An interesting goal for HC is to get supporters that would normally support JM. HC does well with old folks and joe sixpacks. These are staples for Repubs. BO is going for the rest and bringing in new folks.
HC looses because she will not expaand her base enough. In the end, seniors and lower-middle class folks will go to McCain. The newbees will stay home and HC looses because she compressed her support. BO wins because he expands the pool of likely voters.

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By FRED from OR on Mar 5, 2008 6:52 PM EST

Government concedes vaccine injury case

By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer 25 minutes ago

Government health officials have conceded that childhood vaccines worsened a rare, underlying disorder that ultimately led to autism-like symptoms in a Georgia girl, and that she should be paid from a federal vaccine-injury fund.

Medical and legal experts say the narrow wording and circumstances probably make the case an exception — not a precedent for thousands of other pending claims.

The government "has not conceded that vaccines cause autism," said Linda Renzi, the lawyer representing federal officials, who have consistently maintained that childhood shots are safe.

However, parents and advocates for autistic children see the case as....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080305/ap_on_he_me/autism_vaccines_4;_ylt=AotI5_6GzLJGQOxiih3ay.cE1vAI

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 6:09 PM EST
hmmmm.... from Dave Winer:

I thought today would be a great day to interview UC-Berkeley professor George Lakoff on the Democratic campaign, who should have done what, and how his candidate (and mine) Barack Obama should proceed in the race with Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

Here's the 25-minute interview in an MP3.

http://sundaygang.com/lakoff/lakoff050308.mp3

I think he hit it out of the park and I hope this makes its way into the Obama campaign. It's got so much more substance than the typical talking head stuff on CNN and MSNBC.

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By Phil Specht on Mar 5, 2008 6:10 PM EST

rae

you won a HOWARDLY for your effort, seems not enough right now but you are in good company with others that have also stepped up to the plate and you delivered your best

Obama had a better day than the press is giving him credit for, since he will end up with more delegates out of Texas

Ohio is a state Clinton targeted on day one as must win.

Whoever has the most delegates wins the nomination and your effort might have kept one more for Obama and one less for Clinton and every time that happens in any state is of the same value no matter who came up on top of that state.

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 6:11 PM EST

audrey - Obama hasn't released his Feb $$$ yet.  the speculation is $70+ mil but that's all it is so far - speculation.

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 6:15 PM EST

for you, rae... (hope this doesn't break the blog....)

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 6:20 PM EST

hat tip to Monica for copying from her blog:

http://www.smith-family.com/

and many thanks again to Dimetrius for his creation of that lovely statue of honor - back when the blog was young...... 

I have to say, I miss so many of those blogging Deaniacs!  good people, they are.  (especially, tearfully, jc)

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 6:25 PM EST

lol - ONE good thing about this screwy blog is that if you forget something you wanted in your post you can add a quick note and just post again - it's quite likely to end up directly below your last post!!  the blog's sort function must be very ill! 

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By Phil Specht on Mar 5, 2008 6:30 PM EST

Obama won Texas don't let Clinton claim otherwise. This entire exercise is an allocation of delegates to the National nominating convention.

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 6:31 PM EST

if the blog posts were being sorted by date and time and they removed the date and time to 'fix' the blog then it no longer has it's default to sort to.  isn't there some GENIUS INTERN at hdqtrs who could throw a bit of time at this while we're waiting for that new roll-out in a couple of months....  ?  pretty pleeeeeease?

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By Karen on Mar 5, 2008 7:26 PM EST

New election poll on ABC News tonight...

Obama 52% - McCain 40%

Clinton 46% - McCain 40%

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By dog soldier on Mar 5, 2008 6:42 PM EST

This will help vets out.
petition if you care.

http://www.iava.org/2008-legislative-age...

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By dog soldier on Mar 5, 2008 6:45 PM EST

Another view of the Dem nomination effort.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23485985/

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If they get caught up debating policies from the past, it only muddies the change message. If they focus instead on who would be best at tying McCain to an unpopular president, a protracted primary might not be all that problematic.

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By Phil Specht on Mar 5, 2008 6:53 PM EST

Bill Bradley is taking off the gloves against Clinton on the NewsHour.

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Mar 5, 2008 7:04 PM EST

NO Hillary/Barack team up. Nada, nyet, non, nunca, jamais - never!

Off to our SMCDFA meeting soon. Our state assembly candidates are going to be there for some Q&A and present their positions for our state assembly distirct.


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By Phil Specht on Mar 5, 2008 7:08 PM EST

new thread

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By FRED from OR on Mar 5, 2008 9:44 PM EST

Local news network poll in OREGON shows Obama favored here 75% to 25%

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