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Written by: DFA Staff on Mar 4, 2008 10:30 PM EST

From CNN:

Democratic and Republican Presidential Primaries and Caucuses

On March 4, Democrats and Republicans hold primaries in Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas and Vermont. The Democrats also hold caucuses in Texas. For the Democrats, 370 delegates are tied to Tuesday's events, while 256 delegates are at stake for the Republicans.

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Ohio

Rhode Island


Texas (Primary)


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By Imn2Paine on Mar 4, 2008 11:48 PM EST
So you think your schoolings phoney
I guess its hard not to agree
You say it all depends on money
And who is in your family tree
Right, youre bloody well right
You know you got a right to say
Right, youre bloody well right
You know you got a right to say
Ha-ha youre bloody well right
You know youre right to say
Yeah-yeah youre bloody well right
You know youre right to say
Me, I dont care anyway!
Write your problems down in detail
Take them to a higher place
Youve had your cry - no, I should say wail
In the meantime hush your face
Right, quite right, youre bloody well right... Supertramp - Bloody Well Right
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By Stat Man on Mar 4, 2008 11:49 PM EST

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mary vb
Tue, 03/04/08

 

Weird data from Texas.  Many counties only show early voting (Travis and Harris).

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_136_county100.htm

 

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By puddle on Mar 4, 2008 11:49 PM EST

Last I heard, Howie wuz First!! woot!!!!

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By mary vb on Mar 4, 2008 11:51 PM EST

Stat Man - Chuck Todd seems to be the guy to watch (if you can suffer through Tweety). Anyway, he said Houston, Dallas and Austin are only reporting 1-4% so Obama's totals will definitely creep up.

Also, watch the caucuses.

ps -

Can't stand watching Tweety spit all over his chin. Glad I'm not sitting next to him. ;-)

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 4, 2008 11:52 PM EST
School

I can see you in the morning
When you go to school
Don't forget our books,
You know you've got to learn the golden rule.
Teacher tells you
Stop your play and go on with your work,
And be like Johnnie Toogood.
Don't you know he never shrinks, he's coming
along
After school is over
Your playing in the park,
Don't be out too late
Don't let it get too dark.
They tell you not to hang around
And learn what life's about
And grow up just like them,
Won't let you work it out
And you're full of doubt
Maybe I'm mistaken
Expecting you to fight
Or maybe I'm just crazy
I don't know wrong from right. But while I'm
still living
I've just got this to say
It's always up to you, if you want to be that,
Want to see that, want to see it that way.
Don't do this and don't do that
What are they tryin' to do ?
Make a good boy of you,
Do they know where it's at?
Don't criticise they're old and wise
Do as they tell you to,
Don't want the devil to,
Come and pull out your eyes.
You're coming along

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By mary vb on Mar 4, 2008 11:54 PM EST
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By Imn2Paine on Mar 4, 2008 11:54 PM EST

Puddle wrote,

Last I heard, Howie wuz First!! woot!!!!

 

What you said. 

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By mary vb on Mar 4, 2008 11:55 PM EST

wow, Obama took the majority of the very religious and the majority of the not religious.

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:08 PM EST

hil won ohio but obama won delegates 2 to 1, how did that happen. nite hillary. you are so dissapointing. you lost it and you just lost it.

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 4, 2008 11:59 PM EST

As I have watched Hillary, and her "crowds"

I just don't sense passion

I smell more of Kerry in 2004.

But Hillary's speechwriter does listen ...

...even though it is in comparison to Obama - contrived. 

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 12:00 AM EST

and edwards will endorse tomorrow? wtf ? who cares now? just go home. 

My guess is that Obama has planned to save his big ammo for after these primaries in the eventuality the clintons win them, as polls have indicated possible and even likely.

It will really blunt Hillary's storyline of a big comeback if Obama announces that he raised $50-70M in Feb., picks up 50 superdels, and gets endorsements from Edwards and Richardson. 

And it's the smart thing to do since such news probably wouldn't have had much effect of today's outcomes anyway if released earlier.

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By Karen on Mar 4, 2008 11:13 PM EST

When do they count the caucus votes?

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By publius on Mar 5, 2008 12:01 AM EST

CNN Texas Exit polls' gender and maturity levels look good for HRC

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 12:01 AM EST

I can't listen to Hillary the Harpy. Sorry if that's cheeky but she won Ohio with fear and uber negativity. I'm sick of it and don't want any more of it...

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By Progressive Avenger on Mar 5, 2008 12:03 AM EST

Just shut off the TV. Can't stand to listen to Clinton's "victory" speech. She looks like the  cat that ate the canary.

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:14 PM EST

Listen, you all, no one "wins" in the states. they get delegates. Hill won ohio and obama got 50% more delegates. don't you get it? she is toast.

 the delegates matter. get some brain power going.

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 12:05 AM EST

Teenager doing her homework just piped up that the crowd is shouting *Yes, she can* LOL

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By on Mar 4, 2008 11:15 PM EST

HA HA NO I CANT SAID IT, THE HELL I WONT TOLD YA! LOL GOD PEOPLE ITS NOT TO LATE TO WAKE UP!I WAS ONCE BLIND BUT NOW I SEE!!!!!!!!!! “There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?” BOBBY KENNEDY,

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:05 AM EST
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By publius on Mar 5, 2008 12:06 AM EST

"It will really blunt Hillary's storyline of a big comeback if Obama announces that he raised $50-70M in Feb."

No sale.
Votes and states decide who goes to the White House.

Dems better weigh blind faith against who has won the big blues
in this primary season.  

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:16 PM EST

Let me see, bill screws every woman and hillary screws the sorry poor voters. what is the difference? she is a loser like her husband.

she is pathetic.

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By Holly J on Mar 5, 2008 12:08 AM EST

It will really blunt Hillary's storyline of a big comeback if Obama announces that he raised $50-70M in Feb., picks up 50 superdels, and gets endorsements from Edwards and Richardson.

And it's the smart thing to do
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Thanks Sitka-- I needed that so i can sleep a little better tonight

I want to know that Obama can regain his momentum. Hate to think Hillary got hers from being so mean spirited and I really don't want Obama to go that road

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 12:08 AM EST

The big blues? How 'bout Virginia, Colorado, Missouri, Illinois and I know i'm forgetting another *big* state.

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:10 AM EST

Ronald Cloud

are you a son of Texas?

Do you peopel really like Hillary? 

 

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By volney simmons on Mar 4, 2008 11:24 PM EST

Paine, watch the camera shots on the rallies.

When they cover an Obama rally they usually show the huge crowd there. When they cover a Hill rally they keep the camera stationary and pointed at her.

I've wondered if in some of these rallies, 70% of the crowd is actually positioned behind her, for effect.

If she actually did lose the delegate count in Ohio, yes, she is toast and even she knows that.

-- volney

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By Karen on Mar 4, 2008 11:25 PM EST

linda b, please explain...

"Hill won ohio and obama got 50% more delegates."

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:21 PM EST

obama has the delegates tonite, even in ohio. so hillary, go home. and in texas. hillary is toast.

at least you have bill to go home to. how sad is that.

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By Tom Bearse on Mar 5, 2008 12:14 AM EST

Ronald wrote "Dems better weigh blind faith against who has won the big blues in this primary season."

The big blues winners:  Terry McAuliffe, James Carville and Harold Ford.  I could be converted into a Nader supporter with this team.

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By publius on Mar 5, 2008 12:15 AM EST

"are you a son of Texas?

Do you peopel really like Hillary?"

1. Nope, deep red of Georgia

2. I like Hillary.    

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:19 AM EST

Well "red" Cloud,

I am not afraid of Hillary Clinton.

Yet, my hopes and aspirations are with Barack Obama

who is now speaking.

So, excuse me.

Please. 

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By mainefem on Mar 4, 2008 11:31 PM EST

Glad to see lindab "gets it."

 Enough of the schizoid emoting. 

 Totals won't be in until tomorrow.

Chill--use your brains, indeedy.

Rinse...lather...repeat:  

ONLY delegates matter.

 

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:24 AM EST

Good, new stump mix by Barack ;-)

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:25 AM EST

And, BTW, Barack does not sound...

contrived. 

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 12:25 AM EST

A couple of things to note about Obama's speech....

Even though The Clintons are the projected winner of OH, and TX is still too close to call, Obama is speaking after Hillary -- the traditional practice of the victor. Also, the first thing he did was to congratulate her, something she's rarely if ever done after his wins.

Hillary's last hurrah? 

 

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:37 PM EST

Let me see, the delegates are allocated by cong. district and who voted in the last election. so those who sat on their arses and did not vote, don't count.

so in a primary vote, the delegates matter.

hillary is toast. i wanted her at first but she showed her cards, like bill, they are one and the same.

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:39 PM EST

hmm. hill has been trashing obama and calling him osama and saying she takes him at his word he is not muslim..

can I take you at your word that you voted for the war in iraq?  

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 12:30 AM EST

No sale.
Votes and states decide who goes to the White House.

In that case, tell The Clintons to drop out tomorrow since Hillary doesn't stand a Bush's chance in heaven of winning the most of either. 

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By linda b on Mar 4, 2008 11:40 PM EST

hillary won ohio but lost the delegate count. she gets the cotton candy but has to go home to ...bill

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:32 AM EST
 Authorization for the use of force Colin Powell holding a model vial of anthrax while giving a presentation to the United Nations Security Council Colin Powell holding a model vial of anthrax while giving a presentation to the United Nations Security Council

In October, 2002, a few days before the U.S. Senate voted on the Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq,

 

 

 

 

...about 75 senators were told in closed session that Saddam Hussein had the means of attacking the eastern seaboard of the U.S. with biological or chemical weapons delivered by unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).[44]
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By Stat Man on Mar 5, 2008 12:33 AM EST

Clinton’s speech seemed so parochial, little and nasty compared to Obama’s speech.  She has no grace.

 

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Fox is so stupid, they just cut off Obama's speach when it was exactly the same length as Fox, because it was fair and balanced. 

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By on Mar 4, 2008 11:44 PM EST

cle Archives Listen to Alex Jones Contact TruthNews
More Americans turning to Web for news
Reuter
February 29, 2008

Nearly 70 percent of Americans believe traditional journalism is out of touch, and nearly half are turning to the Internet to get their news, according to a new survey.

While most people think journalism is important to the quality of life, 64 percent are dissatisfied with the quality of journalism in their communities, a We Media/Zogby Interactive online poll showed.

“That’s a really encouraging reflection of people who care a) about journalism and b) understand that it makes a difference to their lives,” said Andrew Nachison, of iFOCOS, a Virginia-based think tank which organized a forum in Miami where the findings were presented.
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Nearly half of the 1,979 people who responded to the survey said their primary source of news and information is the Internet, up from 40 percent just a year ago. Less than one third use television to get their news, while 11 percent turn to radio and 10 percent to newspapers.

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:36 AM EST

'Cain

will follow the Bush course.

Bush said the war would cost

$50Billion,

but it will but $3-5Trillion 

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By publius on Mar 5, 2008 12:41 AM EST

Obama's victories have come in caucuses,  reds, and blues that were in the weekly spotlight.

In the big, simultaneous, nationwide battles (Texas pending)  Hillary has beat him.

Everybody votes in November.

Magic fades.

Steel prevails. 

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 12:42 AM EST

Dems better weigh blind faith against who has won the big blues
in this primary season.
 

Aside from being a really great album, Blind Faith is believing that TheClinton's can win the nomination any way short of character assassination, skullduggery, and the subversion of democracy.

As for the "big blues," The Democratic nominee, whomever, will win those. It's strength in the "rotten reds" that will win the presidency for Democrats; and that's where Obama has shown more than The Clintons.

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By puddle on Mar 4, 2008 11:59 PM EST

Magic fades.

Steel prevails.
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Bankers fall

Dreams last

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 12:47 AM EST
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By puddle on Mar 5, 2008 12:00 AM EST

And being snotty and licking azz don't equal steel. . .

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By puddle on Mar 5, 2008 12:01 AM EST

wonderful blog: throws new posts twenty to the rear. . . .

hemorrhoids

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 12:54 AM EST

Obama's victories have come in caucuses,  reds, and blues that were in the weekly spotlight.

I loathe caucuses, but  Obama's wins show that he and his campaign are better at inspiring, organizing, and turning out voters.

Where I was most wrong in all this is that I expected The Clinton machine to dominate the caucuses; but it turned out to be made of paper. Hillary's only strength has ever been name recognition.

In the big, simultaneous, nationwide battles (Texas pending)  Hillary has beat him.

You conveniently forget that Obama has not only won more states than The Clintons, but more votes and delegates as well. It's called "democracy."

Everybody votes in November.

You're making Obama's case since he appeals to GOPs and Indy's more than The Clintons do -- especially in states Hillary has no chance of winning. 

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 12:59 AM EST

...about 75 senators were told in closed session that Saddam Hussein had the means of attacking the eastern seaboard of the U.S. with biological or chemical weapons delivered by unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).[44]

The session must not have been very closed since I heard the same lies on the news. And unlike those senators, I wasn't stupid, craven, or corrupt enough to believe a word of it. 

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By LZ XRAY on Mar 5, 2008 12:12 AM EST

Is Hill the new "Comeback Kid"?

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Mar 5, 2008 12:15 AM EST

I heard a caucus worker from TX saying earlier today that it might be 2 or 3 days before the delegates are awarded, giving HRC the chance to enjoy any 'win' she might have for a bit before the truth in delegates comes out.  perhaps that's why he's lined up the big guns for tomorrow - steal the thunder and then, SLAM, rake in the delegates, too?!

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By Stat Man on Mar 5, 2008 1:05 AM EST

Here is the key to Texas:

 

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_136_county100.htm

 

For some reason there is a lot of votes in Harris county (Houston). 

 

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Mar 5, 2008 12:19 AM EST

Hi everyone :)

Jo I like your way of thinking - hope you're right!


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By publius on Mar 5, 2008 1:05 AM EST

November 08

Hillary holds Gore - Kerry States
Florida - Ohio - Arkansas put her in the White House
Texas and Rocky Mountain states are in play.

McCain retires to Arizona.

Domestic issues and the economy are taken care of.

Obama is saved from losing to McCain or winning only
to ride the economy into the tank and turning it over to
who knows what repug in 2012.    

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By LZ XRAY on Mar 5, 2008 12:21 AM EST

Why can't Obama close the deal?

All these caucus victories, 12 or so victories in a row, but still can't close the deal. That's troubling.

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By Imn2Paine on Mar 5, 2008 1:07 AM EST

Sitka said,

"Hillary's only strength has ever been name recognition."

 

You're right, and I don't know why it hasn't been said before.  Spot on. 

 

 

George Harrison/Jools Holland & His Rh… - Horse to Water

http://hypem.com/search/george%20harrison/1/

 

Night folks.

@12:30am EST 

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 1:14 AM EST

Some polls in Harris County just closed within a half an hour. Lines, lines, lines. Good news for Obama.

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By Karen on Mar 5, 2008 12:28 AM EST

 Now they've started reporting the caucuses... it's a net 10% lead for Barack!

The (C) are the caucuses and the (P) are the primaries...

Reporting TX (C) 5%
Obama 56% Clinton 44%

Reporting TX (P) 66%
Clinton 50% Obama 48%

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 1:16 AM EST

For our naysayer here tonight: from DKos - these are blue state wins.

Obama:
WA, HI, MN, WI, IL, ME, CT, MD, DE, VT

Hillary:
CA, MA, NY, RI, NJ,

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 1:17 AM EST

From DK: Here's TX:

Harris 3.6mn 33% in, 60% Obama
Dallas 2.3mn 71% in, 62% Obama
Tarrant 1.6mn 48% in, 55% Obama
Bexar 1.5mn 55% in, 56% HRC
Travis 900K 78% in, 64% Obama
El Paso 750K 28% in, 70% HRC
Hidalgo 675K 47% in, 73% HRC
Collin 600K 91% in, 57% Obama
Denton 500K 56% in, 56% Obama
Fort Bend 450K 70% in, 63% Obama
Montgomery 380K 96% in, 56% HRC
Cameron 380K 40% in, 68% HRC
Webb 220K 1% in, 77% HRC

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 1:17 AM EST

Hillary holds Gore - Kerry States
Florida - Ohio - Arkansas put her in the White House
Texas and Rocky Mountain states are in play.

That kind of DLC disinspired thinking led to two losses to the biggest buffoon ever to seek the presidency.

Obama is saved from losing to McCain or winning only to ride the economy into the tank and turning it over to who knows what repug in 2012.  

Congratulations! You win the prize for most desperate, dispirited, and delusional reason to continue supporting The Clintons.

 

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By mainefem on Mar 5, 2008 12:28 AM EST

ME's caucus put Obama over the top in delegates for the first time, thanks.

 VT's delegates are also solid (wide margin). We're purple, not blue.

23% Bach. degrees, & poor/working class *older* whiteys. 

"Bigger" isn't necessarily better.  100 pennies equals one dollar.

Obama's still ahead in delegates; and that's what matters.

 Hillary pulls less educated older married white (racist) TX  women (not healthy).

 Read a freakin' book, already.

Big Dog's NAFTA's killed both states; and they support DLC  red phone propaganda? 

 Keep counting delegates, folks.  Stop "emoting." 

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 1:18 AM EST

Stat Man: Your thoughts on the numbers I just posted? Looks like Obama will take Texas.

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By mary vb on Mar 5, 2008 1:20 AM EST

Norah O'Donnell's cackle is insufferable.

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By LZ XRAY on Mar 5, 2008 12:34 AM EST

No matter what happens in the Dem primaries for Obama and Clinton, whether it goes to convention or not, there is one consolation.....their opponent will be a Republican.

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By linda b on Mar 5, 2008 12:30 AM EST

mary, isn't va a blue state win? just askin

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 1:24 AM EST

Norah O'Donnell's cackle is insufferable.

I've noticed it too. The news guys on MSNBC have been gushing over her good looks so much lately that she's acquired a hillaryesque lack of awareness as to how the real world sees her.

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Mar 5, 2008 12:45 AM EST

Ugh they just called TX for Hillary

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 1:35 AM EST
3. linda b

To whom are you speaking? 

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Mar 5, 2008 12:49 AM EST

10pm PST

Still a long way to go folks - chins up!

Obama needs to hold those Superdelegates. She barely won Texas.

Hope is still alive!

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Mar 5, 2008 12:50 AM EST

One more thought - I was all set to call her Texas Toast. What a wasted opportunity!

Gotta smile somehow here

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By Susan Rowe on Mar 5, 2008 1:39 AM EST

Ohio's Kucinich in fight for congressional district

http://www.wdtn.com/Global/story.asp?S=7...

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 1:40 AM EST

Why can't Obama close the deal?

He's only running against the owners of the Democratic Party. 

Count the delegates Obama's won and do the math required for the Clintons to overtake him and ask, "How can Hillary ever close the deal?" 

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By linda b on Mar 5, 2008 12:50 AM EST

they called texas for clinton but no counts. and the caucuses are not over. clinton does not have the delegates.

do the news media know how this is done?

oh, rupert murdoch is a hillary guy.

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By seashell on Mar 5, 2008 1:06 AM EST

Sharon Roach: You can be spiritual without the church (7 comments) You can worship God through nature just as you can slap a tambourine in a choir stand. You can find truth in all of this creation not just in one book.It's time to come out the denominational and religious boxes and begin to experience God for yourself not according to what someone else says.

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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 1:57 AM EST
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By Sitka on Mar 5, 2008 1:58 AM EST
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By seashell on Mar 5, 2008 1:09 AM EST

The Oil Drum | Bread and Oil: Rising Food Prices and the Middle East The use of food crops for biofuels is one of the key factors driving a dramatic increase in the global price of cereals. Biofuels could make food too costly for millions of poor in the Middle East, and destabilise the region which supplies most of the world's oil exports.

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By audrey.nc on Mar 5, 2008 2:10 AM EST


Our vic wulsin won in her district in Cincy. She'll face nasty Jean schmit. wulsin almost beat her last time. There were a lot of smears against Wulsin, which were never answered on TV, probably from lack of funds, but the voters evidently saw them for what they were. Dr. Vic Wulsin should get some help from us in the general....we need to get rid of Schmit.

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By audrey.nc on Mar 5, 2008 2:24 AM EST


Some Dem (if we don't blow it) will be elected i Nov., and someone will be the heartbeat away from the candidate. I want the one a hearbeat away to be Howard Dean. We need to start talking about it. It's our only chance of keeping the Dems pointed toward a progressive goal, and not continuing the Repug lite slide.

OBAMA/DEAN....cLINTON/DEAN

we have what they both need to win in Nov. if we're willing to hold out.

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By puddle on Mar 5, 2008 1:55 AM EST
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By puddle on Mar 5, 2008 1:56 AM EST

I wouldn't vote for Clinton even if Dean were her vp

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By seashell on Mar 5, 2008 2:00 AM EST

Audrey, I second that

???/Dean 

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