First....................again

Good work Danny.

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/24044#comment-1174702

old thread

Michael Ellis
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Mike, you seem to have the same reticence towards saying "Dean is first" that many men have to saying "I love you" to their wives 

I love you and Deans are first.

I just sent off my first round of emails to elected dems in Va to be a Barack delegate at the national convention. We shall see.

Scary diary on KOS

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3...

Something BIG Is Cooking In The Middle East
by IndianaDemocrat

Sat Mar 01, 2008 at 12:58:17 PM PST

I know there has been a lot of noise usually indicating activity at Camp Blanding, our N'al Guard camp nearby. Also someone prolly Monica reporting the big ship being positioned over there w/o sailors was it?

Howard Dean is first (if I'm being kicked up the thread).

"I love you and Deans are first."

Too sweet. Love it. Good luck, Linda.
A fine delegate you'll be.

Thanks to you, Linda,

The sooner we get Obama to win and start the general campaign, the better our chances in the Fall.  It may not be a shoe-in.  The scurrelous, fabricated insinuations, and innuendoes of the Zionist-right supporting Jewish groups, in partnership with the racist White-right groups, and the Religious Right "Holy War" mentality, are samples of the battle ahead.

People motivated by religious, racial, and ethnic ideology are the worst kinds of enemies.  In their blindness, they can rationalize the most immoral, unscrupulous means to  attain their ends.

UN Security Council meeting at 7 o'clock tonight re: Palestine. from "All Things Considered"

People motivated by religious, racial, and ethnic ideology are the worst kinds of enemies.  In their blindness, they can rationalize the most immoral, unscrupulous means to  attain their ends.

Your post is First-class Fred.

Looks like there's not too many bloggers left.  Stick around Danny.  It will take a while to build the blog up to where it used to be.

I watched Howard yesterday at Georgetown U and some today. He's still popular with the young college crowd. Probably always will be.

Is it my imagination or is the "clock" fixed?

Obama has nearly identical appeal to that of Howard. . . . It's okay for Howard, but not for Barack?"

How many of the screaming Dean supporters knew much about HIM?  On this blog, yes....I, myself, knew little about him before I jumped on his bandwagon...have to admit that.  And then what I learned just got better.  For me, with BO, the more I learn, the more skeptical I become.  But we'll see... 

I also think HC could stand up to Rove better than BO and now one of my main concerns is who can win the gen'l?  The repugs must not win, must not.   Rove has the FOX bully pulpit and he'll use it.  If OR has any say in this, I will have to know who the VP choices are before I vote and even then I may not.

They are miles ahead of McC and miles behind Gore, Dean, etc etc.  What a shame. 

gone again.

Oh, and at the Dean rally here that Sept., I saw mostly adults, few blacks, few teens and pre-teens.  And I was one of the monitors doing crowd control, which didn't need controlling.  :-)  Did Dean have SS protection that summer?  Dunno.

11.

Joan* In*Florida
Sat, 03/01/08

Your post is First-class Fred.

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Thanks Joan, but it is true. The general election could make the primary look like a day at the beach.

Polls may show Obama beating McCain better than Clinton could, but the polls also show totality of Obama's support, though wider and increasing, is not as solid as the support that Clinton and McCain do have.

Obama won't be swift-boated that easily, but he will have his hands full and they will be hitting him from many sides at once.

Both won't be on the OR ballot by May 25th, seashell.

 Tues., Mar. 4th  is *it.*

Only one, so you can relax in advance. 

You've got Gordon Smith to get rid of. 

Someone is trolling the HEP blog and making really nasty comments.  Plus he has stolen Catreona's identity.  If anybody here wants to help clean up the mess, you would be welcome.

I know, I know, don't feed them.  Sheesh.

15.

seashell :-)
Sat, 03/01/08

How many of the screaming Dean supporters knew much about HIM? On this blog, yes....I, myself, knew little about him before I jumped on his bandwagon...have to admit that. And then what I learned just got better. For me, with BO, the more I learn, the more skeptical I become. But we'll see...

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There's a lot we don't know about Clinton, that maybe the Neocons do know. Like what is in those White House transcripts?

You don't have "fear of the unknown" with Clinton?

We have enough to fear of her from what we do know. Like Whitewater, Beef futures, and Monica Lewinsky (the powder the neocons are keeping dry)

And thank you Danny for your communication between staff and bloggie.

seashell

I don't believe Dean had SS protection, just remembering when he finally had some SS behind him while rallying with Kerry and everyone here had waited so long to see that, but in another context as prez nominee of course.

I don't know what Rove has to do with this. Rovian language and tricks are well known by all now. Obama has handled everything the Clintons and McCain have thrown at him, while Hillary Clinton cried because she hadn't done well in Iowa.

The Repugs have always been hoping Clinton would be the nominee simply because her voting record is so close to that of McCain's and would have no way to argue the war with him. They won't know how to handle Obama except by going negative with well --- refer to Fred's post at #10. Hillary Clinton does not have the fortitude to stand that kind of pressure.

Contrary to most, I do NOT think she would make a good president or even a fair president. It would be the same old lobbyist run Washington we have seen for too long.

bbl

21.

Joan* In*Florida
Sat, 03/01/08

seashell
====================

The biggest problem with Clinton being President is her entrenchment with corporate special interests, a huge obstacle to changing health care and the preventing chronic degenerative disease incidence growth through regulation of toxins.

Last night Joe Trippi explained the limits of Clinton's money support rests in the big donors (her biggest contributors) have maxed out on their federal limit of $2000, whereas Obama's supporters are 90% common people who've only contributed an average of $75, so they can keep on giving and will probably never reach their limit.

************* 

by dem dem, Sat Mar 01, 2008 at 12:12:52 PM EST

March 1, 2008
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/820948,CST-NWS-sweet01.article

BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist blogs.suntimes.com/sweet

SAN ANTONIO -- The trial of alleged influence peddler Tony Rezko starts Monday in Chicago, and the Clinton campaign Friday said the number of questions still unanswered about the relationship between Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Rezko are "staggering."

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/1/121252/8570#here 

Everyone has opinions these days...

*********************** 

Obama: A Thin Record For a Bridge Builder



By David Ignatius
Sunday, March 2, 2008; Page B07

Hillary Clinton has been trying to make a point about Barack Obama that deserves one last careful look before Tuesday's probably decisive Democratic primaries: If Obama truly intends to unite America across party lines and break the Washington logjam, then why has he shown so little interest or aptitude for the hard work of bipartisan government?

This is the real "Where's the beef?" about Obama, and it still doesn't have a good answer. He gives a great speech, and he promises that he can heal the terrible partisan divisions that have enfeebled American politics over the past decade. This is a message of hope that the country clearly wants to hear.

But can he do it? The record is mixed, but it's fair to say that Obama has not shown much willingness to take risks or make enemies to try to restore a working center in Washington.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/29/AR2008022902784.html 

So how big is this Rezko thing?  Could he lose the gen'l?

gone again 

17.

I have no fear of losing the general election Fred.

Too many voters are sick and tired of the war McCain wants to keep going for years on end.

Too many voters are not getting the benefit of this sick economy they know Repugs in power will not do much, if anything about.

Too many voters are more frightened of our huge debt than of any unknown terrorist strikes.

Too many voters will be enlightened as to how the Repugs have ignored and failed or refused to do anything at all about protecting our country from terrorists.

Too many voters want health insurance and they know they won't get it with the  Repugs in the WH.

Too many voters are worried about having Social Security and/or their pensions when they retire and they know SS is not safe with a Repug in the WH.

Too  many voters value the environment, the wildlife, clean water, clean air and National Forests the Repugs refuse to protect.

Too many voters want something want global warming addressed seriously and Republicans have not addressed the issue at all, much less made any promises. 

Too many voters are ashamed at what a Repug WH has already done to our standing in the global community and will not trust another one to be able to turn it around.

Past history of what the Repugs have just done to our country in the last eight years will play a huge roll in the general election. Their voter concerns may be much greater than whether a gay couple get rights or a next door neighbor's daughter has an abortion. Things have changed. Voters have changed, The Republicans have not.

 Not quite gone. "You've got Gordon Smith to get rid of."

True and his 2 opponents are running, last I saw, at 30 and 35 percent to his 48.  He has a lot of money behind him, like last time, but we'll try.  I will work a bit to get rid of him, but as I said, I'm not well suited to politics.  But I really dislike Smith and am motivated.

I also think HC could stand up to Rove better than BO and now one of my main concerns is who can win the gen'l?

Please don't make me dig up your old posts where you claimed that Hillary is "unelectable."

(Posts which I refuted, BTW.) 

Joan, I hope you're right.  We need two things to happen.

1.  The youth turn out.

2.  People ignore the fear card

(and we need to NOT have a false flag event) 

now really gone  ...  I hope. 

So how big is this Rezko thing?

For whom?

Obama: A Thin Record For a Bridge Builder

Ask Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd or John Kerry if Obama has been a "Bridge Builder" in the Senate since he came there and they will give a much different story which we have already heard from them, especially Kennedy.

For me, with BO, the more I learn, the more skeptical I become.

Based on what you post here, it's pretty obvious that all you know about Obama comes from the Clinton campaign. 

26.

seashell :-)
Sat, 03/01/08

Obama is still ducking 'staggering' number of questions on his ties to indicted fund-raiser

=======================

"ties"??? who doesn't have questionable "ties"?

He should duck the questions, they are frivolous red-herrings.

These are trivial "gotchas" in the bigger picture of who's got who by the "who know whats" - Clinton has the most obligations, big time, by far.

30.

seashell :-)
Sat, 03/01/08

Not quite gone. "You've got Gordon Smith to get rid of."

================
Smith won't be easy to beat because he is smart and understands Oregonians and how they think. He can be moderate, defying his own party in Washington, when he sees it responds to his constituency. He and Wyden sometimes partner on legislation.

Obama is still ducking 'staggering' number of questions on his ties to indicted fund-raiser

I keep track of the news better than many and I have no idea what these "staggering" questions are. When someone refers to something, but can't even say what it is, you can rest assured it's just a load of bull.....oney. 

29.

Joan* In*Florida
Sat, 03/01/08

I have no fear of losing the general election Fred

=====================

Neither did Hillary. Overconfidence is the poison of politics.

Anything can happen in politics. McCain is enough of a maverick, and hated by enough extremists, that he can package himself as different from Bush, a new improved kind of conservative.

Couple that with a major snafu or contrived scandal on the Democratic side at the eleventh hour and Mc Cain could win by a nose.

RHETORIC: Clinton claims she is better qualified to answer the phone at the White House

From her campaign's conference call yesterday:
It was, in this reporter's opinion, the most interesting moment in today's Clinton campaign phoner with reporters. Responding to the release of HRC's new TX TV ad, which asserts in no subtle terms that only she has the experience to deal with a major world crisis, and, relatedly, to keep your children safe, Slate's John Dickerson asked the obvious question: "What foreign policy moment would you point to in Hillary's career where she's been tested by crisis?" he said. Silence on the call. You could've knit a sweater in the time it took the usually verbose team of Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson and Lee Feinstein, Clinton's national security director, to find a cogent answer. And what they came up with was weak -- that she's been endorsed by many high ranking members of the uniformed military. Take a listen... [Hotline, 2/29/08]

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

That's not my point.

You'll have *either* Hillary or Obama on your May 25th primary ballot.

 Not both.

So, all the hand-wringing can stop.

It's all over Tues. for one of them.

GOTV

Gordon, Sununu, Collins, & Coleman are 4 of the 5 top vulnerable Sens.; and their races will be in the national spotlight.

Go, Tom!

Hillary Banks On Fearmongering As Key To Tuesday Victories

RHETORIC: Clinton claims she was integral in the Northern Ireland peace process and Kosovo

FACT: Clinton did not have an integral role and has been repeatedly called out for exaggerating her foreign policy experience

." Hillary is making a lot more of her Northern Ireland role on the campaign trail than she did in her memoir "Living History." As the Boston Globe recently noted, her stories of bringing Protestant and Catholic women together have become more dramatic with each retelling. The claim that she brought Catholics and Protestants together "for the first time" seems dubious. This would not be the first time that she has mixed up her chronology. [Washington Post, Fact Checker, 1/10/08]

The following link explains HRCs exaggerated claims to foreign policy experience.

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/

Sitka at 18, is that a picture of Rezko with Hill and Bill???

I don't know what he looks like. I do know that influence peddlers peddle their influence all over the place and it wouldn't surprise me that any Obama problem will be counterweighted by a Hill 'n' Bill problem.

Danny, you are doing a very good job! It's nice to have top posts that aren't, well, weird. And we notice even when we fail to discuss them, which is just part of the culture here, like "w00t".

Thanks!

-- volney

I'm not about to miss Obama & Tom packing The Mecca--wow.

 It's one mi. from me.

In Suzie-Q's hometown. She's very thin-skinned.

People are still buzzing about it.

Collins is *very* vulnerable.

The RNC has few resources; and her state party is in the hole, financially.

 Resources will plump up after Tues. for the top 5 Sen. races.

"Polls" this early mean squat.

Obama can easily hit NH & ME on a regular basis. (proximity). 

 Nothing happens here until Memorial Day w/the locals (politically), so the office will be open up here in CD#2 by then.

Wonder Bread ® ME is Obama country, for sure.

new thread

seashell,

Rezko was over 17 years ago.  Obama is not named in the indictment.  Obama has already said he was boneheaded about the property purchase. He made a mistake, he has admitted it.

Also why is there a photo of Bill and HRC standing with Rezko in front of the American flag when she claims she has never met him?

What I want to know is why is HRC keeping 170,000 given her by a company that is being accused of sexual harrassment of their women employees.  Also why is this not being covered by the MSM?  How can she claim she helps women?

Why did she use a child in a fear ad when she claims she is a protector of children?

Why in that disgusting Jack Nickolson video did she use that it is sexy to salute a woman if she is not pandering for women votes?

Why did she use a child in a fear ad when she claims she is a protector of children?

 Unless they're poor.

 Hillary's been *married* to a sexual harasser for 35 yrs.--doesn't seem to be a huge deal to her.

Idiot. 

 Her "faith" saved her.  [Pass me a barf bag].

For gawds's sake - Hillary's fundraiser Norman Hsu is in prison. How do you like them apples, seashell? Rezko is a non-issue. Please move on.

I'm cranky after sitting in the rain all afternoon. But my little mighty mite dominated the game so it was worth it. ;-)

Hillary's done *nothing* for women while in the Senate (aside from damage).

She's the triangulated equivalent of Susan Collins.

She'd make a suitable Rockefeller Republican.

Kyl-Lieberman Amendment, anyone? 

 NOT a feminist, by any stretch of the imagination.

A warmongering enabler.

Occupations & wars are hardly friendly to women & children (in combat, or those who live in Iraq & Afghanistan). 

 TX, OH, VT, & RI voters will be "The Deciders" on Tues.

It'll be over by then (delegates & money).

 May 25th in OR is a non-issue (Pres. preference).

seen michael clayton with george clooney,

excellent movie.

off tomorrow to phone for obama.

Obama is "politician #2) on Rezko's current indictment.

Oh and Rezko is hardly over, and 17 years ago? Rezko bought his house for Obama and the next door land and Obama bought a tiny piece , for 105K, more than double market value.

And the trial starts Monday. It's only getting started.

Linda in NM
Sat, 03/01/08

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Oh and Rezko is hardly over, and 17 years ago? Rezko bought his house for Obama and the next door land and Obama bought a tiny piece , for 105K, more than double market value, ****just in 2005.

And the trial starts Monday. It's only getting started.

50. How dare you claim Hillary has done nothing for women. I guess if you just want to ignore the issue and make up stories for Obama, but don't lie about Hillary just to try to make your candidate sound better.

Linda wrote "And the trial starts Monday."

You're either pretending this stuff is important or purposely ignoring Norman Hsu.  Which is it?

Obama has already said he was boneheaded about the property purchase. He made a mistake, he has admitted it.

The only thing really boneheaded about it was that his was the highest bid. 

The reliance on expoliting a land deal for political advantage brings to mind the GOP of the 90's. It didn't work for them either. Just a pathetic example of mudslinging by the losing side.

norman hsu is done. Rezko IS just getting started and Obama has been ducking it all.

And yes, you bet this matters....big time. I know Obama supporters want to wish it away, like Obama's been trying to do, but it will be front and center very soon.

There is SO much to this. Obama got on committes for 3 months just to get REzko jobs, etc. There is alot here. Rezko has been Obama's main money bag man. And, that money man also was doing business with bad guys, crooks and arms dealers. And they met Obama through Rezko. And they have made many deals together. There is so much here. The land deal was just the icing on the cake, and that was done while Rezko was already in trouble and under investigation.

I have no fear of losing the general election

That's great. The last thing we need is more Fraidy-crats like those that have been dominating the party since the DLC took over.

There is alot here.

Apparently not enough to provide a link to a non-biased and reputable source. 

Reposting emails again? 

Linda wrote "norman hsu is done."

How odd.  His apearance before U.S. Magistrate Theodore Katz on charges on 15 counts of mail fraud, wire fraud and violating the Federal Election Campaign Act was last Thursday.

Linda wrote "Rezko has been Obama's main money bag man."

It couldn't have been easy for him to bundle more than one million individual contributors.  I'm impressed.

In the mean time, Hsu raised more than $1.2 million for  Clinton and other Democratic candidates, forcing her campaign to return more than $800,000 to donors.  He has been wanted in California since 1992 because he he fled the state after pleading no contest to grand theft charges.  He posted $2 million bail in August, but  missed a court date September 5 and was arrested in Colorado after attempting suicide.  

Linda wrote "you bet this matters....big time."

This appears to be your way of saying you're purposely ignoring Norman Hsu. 

If you mean Hsu is "done" because he's facing 200 years in prison, I see what you mean.

Sitka wrote "I keep track of the news better than many and I have no idea what these 'staggering' questions are."

To know these, you'd have to keep up with Clinton campaign communications director, Howard Wolfson's conference calls with the media, in which he made the statement "The number of questions that we don’t know the answers to about the relationship between Mr. Rezko and Mr. Obama is staggering."

tom, I understand you are desperately trying to change the subject of Obama's 20 year friend and backer of whom he had many dealings with from business, personal, fundraising, favors, etc., on a trial just getting ready to start on his first charges, Obama is named as politician #2 and it is going to be a long drawn out mess. The papers were begging Obama to come clean on this long ago. I think you should look in to it, really, for yourself, as you clearly show it will be of importance.

Linda wrote "I understand you are desperately trying to change the subject  . . ."

And here I thought the subject you were trying to emphasize was the ties of the Democratic presidential candidates to contributors involved in illegal activities, including contributions made in violation of the Federal Election Campaign Act.  You said "you bet this matters....big time."  You sure had me going there for a minute.

61. Gee, Sitka, can't keep track. Half the ones say, we can find our own links, the other complain for them, but then half of those complain after you post the link.

Sure, I'll bite.

There is just sooooo much. And many have been posted. And you a whiz at googling could pull up a boat load, but sure, I'll humor you.


WOW...just going to the Sun Times right now, this is on the front page.

Seeing red, Rezko in Texas
Lynn Sweet: The trial of alleged influence peddler Tony Rezko starts Monday in Chicago, and the Clinton campaign Friday said the number of questions still unanswered about the relationship between Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Rezko are "staggering."

New: Clinton rallies for Texas two-step

Gov's office releases 2 U.S. subpoenas

Rezko's billionaire buddy

Feds hit Rezko's ties to gov's office

http://www.suntimes.com/index.html


Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/wo...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/7...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news...

Rezko lawyers attack star witness Levine

Obama, Blagojevich surface in Rezko case

Linda wrote "WOW...just going to the Sun Times right now, this is on the front page."

Now Wolfson has you and Lynn Sweet to help direct all the questions he had to field about Hsu towards Obama about Rezko, the person who Clinton, according to her, has never met. 

Thanks for showing that the description of "staggering" questions about Rezko and Obama came from the Clinton campaign....

the Clinton campaign Friday said the number of questions still unanswered about the relationship between Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Rezko are "staggering."

The whole piece is just a smear that quotes Clintonoids.

It's also amusing that they have to superimpose a picture of Rezko with Obama, as opposed to the real one of Hillary and Bill with him. 

This is the last desperate lurch of a campaign that doesn't know it's already dead -- and blogger who can't distinguish propaganda from reality.

70.

Sitka

This must be a sign of desperate Obama supporters. All those stories and links from newspapers have nothing to do with the Clinton campaign.

I guess some are actually trying to make the Rezko situation a Clinton creation too. lmao.

You're blind, Linda. That first link you posted contained nothing but quotes of comments from clintonistas. And the others contained no facts about any sort of quid pro quo. Just speculation.

This must be the Clinton's revenge -- to revive very kind of scurrilous attacks that were used against them by the GOP. But they're using them on a fellow Democrat. That's pretty disgusting and it's one reason why more and more Democratic primary voters keep voting for Obama.

Since I prefer any Democrat who didn't vote to invade Iraq over any who didn't, I can only say, "Keep up the good work, Hillary!"

As for you, I must admit complete bafflement at what you have become to be spreading around such Whitewaterish trash like some low-life GOP operative.

What's next -- a blue dress?