Dean is first.

Traitor Greenspan Urges Gulf States To Abandon Dollar

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008

Alan Greenspan has again exposed himself as a traitor working against the interests of the American people by urging Gulf states to abandon the dollar peg, a move that could result in financial chaos and an economic depression in America.

The dollar peg mandates Gulf nations to price their assets in U.S. dollars and follow U.S. monetary policy at a time when the Fed is cutting interest rates, a system that has produced a boom in oil revenues but led to high inflation as the dollar weakens.

"It [de-pegging] is probably the most useful thing that can be done to stop the increasing influence of foreign assets on the monetary system and therefore the monetary base which is basically the major force in inflationary pressures," Greenspan told the Abu Dhabi Corporate Leadership Forum yesterday.

"In the short term free floating … will not fully dissipate inflationary pressure, although it would significantly do so," added Greenspan, giving a green light for Gulf states to drop the dollar peg.

According to Economist editor Pam Woodall, Greenspan’s comments heralded the beginning of the end for the US dollar as the currency of choice for foreign exchange reserves.

"If Asian central banks hold today more than 80 per cent of the global foreign exchange reserves, which indicates the shift of the global economy domination towards Asia, it seems quite awkward that the UAE still maintains the peg of its currency to the US dollar," she told Gulf News.

Greenspan’s zeal to destroy the dollar is evident in numerous public statements he has made predicting the replacement of the dollar with the Euro as the world reserve currency.

The former Fed chairman has repeatedly badmouthed the dollar and hyped the inevitability of economic chaos at a time when market confidence is in the toilet. Greenspan’s rhetoric matches that of the IMF, who in October of last year bizarrely slammed the dollar as "overvalued" at the same time the greenback hit its all time low against the Euro.

A decision on behalf of the Gulf states to abandon the dollar peg would have disastrous consequences for the greenback and the American economy.

Such a move could lead the likes of the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia to diversify their foreign exchange holdings out of dollars. This would amount to a vote of "no confidence" in the dollar and may cause other countries with large dollar reserves, such as China and Japan, to follow suit and begin dumping the greenback en masse.

China has threatened repeatedly to use the "nuclear option" and liquidate its vast holding of US treasuries in response to continued pressure on the Communist state to force a yuan revaluation. According to a widely-read London Telegraph report, such an event "could trigger a dollar crash" and also "cause a spike in US bond yields, hammering the US housing market and perhaps tipping the economy into recession."

Runaway inflation would also ensue, making the cost of living unaffordable to even middle class Americans as food prices skyrocket and international aid organizations like the World Food Programme predict rationing and food riots.

The dollar has held firm against the Euro and recovered some losses against Sterling over the past two months, but it has still lost 12 per cent of its value against the trade-weighted index over the last two years and has plunged by a whopping 60 per cent against the Euro since Bush entered the White House.

Have you ever seen those frog-faced Zionists coming up on the side of national sovereignty? NO! Have you ever seen any good coming out of the Rockefeller Foundation? NO! Check what Rockefeller’s private laboratory deals with. It’s microbiology, viruses, AIDS, aging processes etc. Now why would they be so interested in this since they have never helped anyone?

What the hell are all the people waiting for???!!! The “elites” that rule the whole country are of the worst immoral filth than can ever be! They have NO power as long as the dumbed-down flock doesn’t empower them. They are not only traitors but mass murderers. If people finally woke up that slime of humanity would be arrested and wouldn’t even make it alive to a courtroom. There is enough undeniable evidence against them to shoot them on the spot.

Doomsday” Seed Vault Opens In Norway

Associated Press
February 25, 2008




Gates and Rockefeller connected seed vault opens in Arctic, waiting for the sort of climate change doomsday eugenicists dream about. For more on the seed vault, see F. William Engdahl’s “Doomsday Seed Vault” in the Arctic, TruthNews, December 4, 2007.

(AP) It’s been dubbed a Noah’s Ark for plant life and built to withstand an earthquake or a nuclear strike.

Dug deep into the permafrost of a remote Arctic mountain, Norway has created a “doomsday” vault to protect the world’s seeds from global catastrophe.

The Svalbard Global Seed Vault, a backup to the world’s 1,400 other seed banks, was being officially inaugurated in a ceremony Tuesday on the northern rim of civilization attended by about 150 guests from 33 countries.

The frozen vault has the capacity to store 4.5 million seed samples from around the globe, shielding them from climate change, war, natural disasters and other threats.

“There are not many countries in the world they could have pulled this off,” said Cary Fowler, executive director of project partner the Global Crop Diversity Trust.

Norway owns the vault in Svalbard, a frigid archipelago about 620 miles from the North Pole. The Nordic country paid US $9.1 million for construction, which took less than a year. Other countries can deposit seeds for free and reserve the right to withdraw them upon need.

The operation is funded by the Global Crop Diversity Trust, which was founded by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization and Biodiversity International, a Rome-based research group.

February 26, 2008


What thrilling rallies we've just had in Texas.  First there were the Students for Ron Paul at the University of Texas in Austin.  The media said 4,000 came.  Our people think there were more like 7,000.  In any event, it was a very enthusiastic gathering of our revolutionaries, as even the media admitted.

You will not be surprised to know that the young people there cheered the pure message of liberty:  no preemptive wars, no Federal Reserve, no income tax, no police state, no drug war.  Just American liberty and the Constitution, in the tradition of the framers.

But the rally in Kileen, though much smaller, may have been just as significant.  Kileen is near Fort Hood, and among the 300 people who attended were many active-duty soldiers (though not in uniform) and their families.  Whether it was the young man going back to Iraq for his fourth tour, or the sister of a soldier just killed there, they all wanted change in our foreign policy.  Most heartbreaking was the young mother who asked for a signed copy of the Constitution for her son, "who will never know his dad."  He too was just killed in Iraq.

How can we ask one young American to die for a neocon empire?  The soldiers and their families agree with us, which is why our campaign gets more financial support from active-duty and retired military than all the rest combined.  They want to defend America, not be part of some globalist scheme to take away our country's independence.  And by the way ,at both rallies, nobody was for the monstrous Trans-Texas Corridor or the North American Union.

Coming up soon are the Texas and Ohio primaries, with others like Pennsylvania not long afterwards.  We are contesting every one, and we will be heard at the Republican national convention in Minneapolis and beyond.  A substantial minority of Americans in all parties, not to speak of Independents, agree with you and me.  Until November and beyond, I want to work to turn that minority into a majority, with your help. https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/

Sincerely,

Ron

Wall Street Bank Run

David Ignatius
Washington Post
February 21, 2008




A bank run, April, 1933, during the last Great Depression.

It doesn’t look like an old-fashioned bank run because it involves the biggest financial institutions trading paper assets so complicated that even top executives don’t fully understand the transactions. But that’s what it is — a spreading fear among financial institutions that their brethren can’t be trusted to honor their obligations.

Frightened financiers are pulling back from credit markets — going on strike, if you will — to escape the unraveling daisy chain of securitized assets and promissory notes that binds the global financial system. As each financier tries to protect against the next one’s mistakes, the whole system begins to sag. That’s what we’re seeing now, as credit market troubles spread from bundles of subprime residential mortgages to bundles of other kinds of debt — from student loans to retailers’ receivables to municipal bonds.

Investors are nervous because they aren’t sure how to value these bundles of securitized assets. So buyers stay away, prices fall further, and the damage spreads

Sitka wrote "Unfortunately for that point of view, it's based on the assumption that those who voted for Nader would have voted for Gore otherwise. But that assumption without basis of fact is enough for many to blame Nader for Bush's theft and their own party's deficiencies."

The analysis it's based on is quite factual.  I've discussed this before, but I'll resurrect a little of it for purposes of this discussion.  This is excerpted from Mike Hersh's article dated 8/21/03: 

"Al From of the DLC (Democratic Leadership Council) contends: 

"The assertion that Nader's marginal vote hurt Gore is not borne out by polling data. . . .

"[E]xit polling data shows From is 100% wrong to dismiss Nader as a factor in the final outcome. . . .

"  . . . .

"A closer look shows if Nader wasn't a choice, the 2.7% who supported Nader would have split so Gore would have picked up about 2% more support and Bush would have picked up an additional 1%. In a non-Nader race, Gore would have prevailed over Bush 50% to 49%.

"That result fits the data showing twice as many 2000 Nader voters would have supported Gore rather than Bush. Correcting for rounding errors, exit polls indicate that if only Gore and Bush were running, Nader's votes would have broken down as follows:

1,326,159 (46%) would have picked Gore
   893,716 (31%) would have sat out the election.
   663,080 (23%) would have favored Bush.
2,882,955 (100%) total

"Here are the actual results from the 2000 election:

Gore     50,999,897    48.38%
Bush     50,456,002    47.87%
Nader     2,882,955     2.74%
Total   105,405,100   100.00%*

* Includes all candidates

" . . . .

"Allocating the 2,882,955 Nader votes along established patterns: 46% / 1,326,159 to Gore and 23% / 663,080 to Bush (leaving out the 31% of Nader voters who said they wouldn't have voted at all) shows Gore more than doubling his popular vote margin.

"Taking Nader out of the picture would add 663,079 to Gore's actual 543,895 vote margin for a total of 1,206,974. Adding 0.63% to Gore's 0.51% margin increases it to 1.14%. This calculation understates Gore's increased margin by as much as 300,000 if the 893,716 Nader voters who said they wouldn't vote at all changed their minds and followed the pattern.

"Estimated Vote Totals in Non-Nader race

Gore         52,326,056   49.64%
Bush        51,122,397    48.50%
Neither         893,716    00.84%+
Total      105,405,100  100.00%*

+ Among Nader Voters
* For all candidates

" . . . .

"Gore won Florida by all fair, full vote counts. However, Nader's 'spoiler' efforts there - culminating in his last-ditch, last minute campaign swings - handed Bush the White House by drawing enough votes to cost Gore a clear victory.

"Nader pulled a net estimated 22,422 votes from Gore. That turned a Gore 21,885 vote win into the "official" 537 vote "loss." Gore lost New Hampshire (by 7,211 votes, 1.3%). Nader took triple that margin.

"Gore would have won Florida's 25 electoral votes - and probably New Hampshire's 4 - if Nader hadn't run, or if he hadn't run intentionally helping Bush. Either state's electoral votes added to Gore's 266 "official" total would have given Gore enough to win the White House - 270 (with New Hampshire's) 291 (with Florida's) or 295 with both.

" . . . .

"Nader's total support was small but decisive in such a close race. Nader's efforts cost Gore a clear win in Florida, a likely win in New Hampshire and possibly tipped as many as seven other states to Bush. A Gore victory in any of these states would have prevented the 'recount' controversy and denied Bush his 5-4 Supreme Court selection.

"At the very least, Nader cost Gore Florida's 25 electoral votes. At worst, he cost Gore the 95 electoral votes of as many as nine states. If not for Nader, Gore might have won a mandate for the center / left - a crushing electoral landslide: Gore 361 vs. Bush 176."

Rooney if HQ's actually reads your biggoted posts instead of scrolling like most do, and you get tossed, don't say you weren't warned.

Cut the untruths too Tom. The media recount of Florida's vote showed Gore the actual winner of certified votes. The Supreme Court cost Gore Florida not Nader.

Obama has it in the bag. That is a given. While I am thrilled for all of his supporters, I haven't been smitten on the emotional level I've seen here. I'm not even sure I want to be! Regardless, I'm delighted to see so many happy faces in one place...lol

Aside from "Hope" (frankly, after this last bunch of criminals - I would be hopeful with my dog sitting in the oval office), what is it specifically that everyone expects from an Obama presidency?

What will be the hallmark of his presidency? What realistically will he change?

What are you expecting once the rhetoric dies down?  

12:42 p.m. EST 

Sitka from last thread...

"JONES: Understand this: The Clinton campaign does not condone people putting out pictures that they seem to believe are inappropriate. But let me say this: I have no shame or no problem with people looking at Barack Obama in his native clothing, in the clothing of his country."

And of course, Somalia, where the picture was taken, isn't even a country of ancestry for Obama.

Sitka~ The photo wasn't taken in Somalia, it was taken in Kenya...

"The Associated Press photograph portrays Obama wearing a white turban and a wraparound white robe presented to him by elders in Wajir, in northeastern Kenya. Obama's estranged late father was Kenyan and Obama visited the country in 2006, attracting thousands of well-wishers"...

Phil wrote "The media recount of Florida's vote showed Gore the actual winner of certified votes."

Reading with comprehension: Nader's presence was the reason there was a recount in the first place. 

The photo kerfuffle is such a nonstarter. Why doesn't Obama just say he is proud of his heritage and leave it at that? What is the big deal here? I don't understand the outrage.

1,326,159 (46%) would have picked Gore
   893,716 (31%) would have sat out the election.
   663,080 (23%) would have favored Bush.
2,882,955 (100%) total

Overcoming my distaste for any quote from Al From, these numbers, while probably accurate exit data, only imply that Nader took more votes from Gore than from Bush.

"Nader pulled a net estimated 22,422 votes from Gore. That turned a Gore 21,885 vote win into the "official" 537 vote "loss." Gore lost New Hampshire (by 7,211 votes, 1.3%). Nader took triple that margin.

And this statement doesn't take into account at all the votes the above statement says Nader took from Bush.  

It also neglects the reality that the Bush Mafia rigged the result and would have done whatever it took to ensure the same result with or without Nader.

These numbers put forward by Al From and his slanted interpretation of them lend creedence to the old saw that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

The real problem in 2000 and 2004 wasn't Nader, but the thievery of the Bush Mafia or the failure of Democratic candidates to attract his voters.

5.

former
Tue, 02/26/08
there no hope for the people here, i just post to piss them off, they belive in our goverment and obomba will save them, they get fooled everytime someone tell them what they want to hear, they will fall for anything! so naive that they cant see threw the fog there in,i feel sorry for them if they only new how bad thing ready are.ron paul is america only hope, they will attack you personally but will not read the truth when it in front of there eyes. they like there vaccines and big goverment all they want is freebees health care, they put there faith in man not god. do you listen to alex jones infowar.com?

Kim~ The outrage is Hill trying to portray Barack as a Muslim to stop her campaign bleeding. I've never heard Barack say he wasn't proud of his heritage.

The photo kerfuffle is such a nonstarter. Why doesn't Obama just say he is proud of his heritage and leave it at that? What is the big deal here? I don't understand the outrage.

I think he cuts a rather dashing figure in that costume and would agree he should embrace it.

But what's going on is that "someone" is still trying to instill fear in the hearts of Democrats that Obama will be swiftboated by the GOP if he's the nominee, and the Obama campaign is showing his supporters that he won't be attacked without hitting back fast.

Sitka wrote "[T]his statement doesn't take into account at all the votes the above statement says Nader took from Bush."

Yes it does.  The calculation is Gore's projected net increase over Bush in Florida.

He also wrote that "These numbers put forward by Al From and his slanted interpretation of them lend creedence to the old saw that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"

The article uses polling data to refute Al From's theory, which matches yours.

Aside from "Hope" (frankly, after this last bunch of criminals - I would be hopeful with my dog sitting in the oval office), what is it specifically that everyone expects from an Obama presidency?

What will be the hallmark of his presidency? What realistically will he change?

What are you expecting once the rhetoric dies down?  

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A long string of signed bills passed to him from the Democratic Congress he sweeps in with over 60 Senators, much like Iowa did last session when for the first time in decades we had total control of the agenda.

several hundred thousand in the first appearance he makes in Europe where he promises to return to the international family

long lines of American flags and sirens and cheering crowds as the soldiers return to mainstreet parades

Sitka, you are correct about that one. Obama will be swiftboated by the GOP.  He should have the photo blown up as an enormous backdrop at his next speech. I do believe the phrase "cuts a rather dashing figure" is exactly what he should use.

14.

Phil Specht
Tue, 02/26/08

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Rooney if HQ's actually reads your biggoted posts instead of scrolling like most do, and you get tossed, don't say you weren't warned.
phil i know your a payed blogger!!! do you work for the cia or the military im callin you out,is that a threat? i know you all read it if not you all wouldnt attack me so do what you want specht you make me sick!! what happen to free speech? you all talk a good game but never back it up!

a HOWARDLY to Timothy Horrigan before I forget; good post as well

1:08 PM EST

and we thought we had some heated (virtual) arguments here ?; well, here's one for the books (the "book 'em Dano" book) in Philadelphia:

http://www.phoenixvillenews.com/WebApp/appmanager/JRC/Daily?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pg_article&r21.content=/PVN/_RSSFeed/TopStories/TopStoryList_Story_1643069&r21.pgpath=/PVN/News

Political rage turns violent

CLINTON SUPPORTER ALLEGEDLY STABBED FAMILY MEMBER WHO SUPPORTED OBAMA

By MARGARET GIBBONS, Special to The Phoenix

NORRISTOWN — One man is in jail and another was admitted to the hospital for treatment of a stab wound following a heated argument last week in Upper Providence over Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

“The presidential race has certainly generated a lot of attention and a lot of passion on all sides,” said Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman Monday.

“I have to say this is the most bizarre outcome I’ve seen so far.”

Jose Antonio Ortiz, 28, of the 100 block of Honeylocust Court, Upper Providence, is charged with aggravated assault, simple assault and recklessly endangering another for the Feb. 21 stabbing of his brother-in-law, Sean Shurelds, 42, of Lower Salford.

Ortiz, who has been held in the county jail in lieu of $20,000 cash bail, supported Clinton while Shurelds was defending Obama in the argument.

If convicted on the felony charge of aggravated assault, Ortiz would be barred from voting.

Even more ironic is that, according to county voter registration records, Ortiz is a registered Republican.

The political dispute between the pair took place last Thursday night (Feb. 21) at the home of Ortiz.

...

Shurelds, a registered Democrat who supports Obama, told Ortiz that Obama was whipping Clinton in the contest for the Democratic nomination for U.S. President. Ortiz responded that Obama “was not a realist,” according to the complaint.

...

Who will end the American Empire and its neocon crazies before they end the world?

Paul Craig Roberts
Online Journal
February 26, 2008




Is the new state of Kosovo, as rumors would have it, Richard Perle’s payoff to the Turks, or is the explanation that Serbia, like Palestine, Iraq, and Iran, lacking any international media reach, was easy for Empire Neocons to demonize in order to establish the precedent that Washington decides what territory belongs to whom and who rules it.

The hypocrisy of US government officials is boundless. On February 18, the US government inflamed Serbians by recognizing Muslim separatists in Kosovo, a historic province of Serbia, as an independent country. Two hundred thousand Serbs marched in protest and the US embassy in Belgrade was damaged. Is this surprising? No, not unless you are an official in the American Empire. The notorious Empire Neocon Counsel, Azlmay Khalilzad, Bush’s representative to the UN, declared, "I’m outraged by the mob attack."

What’s an embassy building compared to a province of Serbia, a province that stirs nationalist sentiments associated with the Serbs’ long military struggles with the Turks? Had it not been for the Serbs, Europeans would probably be Turks.

To neocon Khalilzad a province of Serbia is nothing. It is merely real estate to be given away by US recognition bestowed on a breakaway movement led by what some consider to be a gang of Muslim drug runners.

Secretary of State Condi Rice also found the Serbian response to the US giving away part of their country to be "intolerable."

Former Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke also sees no reason for the Serbs to be upset that America gave away part of their country. He explained away the Serbian protests by declaring, "The Russians are behind this."

We can understand why US diplomacy is a failure when we see our diplomats explaining that, had it not been for the Russians stirring them up, Serbians wouldn’t have noticed the loss of a historic part of their country.

Perhaps Kosovo should have its independence. However, the US government could not have handled the issue in a more provocative way.

Washington has been interfering in Serbian internal affairs since the Clinton administration. Told that Americans had to prevent genocide, few paid enough attention to Washington’s facilitation of the breakup of the Yugoslav state during the 1990s and to the Clinton administration’s bombing and murder of Serbian civilians in order to support Muslim separatists in Kosovo in 1999. Clinton used NATO as cover, but the bombing campaign was not backed by the UN Security Council. Bombs fell on Serbia for 78 days, taking out public infrastructure, bridges, factories, power stations, petrochemical plants, telecommunications facilities, markets, refugees, the Chinese Embassy and a passenger train. "Sorry, honey, tell the kids I won’t be home tonight. President Clinton decided to bomb my train." Cluster bombs and depleted uranium were used. Clearly, the US government and its NATO puppets were guilty of war crimes under the Nuremberg standard.

Americans were told by an obedient media that the bombings were necessary in order to prevent Yugoslav leader, Slobodan Milosevic, from committing war crimes against the separatists who were stealing part of his country. After Clinton’s bombings intimidated the Serbian political establishment, Milosevic was turned out of office and handed over to the Americans for a payment of several hundred million dollars and delivered to the Hague for trial as a war criminal.

Milosevic represented himself at his trial and was more than a match for the trumped up charges. Unfortunately, he died in prison. Many believe he was helped on his way by an embarrassed American Empire unable to convict him.

What is the US government’s secret agenda in the Balkans? Why is the US government on the side of Muslims intent on severing Kosovo from Serbia? What is being served by creating a new Muslim state closer to Europe?

Whose interests are being served by Washington? Clearly, not our own. Or Europe’s.

And, please, none of that BS about "building freedom and democracy." As one of England’s most famous conservatives, Peregrine Worsthorne, wrote on February 20, America’s reputation as the West’s conscience is fatally weakened."

Supposedly our time is the era of globalism and one worldism. Ancient European nationalities are dissolving into the European Union, a new super state. US corporations now have transnational interests devoid of any national loyalties. Yet, the US is hard at work dissolving a small Balkan state into even smaller constituent parts. Why is this happening? Why did Bush order US puppets in Britain, France and Germany to instantly recognize the historic Serbian province as a new Muslim state?

Is the new state of Kosovo, as rumors would have it, Richard Perle’s payoff to the Turks, or is the explanation that Serbia, like Palestine, Iraq, and Iran, lacking any international media reach, was easy for Empire Neocons to demonize in order to establish the precedent that Washington decides what territory belongs to whom and who rules it. Clinton’s bombing of Serbia was a precedent for Bush’s bombing of Afghanistan and Iraq and now Africa and tomorrow Iran and Syria.

The day the Empire Crazies bomb Russia or China, we are all fried.

Be a macho super patriot, believe your government, help to fry the world. It’s the American way.

The Latest Fad in Government Thievery

Thomas DiLorenzo
LRC Blog
February 25, 2008

The local media in Balimore have run quite a few stories recently about dozens of citizens who are willing to go to court over fake parking tickets. This is when you return to your car parked on a city street with a half hour or more still on the meter, and a “time expired” ticket already on your windshield. The cops say they’re “looking into it.” (Yeah, as soon as they’re finished looking into all those cop-taser incidents).

But there can never be enough money for government, whose motto is: You’ve got it, and we want it. The latest racket is for the tax collectors (oops! I mean, “police officers”) to write tickets without even getting up out of their swivel chairs at the station. They simply write tickets to randomly-chosen license plates, as this woman, who left Baltimore more than ten years ago, recently discovered. She was not even a resident of the state of Maryland any longer, and her car was no longer registered in the state, when she got a $23 ticket in 1997 which, with fines and interest, is now up to $1100. She’s being hounded by a collection agency employed by the city government, which has advised her to travel from Florida to contest the eleven-year-old ticket in court.

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Rooney that means you. I have often defended free speech here, but when you step over this line you should expect to get yanked.

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Child Abuse by the Government

Steven Greenhut
Lew Rockwell
February 20, 2008

What kind of society rips a 17-year-old autistic boy from his loving home and places him in a state-run mental institution, where he is given heavy doses of drugs, kept physically restrained, kept away from his family, deprived of books and other mental stimulation and is left alone to rot?

Certainly not a free or humane one.

Yet that’s exactly what has happened to Nate Tseglin, after a teacher called Child Protective Services, the county agency charged with protecting children from many forms of abuse and given power to remove children from their family homes in certain circumstances. The teacher reported seeing self-inflicted scratches on Nate’s body and complained about the doctor-approved arm restraints his parents used to keep Nate from hurting himself. Nate remains in Fairview Developmental Center (formerly Fairview State Hospital) in Costa Mesa, labeled a danger to himself and others, while his parents fight a lonely battle to bring their son back home.

Isn’t there anyone out there who can help them?

After the complaint, social workers intervened and decided that the judgment of a psychologist who examined Nate’s records but never even met the boy trumped a lifetime of treatment and experiences by his parents, Ilya and Riva Tseglin. Without prior notice, “the San Diego Health and Human Services agency social worker, with the aid of law enforcement, forcibly removed a struggling and terrified autistic boy … from his home, while his mother and father, who are Russian Jewish immigrants, and Nate’s younger brother stood by helplessly,” according to the complaint the parents, who have since moved to Irvine to be near Nate, filed with the court.

The forced removal came after the Tseglins came to loggerheads with the government over Nate’s proper treatment. The parents are opposed to the use of psychotropic drugs and argue that Nate has had strong negative reactions to them. They point to success they’ve had with an alternative, holistic approach that focuses on diet and psychiatric counseling. The government disagreed, so it took the boy away from home and initially placed him in a group home – where he had the same negative reaction to the drugs that his parents predicted would happen.

Of course, once social workers are involved in a family, they are reluctant to relinquish their power – something I’ve found in every Child Protective Services case I’ve written about. And even though the court determined “the evidence is clear that the parents have always stood by and tried to help their son,” the court sided with the government. That’s another common theme from these closed family-court proceedings – the social workers’ words are taken as gospel, and the parents are treated like enemies and given little chance to defend themselves.

The details are complicated and discouraging. But, essentially, the parents were cut out of any decision-making regarding their son. They were given only short visits with him. After he ran away from the group home, the government transferred Nate to a mental hospital. The Tseglins say the drugs the hospital gave Nate caused him to have a “grand mal” seizure, and his health has continued to deteriorate while he languishes in a government mental facility. When they visited him over the summer, they found his face swollen. He faded in and out of consciousness and was suffering from convulsions. They believe he has been beaten and are worried about sexual abuse, given that he is housed with the criminally insane.

The Tseglins claim Child Protective Services has told them they have the “wrong set of beliefs” and even threatened to force them to undergo court-ordered psychological evaluation. The agency at one point suspended the parents’ visitations as a way “to assist them in coming to grips regarding their son.” The Tseglins, as former citizens of the Soviet Union, have good reason to be fearful of the authorities. But they tell me that they experienced nothing of this sort in the former communist nation. If their descriptions are correct, then the Soviets weren’t the only ones who know how to create a totalitarian bureaucracy.

The family’s legal argument is persuasive:

“Riva and her husband have cared for Nate, in their home, for his entire life, until he was dragged kicking and screaming away from his parents. … The court found that it was very impressive that the parents ‘were able to maintain Nate in the home for the better part of a decade when he was having some severe behavioral difficulties.’ … The court found further that when the parents put Nate on a ‘more holistic approach’ and ignored the professional opinions, that ‘for a period of time, Nate responded very well to that.’ Even though Nate subsequently deteriorated, the court found that he fared no differently using the more traditional medical approach.’ …

“In short, this case turns on value judgments, such as whether it is preferable for Nate to be maintained in his own home, subject to occasional physical restraint, surrounded by the love and devotion of his parents and brother, or whether Nate should be placed in a locked facility, subject to occasional physical restraint and constant chemical restraint, surrounded by strangers and a burden to the California taxpayer. … The real issue in this case is that the agency and some medical personnel believe their opinions regarding Nate’s treatment are better than the parents’ choices, and have sought the judicial intervention to override the parents’ decisions regarding their son.”

In a free society, individuals and families get to make those judgments and decisions. As the Tseglins argue, “Riva has a right to raise her child, Nate, free from government interference, as long as he is not at risk of physical, sexual or emotional abuse, neglect or exploitation.”

Sure, the state can and does intervene when parents are accused of abusing or neglecting their children. There are many problems and injustices even in those cases, but at least it’s understandable when the government intervenes to protect a potentially threatened child. But in this case, the state is simply saying that it knows best, that no matter how diligently a boy’s parents have worked to provide the best-possible care for him, that officials get the final say. And the government’s choice of mandatory incarceration seems harsh and cruel, which shouldn’t surprise anyone, given the basic nature of government.

At last check, autism is not a crime. It’s time to free Nate Tseglin and return him to the love and care of his parents.

Kim, re: What are you expecting once the rhetoric dies down?

well, Kim, there's a lot I HOPE for and I don't believe that anyone knows quite what to EXPECT from our next leader, whoever that may be.  but I do expect to have a President who truly tries to improve the lives of average Americans - someone who isn't beholden to the RNC or the DLC.  he's the only one in the race you can say that about, you know?  if we have McCain or Clinton it's assured that the worst of the special interests will contimue to prevail.  if we have Obama we might begin to change all that.  jmho.

Phil @ 20

Good to see you, my friend.  Yes, that would definately be a "feel good moment" with the cheering crowds and all...much like those late 40's, early 50's movies I so adore.

I do wonder though, what kind of economic stimulous will occur, how soon, and when manufacturing will return to the US. We've seen how effective Congress was with the windfall profits legislation against the oil companies.

I'm not trying to start a fight about Obama's worth. I'm just starting a discussion on how things will unfold.

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Blood Detecting Cameras in UK
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February 23, 2008

Motorists will be targeted by a new generation of road cameras which work out how many people are in a car by measuring the amount of bodily fluid it contains.

The latest snooping device on the nation’s roads aims to penalise lone drivers who abuse car-sharing lanes, and is part of a Government effort to combat congestion at busy times.

The cameras work by sending an infrared beam through the windscreen of vehicles which detects the unique make-up of blood and water content in human skin.

The system’s inventors believe it will catch out motorists who try to fool existing CCTV road cameras by placing mannequins in passenger seats or fixing photographs to windscreens.

It will at first be used to police car-sharing lanes in Leeds, but councils across the country have already expressed an interest in using them.

Read entire article

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Phil Specht you all are guilty of this too!! so shut up specht

1:13 PM EST

http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0226-03.htm

CONTACT: Fifteen Hundred Feminists for Peace Endorse Barack Obama
Frances Anderson, Media Liason
Cell phone: 917-609-6050
email: feministsforpeaceandobama@gmail.com

NATIONWIDE - February 26 - Feminists across the country have signed onto a statement endorsing Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee for President. In rejecting the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, they cite her "seven year record" as a US Senator in which she not only authorized the Presidential use of force against Iraq, but until quite recently opposed all legislative efforts to bring the war and occupation to an end.

The statement, "Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama," was initially written and signed by a group of 100 New York feminists in the lead-up to the New York state primary. Since then, feminists in other states have taken up the cause, circulating the petition nationwide. The list now comprises over 1,500 signers from around the country representing diverse backgrounds and professions, ranging in age from college students to the retired.

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specht is a payed blogger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil Specht
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Well said Phil,

Gore ran a crapola campaign and his performances in the debates with Bush were pathetic.

By all accounts Gore should have wiped the floor with him........Nader didnt lose the election, Gore did...........even then he didnt, but thats history now.

If anything, that election should have served as wake up call to the Democratic party  and incidentally, Obamas strength doesnt lie with the a-typical democrats but with us Independents.

So, after Joan and Tom have crapped on us enough, I hope they realize that the random element is the Independent.

Jo in Vermont,

Well, we know Hillary is toast. I suppose all we can do is keep a positive mindset toward progress with the next administration. I'm just trying to stimulate some discussion because for the first time in what seems forever, things look to go our way!

It is a pleasure to see you on the blog! 

Yes it does.  The calculation is Gore's projected net increase over Bush in Florida.

No Tom. The first set of national figures included the votes Nader took from bush. The second set of FL figures didn't. That's manipulative.

I'm not accusing you of it, but rather Al From who has made a career of misleading Democrats against their own interests.

For some additiional links on the net neutrality issue see my KOS diary

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/26/7544/56044/526/464261 

"The Associated Press photograph portrays Obama wearing a white turban and a wraparound white robe presented to him by elders in Wajir, in northeastern Kenya. Obama's estranged late father was Kenyan and Obama visited the country in 2006, attracting thousands of well-wishers"...

I must confess guilt of having regurgitated what is obviously mis(or dis)information I heard on TV. Saying Obama was in Somalia at the time could have been intended to associate him with bin Laden and those who killed the US troops in Mogadishu.

Dems will sign on to McCain's 100 year plan

http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio02252008.html

The administration's insistence on permanent occupation has provoked a conflict with more progressive Democrats in Congress. Forty six Democrats (including Barbara Lee, Henry Waxman, Bob Filner, and others) have sent a letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey "demanding transparency on the issue of permanent military bases" (Maya Schenwar, "Congress Ramps Up Fight Against Permanent Iraq Bases, Truthout, 22 February 2008).

Sadly, Democratic Presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have not co-sponsored a new bill, introduced by Representative Barbara Lee, preventing construction or maintenance of permanent military bases in Iraq. Obama and Clinton have been rather vague in terms of their plans for Iraq. Congress's 2008 Iraq spending bill included a requirement prohibiting any plans for permanent bases without Congressional approval; however, neither Clinton nor Obama even bothered to vote on this important bill, as they appeared more interested in campaigning than actively opposing the war.

Either candidate could have voted against the bill and expressed their commitment to cutting off funding for the war, or they could have voted in favor of funding for 2008, while at the very least supporting the bill's prohibition on permanent bases. Their refusal to support a funding cut off or a prohibition on bases raises serious questions their "anti-war" status. While both candidates rhetorically support some sort of short-term reduction in troops, they have been suspiciously opposed to plans for complete withdrawal. They claim to support a withdrawal of combat forces, yet support keeping thousands in Iraq for "counter-terror" operations, perhaps as late as 2012 (or later). How such troops will not constitute a sizable "combat force" in Iraq remains unclear.

Ack, the posts are renumbering themselves - and moving!

I really have been gone a long time.

I do wonder though, what kind of economic stimulous will occur, how soon, and when manufacturing will return to the US

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with the 7% inflation potential from producer prices any stimulus will be difficult without making the problem worse

tanking real estate values would get much worse with a vigorous anti-inflationary effort and realistic interest rates adds to that problem

first a new bankruptcy bill that keeps people in foreclosed homes would be needed just to stop the slide and that allows principle writedowns and mediated interest rates

since expensing of depreciation is already in the stimulus, the next step would be a refundable tax credit for retooling plant and equipment to bring manufacturing jobs back after stopping the bleeding from the Chinese manipulation of their currency

a national health care plan would help competitiveness from our current position

a new green energy economy will need manufacturing, as would a vigorus infrastructure enhancement program

all are a part of Obama's plan and would be adding jobs within 18 months

summer of 2010 looks like a likely timing for a return to a growing economy 

The problem with the photo Kerfuffle is that somebody can't tell the difference between Somalia, where it was supposedly taken, and Kenya, where his father was born and some people are asking him to be proud of his native garb which, I would guess, would be whatever Hawaiians wear on festive occasions.

The other problem, which is probably minor, is that many African Americans don't like to see their picture in the paper in the first place.  This probably has something to do with the tradition of not picturing blacks in the major media unless there was some derogatory story to report.

The final problem that I see is that it's really rude to distribute pictures of someone without their permission.  If Obama wanted to share pictures of his visits to Africa, he probably would have done so.  Passing around someone else's picture simply demonstrates little regard for a person's right to privacy.  But, we already know that about Republicans, right? 

1:37 PM EST

now the Army is back-tracking and saying that Obama might be right after all:

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/506043.html

Posted on Tue, Feb. 26, 2008 12:23 PM

Gen. George Casey, the Army's chief of staff, said Tuesday he has no reason to doubt Barack Obama's recent account by an Army captain that a rifle platoon in Afghanistan didn't have enough soldiers or weapons.

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During a Democratic debate last week, Obama said an Army captain remembered leading a platoon in Afghanistan that was short on men, ammunition and humvees.

"They were actually capturing Taliban weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief," Obama said.

Obama's account prompted denials from the Pentagon. In a letter to Obama, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., demanded the name and whereabouts of the captain so he could investigate the matter.

Obama campaign has declined to release the name of the captain, citing the soldier's privacy.

"I find that account pretty hard to imagine," said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman after the debate.

Casey said the Army has purposefully not tried to seek out the captain individually. But he did contact the platoon's brigade commander, which belonged to the 10th Mountain Division, and reviewed the division's readiness reports.

Casey said the brigade was manned at 100 percent during its entire deployment, but that it is possible a particular platoon within the brigade was not manned at the desired level.

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senator john warner hospitalized with heart problems.

please recommend

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/23994...

Phil, please ignore the troll. You have more important things to do.............................like advising me on how to become a delegate to the  national convention.

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DANIEL ROONEY
Tue, 02/26/08

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Daniel,

Well, I may understand your frustration, I’m periodically frustrated too, but I don’t think to stay in that mood for too long may help.

Changes we all anticipating is not a matter of any single mood but rather tens and hundreds of millions of them.
I think I can manage somehow to differentiate between sincere confusion and anything else.
Yes, many people here are confused (for generations!). Many do want and do believe in “governmental freebees” but to say that they are “paid bloggers”..., lol, - that’s a slightly too much.

I wish your change in mood will happen rather sooner than later, and btw, I do not believe in god too but in man, in People.

Denver Post   |   February 25, 2008 11:48 PM

Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee on Monday endorsed a proposed Colorado Human Life Amendment that would define personhood as a fertilized egg.

The former Arkansas governor and Baptist minister also supports a human-life amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Huckabee spoke favorably about the Colorado ballot initiative, sponsored by 20-year-old Kristi Burton and her Colorado for Equal Rights group, during his Friday visit to Colorado Springs.

On Monday, Huckabee lent official support to the measure.

"This proposed constitutional amendment will define a person as a human being from the moment life begins at conception," Huckabee said in a statement. ...

Burton's initiative, if approved by voters in November, would extend state constitutional protections to every fertilized egg, guaranteeing the right to life, liberty, equality of justice and due process of law.

Approval would lay the foundation for making abortion illegal in the state.

http://wholetthetruthout.blogspot.com/20...

The other problem, which is probably minor, is that many African Americans don't like to see their picture in the paper in the first place.  This probably has something to do with the tradition of not picturing blacks in the major media unless there was some derogatory story to report.

What?! Oh no, you didn't just say that, Monica. Besides, the man is running for the highest office in the land. I'd say he rather likes his picture in the paper - but only if it's flattering.

Phew busy morning here!

rd to answer you from a few threads back re: Raisin in the Sun

I thought it was a very good adaptation of the play, acted with almost the same passion as the original movie (I have yet to see a stage performance).

As a kid who actually grew up on the South Side of Chicago, and viewed the film in grammar school (progressive school for its time, and still remains that way today), I have to say that back then I didn't quite understand its powerfulness. Unfortunately, it's relevance still remains in some parts of our country but to a far lesser degree (hope!).

I was wary of how Sean Combs would do but he did a great job IMO. I'm not a fan of his but I was very pleased with his and the rest of the casts' performances. And the message still invokes much emotion in me.

(02-26) 09:45 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Sen. John Warner, R-Va., was in a Virginia hospital Tuesday for observation of a heart condition.

Warner, 81, has suffered atrial fibrillation, which can cause an irregular heartbeat, since last fall, his office said. On Monday, he "consulted with the capitol physician, completed his office appointments and left for a scheduled admission to Inova Fairfax Hospital, where he remains for observation," the office said in a statement Tuesday.

Warner's heart rate and rhythm have been normal in recent months, the statement said, but he "recently experienced a return of atrial fibrillation" and is "pursuing a re-evaluation and readjustment of medications." The treatments "require regular monitoring and observation" in a hospital, it said.

Warner, a moderate Republican, recently said he will not seek a sixth term this fall.

Tuesday, February 26, 2008

(02-26) 09:45 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Sen. John Warner, R-Va., was in a Virginia hospital Tuesday for observation of a heart condition.

Warner, 81, has suffered atrial fibrillation, which can cause an irregular heartbeat, since last fall, his office said. On Monday, he "consulted with the capitol physician, completed his office appointments and left for a scheduled admission to Inova Fairfax Hospital, where he remains for observation," the office said in a statement Tuesday.

Warner's heart rate and rhythm have been normal in recent months, the statement said, but he "recently experienced a return of atrial fibrillation" and is "pursuing a re-evaluation and readjustment of medications." The treatments "require regular monitoring and observation" in a hospital, it said.

Warner, a moderate Republican, recently said he will not seek a sixth term this fall.

how in the world did my post come up twice. what is wrong with hq????

what is going on???

2:06 PM EST

Denise -

Thanks for Raisin In The Sun response.

Yeah, I have to admit that Sean's youngish-looking face looked great for the part -- a young man growing into a man, at the end.

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Specht wishful thinking not going to happen! things are going to get worst,dont fall for specht lies he works for black ops, he paid to keep you all in line, he post 24/7 how can you run a farm if you post all the time'The U.S. military must be able to perform the following three fundamental information warfare missions:
1. Protect its own information systems,
2. Attack and influence the information systems of its adversaries, and
3. Leverage U.S. information to 'gain decisive advantage'.
ting all the time?

THE LIE OF THE CENTURY
"All war is based on deception." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/lieoft...

There is nothing new in a government lying to their people to start a war. Indeed because most people prefer living in peace to bloody and horrific death in war, any government that desires to initiate a war usually lies to their people to create the illusion that support for the war is the only possible choice they can make.

President McKinley told the American people that the USS Maine had been sunk in Havana Harbor by a Spanish mine. The American people, outraged by this apparent unprovoked attack, supported the Spanish American War. The Captain of the USS Maine had insisted the ship was sunk by a coal bin explosion, investigations after the war proved that such had indeed been the case. There had been no mine.

Hitler used this principle of lying to his own people to initiate an invasion. He told the people of Germany that Poland had attacked first. The Germans, convinced they were being threatened, followed Hitler into Poland and into World War 2.

FDR claimed Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack. It wasn't. The United States saw war with Japan as the means to get into war with Germany, which Americans opposed. So Roosevelt needed Japan to appear to strike first. Following an 8-step plan devised by the Office of Naval Intelligence, Roosevelt intentionally provoked Japan into the attack. Contrary to the official story, the fleet did not maintain radio silence, but sent messages intercepted and decoded by US intercept stations. Tricked by the lie of a surprise attack, Americans marched off to war.

President Johnson lied about the Gulf of Tonkin to send Americans off to fight in Vietnam. There were no torpedoes in the water in the Gulf. LBJ took advantage of an inexperienced sonar man's report to goad Congress into escalating the Vietnam

It is inescapable historical reality that leaders of nations will lie to their people to trick them into wars they otherwise would have refused. It is not "conspiracy theory" to suggest that leaders of nations lie to trick their people into wars. It is undeniable fact.

This brings us to the present case. Did the government of the United States lie to the American people, more to the point, did President Bush and his Neocon associates lie to Congress, to initiate a war of conquest in Iraq?

This question has been given currency by a memo leaked from inside the British Government which clearly indicates a decision to go to war followed by the "fixing" of information around that policy. This is, as they say, a smoking gun.

But the fact is that long before this memo surfaced, it had become obvious that the US Government, aided by that of Great Britain, was lying to create the public support for a war in Iraq.

First off is Tony Blair's "Dodgy Dossier", a document released by the Prime Minister that made many of the claims used to support the push for war. The dossier soon collapsed when it was revealed that much of it had been plagiarized from a 12-year old student thesis paper!

The contents of the dossier, however much they seemed to create a good case for invasion, were obsolete and outdated. This use of material that could not possibly be relevant at the time is clear proof of a deliberate attempt to deceive.

Then there was the claim about the "Mobile biological weapons laboratories". Proffered in the absence of any real laboratories in the wake of the invasion, photos of these trailers were shown on all the US Mainstream Media, with the claim they while seeming to lack anything suggesting biological processing, these were part of a much larger assembly of multiple trailers that churned out biological weapons of mass destruction.

This claim fell apart when it was revealed that these trailers were nothing more than hydrogen gas generators used to inflate weather balloons. This fact was already known to both the US and UK, as a British company manufactured the units and sold them to Iraq.

Our third piece of evidence consists of documents which President Bush referenced as in his 2003 State of the Union Speech. According to Bush, these documents proved that Iraq was buying tons of uranium oxide, called "Yellow Cake" from Niger. Since Israel had bombed Iraq's nuclear power plant years before, it was claimed that the only reason Saddam would have for buying uranium oxide was to build bombs.

This hoax fell apart fast when it was pointed out that Iraq has a great deal of uranium ore inside their own borders and no need to import any from Niger or anywhere else. The I.A.E.A. then blew the cover off the fraud by announcing that the documents Bush had used were not only forgeries, but too obvious to believe that anyone in the Bush administration did not know they were forgeries!

Along with forged "Yellow Cake" documents and balloon inflators posing as bioweapons labs, the US was shown a steady barrage of spy photos taken from high flying aircraft and spacecraft. On the photos were circles and arrows and labels pointing to various fuzzy white blobs and identifying them as laboratories and storage areas for Saddam's massive weapons of mass destruction program. Nothing in the photos actually suggested what the blobby shapes were and inspections which followed the invasion, all of them turned out to be rather benign. One purported biological weapons lab turned out to be a bakery, and a claimed nuclear facility turned out to be a commercial mushroom farm. Not a single one of the photographed targets proved to be what the labels claimed that they were.

In the end, the real proof that we were lied to about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is that no weapons of mass destruction were ever found. That means that every single piece of paper that purported to prove that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was by default a fraud, a hoax, and a lie. There could be no evidence that supported the theory that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction because Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. In a way, the existance of any faked documents about Iraq's WMDs is actually an admission of guilt. If one is taking the time to create fake documents, the implication is that the faker is already aware that there are no genuine documents.

What the US Government had, ALL that they had, were copied student papers, forged "Yellow Cake" documents, balloon inflators posing as bioweapons labs, and photos with misleading labels on them. And somewhere along the line, someone decided to put those misleading labels on those photos, to pretend that balloon inflators are portable bioweapons labs, and to pass off 12-year old stolen student papers as contemporary analysis. And THAT shows an intention to deceive.

Lawyers call this "Mens Rea", which means "Guilty Mind". TV lawyer shows call it "Malice of forethought". This means that not only did the Bush Administration lie to the people and to the US Congress, but knew they were doing something illegal at the time that they did it.

All the talk about "Intelligence failure" is just another lie. There was no failure. Indeed the Army agents who erroneously claimed that missile tubes were parts for a uranium centrifuge received bonuses, while the Pentagon smeared Hans Blix, and John Bolton orchestrated the firing of Jose Bustani, the director of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, because Bustani was trying to send chemical weapons inspectors to Baghdad.

The President of the United States and his Neocon associates lied to the people of the United States to send them off on a war of conquest.

Defenders of the government will point to the cases listed at the top of the page as proof that lying to the people is a normal part of the leader's job and we should all get used to it. And because "Everybody does it" that we should not single out the present administration. But this is madness. We do not catch all the murderers, yet when we catch a murderer, we deal with them as harshly as possible, in order to deter more murderers.

Right now, we have the criminals at hand. and, while other leaders in history have lied to start wars, for the first time in history, the lie stands exposed while the war started with the lies still rages on, to the death and detriment of our young men and women in uniform. We cannot in good moral conscience ignore this lie, this crime, lest we encourage future leaders to continue to lie to use to send our kids off to pointless wars. Lying to start a war is more than an impeachable offence; it the highest possible crime a government can commit against their own people. Lying to start a war is not only missapropriation of the nation's military and the nation's money under false pretenses, but it is outright murder committed on a massive scale. Lying to start a war is a betrayal of the trust each and every person who serves in the military places in their civilian leadership. By lying to start a war, the Bsuh administration has told the military fatalities and their families that they have no right to know why they were sent to their deaths. It's none of their business.

Our nation is founded on the principle of rule with the consent of the governed. Because We The People do not consent to be lied to, a government that lies rules without the consent of the governed, and ruling without the consent of the governed is slavery.

You should be more than angry. You should be in a rage. You should be in a rage no less than that of the families of those young men and women who have been killed and maimed in this war started with a lie.You need to be in a rage and you need to act on that rage because even as I type these words, the same government that lied about Iraq's nuclear weapons is telling the exact same lies about Iran's nuclear capabilities. The writing is on the wall; having gotten away with lying to start the war in Iraq, the US Government will lie to start a war in Iran, and after that another, and after that another, and another and another and another because as long as you remain silent, and as long as you remain inactive, the liars have no reason to stop.

As long as you remain inactive, the liars have no reason to stop. None.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

Try to see the original, rd, if you can. It's amazing - a young Ruby Dee, Claudia McNeil and Sidney Poitier. Powerful stuff

2:18 p.m. EST  

"The problem with the photo Kerfuffle is that somebody can't tell the difference between Somalia, where it was supposedly taken, and Kenya,"

Monica~ I've not seen anything where it says "Somalia, where it was supposedly taken,"  ...  the AP story says Kenya. I would think Barack and/or his campaign would have clarified this by now because that is a serious misconception.

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In response to Obama's picture, last night Jay Leno showed it and then said something like, "we found a picture of Hillary in her ancestral native garb" and they showed a picure of the wicked witch in the original Wizard of Oz.

Rooney, you are a looney.

linda b
Tue, 02/26/08

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linda b,

I commented about this a few days ago, but I wanted to let you know that we are very aware of the comment-rearrangement problem.  It is annoying and frustrating.  The IT folks are working on it, but it is going to take some time before it is fixed.  They are telling me that it will probably be another month or two before the problems are resolved.  Thanks.

Danny

Communications Director 

2:27 PM EST

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080226/NEWS01/302260085

Last Updated: 2:21 pm | Tuesday, February 26, 2008

After his campaign rally in Cincinnati today, Republican presidential candidate John McCain apologized for remarks by conservative WLW talk show host Bill Cunningham that McCain said he thought were offensive to Democratic candidate Barack Obama.

"I take responsibility and I repudiate what he said," Sen. McCain told reporters after the rally at Memorial Hall in Over-the-Rhine.

Cunningham came out on stage to whip up the crowd as he often does at Republican campaign events in Cincinnati.

He repeatedly referred to Obama using his middle name

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McCain was not on stage when these remarks were made but was told of them later.

"I will not tolerate anything in this campaign that denigrates either Sen. Obama or Sen. (Hillary) Clinton,'' McCain said.

Cunningham said later that he stood by his comments at the rally. He told his listeners: ‘”I’ve had it with McCain. I’m going to throw my support to Hillary Rodham Clinton.”

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Sitka wrote "The first set of national figures included the votes Nader took from bush. The second set of FL figures didn't. That's manipulative."

I'm sorry, but I don't see it.  It's a net gain over Bush, not a gross gain of all Nader votes. Hirsh's calculations have Nader voters who would vote for someone else favoring Gore over Bush by 23%.  The smallest such percentage I've seen is 13%, or 38 for Gore to 25 to Bush.  With just a 13% advantage over Bush of those even bothering to vote for one of the two, Gore would receive 12,000 more votes and a win in Florida.

Danny thanks for the info. I just find it hard to understand why this is happening.

But thanks for the fast answer.

In response to Obama's picture, last night Jay Leno showed it and then said something like, "we found a picture of Hillary in her ancestral native garb" and they showed a picure of the wicked witch in the original Wizard of Oz.

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Darn and I had Letterman on! Kind of.......zzzzzzzz

A caller into our local radio station (rock not talk) this morning was complaining that the late night hosts don't seem to be "making fun" out of Obama and wanted to know why not?

I think there is just better material out there with Hillary and McCain. The old man and the "meeeee!!!"

2:51 PM EST

http://www.wkyc.com/news/rss_article.aspx?ref=RSS&storyid=84021

Kim Wendel

Created: 2/26/2008 2:06:08 PM

Time and seqeunce check

2:52 pm

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Dean
To: Susan Rowe
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:46 PM
Subject: John McCain is breaking the law

Dear Susan,

There was a lot of talk last week about John McCain's blatant hypocrisy on ethics and integrity in Washington.

Here we go again.

McCain is now breaking the law by ignoring the campaign spending restrictions for the Republican primary that came when he asked for federal matching funds -- funds he used as collateral on a loan that helped keep his campaign going.

But now that the lobbyist and special interest money has started pouring into his campaign, he's trying to back out of the promise he made just a few months ago. They're feeding so much cash into his bank account, this "reformer" wants nothing to do with federal campaign finance laws anymore.

That's why today, we're filing a formal complaint with the Federal Election Commission demanding that John McCain be held to the campaign finance laws. Trying to back out shows a total lack of integrity and honesty -- he made a deal with the American people to to abide by the law, and in return, he was guaranteed taxpayer money that he used to back a loan.

Susan, I'd like you to add your name in support of our complaint, and ask as many people as you can to sign on. American taxpayers made a deal with John McCain -- now that he's flush with lobbyist cash, he wants to pretend that it never happened.

Sign on right now:

http://www.democrats.org/McCainBusted

Here's the background on the situation.

A few months ago, John McCain applied for and was approved to receive federal matching funds. Because he couldn't find enough people to fund his campaign, he was also forced to apply for a $4 million line of credit, which he secured by using the federal matching funds as collateral.

By taking the federal funding, he agreed to spend no more than $57 million until the Republican convention. But so far, his campaign has spent at least $49 million -- leaving him with less than $10 million to campaign with through September.

Now that he's won the nomination and has the support of the Republican lobbyist and special interest machine, he's trying to ignore that the whole thing ever happened. He recently wrote a letter to the FEC telling them that he was backing out, even though the FEC is very clear that any request to withdraw from the agreement must be approved; you can't just change your mind and take it back -- legally, you have to be given permission.

McCain isn't asking because he knows he'll never be granted permission, and he doesn't want to have to accept the funding restrictions he agreed to when he used the money as collateral for a loan. He's ripping a page right from George Bush's playbook: ignoring the laws when they aren't convenient and hoping no one will notice.

Stand up and show him that hundreds of thousands of people have noticed -- he can't change the rules in the middle of the game because he doesn't like how things are going for him:

http://www.democrats.org/McCainBusted

Using government programs when it's politically convenient and breaking the rules when it's not ... remind you of anyone?

Just like George Bush, John McCain thinks he's above the law. McCain poses as a reformer, but seems to think reforms apply to everyone but him.

Time to send him a message.

Howard Dean

I want to know where does one sign up to be a "paid" blogger? Rooney has piqued my interest in the idea.

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/23993...

New thread.

Obama: "We're on the same team"
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2...

linda b

you are a case that illustrates why super delegates were created

those that actually run the Party from election to election try to create a level playing field for primary elections so can't be a part of vigorous partisan activity and are at a disadvantage to being elected a national delegate through the pledged allocation process

Iowa provides for the election of one such delegate at our state convention but that election is very competitive

you stand a good chance of being elected at your District level if you survive not being stricken from the approved list by the Obama campaign

Explain your case to a top aide of Kaine or the man himself , or Warner or Webb,(Jim Dean would do too) someone known personally by Obama who can put in a phone call to the head of the Virginia Obama effort to vouch for your loyalty to actually voting for Obama in Denver so you don't get accidentally axed by the super partisan volunteers that might not recognize your loyalty, it doesn't matter who you know who will do it, but someone who will cut through the layers in your behalf, and at the same time have the head of the local Obama group to pass the word up to Obama state HQ's for you too (all of that just to stay on the approved list, but it relays the message you are serious as well)

in reality every delegate is a "super" delegate in that they are not bound to vote for anyone, so the "pledged" delegates have to pass muster with individual campaigns

one of the hoops to jump through

Power outage in Southeast Florida.  Cause unknown, so far.  2 hrs ago