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DFA Asheville Endorsement Process for Candidates for Buncombe County Commission
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Starting today, Asheville Democracy for America invites candidates running in the Democratic primary for the Buncombe County Commission to apply for our endorsement. Our endorsement process will follow these steps:1. DFA Asheville will not formally invite anyone to apply for an endorsement. Instead, candidates must seek our endorsement, though individual members may encourage their preferred candidates to apply. Candidates seeking our endorsement should contact Doug Gibson as soon as possible. 2. All Democratic candidates for Buncombe county commission seeking our endorsement must a) complete and return our questionnaire by midnight on Sunday, March 2, and b) attend, or send a representative to, our March meeting -- 7pm, March 12, at the North Asheville Public Library. (Our questionnaire has been posted here, is available for download here, and will be sent via e-mail upon request.)
3. We also encourage candidates to prepare a brief (2-3 minute) video appeal for those members who can't make the March meeting and wish to participate online. We ask candidates to make them available as YouTube videos (and send us a link) several days before March 12 so we can post them on our group blog.
4. A separate vote will be taken for each candidate seeking our endorsement. Only DFA-Link members who joined before February 5, 2008 will be able to vote. Members will be able to vote at the March meeting and then via e-mail for a week afterward.
5. To receive our endorsement, a candidate must receive at least 3/5 of the total votes cast at the meeting and via e-mail.
We will post our endorsement process for statewide and state legislative primaries soon; we plan on voting on those endorsements at our April meeting. Please note that until May 6, we will only endorse candidates running in contested primaries. At that point we will provide information on our process for endorsing candidates in the general election.
From NARAL -- Obama quotes
"It is not just an issue of choice, but equality and opportunity for all women."
"A woman's ability to decide how many children to have and when, without interference from the government, is one of the most fundamental rights we possess. It is not just an issue of choice, but equality and opportunity for all women.
"I have consistently advocated for reproductive choice and will make preserving women's rights under Roe v. Wade a priority as President. I oppose any constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court's ruling in this case.
"I believe we must work together to reduce the number of unintended pregnancies. I support legislation to expand access to contraception, health information, and preventative services to help reduce unintended pregnancies. That is why I co-sponsored the Prevention First Act of 2007, which will increase funding for family planning and comprehensive sex education that teaches both abstinence and safe sex methods. It will also end insurance discrimination against contraception, improve awareness about emergency contraception, and provide compassionate assistance to rape victims.
"Finally, I support the enactment and enforcement of laws that help prevent violence, intimidation, and harassment directed at reproductive health providers and their patients."
Voting Record:
Sen. Obama received the following scores on NARAL Pro-Choice America's Congressional Record on Choice.
2006: 100 percent
2005: 100 percent
Public Statements about Choice:
A selection of Sen. Obama's public statements on this issue is below.
"You know, I think that most Americans recognize that this is a profoundly difficult issue for the women and families who make these decisions. They don't make them casually. And I trust women to make these decisions in conjunction with their doctors and their families and their clergy."
Not any real difference in Barack or Hillary on this issue, Fred. Not sure how a fella with your beliefs supports either of them.
Hillary on abortion:
http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillar...
Do not miss this video from the FL evolution hearings. Trust me, it is special. I wanted to laugh, but it is sad also.
The SuperDelegate Plot Thickens
We've been wondering ourselves about possible money connections between the Super Delegates and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. And from the fast flying computers at the Center for Responsive Politics we learn some pretty interesting new facts about the money connections between Clinton and Obama and those SuperDelegates.
Here are a few of their findings:...
http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/the_su...
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A representative of the Center for Responsible Politics on Democracy Now! said that the Democratic Candidates take money contributed to their campaigns and pass it through the campaigns of the Super Delegates. Wow! Now that sure is a very interesting rule of the game. How sad and pathetic. The candidates have to take our money to buy the votes of the Super Delegates? We need Clean Money elections. Who comes up with this stuff? The DNC rules are so totally fixed to rig the nomination process for the party insiders. Why do I even bother to vote?
..."Clinton and Obama have contributed almost $900,000 to these Super Delegates. And then we've also found an interesting correlation,that you could predict with about 80 percent certainty which candidate these superdelegates would endorse, based on how much money they've gotten in campaign contributions from them."...
List of money to Superdelegates: These current and former elected officials received campaign contributions from either Obama or Clinton in the 2006 and/or 2008 election cycles: http://www.capitaleye.org/superdelegates...
The national party doesn't want nor does it think it needs any grassroots participation. The Democratic Party should take the word Democratic out of it's name. This is so shameful. I'm very disappointed and disillusioned by the whole secretive process. These lazy greedy self centered people have ruined the Democratic Party and our Democracy. What a joke.
Why are you saying the DNC is shameful, Susan? I must have missed something.
No wonder every hack out there always asks how much money a candidate is willing to spend on a campaign. They know that they're going to have to buy off the party insiders to get noticed.
It might be a good idea for a candidate to start a rumor that they have a million dollars to spend. I bet the DCCC or the DSCC will be calling them up the next day with their hands out offering them their advisors.
It's the rule the party insiders created that is shameful.
Let us hope Edwards stands up and has the courage to fight for what he has said he believes. He needs to endorse before it's too late or not endorse at all.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=...
November 4, 2007
In a Sunday appearance on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," Edwards made clear his belief that Clinton "operates in a corrupt system."
"I think, first of all, that she defends a system that doesn't work in Washington, D.C.," Edwards said. "She thinks it's fine to continue taking lobbyist money. She thinks it's fine to be the biggest recipient of, you know, health insurance money, health industry money, defense money, et cetera. And she says she will be the agent for change. Well, I just don't think that's going to happen."
But when asked if he was implying that Clinton was corrupt, Edwards responded that the political landscape is to blame.
"She operates within a corrupt system and defends it," he said. "By the way, I said this in the debate, and I stand by it: I don't mean to sound holier than thou. I myself have turned my head when I shouldn't have."
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/...
January 5, 2008
Comparing her to the "forces for status quo," Edwards said that Obama "believes deeply in change, and I believe deeply in change. Anytime you speak out for change, this is what happens. The forces for status quo are going to attack."
Edwards also defended Obama against Clinton's charge that Obama has switched his positions on health care and the Patriot Act. "To say that Senator Obama is having a debate with himself from some Associated Press story, I think is just not -- that's not the kind of discussion we should be having."
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http://www.johnedwards.com/news/headline...
Edwards: Status Quo Lost, Change Won
Jan 3, 2008 11:22 PM
Victory over Senator Clinton proves strength of Edwards' message of standing up for the middle class and fighting for real change
Des Moines, Iowa – By standing with John Edwards in his fight for the middle class, the people of Iowa delivered a powerful message tonight that the American people are sick of the status quo and ready for real change. Despite being drastically outspent by Senator Clinton, tonight's results show that more Iowans agreed with John Edwards' vision for change.
"The one thing that's clear from tonight's caucus is that the status quo lost and change won," Edwards said. "The results show that the American people are ready for a president who will stand up to corporate greed and fight for hard-working families, someone who will fix the broken system in Washington and achieve real change in this country.
"Tonight showed that if you're willing to have a little backbone, a little courage, and stand up to corporate greed, we will be unstoppable – no matter how much money is spent," Edwards continued. "The Clinton campaign thought big money would make them inevitable – but despite being dramatically outspent by not one, but two celebrity candidates, we finished a strong second. And now we move on to New Hampshire and the other early states, where the voters will choose who is best suited to bring about the change this country so desperately needs."
Gore emerges as power broker while Clinton hopes for a lifeline
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb...
A cowboy was herding his cattle in a remote pasture when suddenly a Brand new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a 'Brioni' suit, 'Gucci' shoes, 'Ray Ban' sunglasses and 'YSL' tie, leans out the window and asks the cowboy, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?"
The cowboy looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure! Why not? Show me your stuff."
The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his cell phone, and surfs the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite navigation system to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.
The young man opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility. Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses a MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response.
Finally, he prints out a full color report on his Hi-tech miniaturized HP Laser Jet printer and finally turns to the cowboy and says,"You have an exact total of 1586 cows and calves."
"That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves," says the cowboy. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car.
Then the cowboy says to the young man, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your job is, will you give me back that animal you just put in your trunk?"
The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, "Okay, why not?"
"You're a consultant for the Federal Government." says the cowboy.
"Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but how did you guess that?"
"No guessing required." answered the cowboy. "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You tried to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a damn thing about cattle. Now give me back my friggin' DOG."
pustules
Thank you, Susan. BO supporters now know where their money is going and it looks like BO is buying the nomination. This is explosive stuff.
Money to Superdelegates: These current and former elected officials received campaign contributions from either Obama or Clinton in the 2006 and/or 2008 election cycles
Superdelegate
Endorsed
Total from Both
Clinton Total
Obama Total
Rep. Leonard Boswell (IA)
Clinton
$21,500
$2,500
$19,000
Rep. Melissa Bean (IL)
Obama
$21,500
$2,500
$19,000
Rep. Patrick Murphy (PA)
Obama
$21,326
$2,500
$18,826
Sen. Bill Nelson (FL)
Clinton
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Debbie Stabenow (MI)
Clinton
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Robert Menendez (NJ)
Clinton
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (RI)
Clinton
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Rep. Paul Hodes (NH)
Obama
$16,500
$2,500
$14,000
Rep. Michael Arcuri (NY)
Clinton
$15,000
$10,000
$5,000
Sen. Diane Feinstein (CA)
Clinton
$14,200
$10,000
$4,200
Sen. Ted Kennedy (MA)
Obama
$14,200
$10,000
$4,200
Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (NH)
Obama
$14,000
$2,500
$11,500
Gov. Ted Strickland (OH)
Clinton
$10,000
$10,000
$0
Rep. Peter Welch (VT)
Obama
$10,000
$2,500
$7,500
Sen. Ben Nelson (NE)
Obama
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Claire McCaskill (MO)
Obama
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Kent Conrad (ND)
Obama
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Tim Johnson (SD)
Obama
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Rep. Dave Loebsack (IA)
Obama
$9,000
$0
$9,000
Rep. Joe Sestak (PA)
Clinton
$7,500
$2,500
$5,000
Rep. Tim Walz (MN)
Obama
$7,500
$0
$7,500
Rep. Keith Ellison (MN)
Obama
$6,500
$0
$6,500
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (IL)
Obama
$6,100
$0
$6,100
Rep. John Hall (NY)
Clinton
$6,000
$5,000
$1,000
Rep. John Yarmuth (KY)
Obama
$6,000
$0
$6,000
Gov. Ed Rendell (PA)
Clinton
$5,000
$5,000
$0
Gov. Ted Kulongoski (OR)
Clinton
$5,000
$5,000
$0
Rep. Doris Matsui (CA)
Clinton
$5,000
$5,000
$0
Sen. Mark Pryor (AR)
Clinton
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Chris Murphy (CT)
Obama
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Ed Perlmutter (CO)
Obama
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Hank Johnson (GA)
Obama
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Phil Hare (IL)
Obama
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Sen. Dick Durbin (IL)
Obama
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Sen. Hillary Clinton (NY)
Clinton
$4,200
$0
$4,200
Sen. Ted Kennedy (MA)
Obama
$14,200
$10,000
$4,200
Rep. David Scott (GA)
Clinton
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA)
Clinton
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Hilda Solis (CA)
Clinton
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Joe Baca (CA)
Clinton
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Al Green (TX)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Artur Davis (AL)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Barbara Lee (CA)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Bennie Thompson (MS)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Bobby Rush (IL)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Bobby Scott (VA)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Chaka Fattah (PA)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Danny Davis (IL)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Elijah Cummings (MD)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Gwen Moore (WI)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. John Conyers (MI)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Lacy Clay (MO)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Luis Gutierrez (IL)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Sanford Bishop (GA)
Obama
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Sen. Maria Cantwell (WA)
Clinton
$3,000
$0
$3,000
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (IL)
Obama
$1,000
$0
$1,000
Sen. Daniel Akaka (HI)
None
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (MN)
None
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Sherrod Brown (OH)
None
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Bob Casey (PA)
None
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Sen. Robert Byrd (WV)
None
$20,000
$10,000
$10,000
Rep. Bruce Braley (IA)
None
$16,500
$2,500
$14,000
Rep. Baron Hill (IN)
None
$15,000
$2,500
$12,500
Sen. Tom Carper (DE)
None
$14,200
$10,000
$4,200
Rep. Ron Klein (FL)
None
$13,500
$2,500
$11,000
Rep. Chris Carney (PA)
None
$12,500
$0
$12,500
Rep. John Salazar (CO)
None
$11,500
$2,500
$9,000
Rep. Mark Udall (CO)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Rep. Brad Ellsworth (IN)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Rep. Tom Allen (ME)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Rep. Heath Shuler (NC)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Rep. Jason Altmire (PA)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Tom Harkin (IA)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Mary Landrieu (LA)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Ben Cardin (MD)
None
$10,000
$5,000
$5,000
Sen. Carl Levin (MI)
None
$10,000
$0
$10,000
Sen. Jim Webb (VA)
None
$10,000
$5,000
$5,000
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (AZ)
None
$9,000
$0
$9,000
Sen. Max Baucus (MT)
None
$9,000
$0
$9,000
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
None
$9,000
$0
$9,000
Rep. Joe Donnelly (IN)
None
$7,500
$0
$7,500
Rep. Betty Sutton (OH)
None
$7,500
$2,500
$5,000
Rep. Zack Space (OH)
None
$7,500
$0
$7,500
Rep. Chet Edwards (TX)
None
$7,500
$0
$7,500
Rep. Jim Marshall (GA)
None
$7,000
$0
$7,000
Rep. Charlie Wilson (OH)
None
$7,000
$0
$7,000
Rep. Harry Mitchell (AZ)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Jerry McNerney (CA)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Joe Courtney (CT)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Tim Mahoney (FL)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Nancy Boyda (KS)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Niki Tsongas (MA)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. John Spratt (SC)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Nick Lampson (TX)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Rep. Steve Kagen (WI)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Sen. Jon Tester (MT)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Sen. Jack Reed (RI)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (WV)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Gov. Bill Richardson (NM)
None
$5,000
$5,000
$0
Fmr. Rep. Jill Derby (NV)
None
$5,000
$0
$5,000
Sen. Jeff Bingaman (NM)
None
$4,200
$0
$4,200
Rep. Jim Costa (CA)
None
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC)
None
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. Dennis Moore (KS)
None
$4,000
$0
$4,000
Rep. John Barrow (GA)
None
$2,500
$0
$2,500
Rep. Jim Matheson (UT)
None
$2,500
$0
$2,500
Rep. Kathy Castor (FL)
None
$1,000
$0
$1,000
Gov. John Lynch (NH)
None
$500
$500
$0
Total
$903,926
$205,500
$698,426
Sorry everybody. That didn't format well. I feel sorry for the BO supporters who are unwittingly complicit in helping BO buy the nomination for less than a million. Throw both of them out fer god's sake.
This country is unraveling before our eyes and we just kumbaya along.
Time for a popular vote and new candidates.
Total
$903,926 Both HC and BO
$205,500 Given by HC
$698,426 Given by BO
I think Keithie might like to know about this if he doesn't already. This makes the dem party look corrupt, which it is, and makes HC look bad and makes BO look very much worse.
Your votes were not meant to count, folks.
http://www.capitaleye.org/superdelegates.asp
IMO, JE should not endorse. They are both trying to buy the nomination and BO is the worse offender. Run them outta town.
Now maybe Daniel's posts won't be so vilified. This country is like an ostrich, hiding from reality and truth.
Good grief. I wonder if the CMWs will just bury this and the populace can continue to throw its money at the horserace.
Warren Commission, 9/11 Commission....hiding the truth from the public.
Just to jostle your memories.....BO said that if there was "actionable intel" he'd send troops (uninvited) into Pakistan. Am I the only one uncomfortable with this?
I wonder if HC, being a woman, would be as quick as a man to send our youth to their deaths and invade countries.
Perhaps, since there's so little difference between them, we could examine the basic differences between a male and a female mind, heart, soul etc. If women ruled the world kinda thing....just ruminating, but I do like the idea of less testosterone. A lot less.
Again, apologies for the long list...it looked OK until I clicked. But at least, I didn't break bloggie, altho how much worse could it get?
Remember to be nice to seashell. Phil says my vote may be the deciding one. :-) Now I have to run out tomorrow and buy a super delegate.
Good morning, everybody
It's been my position for a long time that no office holder should be able to make donations to another office holder or candidate. Made that observation again when the national candidates started handing out money to our New Hampshire folk, whether it's individually or via the DCCC or DSCC. I call these gifts anticipatory bribes.
Our democracy is clearly still evolving and our notions of ethics need to be fleshed out.
Hillary Clinton, of course, has already made it clear that people giving her money has absolutely no effect on her positions. Being impervious to the will of the people, however expressed, is supposedly a virtue in her book.
I'm reminded that there's a long history in this country of buying votes. Republicans do it perhaps less directly by using our money that we pay in in taxes to reduce the taxes of the more wealthy. Those are also anticipatory bribes, albeit less certain because the Congress might forget to deliver.
That Floridian is a pretty good example of how some of those people talk.
I just want to make the point that the mistake they make arises from the notion that education is about WHAT people think, rather than HOW they acquire information and process it. That's also evident in Daniel's concern about the one world government. The quote he chose about the five year old going to school and having to have his/her world-view changed is non-sensical.
It seems accurate to say that the Council on Foreign Relations is aiming for a world government. The reason they seem to want it is because the total number of people is perceived to be too large to work as a democracy. So, by default, there will have to be a manageable body that gets to take charge. In other words, there will have to be a body of superior folk because on that scale democracy (rule by the people) almost certainly won't work. Besides, the different languages will make democratic deliberations unwieldy.
These same people had high hopes for the European Union and now they've become disillusioned because the EU has adopted some contrary positions which favor the people, rather than the elite.
Everyone see where Castro stepped down?
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Monica Smith
Tue, 02/19/08
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That Floridian is a pretty good example of how some of those people talk.
Wuss wrong with haeeow ah talk, Yankee?
Annilow--nobody said "wrong." I said it was a good example. I also specified "some" because not everyone from the south speaks with a twang. The spouse, for example, is from Louisiana and has no "accent" at all.
Something to brighten your day--
Arrested judge wore dress, women's hosiery
By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
New Hampshire Union Leader Staff
Friday, Feb. 15, 2008
The federal bankruptcy judge who was convicted of DWI in Manchester this week is resigning.
According to a press release issued by the First Circuit federal court in Boston today, Judge Robert Somma will remain on leave until his resignation takes effect on April 1.
An earlier story appears below.
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A Boston-based federal judge wore a black cocktail dress, fish-net stockings and high heels when police arrested him for drunk driving after he rear-ended a pickup truck last week, sources said.
U.S. Bankruptcy Court Judge Robert Somma, 63, struck a plea deal with the city Wednesday in which he pleaded no contest to a first-offense misdemeanor driving while intoxicated charge in Manchester District Court. In exchange, the judge agreed to pay $600 in fines and penalties and a 12-month license suspension, which can be reduced to six months if he proves he successfully completed a driver education and alcohol awareness course, court records show.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/i...
Banks "quietly" borrow $50 billion from Fed: report
Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:47am EST
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Banks in the United States have been quietly borrowing "massive amounts" from the U.S. Federal Reserve in recent weeks, using a new measure the Fed introduced two months ago to help ease the credit crunch, according to a report on the web site of The Financial Times.
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Saw this on Huffpost. This is unsettling.
Monica I often wish I could can my accent -- most of it I can hide but not the 'haeeeow' - that vowel is hard to change -- my own name when I say it comes out Ayan. You need to get with the romance of the area - the wildlife and all. Go rent Crosscreek or read Marjorie Rawlings' book about going down the St. Johns. I have a couple of students who are good ole boys who hunt wild boar and kill it with a knife. I find that rather heroic except they finally 'fessed up the dog (a pit bull of course) goes in first - attacks the boar by the neck. I've been trying to convince them how that's inhumane to the dog. I've given up on arguing about hunting b/c after all I'm a meat eater and those who could stand it have seen the video from the meat packing plant.
Of course some of the wildlife I could live w/o -- geckos, roaches, wood spiders, brown recluses.
travel is not advised over a wide area in Iowa and up into Wisconsin from this last storm that put down a layer of ice under the blowing snow
they have pulled the tow trucks
my brother had to drive across fields and through fences with the big tractor to care for my father as roads are impassable
don't know how that will effect the vote because the cheeseheads will just jump on their snowmobiles, they are flying by my farm like flocks of snowgeese and loving every minute
That is disturbing video from the packing plant. I had to fire an employee on the spot once caught abusing a cow. I have a cow that fell on the ice the same day I did last year and damaged a nerve in her front shoulder and struggles to get up each time, she has turned into a pretty expensive pet, but I will not put her down, as long as she has the will to do it and so give her feed and water even though she can't negotiate the milk parlor, so will never give milk again. Federal rules don't allow injured cows into the food chain and everyone knows the rules, so that packing plant was involved in crimminal behavior and knew it, most such cows become the "animal protein" on the label of your pet food.
Annilow, perhaps you missed it, but I lived in Gainesville from 1977 to 1993 and then in Georgia until 2003. When I moved to Georgia it was simply because I couldn't take Gainesville anymore. The spouse continued to teach at UF and commuted for ten years. The place is corrupt. But, it's not a matter of people taking bribes; it's a matter of people who try to do the right thing (comply with the laws) being targeted for destruction. Or having their friends targeted for destruction.
Phil Specht
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That is disturbing video from the packing plant. I had to fire an employee on the spot once caught abusing a cow.
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Indeed.
When I see videos like that, I can understand more my younger brother's rationale for being a vegetarian.
I'm not one (I like meat, fish, dairy products, etc.) but frankly I don't trust that inspectors from the USDA, etc. are capable of keeping up with ensuring our meat sources in this country is safe. It's a crap shoot everytime you munch on a hamburger or drink milk. I'm glad I don't have a compromised immune system right now because I'd really want to go veggie [smile].
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I must not be up with the lingo {smile}
typo - I'd really want to go veggie
s/b - I'd really want to go vegan
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Oh, before I forget, Edwards just endorsed Obama:
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/shared-gen/blogs/communities/listening_post/
I'm not one (I like meat, fish, dairy products, etc.) but frankly I don't trust that inspectors from the USDA, etc. are capable of keeping up with ensuring our meat sources in this country is safe. It's a crap shoot everytime you munch on a hamburger or drink milk. I'm glad I don't have a compromised immune system right now because I'd really want to go veggie [smile].
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safest in the world though, which is why farmers are pushing so hard for country of origin labeling
who knows what is coming from China?
they got caught in California and paid a very heavy price (but fitting)
after the mob took over the by-product business farmers in some parts of the country have a problem with disposal of animals they put down
there are a lot more meat inspectors than consumer product safety inspectors with childrens toys at least which have killed many more children than unsafe food
Bush is holding up the farm bill to prevent that safety measure and I hear no public outcry.
maybe now
Banks "quietly" borrow $50 billion from Fed: report
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Greenspan called it a $200 Billion dollar problem so we are a quarter of the way through it.
Looking back to 2006, Clinton and Obama supported Joe Lieberman in the primary against Lamont, and then Lamont in the election. Hillary supported the use of cluster bombs in a vote. I am still looking for someone to vote for and will not at this point. Remember there are so many out there who make there living promoting with campaigns, websites, adds, marketing etc. What a sad state with the grassroot for profit politics , the pacs , and blogs for $$$$ , and cronies promoting. Beware when people incorporate and trade mark slogans. Please do not say people should vote for the lesser of two evils. The people should vote , or not vote. The people should march and join in c.d. in D.C. in March. Bring the troops home.
chuck
all the candidates are still on the ballot in Wisconsin so it is a perfect place for a "protest" vote and if larger than the margin of victory will open a few eyes
like in Iowa I just can't see someone who voted for the war winning
speaking of accents
Obama has adopted "regular guy" phrasings
here in Northeast Iowa I shop in LaCrosse when I need wholesale plumbing supplies and at the counter was a guy from MN and another from WI and just from the accent in their banter you could tell which state they were from with a trained ear
everyone else would just note one had on a Vikings sweatshirt and the other a Packers hat
I'm concerned that both Wisconsin and Hawaii allow crossover voting.
The GOP would rather run against Hillary than against Barack. And more to the point, they would love to keep the Dems in turmoil and, I'm sure, pray daily that we end up with a brokered convention.
I sure hope they don't have a plan to turn out en masse for Hill, just to keep the pot boiling.
You know, in retrospect, this whole cramming-up of the early calendar for an early decision just didn't work.
I wish we had a sane system where the primaries were evenly spaced with the smallest states first so that even candidates with very little $$ could get out there and make themselves known, then go to larger and larger states with CA, TX and NY last.
But then that would be too simple, wouldn't it?
BTW, you should see the Ron Paul signs still up, all around these parts with our primary long over. I wonder if he will go third party?
-- volney
#40 Phil , Great point ! I did write in Mickey Mouse rather than not vote once.
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