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Why Inspiration Will Make Obama the Strongest Candidate

Written by: Edwin Rutsch on Feb 16, 2008 3:50 PM EST

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I just read this interesting article in the Huffington Post. It talks about Barack Obama and his ability to inspire.

Why Inspiration Will Make Obama the Strongest Candidate in November
- And a President that Can Lead a Progressive Realignment in America
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/why-inspiration-will-make_b_86844.html

Robert Creamer writes
"Inspiration comes from appeals to values, not ten point plans.

Obama's attraction to swing voters isn't that he promises to "compromise" with the right -- or adopt right wing values. It is that he inspires them with the traditional progressive values:

• That we're all in this together, not all in this alone;
• Unity not division;
• Hope not fear;
• That people are not commodities to be paid what the market will bear and discarded when they aren't needed, but human beings whose happiness and success are the purpose of the economy."

Oakland DFA Organizational Team member talks about Obama's inspiration
Progressive Values: Tara Marchant - Obama - Inspiration


Inspiration and The Art of Living Black
(more, see the videos)


Last year, I did a documentary project on the nature of Inspiration.  Joan and I interviewed 50 black artists who take part in a local exhibit called "The Art of Living Black" (TAOLB). We did interviews  in a workshop process,  asking the artist  about their inspiration experiences. 

See the project and the 160 Youtube video stories we made here.
http://humanityquest.com/themes/inspiration/TAOLB

We plan to set up a workshop process  like this again but using it to explore Progressive Values.  Does anyone on the list want to take part?

Joan Kuenz introduces the interview workshop process.


Inspiration is not a mental thing, it's a felt body experiance.
see it actualized. See Joan and I and the TAOLB artist's act out our inspiration.
 34 Artists Act out Signs of Inspiration

Even More about Inspiration at the: Inspiration Research Project

  -   Dance and Inspiration Video
  -   Inspiration in other Languages and Cultures
  -  and even more...

 

edwin rutsch
What Are Progressive Values? Documentary Project,
and Study Group
http://ProgressiveSpirit.com

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By LZ XRAY on Feb 22, 2008 9:53 PM EST

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk...

NEAR FALLUJA - A suicide bomber killed at least six policemen and wounded nine others when he detonated a vest packed with explosives outside a mosque near Falluja in western Anbar province, police said.

GARMA - A suicide bomber on foot attacked an Iraqi security checkpoint, killing two people and wounding three in Garma, near Falluja, 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad, police said.

ANBAR PROVINCE - One U.S. Marine was killed in a battle with gunmen in Anbar province on Thursday, the U.S. military said.

NEAR FALLUJA - A roadside bomb killed Brigadier-General Abdul Jabbar al-Juboury, head of the Iraqi army's Falluja Brigade, and his driver on Thursday south of Falluja, police said.

NEAR FALLUJA - A parked car bomb killed one man and wounded two others on Thursday near a market in Falluja, police said.

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BAD times return to Anbar, Falluja in particular.

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By seashell on Feb 22, 2008 9:14 PM EST

Howard Dean is first!

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By puddle on Feb 22, 2008 9:23 PM EST

Did a new thread call on the last thread. But it's parked 7 posts from the end, so whether anyone will see it is prolly moot. (or mute, lol!)

liver spots

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By seashell on Feb 22, 2008 9:34 PM EST

Sorry about not going back this time to notify the old thread.  Something was burning on the stove and then I forgot.  What an attention span!

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By on Feb 22, 2008 10:30 PM EST


AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL STORY. AIN'T THE 2ND AMENDMENT GRAND?


SHOOTING IN BUTTE , MONTANA

SHOTGUN PRETEEN VS. ILLEGAL ALIEN HOME INVADERS
BUTTE, MONTANA, NOVEMBER 5, 2006.

TWO ILLEGAL ALIENS, RALPHEL RESINDEZ, 23, AND ENRICO GARZA, 26, PROBABLY
BELIEVED THEY WOULD EASILY OVERPOWER HOME-ALONE 11-YEAR-OLD PATRICIA
HARRINGTON AFTER HER FATHER HAD LEFT THEIR TWO-STORY HOME.

IT SEEMS THE TWO CROOKS NEVER LEARNED TWO THINGS: THEY WERE IN MONTANA AND
PATRICIA HAD BEEN A CLAY SHOOTING CHAMPION SINCE SHE WAS NINE.

PATRICIA WAS IN HER UPSTAIRS ROOM WHEN THE TWO MEN BROKE THROUGH THE FRONT
DOOR OF THE HOUSE. SHE QUICKLY RAN TO HER FATHER'S ROOM AND GRABBED HIS 12
GAUGE MOSSBERG 5 00 SHOTGUN.

RESINDEZ WAS THE FIRST TO GET UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR ONLY TO BE THE FIRST
TO CATCH A NEAR POINT BLANK BLAST OF BUCKSHOT FROM THE 11-YEAR-OLD'S KNEE
CROUCH AIM. HE SUFFERED FATAL WOUNDS TO HIS ABDOMEN AND GENITALS.

WHEN GARZA RAN TO THE FOOT OF THE STAIRS, HE TOOK A BLAST TO THE LEFT
SHOULDER AND STAGGERED OUT INTO THE STREET WHERE HE BLED TO DEATH BEFORE
MEDICAL HELP COULD ARRIVE.

IT WAS FOUND OUT LATER THAT RESINDEZ WAS ARMED WITH A STOLEN 45 CALIBER
HANDGUN HE TOOK FROM ANOTHER HOME INVASION ROBBERY. THAT VICTIM,
50-YEAR-OLD DAVID BURIEN, WAS NOT SO LUCKY. HE DIED FROM STAB WOUNDS TO THE
CHEST.

PATRICIA STAVED OFF A ROBBERY AND POTENTIAL RAPE BECAUSE HER PARENTS
TAUGHT HER HOW TO USE A GUN. HER PARENTS JUST DIDN'T HIDE A GUN IN THE HOUSE
AND NOT EDUCATE HER ON THE POWER THAT A FIREARM PROVIDES.

IGNORANCE CAN BE DEADLY, BUT FORTUNATELY FOR THIS MONTANA FAMILY,
KNOWLEDGE WAS POWER.

TWO ILLEGALS THAT WILL BE SENT BACK....IN A BOX!

BLAMING GUNS FOR VIOLENCE IS LIKE BLAMING SPOONS FOR ROSIE O'DONNELL'S FAT
ASS.

CALLING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT IS LIKE CALLING A DRUG
DEALER AN UNLICENSED PHARMACIST.

EVER WONDER WHY GOOD STUFF LIKE THIS NEVER MAKES NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC,
CNN, OR ABC NEWS....

NOW THAT IS GUN CONTROL!

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By seashell on Feb 22, 2008 9:47 PM EST

Here are some timely quotes by Gerald Jampolsky, one of my favorite authors.

A truly creative person rids him or herself of all self-imposed limitations.
Gerald Jampolsky

Forgiveness means letting go of the past.
Gerald Jampolsky

I can have peace of mind only when I forgive rather than judge.
Gerald Jampolsky

Inner peace can be reached only when we practice forgiveness. Forgiveness is letting go of the past, and is therefore the means for correcting our misperceptions.
Gerald Jampolsky

Love is the total absence of fear. Love asks no questions. Its natural state is one of extension and expansion, not comparison and measurement.
Gerald Jampolsky

Other people do not have to change for us to experience peace of mind.
Gerald Jampolsky

Peace of mind comes from not wanting to change others.
Gerald Jampolsky

The best way to navigate through life is to give up all of our controls.
Gerald Jampolsky

Through our willingness to help others we can learn to be happy rather than depressed.
Gerald Jampolsky

When I am able to resist the temptation to judge others, I can see them as teachers of forgiveness in my life, reminding me that I can only have peace of mind when I forgive rather than judge.
Gerald Jampolsky

You can be right or you can be happy.
Gerald Jampolsky 

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 9:53 PM EST

TWO ILLEGALS THAT WILL BE SENT BACK....IN A BOX!

Now Daniel, could you explain to me why this is a wonderful story?

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By listener on Feb 22, 2008 10:44 PM EST

Gosh, there I was posting over on the last thread all alone,
having missed puddle's note about a new thread.

Forgive me if a repost a few...

 

The National Nurse folks contacted the Health Policy Aides for Obama, Clinton and McCain, asking for a meeting.

Within an hour they had a YES from the Obama folks.

They sent out a second message to the Clinton and McCain people.

The Obama people called to confirm the meeting time.

Still no word from Clinton or McCain.

Now THAT tells me how much Clinton REALLY cares about health care,
and how much Obama really means it that he wants to hear from us
and wants to support our actions!

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By listener on Feb 22, 2008 10:45 PM EST

On the local news tonight they showed Hillary Clinton's
new campaign office in South Burlington, VT and...
AND...it's in the same building as DFA.

That just doesn't seem right!

 

Must be a free country or something! LOL! 

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By listener on Feb 22, 2008 10:46 PM EST

Ally updates may be found at Baby

http://eatapyzch.blogspot.com/ 

Our little sweetie is holding her own, Phil! :-)

 

Ally's Candle Page =

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=ALLYS 

 

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 9:59 PM EST

Today I received my absentee ballot.

I discovered that the town clerk in my town is running for
Lister
Town Clerk
Treasurer

unopposed!

This just didn't seem right so I decided to run as Town Treasurer as a write in.

Seems like I was overcome by the Dean spirit.

I'll let you know how far I'll get with this. It's barely two weeks to election.

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 10:05 PM EST

Kunin and Symington in Vermont are supporting Clinton.

Former Governor and present Speaker of the Vermont House.

 Today I heard from a Vermont Super Delegate that she supports Clinton because she is a woman.

Man, that bothers me.

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By Annilow on Feb 22, 2008 10:11 PM EST

Sunlight - good luck on your run for Treasurer. Keep us posted.

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 10:14 PM EST

 Forgiveness means letting go of the past.
That sounds like: The Nazi's did bad things but let's just forget about it.

 Love asks no questions.
Really? How stupid is that?

 The best way to navigate through life is to give up all of our controls.
Only to be controlled by others?

 You can be right or you can be happy.
That's weird. I'm happy and I'm right. How else could I be happy?

Now, I'm not saying I'm always right~

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By seashell on Feb 22, 2008 10:20 PM EST

Jung's shadow

 

"If you imagine someone who is brave enough to withdraw all his projections, then you get an individual who is conscious of a pretty thick shadow. Such a man has saddled himself with new problems and conflicts. He has become a serious problem to himself, as he is now unable to say that they do this or that, they are wrong, and they must be fought against. He lives in the "House of the Gathering." Such a man knows that whatever is wrong in the world is in himself, and if he only learns to deal with his own shadow he has done something real for the world. He has succeeded in shouldering at least an infinitesimal part of the gigantic, unsolved social problems of our day."
"Psychology and Religion" (1938). In CW 11: Psychology and Religion: West and East. P.140 more Jungian quotes about the shadow here
 http://psikoloji.fisek.com.tr/jung/shadow.htm 

 

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By seashell on Feb 22, 2008 10:21 PM EST

Good for the BO camp, responding so quickly.

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By mary vb on Feb 22, 2008 11:12 PM EST

Vilsack brings up Barack's drug use.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2...

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By on Feb 22, 2008 11:21 PM EST

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Fri, 02/22/08

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TWO ILLEGALS THAT WILL BE SENT BACK....IN A BOX!

Now Daniel, could you explain to me why this is a wonderful story? These two illegals were not able to continue to tear families apart in their crime spree! A knowledgeable young child took action as "fit the crime" in progress.

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 10:32 PM EST

If you imagine someone who is brave enough to withdraw all his projections, then you get an individual who is conscious of a pretty thick shadow.

I can live without that kind of imagination. Thick shadow? Give me a break!

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 10:36 PM EST

These two illegals were not able to continue to tear families apart in their crime spree!

I see.

Now, what has that to do with illegals? You don't think that legals do the same kind of things?

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 10:46 PM EST

This just didn't seem right so I decided to run as Town Treasurer as a write in.        ~sunlight

Bat!  wOOT!  We needs a bat for our sunlight!

Way to go, sunlight.

Hey, maybe you can advocate for broadband from the Treasurer's Office.

Paul McCartney & Wings - Let 'Em In        http://hypem.com/track/493472

Someone's Knockin' At The Door.
Somebody's Ringin' The Bell.
Someone's Knockin' At The Door.
Somebody's Ririgin' The Bell.
Do Me A Favor,
Open The Door And Let 'Em In.

Sister Suzie, Brother John,
Martin Luther, Phil And Don,
Brother Michael, Auntie Gin,
Open The Door And Let 'Em In.

Someone's Knockin' At The Door.
Somebody's Ringin' The Bell.
Someone's Knockin' At The Door.
Somebody's Ringin' The Bell.

Do Me A Favor,
Open The Door And Let 'Em In.

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By * rdorgan on Feb 22, 2008 11:35 PM EST

10:48 PM EST

WhatAre Progressive Vakues -

Good, thoughtful post Why Inspiration Will Make Obama the Strongest Candidate. 

Huffington Post has some great blog entrys.

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By on Feb 22, 2008 11:41 PM EST

Article Archives Listen to Alex Jones Contact TruthNews
Screw the Voters. Let Superdelegates Decide!
Paul Rockwell
Common Dreams
February 18, 2008

Millions of Americans, many of them first-time activists, voted for Barack Obama in the Democratic Party primary. They voted in good faith, expecting their votes to be counted and respected.

Now many young voters are discovering that there are two kinds of delegates at Democratic Party Conventions: real delegates (duly elected from the states) and fake delegates, delegates artificially created by the Democratic National Committee. These delegates, who lack direct support from primary voters, are called superdelegates.

With over 200,000 signatures, a Move-On petition to Democratic Party superdelegates reads: “The superdelegates should let the voters decide between Clinton and Obama. Then support the people’s choice.”

The seating of delegates at Democratic Party conventions has often been a source of conflict. In 1964, Fanny Lou Hamer led a sit-in on the convention floor. The Mississippi Freedom Democrats wanted nothing more than a few convention seats-seats to which they were entitled by open, fair elections in their home state. Walter Mondale, who was to become the architect of the current superdelgate system, refused to seat the elected delegates of color in 1964. Wait until 1968, Mondale insisted, as the representative of the Credentials Committee.

The non-violent mass movements of the ’60s, the passage of the Voting Rights Act, the rise of the feminist movement, the change in voting age, the anti-nuclear campaigns- all generated a groundswell of new voters in Democratic party politics. However, far from welcoming the newly enfranchised activists, party leaders were filled with fear-class and race fear. They never accepted the democratic reforms enacted in the 1970s, when youth and people of color participated for the first time in establishment politics.

The superdelegate system, as we know it, came from the backlash of the 1980s. In January 1982, supported by Mondale, the Hunt Commission and Democratic National Committee reversed grassroots reforms. They rewrote the rules, not to make elections open and fair, but to make sure that centrist (right-wing) candidates maintained hegemony over nominees and party affairs. It was out of fear of new uncontrollable voters that the Commission created a block of uncommitted delegates drawn from a primarily white, male establishment. Mondale, the same insider who prevented elected Mississipppians from taking their seats in 1964, played the pivotal role in creating hundreds of unelected delegates in 1984. Superdelegates comprised 14 percent of the convention in 1984, and eighty-five percent of the superdelegates picked Mondale. Not long after superdelegates picked “the sure winner,” Mondale was trounced in the presidential election. Nevertheless, the superdelgate number passed the 600 mark by 1988. The Jesse Jackson campaign, especially the massive victory over Dukkakis on Super Tuesday, electrified the party and the country. Jackson won 7 million primary votes in 1988, more than Mondale won as the nominee in 1984. Many party regulars were gripped with panic, and some superdelegates organized a stop-Jackson movement within the party. Jackson protested the role of superdelegates, but his challenge went unheeded. Party leaders continued to look for ways to blunt the growing power of grassroots movements. While they could not stop voters from voting, they could dilute the impact of the reform movements by manufacturing added voters as a countervailing force.

Mondale was quite open about the undemocratic aims of the superdelegate system. In a number of talks, he acknowledged that superdelegates were created with the explicit aim of preventing voter insurgencies. He espoused his anti-democratic sentiments in the New York Times, February 2, 1992, where he called for expansion of superdelgate numbers:

“The election is the business of the people. But the nomination is more properly the business of the parties….The problem lies in the reforms that were supposed to open the nominating process….Party leaders have lost the power to screen candidates and select a nominee. The solution is to reduce the influence of the primaries and boost the influence of the party leaders….The superdelgate category established within the Democratic Party after 1984 allows some opportunity for this, but should be strengthened.”

Today, faced with enthusiastic, grassroots support for Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton now espouses the old Mondale position (in the guarded, euphemistic language of a candidate), pitting the party regulars against the danger of the popular vote. I do not intend here to compare the merits of the candidates. But there is a question of principle involved in the superdelgate controversy. The very integrity of our elections is at stake. No vote is safe when a self-appointed group can nullify the results of a primary election that displeases them.

When Obama recently told a reporter that he thinks superdelegates should respect the wishes of the primary voters, Clinton took exception. “Superdelegates are by design supposed to exercise independent judgment,” she said. She also claimed that Obama’s view is “contrary to what the definition of superdelegate has historically been.” Historically she is right, of course. Superdelegates were never expected to respect the integrity of elections. But are we compelled today to embrace a system that was corrupt in its very design? Should voters be supervised, and finally overruled, when the superdelegates disagree with their wishes?

All Democratic members of the House and Senate become superdelegates automatically. Let us not forget that George Bush led the vast majority of Democrats by the nose into pre-emptive war, implicating most of the current superdelegates in the biggest catastrophe of recent decades. What makes these individuals wiser than nurses, technicians, custodians, lawyers, teachers, athletes, fire fighters, proprietors-all who voted in good faith in the recent primary? Why don’t the superdelegates do the job they were elected to do-end the war-and let the voters do their job in the primaries-select the next nominee?

And finally, what is the difference between superdelegate intervention in the outcome of the primary and the right-wing intervention in Florida in 2000, when Republican judges stopped the counting of votes, and appointed Bush as President? How many times will the loser in an election be imposed on the electorate?

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By * rdorgan on Feb 22, 2008 11:43 PM EST

10:57 PM EST

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1716609,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

Superdelegates Jump to ObamaFriday, Feb. 22, 2008 By AP/STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

(WASHINGTON) — The Democratic superdelegates are starting to follow the voters - straight to Barack Obama.

In just the past two weeks, more than two dozen of them have climbed aboard his presidential campaign, according to a survey by The Associated Press. At the same time, Hillary Rodham Clinton's are beginning to jump ship, abandoning her for Obama or deciding they now are undecided.

The result: He's narrowing her once-commanding lead among these "superdelegates,"

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By on Feb 22, 2008 11:43 PM EST

Article Archives Listen to Alex Jones Contact TruthNews
Delusional hope: The Obama rapture
Joel S. Hirschhorn
Online Journal
February 22, 2008

Never have so many hoped for so much because of rollicking rhetoric and pulsating platitudes. A tsunami of hope has plunged America into electoral euphoria. In its path is the wreckage of critical thinking about what ails the US and what bold, revolutionary actions are needed.

Barry Obama has accomplished semantic alchemy, turning justified but grim distrust and outrage with government and politics into hallelujah hope. But most hope never materializes and is a terrible predictor of reality.

Think about the prevalence of hope: sports teams heading into a championship game, research scientists envisioning a Nobel Prize, people in the criminal justice system awaiting trial, entrepreneurs starting a new business, people starting off on a long-awaited vacation, American Idol contestants, college seniors dreaming of becoming superrich, and all those supporters of Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and other presidential candidates that will not reach the White House.

Hope produces far more losers than winners. Hope is enjoyable until failure hits. But most people do not give up on hope, just move on to the next hope.

Obama hoped that he could tap into the national desire for change from the awful conditions produced by the Bush administration by selling hope to voters rather than his experience and accomplishments. Like a political snake oil slalesman, he has succeeded as a compelling seller of hope, better than the best infomercial charlatan.

His proof that hope works is his life story and political campaign. This resembles a con man selling a real estate scheme by showing pictures of his yacht, estate and Rolls Royce. Millions of consumers succumb because of their hope that riches can be obtained by following the quack�s advice and formula. Such false hope succeeds because people buy into wrong or deceitful information. False hope can be revealed through objective examination of the facts, assumptions or promises used by the hope purveyor.

Delusional hope is much more insidious. The trick behind delusional hope is that recipients of the hope message supply their own justifications and rationalizations for taking ownership of the hope. As much as delusional hope comes from the hope messenger, it is also self-inflicted to a large degree. In fact, the hope messenger may be honest and authentic, like Obama, truly believing in his hope message. Those who embrace the hope message have many possible reasons and motivations for doing so.

It may be therapeutic by offsetting depression, stress or anger. It makes people happier, feel good and have something positive to look forward to in an otherwise dismal world. It provides comfort and some sense of security. Delusional hope is exactly like a placebo, producing an apparent positive result without any valid reason for doing so, except satisfying the desire for a positive result.

Obama has produced an epidemic of contagious delusional hope for a population rightfully disgusted with ordinary politics and politicians. Like an excellent magician, people are mesmerized by the trick of promising to turn YOUR hope into HIS success.

What happens if President Obama does not actually deliver any real, substantive changes and reforms in government and public policy? Who will be blamed? Hope-happy Obama or a nation of hope-losers for electing him?

This mass delusional hope befits our delusional democracy with its delusional prosperity. Rather than the usual lies, Obama offers hope for change, as if the ruling plutocracy will fade away and stop using their considerable influence over government to funnel an obscene fraction of the nation�s income and wealth to the richest Americans and corporations.

Money is key to seeing Obama for what he really is — an insider politician. He has backed away from his clear promise to use public financing for the general election, as John McCain also promised to do. His broken commitment results from his ability to raise enormous sums from hope addicts. Besides many small contributors, he has received enormous financial support from a number of business sectors. He provided about $700,000 to other politicians in the past year to get their support. When it comes to money, Obama seems much too much like an ordinary politician.

What is the audacity of hope? The confidence that most Americans will eat the political narcotic hook, line and sinker. Welcome to the Obama rapture.

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 10:59 PM EST

I, JC, BEING THE RETURNING OFFICER...(Part 5)

(I know...but, what the heck -it's near a full moon)

David Bowie - Andy Warhol         http://hypem.com/track/485364   

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:02 PM EST

Sorry Dan old boy, I am like Denise and the BFA1.0ers

I scroll whole articles.

Sure would have been nice if you had *got that* so long ago.

But I can scroll.

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By mary vb on Feb 22, 2008 11:51 PM EST

This is for Fred in Ashland, OR.

Vaccines and manslaughter

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...

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By on Feb 22, 2008 11:52 PM EST

Memo to President Obama

Newsweek
February 21, 2008

According to the decider-commander, the people of Pakistan welcome CIA attacks on their country without permission or notification.

Using bold rhetoric that often makes his followers rapturous, Barack Obama has declared over and over that he will be the president of “change.” But is Obama brave enough to bring about a really radical change? Will he end the permanent “war” George W. Bush has left us with? Will a candidate or a President Obama be willing to go so far as to question whether “the war on terror”—the framework for nearly every discussion of U.S. foreign policy today—is truly the pre-eminent challenge of our time?

Obama has come close. He has repeatedly called the war in Iraq a needless distraction, and he has accused Bush of “lumping” all sorts of enemies together. “It is time to turn the page,” Obama declared last August in a defining speech at the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington. “When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won.” But Obama’s rhetoric still suggests that he too will be spending his term as a war president. And his “comprehensive strategy” for that war, while it calls for “getting out of Iraq and onto the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan,” still implies that the Illinois senator believes the war on terror should be the overarching framework for his foreign policy.

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By on Feb 22, 2008 11:54 PM EST

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mary vb good post mary good doctor!

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By sunlight on Feb 22, 2008 11:05 PM EST

What is the audacity of hope? The confidence that most Americans will eat the political narcotic hook, line and sinker. Welcome to the Obama rapture.

I'm one who thinks that hope is a human invented hoax.

Having observed Obama respond to any accusations about him in a very cool manner convinced me he is aware and in charge.

That's what I like about him.

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By audrey.nc on Feb 22, 2008 11:08 PM EST


I just spent a great time over at Kos reading some of the comments on Dean's interview. One could imagine they were at BFA, but that's not the way BFA is just now.

Anyway, there were all kudos for Dean....for VP, how soon for Pres., he's a genius, best thing that ever happened to the Party, to DNC. etc......NICE

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By puddle on Feb 22, 2008 11:09 PM EST

Daniel, STOP IT; STOP IT; STOP IT, OR YOU'LL GET SENT TO YOUR ROOM WITHOUT DINNER!!!!

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By audrey.nc on Feb 22, 2008 11:13 PM EST



oH, yes, they were saying over at Kos that the 50 state plan is what brought out the Dems in Idaho. Barack says he won Idaho because he can attract Independents. ??

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:18 PM EST

Good sh!t, What

that vid on Inspiration.

Thank you.

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:08 AM EST

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Fri, 02/22/08

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Sorry Dan old boy, I am like Denise and the BFA1.0ers

I scroll whole articles.

Sure would have been nice if you had *got that* so long ago.

But I can scroll.
a mind is a tearable thing to waste! to old to learn or just blind,no im sorry for you oboy!

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By Renee in Ohio on Feb 23, 2008 12:10 AM EST
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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:23 PM EST

Good listening, Dan.

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:13 AM EST

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Fri, 02/22/08

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These two illegals were not able to continue to tear families apart in their crime spree!

I see.

Now, what has that to do with illegals? You don't think that legals do the same kind of things? its has nothing to do with illegals its about gun control dud!i dont care if they were from mars.

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By listener on Feb 23, 2008 12:13 AM EST

   ♡ ♥ Thanks for the Ally candles ♥ ♡

Anilow, Seashell, Paine, Karen, puddle,

Renee, Jessica, JayDean, and Nurse Teri~!!

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:31 PM EST

Puddle, Danny is or can be incorrigible.

One can one do?

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:22 AM EST

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puddle stop what?

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:39 PM EST

Kate Nash - Foundations      http://hypem.com/track/483114

Thursday night, every thing's fine, except you've got that look in your eye
when I'm tellin' a story and you find it boring,
you're thinking of something to say.
You'll go along with it then drop it and humiliate me in front of our friends.

Then I'll use that voice that you find annoyin' and say something like
"yeah, intelligent input, darlin', why don't you just have another beer then?"

Then you'll call me a bitch
and everyone we're with will be embarrassed,
and I wont give a shit.

My finger tips are holding onto the cracks in our foundation,
and I know that I should let go,
but I can't.
And every time we fight I know it's not right,
every time that you're upset and I smile.
I know I should forget, but I can't.

You said I must eat so many lemons
'cause i am so bitter.
I said
"I'd rather be with your friends mate 'cause they are much fitter."

Yes, it was childish and you got aggressive,
and I must admit that I was a bit scared,
but it gives me thrills to wind you up.

My finger tips are holding on to the cracks in our foundation,
and I know that I should let go,
but I can't.
And every time we fight I know it's not right,
every time that you're upset and I smile.
I know I should forget, but I can't.

Your face is pasty 'cause you've gone and got so wasted, what a surprise.
Don't want to look at your face 'cause it's makin' me sick.
You've gone and got sick on my trainers,
I only got these yesterday.
Oh, my gosh, I cannot be bothered with this.

Well, I'll leave you there 'till the mornin',
and I purposely wont turn the heating on
and dear God, I hope I'm not stuck with this one.

My finger tips are holding onto the cracks in our foundation,
and I know that I should let go,
but I can't.
And every time we fight I know it's not right,
every time that you're upset and I smile.
I know I should forget, but I can't.

And every time we fight I know it's not right,
every time that you're upset and I smile.
I know I should forget, but I can't.

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:28 AM EST

24.

puddle whats for dinner i might think about it? i bet its crow!

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:30 AM EST

2008: Expect Food “Sticker Shock”

Rene Pastor
Reuters
February 21, 2008

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Americans who dug deeper into their pockets for groceries last year will face sticker shock again this year when shopping for food, experts said on Thursday.

“There’s going to be real food inflation in this country,” C. Larry Pope, president and chief executive of U.S. beef processor Smithfield Foods Inc., said at the U.S. Agriculture Department’s annual outlook conference.

Prices of grain futures have surged lately. For example, wheat futures have more than doubled on the Chicago Board of Trade over the last 12 months. Pope said meat shoppers eventually will pay for the rally because farmers who raise livestock cannot absorb the sharp escalation in feed costs.

Pope said the rip-roaring rallies in corn, soybeans and wheat would be good for farmers, but are “scary” for companies like Smithfield and the rest of the livestock industry.

“I think we need to tell the American consumer that things are going up,” he said in a speech. “We’re seeing cost increases that we’ve never seen in our business.”

USDA Chief Economist Joseph Glauber forecast that consumer food prices would rise 3.0 to 4.0 percent this year after a similar 4.0 percent hike in 2007.

He added that “overall retail food prices for 2008 to 2010 are expected to rise faster than the general inflation rate.”

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:44 PM EST

Link, Dan?!

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:33 AM EST

36.

Imn2Paine
Fri, 02/22/08

Reply to this
Link, Dan?!
to what post?

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 22, 2008 11:48 PM EST

Kate Nash - Dickhead         http://hypem.com/track/448369

Why are you being a dickhead for
Stop being a dickhead
Why are you being a dickhead for
You're just f**king up situations

Why are you being a dickhead for
Stop being a dickhead
Why are you being a dickhead for
You're just f**king up situations

Shiny floor, slippery feet
Lights are dim, my eyes can't meet
The reflection that turns my images
Upside down so I can't see

Think you know everything
You really don't know nothing
I wish that you were more intelligent
So you could see that what you are doing
Is so shitty, to me

Thirty five
People couldn't count
On two hands the amount of times you made me stop
Stop and think why are you being such a dickhead for

Stop being a dickhead,
Why are you being a dickhead for
You're just f**king up situations
[Dickhead lyrics on http://www.metrolyrics.com]

Why are you being a dickhead for
Stop being a dickhead,
Why you being a dickhead for
You're just f**king up situations

Stop, now don't show
Just have a think before you
Will you, stop, now don't show
Just have a think before you

Will you stop, no don't show
Just have a think before you
Will you stop, don't show
Will you just have a think before you

My brain and my bones don't want to take, this anymore
No my brain and my bones don't want to take, this anymore
No my brain and my bones don't want to take with this anymore
No my brain and my bones don't want to take, this anymore, so

Why are you being a dickhead for
Stop being a dickhead
Why are you being a dickhead for
You're just f**king up situations

Why are you being a dickhead for
Stop being a dickhead
Why you being a dickhead for
You're just f**king up situations

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 12:00 AM EST

"Basically"

Yes, that is what unrequited is...we all share that.

Kate Nash - Nicest Thing       http://hypem.com/track/480277

 

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By listener on Feb 23, 2008 12:49 AM EST

Sunlight 8.

Kunin and Symington in Vermont are supporting Clinton.

Yknow what's interesting, Sunlight?

At a local meeting with my Reps, Gaye Symington said she was sure Obama was going to win Vermont easily.  So I wondered if she was asked to stand as a woman in leadership for Hillary Clinton, and thought why not. It's not going to change Obama's win.  

 

 

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By listener on Feb 23, 2008 12:50 AM EST

♡ ♡ ♡   G'nite all.  ♡ ♡ ♡

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By Indy Steve on Feb 23, 2008 12:01 AM EST

This place has become toxic, poisonous, deadly and a place Howard Dean would find sad and ashamed of.....I remember a time when people were reasonable, intelligent and generally got along. But that was long ago...and far, far away.

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By on Feb 23, 2008 12:56 AM EST

if obama is for real, he will be killed! i hope like you all that he is for real, but all the true patriot are killed, never able to change things, he would have to turn on his cfr members, if that happens he a dead man walking, he knows the cost, the blog is drunk with hope, i was too with dean, but we all know what happen there,i still respect him for that. just saying dont get your hope up so high that you dont see clearly, that being said he the best of the worst.

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 12:09 AM EST

Night listener.

hear you

as you sleep

sound

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By puddle on Feb 23, 2008 12:15 AM EST

sunlight, congratulations, and thank you.

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By on Feb 23, 2008 1:05 AM EST

good night all! the carpet bombing is over come out of your fox holes, its safe the infowar continue tomorrow!

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 12:18 AM EST

all the true patriot are killed

>

Really?  I never researched it, but were they liberals? 

________

Hate has a way of lifting it's chin.

The South did it.

The Fascists and Soviets did it.

The only true rebels of Providence are American,

And Dan thinks assassination is the end.

So, what?  "Jesus died for somebody's sins...but not mine"

by Patti Smith

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine
meltin' in a pot of thieves
wild card up my sleeve
thick heart of stone
my sins my own
they belong to me, me

people say "beware!"
but I don't care
the words are just
rules and regulations to me, me

I-I walk in a room, you know I look so proud
I'm movin' in this here atmosphere, well, anything's allowed
and I go to this here party and I just get bored
until I look out the window, see a sweet young thing
humpin' on the parking meter, leanin' on the parking meter
oh, she looks so good, oh, she looks so fine
and I got this crazy feeling and then I'm gonna ah-ah make her mine
ooh I'll put my spell on her

here she comes
walkin' down the street
here she comes
comin' through my door
here she comes
crawlin' up my stair
here she comes
waltzin' through the hall
in a pretty red dress
and oh, she looks so good, oh, she looks so fine
and I got this crazy feeling that I'm gonna ah-ah make her mine

and then I hear this knockin' on my door
hear this knockin' on my door
and I look up into the big tower clock
and say, "oh my God here's midnight!"
and my baby is walkin' through the door
leanin' on my couch she whispers to me and I take the big plunge
and oh, she was so good and oh, she was so fine
and I'm gonna tell the world that I just ah-ah made her mine

and I said darling, tell me your name, she told me her name
she whispered to me, she told me her name
and her name is, and her name is, and her name is, and her name is G-L-O-R-I-A
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria

I was at the stadium
There were twenty thousand girls called their names out to me
Marie and Ruth but to tell you the truth
I didn't hear them I didn't see
I let my eyes rise to the big tower clock
and I heard those bells chimin' in my heart
going ding dong ding dong ding dong ding dong.
ding dong ding dong ding dong ding dong
counting the time, then you came to my room
and you whispered to me and we took the big plunge
and oh. you were so good, oh, you were so fine
and I gotta tell the world that I make her mine make her mine
make her mine make her mine make her mine make her mine

G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria,
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria

and the tower bells chime, "ding dong" they chime
they're singing, "Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine."

Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A,
Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A, G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria,
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria,
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria .

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 12:23 AM EST

...the infowar continue tomorrow!

SPAM

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 12:36 AM EST

@ Milkweg/Milky way

http://chime.tv/#v/3tkwb_zoom

Free money

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 12:47 AM EST

listener, is Ally taking Zofran for the nausea?

Poor little sweetheart.  I lit another candle. 

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By Steve*in*Nebraska on Feb 23, 2008 12:48 AM EST

Daniel, you sound like a fearful child. Since 2004, when WE chose him to lead DNC, Howard Dean has brought about quantum change in the way Americans do politics. We the people who choose to participate, rather than cringe and fabricate fearful thoughts,are taking our neighborhoods and our virtual precincts back. We don't fuss about super-delegates. We just talk with them friend-to-friend. The Obama kid organizes and energizes people. We old Deaniacs welcome them with open arms. We are building neat little neighborhood Democratic gatherings to supply our effective and fun city/county volunteer-operated offices and organizations. We don't think "victory" in the Presidential race. We think, "Landslide!!" Anything less will be overturned by neokangaroo courts. Simple victory and lots of it is necessary in all downticket races, because this country is in the deepest s**t imaginable. Only a titanic effort by all of us the people can save it.
What I am saying is, "Organize a victory." There are simply buttloads of energetic, intelligent people in every neighborhood, just waiting to be asked to help save the world around them. We are doing it here in Lincoln, goddarnedredstate Nebraska, and it looks just like Democracy.

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By puddle on Feb 23, 2008 12:50 AM EST

Daniel's posts are even worse than they used to be: not only do you have to scroll down through them to get to the end of the thread, you have to scroll back up through them to see if you can find the new posts.

Daniel: you are NO mensch. . . .

and a pox on the blog keepers

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 1:11 AM EST

One good thing about the failure of the time-stamp and congruent posting at BFA is ...

the *reemergence* of Puddle-spunk.

wOOt that spunk!

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 1:12 AM EST

Sure Dean

but Puddleriver is first.

'nough said.

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 1:14 AM EST

Wow!  From middle of the pack

to the lead post!

1:18 am EST and it is still snowin (since @6am) ...total @ 8 or so inches.

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 1:47 AM EST
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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 1:53 AM EST

always...sometimes negative

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 1:57 AM EST

Mensch

yeahr, that Puddleriver.

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:06 AM EST

Here's the link for the superdelegate article.  Thanks, Daniel.  I found it fascinating.

http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1968 

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:13 AM EST

Daniel?

Really, sea?

Contrarian?

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:18 AM EST

So the question rolling around in my mind tonight is:

If BO is elected and his delivery on campaign promises doesn't match the high (I think too high) expectations of millions of voters,  what then?  What is the recourse?  Is there peaceful recourse?

I think way too much is being expected of him.

Charlotte Bronte:

"Life is so constructed that an event does not, cannot, will not, match the expectation."

Leo Buscaglia:

Never idealize others. They will never live up to your expectations.

Alexander Pope: 'Blessed is the man who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed'

 

 

 

 

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:22 AM EST

The Roches - Death of Suzzy Roche - McCarter 4-14-90 vv        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ZqwRfA708

The Roches - Road to Fairfax County - McCarter 6-22-91         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yK8UK-v3bc

The Roches - Pretty and High - McCarter Theatre 5-16-92        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w4hzYenLyg

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:21 AM EST

There are several sides to this story and they are all suspect.  He should be protected 24/7.

SECRET SERVICE LEAVES OBAMA AT RISK / RAISES GRAVE CONCERNS By Allen L Roland  (7 comments) The U.S. Secret Service ordered Dallas police not to screen for weapons an hour before a recent Dallas Obama rally not only putting Barack at unnecess...

 

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:22 AM EST

paine, what does "really, sea" refer to?  I learned a lot from the superdelegate article.    Is your tongue in your cheek I hope? :-)

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:25 AM EST

Sea,

one day at a time.

let it happen.

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:27 AM EST

 Is your tongue in your cheek I hope? :-)  

>

prolly, but I don't recall.  It's all a gesture.

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:35 AM EST

The Roches - Hammond Song        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zPIMHcWtuU&feature=related

If you go down to Hammond
you'll never come back
In my opinion you're
on the wrong track
We'll always love you but
that's not the point

If you go with that fella
forget about us
As far as I'm concerned
that would be just
throwing yourself away
not even trying
Come on you're lying to me

Well I went down to Hammond
I did as I pleased
I ain't the only one
who's got this disease

Why don't you face the fact
you old upstart
We fall apart

You'd be okay if you'd
just stay in school
Don't be a fool

Do your eyes have an answer
to this song of mine
They say we meet again
on down the line
Where is on down the line
how far away?
Tell me I'm okay

If you go down to Hammond
you'll never come back

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:40 AM EST

Does anyone know what BO's stance is on impeachment?  There's nothing on his website. 

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:43 AM EST

Roches - The Troubles - McCarter Theatre 6-22-91        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sKvPmbTj2w

...strawberry apricot pie....

Abortion?

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:45 AM EST

Sea, does anyone know w/not Al Gore will run?

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:53 AM EST

The Train" by The Roches        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-LJX9IXiio&feature=related

The Roches - Want Not Want Not         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_g6_4VfQVA&feature=related

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:51 AM EST

Right, paine.  Also make the plans but don't plan the results.

I know I'll be alright but I think of those who are already hungry and homeless.   They're showing up in greater and greater numbers on our streets.  My local grocery store has started a continual food and clothing fund which is  a huge box into which we put anything extra we choose to buy.  We just finished a huge warm clothing drive.  

It always bothered me that we are encouraged to give only on the holidays.

I'll bet homeless shelters would appreciate some of our refund checks. :-) 

 

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:56 AM EST

There is a revoution ever four yers, sea.

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:53 AM EST

paine, If Al were to run, Linda NM would be here with trumpets!!

I still have some hope, but very little.

Gore/Dean

 

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:54 AM EST

Yes, every 4 years and look where they've gotten us. 

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 2:58 AM EST

I can't believe that I am still alert at 3

not much longer?

surely.

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By Phil Specht on Feb 23, 2008 3:00 AM EST

newbie

Steve That is what is happening in Iowa too. excellent post

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:57 AM EST

paine, especially after reading the superdelegate article, I really doubt that the dem voters have had any choice in the nominee for many years.  And some of us won't have any this year either, unless HC pulls off a comeback.  I'll write in Gore or vote JE.

Maybe all this hoopla over the supers will change the system and we get to validate the popular vote.    I hope so. 

 

 

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:00 AM EST

Yes, every 4 years and look where they've gotten us.

>

That is beside the point!

"Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity"

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:02 AM EST

"superdelegates"

that is corporate media crap!

"WE the people..."

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 2:59 AM EST

Hey, Phil, good to see you.  Are all the babies OK and warm?

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 3:00 AM EST

Paine, step 2.  Thank you.   A 12 step program for the electorate. :-)

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:03 AM EST

Gore/Dean

>

"drop out / turn on"

OMG!

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 3:02 AM EST

paine,  your positivity is catching, thank you.  A bit of the doldrums here, so I'm off to meditate before bed.

Things work out for the best in the long run... 

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 3:04 AM EST

Nite, everyone.  Perhaps we're in the middle of an eleventh hour miracle.  One can hope.  :-)

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:11 AM EST

Well, SISTER

this will about do it (for this dark part of the day)

The Roches - Everyone Is Good         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfbX8C7Dfsw&feature=related

I would like to be a person who does not judge
Free to be me whatever that might be
I dont want to hold a position, dont want to hold a grudge
cause it seems to be the cause of a lot of misunderstanding
Heartbreak misery

Looking in your eyes youre different from me
Why does it have to be that one of us is better
Cant we both be beautiful even if we dont agree
Like the flowers in the garden and the animals in the wood
Each one with a purpose and each one is gqod

Everyone is good

Nobodys God says hate your neighbor
Even if the neighbor doesnt believe in god
Put aside your religion do your God a favor
And wouldnt it be something to be ioving and kind
Forgive yourself for everything having once been blind

Everyone is good



<a href="http://www.actionext.com/names_r/roches_lyrics.html">Roches</a> - <a href="http://www.actionext.com/names_r/roches_lyrics/everyone_is_good.html">Everyone Is Good lyrics</a>
These lyrics were found at ActioNext.com.
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By puddle on Feb 23, 2008 3:13 AM EST

♡Paine♡

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:18 AM EST

The Roches - Want Not Want Not

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:21 AM EST

The Roches - Big Nuthin'          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvso8N2Te4g&feature=related

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By Imn2Paine on Feb 23, 2008 3:27 AM EST

My last post

Puddle is Queen

 Mr. Sellack - The Roches        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-34BO2b-a4&feature=related

( Words & Music by Terre Roche )
O Mr Sellack
Can I have my job back?
I've run out of money again.
Last time I saw ya
I was singing Hallelujah
I'm so glad to be leavin' this restaurant.
Now the only thing I want
Is to have my old job back again.
I'll clean the tables;
I'll do the creams;
I'll get down on my knees and scrub
behind the steam table.
O Mr. Sellack
I didn't think I'd be back.
I worked here last year
Remember?
I came when Annie
Was going on vacation
And I stayed on almost till December.
Now the only thing I want
Is to have my old job back again.
I won't be nasty to customers no more.
When they send their burger back I'll tell them that
I'm sorry.
Waiting tables ain't that bad.
Since I've seen you last, I've waited
for some things that you would not believe
To come true.
Give me a broom and I'll sweep my way to heaven.
Give me a job;
You name it.
Let the other forty-million three-hundred and seven
People who want to get famous.
Now the only thing I want
Is to have that old job back again.
I'll clean the tables;
I'll do the creams;
I'll get down on my knees and scrub
behind the steam table.

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By seashell on Feb 23, 2008 3:29 AM EST

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ thank you, paine }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

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