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shout out to my young friend Orrin who worked for Obama here and is now in Orange County
take care of him, he's a good one
...and Chellie pingree, also.
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/
My car had the nerve to *die* on me yesterday (seriously crippled, anyways), so I can't join her down in Lincoln Cty. tomorrow.
Nuts.
Let's put a progressive feminist in 'da "House," folks.
A woman's uterus is safe & *private* w/Chellie (in addition to net neutrality, implementation of Maine's Clean Elections Act; and Maine's Rx Plus elderly prescription program (reimportation of Canadian meds).
http://tinyurl.com/33v7kj
http://maine.gov/dhhs/mainerx/index.htm
Chellie gets stuff *done* (even if it takes years to do so)!
fmi:
http://pingreeforcongress.com/
Chellie, re: Wexler & impeachment--in her virtual voice~
http://tinyurl.com/3d24aj
cC and Reed. I, too, am very uncomfortable with BO talking about RR. He knew exactly what and why he was doing it and that makes me nervous for his candidacy AND and gen'l. He may be riding the fence too high.
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Joan, I was never an official "crushie" altho I was invited to be one. I worked for Howard here in PDX and I briefly met him. Yes, I think he would have made a good prez.
That said, there isn't a man in the world who can make me teary eyed, or starry eyed or motivate me to push through crowds to get an autograph or handshake. Many years ago,maybe, but not anymore. I don't do rock star men, nor do I confuse men with god; nor do I look for saviors and messiahs anywhere. Men are men...many good, some not so good. I don't like to see women look at men as tho they're messiahs. They aren't. I'm not suggesting that any BO women supporters here look at BO that way. But I've seen clips of women whose faces looked almost enraptured in their adulation and exhuberance. I sense that emotion is over-taking some of these women.
Howard is a good man. BO is a good man.
A JE/BO ticket would be a GOOD choice. The *rock star* and the populist. :-)
Gore/Dean a better one IMO.
That said, there is one tango dancer/teacher in South America who tempts me to make a fool of myself, by asking him to dance, but I hold back. LOL
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Why would JE want to be a VP candidate? Been there, done that and didn't add much.
If I were any of the top three candidates, I would ask former Senator Bill Bradley. He talks like his mouth is full of cotton but he has a solid record.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Bradle...
He supported Dean and supports BO.
putz is making a last-ditch effort to reward his friends.
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Bush calls for tax breaks to avoid recession
And Pelosi is making a last ditch effort to help him....
Pelosi: Democrats welcome Bush's economic stimulus package
Bradley and Obama are too close to offer any political dynamic or bring along another state. Obama needs to look for a green partner or a populist, and in his case probably a western one, but not one so tied to coal as Schweitzer. Clark is a populist with security creds for Obama and would bring along some ruffled Clinton types
Udall?
Edwards wouldn't have to look further than Obama. but such speculation is way premature,fun as it is
Obama needs to look for a green partner or a populist
Since he isn't one of them past or present, Obama would probably pick a DLCer in order to placate them. It may be Bayh whether he or Hillary prevails.
I am glad BO talked about RR. The Repub movement should be discussed. I am sure he is trying to woo moderate Repubs. When we can't have a discourse about how things got the way they are then we are in trouble.
It has been snowing over an inch per hour for the last five hours. Going down to near zero tonight with a chill factor of minus 10 or so. The weather forcast called for 1-3 inches but we passed that several ours ago. It is pure lake effect as the snow storms form just offshore from Holland move in. We are close to 60 miles from the lake so it normally isn't bad. We measure inches when the lakeside communities measure feet.
I'll fire up the old snow-blower about 6 in the morning.
As far as one candidate likes beer drinkers and the other like wine and cheese....
I like all of it and favor Leigenkuegals(sp) Sunset Wheat beer. I drink it as well as use it as a BBQ base for chickens. Wheat beer sweatens the meat up a little.
Phil Specht
Fri, 01/18/08
I think that Lieberman fellow won as many primaries as Edwards will win this year. But that Jackson dude won some states.
You really shouldn't wave your ignorance about global warming like a giant flag.
Scoop Jackson was a DINO long before the term even existed.
I am glad BO talked about RR.
Like I said in a previous thread, Obama knew exactly who he was targeting with his Reagan remark. It was no gaffe.
Why would JE want to be a VP candidate?
Because he would be next in line for the presidency and the heir apparent for the next
Dem nomination. He'd have to nuts to turn it down.
Saying he doesn't want it is what they all must do.
Must be something going around outside the dem. wing of the Dem Party.
Hillary lists Ronald Reagan as one of her favorite presidents. She adds HW Bush also.
You can't look too Republican. DU article.
You may want to head over to Daily Kos - Kos is on a rampage of sorts about the Obama/RR comments. Hillary named RR one of her fave presidents (LOL) and it's on her website.
Sitka - I know you could care less. ;-)
I hope JE and BO are making quiet deals between themselves.
Good luck to JE and BO tomorrow. May HC be beaten, at least by one of them.
23. I hope one of them (preferably Barack) beats Hillary as well but that Clinton machine will do what it takes to win. Scary that.
Why are BO and HC bringing up RR? He was a disaster. I understand BO's attempt to garner and rope in the repugs but even so....gives me the willies.
Time to hop on the JE bandwagon? Toot toot!
JE/BO or BO/JE sure sounds better than HC/??
mary - that's why we need to throw our support behind JE and bring him up to speed. I would contribute to BO if he were in JE's place. They both need to stay in.........
So with BO/JE ticket, Dems have two candidates who are not very knowledgeable about foreign affairs. Both do OK as domestic policy folks but each needs a VP with some foreign policy credits.
If anyone is interested BO will be on CSPAN2, giving a live speech from LasVegas.
Like Phil suggested...they probably need to go west to balance the ticket.
update: Setting the record straight. Kos has updated his Hillary's favorite presidents. She actually said she admired Reagan's skills.
She actually said she admired Reagan's skills.
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Mary,
I think you lived in Europe around that time.............most Europeans thought he was a bombastic clod.............I agreed.
PBS's _NOW_ is on (also streamed online in full)--mentions blogging/Netroots, vs. Clintonianism/DLC establishment, etc.
Featuring Donna Edwards, Deaniacs, & Lamont, etc.
http://tinyurl.com/2syuyl
Reagan was a master manipulator with a public that was buying what he was selling. That is kind of like admiring a mass murder for the skill displayed killing people.
My own theory is the public wants the next person to be opposite the person currently holding the office.
So since Bush is not very curious then the next person has to be curious and aware of the world around them.
The topic of working with others is needed as the current president pretty much does what he wants. So is understanding the world and recognize situations change around you where Bush is rigid.
I made a pretty good case for BO which is fine.
Ar good cases could be made for JE as well.
But HC is too much like Bush for my taste.
LOL...while waiting for Obama to take the stage, they're playing Sam & Dave's "Hold On, I'm Coming"
LOL...while waiting for Obama to take the stage, they're playing Sam & Dave's "Hold On, I'm Coming"
Must be two-fer Tuesday
Chitown's Staple Singers next....no rap in sight
Mike - I, too, think Reagan was a clod and horrible for the country - his policies that is. I think you're missing the greater point though. Obama is talking about transformational times.
I'm going to go have some ice cream with my son. It's his big treat since he's in the District Wrestling finals tomorrow. He's worked hard and is seeded at the very top and looking forward to taking the gold.
Nite all. Crossing fingers for an Obama gold medal tomorrow.
The Gipper was Mr Teflon where critisism just rolled off him. Whatever he did, the public supported him.
Bush reminds me of a walking, talking sewer. He just doesn't care about the suffering he causes. If no one likes it tuff, impeach me if you don't like it. By now, everyone has figured out that the Dem congress is made up of cowardly lap dogs. We have to change it in this election.
as I said in a recent thread, the rethugs are paying people to infiltrate blogs to disrupt conversation.
sitka is one of those.
so don't ingage with the troll
hateful and of no means to this blog.
he is of no means to our bfa.
you engage, you lose.
what a sad person he is.
but he knows that.
My bad--go back a couple of links (full stream):
"Democrats Divided 2008
With the primary season underway, America is focused on whether the next president will be Democrat or Republican. Meanwhile, within the Democratic Party another struggle is unfolding. NOW on PBS reports on a rift between progressives who believe the party has sold out its liberal values and centrists eager to capture a broad swath of the more conservative voters. It's a struggle that is taking place at all levels of government."
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http://tinyurl.com/ysj28p
bed time for me..gotta shovel snow early...we have about a foot of new snow on the ground. The weather map shows lake effect snow dieing out now. It won't get above freezing for at least two weeks.
We have a lot of deer and birds in the area. We feed apples and corn to the deer and put seeds, nuts and suet in the many bird feeders all over the place.
This evening, a nice 8 or 10 point buck came in the back. A real beauty.
Obama on CSPAN 1 now and I'm going to go watch.
mainefem -- NOW was good -- as you describe.
mary vb -- me too. Obama/Schweitzer 08 :~)
Nitie borgie.
linda b
Fri, 01/18/08
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as I said in a recent thread, the rethugs are paying people to infiltrate blogs to disrupt conversation.
sitka is one of those.
so don't ingage with the troll
hateful and of no means to this blog.
he is of no means to our bfa.
you engage, you lose.
what a sad person he is.
but he knows that.
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Oh my gosh ! Let me get on my tinfoil hat and declare "another conspiracy has inflitrated our progressive Garden of Eden -- our BFA blog !" Man your stations everyone ! Incoming fire !
If there's one Sitka, there's probably more to come !
In the 6 months or so I have been on this blog, sitka hasn't changed. So calling him a paid Repug disruptor is kind of silly. If remotely so, they aren't getting their monies worth as there are at least 600 posts per day. I skip over most of his posts anyway as they add little to the discussion. We know all the candidates have flaws. No revelation there. We will all have to work thru that one way or another.
OMG, I found it, I unearthed it -- the words Sitka and conspiracy all in the same document ! :
http://www.shophollandamerica.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=itemdetail&item_id_int=7929
The Woman Who Married a Bear by John StraleyPrice: $12.00
Sitka, Alaska, is a subarctic port surrounded by snow-dusted mountains.
...
What he unearths is a virtual fairytale contrived to hide a primal conspiracy. Set against the modern Alaskan frontier
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PATIENTS ARRESTED FOR HEALTHCARE ADVOCACY!
Here’s an extraordinary image of an extraordinary moment: Steve Maviglio, the Deputy Chief of Staff to Fabian Nunez, the Speaker of the California Assembly, directing Capitol police to arrest an un-insured patient for trying to speak to the media about healthcare reform. That’s Maviglio on the far right.
Conversations with press like this happen every day, every hour in the Capitol; it’s why the building exists.
But I guess most conversations aren’t on the subject of the insurance industry’s number one priority—which is to pass an “individual mandate” law. And most conversations don’t happen as a gigantic fake healthcare reform bill seems to be careening to an ugly defeat.
Which is why most conversations don't end with patients being cited for a misdemeanor. ...read more: http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/blog...
Nurses Unveil New Advertising Campaign Against Schwarzenegger-Nunez “Individual Mandate” Plan ...listen: ftp://ftp.hsp-central.net/uploads/cna/cn...
Hi,
Yes, NOW was excellent. I hadn't thought that the Howard Dean Movement was essentially an anti-Clinton movement. I think that may be a bit of revisionist history. I thought it was first of all an anti-war movement and an anti=Bush movement. Still, a gratifying program.
Also Bill Moyers' Journal. Not to be missed. The author of The Fall of the House of Bush discusses how we've lost influence and power in the Middle East.
Then, Free Lunch, how rich people take advantage of the tax codes and laws to enrich themselves. We've enriched George W. Bush. The land for the stadium he and his partners built was declared eminent domain, sold for a fraction of the real value, and George and cronies pockedt $280 million. Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet, all took money from the government legally. The author said, we have only one party in Washington, The Money Party.
Then, Harvey J. Kaye, the author of Thomas Paine, talks of how Reagan and the Republicans co-opted Paine for their purposes and the Democrats were too timid to do anything. An example of propaganda that Reagan so effectively used.
Finally, I quoted the book about 2012, "the clothes have no emperor." Far cleverer than I am capabale of.
How do you know that Sitka is being paid by Republicans? If this is a fact, you should site your proof. If it's an accusation, I find that troubling.
Well, off. Thanks for the great discussions.
Pat in Colorado
Fri, 01/18/08
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How do you know that Sitka is being paid by Republicans? If this is a fact, you should site your proof. If it's an accusation, I find that troubling.
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Pat -
"If it's an accusation, I find that" hilarious.
Jeez, I was going to watch Comedy Central tonight but got on her instead. I got an instance laugh at linda b's warning to us all re: Sitka.
well, nite everyone (off to sleep with a smile on my face, thanks linda b for that)
good speech by Obama, not the same old stump speech and commenting on charges against him. He doesn't do "Washington Speak."
Hope is imagining what you want and working for what you believe.
You are right, rdorgan, I'm way too serious, always have been. I love people who make me laugh.
Quick postscript: Bill Clinton gave the rich a bigger tax cut than Bush did. Clinton's cut for the richest was 8 percent. Bush's 5 percent. That from Bill Moyers Journal.
typo - Jeez, I was going to watch Comedy Central tonight but got on her instead.
s/b - Jeez, I was going to watch Comedy Central tonight but got on here instead.
(boy, I must be tired after working my second jon today, cuz I'm typing so bad that I'm leaving off one "e" where I shouldn't be, oops-a-daisy, sorry, nite nite before I do any other typos)
Very nice speech, I agree Holly. Not scripted too much, candid remarks on what he's been experiencing on the campaign trail, personal stories.
I like how he doesn't get bogged down in all of the stuff being thrown his way and addresses it with short, thoughtful responses.
8pm PT
And whoever is choosing his music is doing a superb job.
Deaniacs ('04) were very anti-DLC (being incessantly smeared by the likes of Al From, Bruce Reed, & Will Marshall) etc., Pat.
That's why ActBlue (and other progressive blogs) are also listed on the page...anyone can "be" their own PAC now (since '04).
Just ask Donna Edwards about primarying (vs. Al Wynn, DLC-er)....
No need for "bats."
Go, Chellie!
http://actblue.com/page/mf
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thanks for the echo
boy I'm tired (after a long week, I can't wait for tomorrow's Nevada dem caucus results, sometime after 3pm EST ?)
52.
another typo - I got an instance laugh at
s/b - I got an instant laugh at
55.
my final correction for the night -
typo - second jon s/b - second job
typo -
sell the dead cat bounce and hang on, we went right through the support, while the President talked about a hundred and fifty billion infusion
"we need to get money in the hands of the consumers"(so they can get it into the hands of the chinese at walmart, so they continue to buy our debt)
how about accelerating just paying steelworkers to build bridges, and get infrastructure in the bargin?
paying people a fair wage would put money in the hands of the consumers too
so would a health care bill
22 below wind chill, the candidates are mightly glad the calendar was moved up
Printable version Bush feels political heat over economy By Daniel Lak BBC News
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kind of the last nail in the coffin
worst President ever
but you knew that
nite all
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mainefem
Fri, 01/18/08
Thanks
THE BUSH-PELOSI REBATES WILL MAKE THINGS WORSE
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dave_lin_080118_no_tax_rebate_s_goin.htm
By adding another $145 billion to the budget deficit, the government is contributing significantly to inflationary pressures, and when those gnomes in Zurich, London, Tokyo and Hong Kong see that, they’ll bid down the value of the dollar even more. Our once mighty currency, now worth only half a pound Sterling in Britain, or just over 100 Yen in Japan, is shrinking faster than the polar icecap. And that means that all the products we depend on—our tools, our dishware, our clothes, much of the food we eat, and of course our oil—will get more expensive.
So if for sake of argument and easy math, we’re making $100,000, that’s $50,000 being spent on imported stuff. Now here’s where things get a little speculative. But suppose that having the government add another $145 billion in red ink to the federal budget leads to an extra 3 percent decline in the value of the dollar against foreign currencies—a not unreasonable scenario. Why, that would mean that the $50,000 I spend on foreign goods in a year would cost me an extra $1500—just about the same amount as that $1600 Bush is proposing to lay on me.
But…that weakened dollar will continue into next year and beyond, while the $1600 rebate is a one-time thing.
So what do we get out of this rebate thing?
Worse than nothing.
11:30 PM
I agree Phil, giving people a few hundred dollars won't change the economy. People just give more money to Walmart with will filter to China. This boost won't even last to the fall election
Invest in infrastructure and developing alternative energy sources. Michigan needs to create jobs for energy efficient cars and transport.
Giving more money to corporate welfare won't work either.
The WPA worked well. Why not re-implement it to fit our times?
Must be something going around outside the dem. wing of the Dem Party.
Hillary lists Ronald Reagan as one of her favorite presidents. She adds HW Bush also.
She and Obama are after the "dog soldier" vote.
You may want to head over to Daily Kos - Kos is on a rampage of sorts about the Obama/RR comments.
Let him blow his toy horn. He's a legend in his own mind.
as I said in a recent thread, the rethugs are paying people to infiltrate blogs to disrupt conversation.
sitka is one of those.
so don't ingage with the troll
Linda's rage has blinded her in the other eye as well. There's even a touch of insanity. She's also demonstrated once again how bad she is at living by her own word.
Sitka, Alaska, is a subarctic port surrounded by snow-dusted mountains.
Sitka was an Irish terrier mutt of mine who would grab my ankle and never let go.
69 was in response to 67
Lynn, too bad the politicians don't read blogs. We can always figure things out. :-)
Has anyone polled black voters to ask what they think of BO's invoking of RR?
I still think he shot himself in the foot. We need him, to challenge HC.
Has anyone polled black voters to ask what they think of BO's invoking of RR?
I still think he shot himself in the foot.
There's been very little coverage of it. Therefor, it might as well not exist for most people.
But the "dog soldier" Democrats (Reagan Dems) it was targeted at seem to have liked it if his comments typify them.
Bush feels political heat over economy
So Pelosi is rushing to give him what he wants. We've definitely moved from capitulation to collaboration -- if the former ever really existed.
Pelosi: Democrats welcome Bush's economic stimulus package
I'm amazed that anyone can still think the corrupt corporate Dems are ever going to do anything good that isn't more than window dressing intended to keep luring liberal voters into their web of deception.
They not only should read blogs, they should do what we say/ask. LOL
They not only should read blogs, they should do what we say/ask.
We can't pay them as much as the corps do.
Don't shoot the messenger, please. Video at bottom of article.
Pro-Obama Ad, Calls it ‘Divisive Politics’ by Cristina CorbinAddressing a crowd of several hundred supporters at a rally in Las Vegas on Friday, John Edwards denounced an ad running in Nevada by a national labor union supporting Barack Obama.
The pro-Obama radio ad, airing on two Spanish stations and sponsored by a group called UNITE HERE (the parent union of Culinary Workers’ 266 that has endorsed Obama), calls Hillary Clinton “shameless” and says “she does not respect our people.”
Edwards condemned the ad—describing it as “malicious”—and criticized Obama for not calling on the group to stop running it.
“He should speak up,” Edwards told the crowd. “If he really means what he says—and this is not just talk—he should speak up and denounce this kind of divisive politics.”
They should not have to read blogs - they just need some common sense!
<>They should not have to read blogs - they just need some common sense!
<>They have common sense. What they lack are common scruples.
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Just this afternoon I was sitting on my couch enjoying my daily 3P.M. lunch of whatever leftovers were in the fridge and gummy bears for dessert when it dawned on me; I don't give a rat's ass about any of the issues this country is facing. I am an undergraduate senior studying political science so this surprised me a little bit. How could an engaged, intelligent, and good looking 6th year senior who is enjoying studying politics suddenly just quit caring about some very important (used to be important I guess), issues facing us in these troubled times?
Well this notion did not just drop out of thin, really cold southern Illinois air and into my head. As I took a very short personal inventory while still on the couch, by this time in my pajamas, I realized that no one else much cares about education, the economy, or healthcare reform either. PHEW. I was able to rule out being depressed due to having to get a real job soon. I realized that in this presidential election the commander in chief of our great country will not be picked according to their stance on many questions that we as a people will face in the future, but instead on who said what when about what 6 years ago, who looks the most presidential, what the founder of BET says about them, who has the most facebook friends, who plays bass guitar the best (any impressive talents or tricks will do), and of course who Oprah and Chuck Norris like the most.
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=5686
Edwards condemned the ad—describing it as “malicious”—and criticized Obama for not calling on the group to stop running it.
Edwards Insists Hands Are Tied Over Controversial AdAfter he was called to put an end to the 527's ad campaign, Edwards said that he was legally prohibited from doing so.
''The way the law exists today is you have no control,'' he said this past Thursday. ''You're not allowed by law to have contact or to coordinate with 527s. So can you discourage it? Yes, and I do.''
Clinton, Obama Camps Argue Over Ads
Obama spokesman Bill Burton said Obama believes "campaigns should fund themselves and discourages supporters from spending outside the campaign."
Looks like Obama did just what Edwards was willing to do himself.
A view of how the Democratic Party has corrupted the primary process to keep the delegates and the convention under the control of their corporate mas...
It's always been corrupt. And it always will be so long as the overwhelming majority are either ignorant or indifferent to it.
Just this afternoon I was sitting on my couch enjoying my daily 3P.M. lunch of whatever leftovers were in the fridge and gummy bears for dessert when it dawned on me; I don't give a rat's ass about any of the issues this country is facing.
I recommend going cold turkey on the gummy bears.
John Edwards As An Angry Populist
I've never called Edwards an angry populist. A phoney one -- but never an angry one.
Is this the day Edwards was supposed to raise $7M? His website doesn't say a thing about it.
Weird. It's like a Twilight Zone fundraiser that happened in another dimension.
(It also froze up on me. The only way I'll be able to get rid of the page is to quit my browser. Thanks for screwing with me again, Edwards.)
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I don't understand why JE is so upset about the ads. Clinton tried to disenfranchise voters. The adds are true. Clinton is shameless, she doesn't respect the people.
Certainly JE wants these people to be able to vote.
from KOS:
Bad Oppo Alert! Hillary Did Not List Ronald Reagan As Favorite President
In an effort to divert attention from Senator Obama’s comments about President Reagan and his assertion that the GOP has been the "party of ideas," the Obama campaign circulated an item this evening from the Salmon Press in New Hampshire that asserts that Senator Clinton listed the former President as one of her favorite presidents. In fact, Senator Clinton only complimented President Reagan’s communications skills – an attribute of his that has been widely praised by Americans of all ideological stripes – and did not list him as one of her favorite presidents. She also noted that she respected George H.W. Bush.
David Cutler, the co-owner of Salmon Press Newspapers, released the following statement:
The question posed was originally what portraits would you hang in the White House if you were President and as the dialogue progressed, who are the presidents you admire most?
She [Sen. Clinton] listed several presidents that she admired and mentioned she liked Reagan’s communication skills. She did not say Reagan was her favorite President. She didn’t say anything close to that.
I don't understand why JE is so upset about the ads.
Hypocrisy aside, the only way he'll ever get more votes is to pry them away from the others using any crow bar he can find.
I don't even like that Hillary complimented his "communication skills" but that is a significantly different from what BO said. A blunder on his part and somewhat telling. For me, it affirms that he'll be an incrementalist as president.
Throughout all of this, JRE is invisible. Well, the rest of America is juuuust beginning to look at presidential politics. Hopefully, things will change for him.
92. Sitka, based on your logic re. Edwards then Governor Dean should never run for Pres. again.
the Obama campaign circulated an item this evening from the Salmon Press in New Hampshire
I've already condemned on this blog what Obama said. But I'm not willing to accept at face value any assertion at Kos with regard to what the Obama campaign is handing out -- that wasn't even written by them. After the way he turned on Dean back in 2003, I just don't trust the guy or his blog.
Here's the actual story from Salmon Press.....
Hillary Clinton Lists Ronald Reagan As One Of Her Favorite PresidentsHer list of favorite presidents - Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Truman, George H.W. Bush and Reagan - demonstrates how she thinks. As expected, Bill Clinton was also included on the aforementioned list.
(It also includes this interesting tidbit at the beginning.....)
12/12/2007
MANCHESTER, NH - The Salmon Press newspapers, which include 11 weekly newspapers published throughout New Hampshire’s Lakes Region and North Country today endorsed Hillary Clinton for President.
Distributing something that has since turned out to be untrue (perhaps) hardly amounts "dirty" politics. Especially when it's from a paper that starts offer touting its endorsement of Hillary!
<>If the charge of dirty politics is from Markos Moulitsas himself, I'd say the former Republican has gone over the deep end in his despair at Edwards' failing campaign, and is willing to further besmirch his already shakey reputation if that's what it takes to get Edwards an extra point in the polls.
Sitka, based on your logic re. Edwards then Governor Dean should never run for Pres. again.
I'm afraid there's a disconnect in your interpretation of my logic. It only makes sense that if Edwards wants to get out of third place, he'll have to get voters from the other candidates.
All I'll ay about Dean is, after winning just one primary in 2004, he, unlike Edwards, had the sense to realize that Dem voters obviously didn't want him and moved on to another pursuit. I hope he runs again in the future, but I respect him for not climbing right back onto the same dead horse in the following election.
The diarist that I quoted at post #93 from KOS is not Markos.
The diarist that I quoted at post #93 from KOS is not Markos.
Glad to hear it. I already think badly enough of him.
Then Sitka, the purist, is inconsistent in his logic:
All I'll ay about Dean is, after winning just one primary in 2004, he, unlike Edwards, had the sense to realize that Dem voters obviously didn't want him and moved on to another pursuit.
(you are logically consistent in you this statement implying that his devastating 2004 loss should disqualifies Gov. Dean for the same reasons that you say disqualify JRE for another run....but then you follow it up with a desperate-to-save-yourself, contradictory statement below, lol. So much for ideological from the purist, Sitka. Thanks for that chuckle:)
I hope he runs again in the future, but I respect him for not climbing right back onto the same dead horse in the following election.
99. I have my own problems with Markos Moulitsas myself, especially of recent but I've never seen him lie in a post. He used to be quite vigilant about kicking fact-free posts to the curb but I've noted of late that Daily Kos is devolving as well. I figure it's cuz he spends too much time on the talk show circuit.
s/b so much for ideological purity;)
Since personal putdowns are what your peddling, I'll repond in a way you can understand.....
<>You obviously don't know it, but you're actually laughing at your own lack of comprehension.
Over 50% of prescription drugs are derived from chemicals first identified in plants.
But the Botanic Gardens Conservation International said many were at risk from over-collection and deforestation.
Researchers warned the cures for things such as cancer and HIV may become "extinct before they are ever found".
The group, which represents botanic gardens across 120 countries, surveyed over 600 of its members as well as leading university experts.
MIRACLE CURES MOST AT RISK Yew tree - Cancer drug paclitaxel is derived from the bark, but it takes six trees to create a single dose so growers are struggling to keep up Hoodia - Plant has sparked interest for its ability to suppress appetite, but vast quantities have already been "ripped from the wild" as the search for the miracle weight drug continues Magnolia - Has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for 5,000 years as it is believed to help fight cancer, dementia and heart disease. Half the world's species threatened, mostly due to deforestation Autumn crocus - Romans and Greeks used it as poison, but now one of the most effective treatments for gout. Under threat from horticulture tradehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7196702.stm
They identified 400 plants that were at risk of extinction.
These included yew trees, the bark of which forms the basis for one of the world's most widely used cancer drugs, paclitaxel.
Hoodia, which originally comes from Namibia and is attracting interest from drug firms looking into develop weight loss drugs, is on the verge of extinction, the report said.
He used to be quite vigilant about kicking fact-free posts to the curb
But you have no problem with reposting them here? You could use a dose of "purist" yourself -- a big one.
And of course, if the CIA says it, it must be true.
The CIA has added its support to the view that a Pakistani militant, Baitullah Mehsud, and al-Qaeda organised Benazir Bhutto's killing.
CIA Director Michael Hayden told the Washington Post that the former Pakistani prime minister was killed by fighters allied to Baitullah Mehsud.
The Pakistani government accused Mehsud of the attack shortly after Ms Bhutto's death in Rawalpindi on 27 December.
Mr Hayden did not reveal the sources for his claim.
Correspondents say that Mr Hayden's comments are the most comprehensive public assessment by US intelligence of Ms Bhutto's death.
Controversy still surrounds the circumstances of the killing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7195591.stm
Phil, I didn't understand your answer about how to know how much JE raised today. You used a word to answer my question, but I don't understand what concept you were talking about.
I chuckle at your lack of ideological purity, Sitka and it's rather thin-skinned to whine that you'r being personally criticized. There is some rich irony when someone who trumpets their purity here daily yet makes such a completely contradictory statement.
I'll leave it there for now but sheez, boo-hooing about it? You were not personally attacked. Your logical consistency wash challenged. Big difference.
CIA Director Michael Hayden told the Washington Post that the former Pakistani prime minister was killed by fighters allied to Baitullah Mehsud.
The Pakistani government accused Mehsud of the attack shortly after Ms Bhutto's death in Rawalpindi on 27 December.
They said it was al Qaeda, for christ's sake. Now not even a mention of it.
Are there any suckers left out there who believe a word any of them say?
The post at 93 is not fact-free, Sitka.
Found this on another board.
http://glassbooth.org/
Took the test. These are my results, lol!
* 1 Dennis Kucinich 95% similarity
* 2 Mike Gravel 90% similarity
* 3 John Edwards 79% similarity
Millions of kids growing up hating the US and Israel.
Lost generation Children of the Palestinian intifada.
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I chuckle at your lack of ideological purity, Sitka and it's rather thin-skinned to whine that you'r being personally criticized. There is some rich irony when someone who trumpets their purity here daily yet makes such a completely contradictory statement
Actually, it's the two halves of your brain that are contradictory. You don't understand even the simplest of statements.
And I've never touted myself as a purist, that's just a shallow putdown from people like you who obviously have no scruples to tout.
And as for this exchange, it was you who lowered it to the level of personal attack. I'l trade blows if you insist on keeping it up, but I'd rather let it slide now that I've debunked that baseless attack you reposted here.
It seems that it's always the women and children who suffer the most.
IMPEACH, please.
Central African Republic Drawn in to neighbors' conflicts.
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Israel closes border and steps up military action in Gaza
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Israel said it was acting to try to halt rocket attacks into Israel from Gaza, while Hamas and other Palestinian militants said that they had increased their rocket fire in retaliation for intensified Israeli raids.
round and round and round.
Putz could have stopped this. Cut off military *aid* to Israel for starters.
The post at 93 is not fact-free, Sitka.
It's considered appropriate to post links to facts. Any blogger who doesn't know and do that is a hack.
It would be naive to believe that we haven't supplied Israel with plenty of nukes. Jeez.
Israeli test-fires new long-range missile
AP
Israel radio reported the ground-to-ground missile can carry non-conventional warheads, but Israel does not confirm or deny that it has nuclear weapons.
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Israeli game-playing for God's sake. Cut 'em off.
Sitka, relax. I challenged your logical consistency and you failed. and yes, you've amply demonstrated your willingness/eagerness, actually, to "exchange blows" with folks. Hell, when Fred split you've turned it on Phil, I noted.
Carry on. I'm done with you for now on this one. I may point challenge your logical consistency again in the future.
117. Any blogger here knows how to get to KOS, sitka. Most have it bookmarked, I imagine. sheesh desperate or what?
and apparently, Obama made two references to admiring Reagan. Once in 2006 and then the recent one in Nevada.
Too tired to post them tonight but I'll do so tomorrow. With links;)
G'nite folks.
There were some great woman impressionists - unheard of by the public...same for women composers. It's been said that Clara Schumann actually wrote much of what is attributed to her husband; and that she was in love with Brahms, Robert's good friend. OK, nuff gossip. LOL
By RODERICK CONWAY MORRIS
The struggle of women artists to gain recognition as artists, regardless of their sex, is the underlying leitmotif of "The Art of Women from the Renaissance to Surrealism," a far-ranging exhibition at the Palazzo Reale in Milan.
Whenever I hear his name, I see that giant bra coming at him ...what was the name of that hilarious movie?
"Cassandra's Dream": Woody Allen's dark tale of two brothers
By MANOHLA DARGIS
"Cassandra's Dream," Woody Allen's latest excursion to the dark side of human nature, is good enough that you may wonder why he doesn't just stop making comedies once and for all.
I challenged your logical consistency and you failed
You challenged your own logical consitency and failed. You can't even explain WHY what I said was wrong -- just keep repeating that you didn't get it.
and yes, you've amply demonstrated your willingness/eagerness, actually, to "exchange blows" with folks
I certainly don't enjoy it. But people like you can't refute with sound reasoning and so must insult the person you don't even understand.
Hell, when Fred split you've turned it on Phil, I noted
I didn't turn on Phil. I've disagreed with him, but I've never insulted him.
Carry on. I'm done with you for now on this one.
Smear and run. Carry on indeed.
I may point challenge your logical consistency again in the future.
Go ahead and keep making a fool of yourself. It's no skin off of my nose.
Any blogger here knows how to get to KOS, sitka. Most have it bookmarked, I imagine. sheesh desperate or what?
It was the diary you cut and pasted which contained no links to relevant facts. So linking to it would have been pointless anyway. The real point is that you cut and pasted garbage on this blog and then tried to cover it up with insult and mudfight.
Yeah...desperate or what.
By David Brooks Published: January 18, 2008 document.writeln('
People in my line of work try to answer certain questions. Why did Hillary surge after misting up in New Hampshire? Why have primary victories produced no momentum for the victors? Why did John McCain win among Republicans who oppose the Iraq war in both New Hampshire and Michigan, but lose among voters who support it?
The truth is that many of the theories we come up with are bogus. They are based on the assumption that voters make cold, rational decisions about who to vote for and can tell us why they decided as they did. This is false.
In reality, we voters - all of us - make emotional, intuitive decisions about who we prefer, and then come up with post-hoc rationalizations to explain the choices that were already made beneath conscious awareness. "People often act without knowing why they do what they do," Daniel Kahneman, a Nobel Prize winner, noted in an e-mail message to me this week. "The fashion of political writing this year is to suggest that people choose their candidate by their stand on the issues, but this strikes me as highly implausible."
Nobody really knows how voters think, especially during primary seasons when the policy differences are minute, but it wouldn't be surprising if the cognitive chain went something like this: After seeing a candidate for 100 milliseconds, voters make certain sorts of judgments based on expressiveness, facial structure, carriage and attitude. Alexander Todorov of Princeton has found that he can predict 70 percent of political races just by measuring peoples' snap judgments of candidate's faces.
Then, having formed an impression from these thin-slice appraisals, voters rack their memory banks. Decades ago, Kahneman and Amos Tversky argued that human judgment is less a matter of calculating probabilities and more a matter of trying to fit new things into familiar patterns. Maybe John Edwards reminds one voter of the sort of person he disliked in high school. Maybe Barack Obama evokes the elevated feeling another voter felt watching John F. Kennedy.
Today in Opinion
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In making these associations, voters are trying to perform trait inference. They are trying to divine inner abilities from outward signs.
At the same time, voters embark on an emotional journey with candidates. Antonio Damasio and Joseph LeDoux have shown that emotion isn't the opposite of reason. We use emotion to assign value to things, thus making decision-making possible.
As the campaign drags on, voters see candidates at different events. Maybe at one event Mitt Romney smiled without dipping the outer edge of his eyebrows. This is a cue that the smile is fake, and produces distrust. On the other hand, maybe he vowed to bring all the manufacturing jobs back to Michigan. A voter might have known this was impossible, but appreciated the concern nonetheless.
Well, that was long and spammy, so I'll toddle off to bed before I break the blog.
Forgiveness is the key.
Why did Hillary surge after misting up in New Hampshire?
That one's easy. A percentage of voters have no clue of issues and positions and vote soley on the imagery they're shown (pollsters probably know the exact number).
Using Images Of Bush To Manipulate The Minds Of Voters
Good morning, BFA!
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cC: if you're still around, our man Roger is not doing too well at the Ozzie Open ... two sets down and his Serb opponent (not Djokovic, so it looks like the Serb team really has an up and coming group) is doing very well. Roger missed a big break opportunity in the third set.
By the time you actually see this post (if you do), we'll know the outcome.
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Agree with dog on the Reagan manipulation of the American psyche but hate everything about him. Thanks for clarifying the Hillary misquote, cC; I didn't think that she could be quite that insane.
But it is also true that Europeans ... and others ... thought that the USA had gone nuts when they elected him: a man who thought that his movie memories of WWII were real experiences. And that was even before he had Alzheimers.
I also remember Scoop Jackson. Although I didn't know the term DINO at the time, it certainly IS applicable to him.
It is no surprise that so many of the current neo-con crop actually got their political beginnings while working as his staffers.
Some actually called themselves Dems at one point.
The marriage described here is the ongoing relationship between two journalists who are covering events in Baghdad, not that of a ceremony between Iraqis.
It's worth a read.
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January 20, 2008
Scenes From a Marriage in Baghdad
By DAMIEN CAVE
MY wife, Diana, saw the explosion from a Humvee parked a few hundred yards away. Dirt rose over the palm trees, a deep thud shook the ground and Diana told herself I was nowhere near it.
“I’m sure it was just a mortar,” said a soldier in the front seat.
She hoped he was right; mortars are notoriously inaccurate. But seconds after they climbed out of their vehicles for a 10-mile trek through fields and canals south of Baghdad, the radio crackled, “One K.I.A., three wounded.”
I was with the unit that had been hit, 20 yards or so from the blast. When the cloud of dust cleared, we could see that Sgt. Justin Wisniewski, a brash and funny 22-year-old from Michigan, had stepped on a homemade land mine. From behind dirtied goggles, I could see him lying dead near three bloodied soldiers and a large hole where the bomb had been buried.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashio...
Bob Herbert has good economic advice but it is not quite what putz proposes.
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January 19, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist
Good Jobs Are Where the Money Is
By BOB HERBERT
I think of the people running this country as the mad-dashers, a largely confused and inconsistent group lurching ineffectively from one enormous problem to another.
They’ve made a hash of a war that never should have been launched. They can’t find bin Laden. They’ve been shocked by the subprime debacle. They’re lost in a maze on health care.
Now, like children who have eaten too much sugar, they are frantically trying to figure out how to put a few dollars into the hands of working people to stimulate an enfeebled economy.
They should stop, take a deep breath and acknowledge the obvious: the way to put money into the hands of working people is to make sure they have access to good jobs at good wages. That has long been known, but it hasn’t been the policy in this country for many years.
Big business and the federal government have worked hand in hand to squeeze the daylights out of working people, stripping them (in an era of downsizing and globalization) of much of their bargaining power while ferociously pursuing fiscal policies that radically favored the privileged few.
My colleague at The Times, David Cay Johnston, took a look at income patterns in the U.S. over the past few decades in his new book, “Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You With the Bill).”
From 1980 to 2005 the national economy, adjusted for inflation, more than doubled. (Because of population growth, the actual increase per capita was about 66 percent.) But the average income for the vast majority of Americans actually declined during that period. The standard of living for the average family has improved not because incomes have grown, but because women have gone into the workplace in droves.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/opinio...
Yikes ... and we are due to fly BA if a bit. Hopefully, the flight will not take place on a 777 until they have this glitch worked out.
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Safety fears over crash jet's alarm failure
· Source reveals warning system faults
· Engines failed two miles from runway
Dan Milmo and Sam Jones
Saturday January 19, 2008
Guardian
The pilots of the British Airways plane that crashlanded at Heathrow on Thursday received no warning that the aircraft was losing power because of a problem with the aircraft's alarm systems, a source has told the Guardian.
Because there was no signal from the Boeing 777's automatic warning system, the pilots did not realise anything was wrong until they approached the runway and noticed the plane was losing speed more rapidly than normal. The plane "fell out of the sky" just 10ft from the ground after stalling as it came in to land.
The first details of the pilots' desperate battle to land the jet safely emerged as the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said the two engines on flight BA038 "did not respond" to a demand for increased thrust about two miles from the runway with the aircraft about 500ft above the ground. All 136 passengers and 16 crew had a miraculous escape after the aircraft skidded 400ft along the Heathrow turf.
The fact that the pilots, Captain Peter Burkill and senior first officer, John Coward, did not receive an automated warning of the drop in engine power will cause concern about the safety of systems on the 777 of which more than 600 are in service. Although all commercial aeroplanes have programmed "inhibitions" on certain warnings so that the crew are not distracted by unnecessary alarms during the crucial takeoff and landing procedures, the alarm should have been triggered when the engines failed.
Specialists from the AAIB will look at whether the Boeing 777's inhibition threshold is set too high and does not alert pilots to engine problems if they are below a certain height.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33213...
The fact that the pilots, Captain Peter Burkill and senior first officer, John Coward, did not receive an automated warning of the drop in engine power will cause concern about the safety of systems on the 777 of which more than 600 are in service
These days it's called, "American knew-how."
The largest concentration camp in the world continues his agonies under US sponsorship.
This is after putz's much-vaunted (in the US press only) *peace mission* in the ME.
Which side has the arms? Which side has 150% US backing and support no matter what its policies?
Is it any wonder that some react (even though I do not support those reactions when they are designed to hurt and terrorize)?
Palestinians who live within their own borders and who try to mind their own business are treated as *insurgents* by the occupiers. In fact, they cannot even mind their own business because therr is no money ... and now no food or medicines.
Gaza is very much like the camps set aside in Germany during the Nazi Reich for Roma ... where people were deliberately left to die, as they unsurprisingly did in large numbers. It is like areas in Transnistria where Jews and Roma performed forced labour in incredibly wretched circumstances and, also unsurprisingly, died in large numbers.
Hamas is just one excuse; the situation nearly as bad on the West Bank and Abbas has practically kissed the boots of the Israelis there.
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Israel orders closure of Gaza crossings as Palestinian anger and casualties increase
Rory McCarthy in Gaza City
Saturday January 19, 2008
Guardian
Moin al-Wadia lay on his hospital bed beneath a window yesterday, soaking up the last of the day's winter sunshine. Around him sat his family, with boxes of sweet pastries and bouquets of flowers, as they tried to explain the growing anger and frustration of the people of Gaza.
Wadia had been working at a mechanics' market on Tuesday morning when the Israeli military launched a major ground incursion, beginning a new round of intense fighting in Gaza. When he heard the sound of gunfire, Wadia began to leave but was knocked to the ground by the force of an Israeli shell. It sliced off his left foot, shattered his right leg and shrapnel lacerated his stomach.
Doctors at the Shifa hospital have told him his best chance for any kind of recovery is to leave for treatment abroad, perhaps in Jordan. But Israel closed the crossings into Gaza yesterday and prevented even UN trucks from delivering food aid.
It was the latest stage in an intensified Israeli operation in Gaza, but one which now effectively prevents food assistance coming in and people and exports going out. The UN refugee agency said the latest closure left it unable to deliver 15 truckloads of aid yesterday and warned of growing despair in Gaza, where 80% of the population already relies on UN food.
"It is my right to live and for my wife and children to live," Wadia said. "But the ordinary people are getting lost in this dispute. Of course we have to stop these rockets. Only a peace agreement can put an end to this violence and destruction." His wife, Wassima, said: "We just don't know what is happening. People talk about peace, but we see the opposite."
Last night the Gaza death toll over the past four days stood at 34, among them at least 10 civilians.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,33213...
Whoops, typing without glasses and didn't catch the *his* sponsorship; s/b *its* ... perhaps Freudian? ... LOL
The disaster in Iraq continues ...
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Clashes Kill Nearly 50 in Southern Iraq
Saturday January 19, 2008 8:01 AM
By CHRISTOPHER CHESTER
Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD (AP) - Violence left nearly 50 people dead in two major southern cities Friday when members of a shadowy, messianic cult attacked police and fellow Shiite worshippers - a year after a similar plot was foiled during Shiite Islam's most important holiday.
Iraqi authorities said at least 36 people were reported killed in Basra, Iraq's second largest city, and at least 10 in Nasiriyah, where witnesses said U.S.-led coalition jet fighters and helicopter gunships targeted a police station seized by cult gunmen.
U.S. military spokesman Maj. Brad Leighton said jet fighters flew over the area in a show of force after the Iraqis requested help, but no airstrikes were carried out. Some clashes raged into the night, raising the possibility of more casualties.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/st...
The Sunday talk show line-up as reported in the Guardian ... you saw it here first, folks.
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Guests for the Sunday TV News Shows
Saturday January 19, 2008 8:31 AM
By The Associated Press
Guest lineup for the Sunday TV news shows:
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ABC's ``This Week'' - Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.
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CBS' ``Face the Nation'' - Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.; David Axelrod, strategist for Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign; Howard Wolfson, communications director for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign.
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NBC's ``Meet the Press'' - Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian.
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CNN's ``Late Edition'' - Edwards; Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.; Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C.; Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C.
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``Fox News Sunday'' - Former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/st...
More about the US economy ... and things are not looking good.
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The week the economy turned nasty
Jeremy Warner, Business editor
Published: 19 January 2008
Retail sales plummet; gas and electricity prices soar, further eating into already squeezed disposable incomes; Citigroup and Merrill Lynch, two of the great symbols of American capitalism, forced to hand round the begging bowl among Asian and Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds after massive write-downs on US sub-prime mortgage lending.
Northern Rock teeters on the brink of nationalisation; confidence in the UK housing market drops to its lowest level since the recession of the early 1990s; share prices bludgeoned; sterling in free-fall; corporate profit warnings at a six-year high; retail investors dash to withdraw their money from collapsing commercial property funds; credit insurers downgraded, threatening multiple defaults in debt markets.
Yes, indeed. This was the week when any lingering hope that the US and UK might somehow muddle through the crisis that has engulfed the international capital markets without undue damage to the underlying economy finally seemed to evaporate.
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http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_br...
Bob Herbert has good economic advice but it is not quite what putz proposes.
But in collaborating with Bush, she splits her own party.
A study that perhaps applies perhaps to all too many of us ...
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Hermione Eyre: Generation bird-brain? It's just evolution
Published: 19 January 2008
The shifty downward gaze, the darting thumb – it was unmistakable. The man was composing a text message. The problem was that we were in the theatre. On stage, Leontes was ranting and roaring; in the front row of the audience, Mr Busy Thumbs was scrolling through predictive. He didn't even try to hide it really. He just seemed to have put the sound down on the performers, to have flipped the channel on them, while he compulsively, absently busied himself with something else for a minute or two. Concentration is a dying art.
Inattention is catching. There in the theatre, sitting in the round, it multiplied: his distraction, then mine, because of him. Because of mine, who knows who else's? "I am a feather for each wind that blows," raged Leontes. Is our attention going that way? Becoming capricious? Carried here and there like a crisp packet in a draft, a Quaver in a wind tunnel, a Pringle in a gale... Where was I? See what I mean?
This week, ChildWise, a well-established market research agency, revealed findings (based on a survey of 1,147 children across the country) which indicated that young people are increasingly given to media "multi-tasking". TV is a background hum while they eat, surf the internet and even – in the case of 63 per cent of respondents – while they are falling asleep at night. Flicking between channels, so as to watch two shows simultaneously, is habitual, the report found, particularly among boys.
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http://comment.independent.co.uk/comment...
And I'm off to catch the last few games of the 5th and final set between Federer and Tipsarevic (sp?).
It's been an interesting one.
Have good ones!
Apparently not. But maybe Edwards was.
Sorry about that last ... I am guilty of what my 143 post discusses.
Now really gone
Sorry, back to report that the apparently endless 5th set has indeed ended: 10-8 Federer.
Tipsarevic played magnificently. He should be a real comer on the tennis scene.
Federer had too many unforced errors ... not like him. Perhaps the fact that he didn't have a warm-up tourney this year is showing.
Now REALLY gone.
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Not that I care but that is not the truth I saw it listed. I presume they had it removed.
Remember she was a Goldwater Girl.
Good morning, everybody
Well, unless Sitka's moniker has been stolen, he's been here so long he can't possibly be a Republican. They don't have that much staying power.
I keep telling you all that the Bushes and Clintons were bankrolled by the same people. That's why their policies were essentially the same.
People getting rich by having public assets made available to them for their own use is nothing new. What do you think mining rights, grazing rights, development rights, trading rights, water rights, etc. were all about? It's what government did. Then, lo and behold, African Americans started agitating for equal rights, essentially demanding that government only distribute benefits that everyone could share in equally. And, to top it all off, the law makers were persuaded to open up their procedings to public inspection so everyone could see where their assets were going. Saint preserve us! Talk about unintended consequences! Few of the law makers anticipated that what they'd all been doing for their friends, cronies and supporters would suddenly be contested as illegal.
And the real irony is that these developments were prompted by people who defined themselves as "liberal" and left people with the impression that they were all in favof of individuals "doing their own thing." What was missed was that "doing their own thing" did not involved giving other people's stuff to someone else. That is, the right to exclusive ownership of public assets wasn't included. Indeed, that's what made it communistic--the attitude towards communal assets, rather than individual behavior.
The only thing that's really different since the push-back against this regime of righteousness (equal rights) got started is that the natural resources that used to be doled out as favors have gotten really scarce and that, together with the fact that more and more human activity has been monetized, has shifted the focus to money is collected and disbursed and for what.
On other thing that's different is that intimidation has fallen out of favor as a universal strategy of social control. People are no longer able to be kept in their subordinate place by a sideways look of oprobium or disgust. So, there's a valid sense that force may have to be used again when the underlings step out of line. Being able to keep order with a glance of disapproval is something that's desired by many people. It's a skill that's a lot easier to acquire than persuasive speech such as MLK employed. That it would be more just not to try to keep people down tends not to be a favored solution because it isn't nearly as much fun. The feeling that one is superior to someone else coupled with a demonstration of power is so psychically rewarding that it's hard to resist. For some reason, the sight of people bowing and scraping does a soul good.
Perhaps if we had more communal dancing...............................
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seashell :-)
Sat, 01/19/08
How voters think By David Brooks Published: January 18, 2008
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How true at least for me -- I've been trying hard not to like Huckabee -- he seems like a very likeable fellow who thinks on his feet and has good humor --- it is easy to forget he's a civil libertarian's nightmare.
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I can't figure out why Olmert is talking like he wants a Palestinian state and all and the Israelis and Palestinians continue to incite each other over Gaza. Their talk and their actions seem to have nothing to do with each other.
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Did anyone catch Larry King last night? I watched a little. The consensus seemed to be that the reason the government won't tell us about the 'visitors' is that we are nation based on earth. The old line about 'take me to your leader' -- well who is the 'leader' of earth. Prolly not US president -- prolly the Chinese leaders lead the most people in terms of population. So to acknowledge the 'visitors' is to acknowledge that we have to totally rethink the 'nation' viewpoint of earth. Actually this reminds me of something Monica seems to like to say about borders.
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This KOS diary warmed my cockles this morning, being an Atlanta homegirl:
Atlanta Journal-Constitution endorses Barack Obama
by SamGrahamFelsen
Fri Jan 18, 2008 at 09:50:29 PM PST
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1...
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re: yesterday's question about what the numbers 77, 35, 37 had in common with Haydn, Mozart, Chopin. Answer: how old they were when they died.
Trivia quiz is credited to WUFT FM in Gainesville FL.
151. The reference to the 'visitors' above is about ET's. If you watch Crop Circles the movie documentary you will believe if you don't already.
And it's 6:34 AM ET in a very rainy, chilly N FL.
143. The brain is much quicker than our eyes of fingers and multi-tasking is the norm. The only people who find this disturbing are people to whom it is important that other people be under their control and direction.
I've long noticed that the reason teachers are almost universally antagonistic towards TV is because they think that if children can sit still and attend to the TV, there's no reason why they can't attend to them with the same concentration. So, they put themselves into a competition with the TV and they never even notice that, regardless of how often or quickly the images on the TV change, the children's attention isn't captured totally. They're still attending to their environment, competing with other children for viewing and sitting space, for the right to change the channel, for the right to turn it off or on at will, etc.
There may have been a time when people sat in rapt attention in front of the TV, but I suspect that image was always more wishful thinking than reality. I remember my first interaction with a TV well. I'd been placed with a foster family that had one daughter of their own and a TV back in 1952. My failure to pay close attention to the TV during dinner and whenever it was on offer after wards was a major source of conflict, next to my preference for reading old comic books rather than "playing" with the daughter of the house. This arrangement probably lasted less than a month until this "disruptive" child was moved out and back to boarding school. At the boarding school the TV was only turned on for important events like speeches by the President.
I suspect that one of the reasons the automobile is so attractive to humans is because the landscape moves by at a rate that's more consistent with how we see things. So it's not a strain to look at a landscape that's going by at 60 miles an hour. Indeed, the brain likes that rate. At walking speed the brain gets bored and directs your attention elsewhere and then, when you fall flat on your face because you weren't looking where you were going, gets annoyed.
Is it weird to consider my brain as a separate entity? It seems natural to me. Maybe it's a consequence of my early Catholic training where much was made of "controlling one's thoughts" whcih could easily become sinful, if not closely watched. I spent many years paying close attention so I'd have something to report during confession. Not having sins to confess was a real problem because, eventually, I discovered that I had to make things up to confess--i.e. I had to lie in order to follow the directive to confess one's sins on a regular basis. I think that's when I stopped bothering. Committing sins to do the right thing! What could be more perverse?
If I'm not mistaken, the Catholic Church has since done away with the confession obligation. But, that's a problem too--more evidence that the unchanging church is in fact changing. It all started with the fish--or rather with removing the fish on Friday requirement.
Why is the side bar at the bottom of the page?
So, Hillary Clinton said she admired Ronald Reagan's communications skills--i.e. he was really good at telling lies.
I should point out that saying the opposite of what one means is a very important skill in the south--perhaps in any society where there are lots of enemies and it's sometimes hard to know who they are. Saying the opposite of what one means is a sort of code. People who mean you ill are led to think you agree with them; people who mean you well, know what you're really saying.
I would expect the Iraqis in al Anbar province to be skilled in this art. Which is why the "success of the surge" is a farce.
The sidebar has slipped to the bottom of the page in both Firefox and Opera.
There is a new thread and the sidebar is in the proper place, at least in Safari.
where is a result for the recount?
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Found this on another board.
http://glassbooth.org/>OK, I took the test.Barack Obama 81% similarity Dennis Kucinich 80% similarity Mike Gravel 80% similarity Edwards 78Clinton 76'Cain 54Pope Paul 49Gulianni 49The tall actor 46The squishy penny-loafer wearing, slick (read the fine print) salesman 44The Huckster 44
temp is an actual minus 16 here and I'm droppin layers because I'm not letting the cows out of the barn
thank god I'm not playing football this weekend
Monica you are right about the threat of equality and the relationship to civil rights and how it formed the modern Republican party
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