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Suffredin endorsed for Cook County State's Atty

Written by: Sandra Verthein on Jan 14, 2008 6:44 AM EST

Linked to groups: Northside DFA

Larry SuffredinNorthside DFA has officially endorsed Larry Suffredin for Cook County State's Attorney. 

At our January NDFA meeting we heard from five of the six Democratic candidates for Cook County State's Attorney (the sixth candidate declined our invitation to speak).  After the presentations, three of the candidates, Anita Alvarez, Tommy Brewer and Larry Suffredin were nominated by members of the group for possible endorsement.  When all votes were counted only one candidate, Comm. Suffredin, had met our 75% thhreshold for endorsement. 

Why Larry Suffredin?  I offer this quote from reformer Dick Simpson, who is UIC political science professor and former Chicago Alderman:

"In the Cook County state's attorney race, progressive Cook County Commissioner Larry Suffredin is running against Ald. Howard "Can't Pay His Rent" Brookins and Ald. Tom Allen, a party hack who has more patronage and campaign finance conflicts than one can count. Suffredin has promised to fight political corruption with a strike force that will target corrupt elected and appointed officials, government vendors and police officers. This is a novel concept in Cook County, the most corrupt county in the country. Suffredin is endorsed by unions, IVI-IPO, suburban Democratic organizations, nearly all Chicago North Side reform politicians and Secretary of State Jesse White."

Comm. Suffredin has also just been endorsed by Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr.

You can download audio recordings of all five presentations, and download minutes of the January Northside DFA meeting, here:

http://groups.google.com/group/ndfa-downloads/files

I have also included the portion of the meeting minutes that recaps the five presentations and the Q&A sessions at the end of this message.

On another topic, I just tallied up the numbers, and so far Northside DFA members have knocked on the doors of 3,089 voters on behalf of Congressional Candidate Mark Pera -- a phenomenal number!  Mark has also received the first newspaper endorsement in the race, from "The Doings" Newspaper in Western Springs.  And last night Mark participated in a candidate forum sponsored by the League of Women Voters.  According to a press release sent out by the Pera campaign, Lipinski was 20 minutes late for the event, keeping the at-capacity crowd waiting, and at the beginning of the forum he said he was unprepared to discuss two pre-assigned topics - healthcare and immigration.  A class act as usual!

We need more people out canvassing for Mark -- we will be going out Saturday and Sunday every weekend from now to the election.  For a full list of upcoming events, go to our NDFA page and scroll down:  http://www.dfalink.com/NDFA

Peace,
Sandra Verthein
Northside DFA

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NOTE:  The minutes were prepared by NDFA Recording Secretary Melissa Lindberg based on notes taken at the meeting.  They are NOT official transcripts, nor do any of the statements represent direct quotes from the candidates.  To hear exactly what the candidates said you can listen to the audio presentations at: http://groups.google.com/group/ndfa-downloads/files

COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY CANDIDATE PRESENTATIONS
AT JANUARY 3, 2008 NORTHSIDE DFA MEETING

All the State’s Attorney’s candidates were invited to present at the meeting this month.  Only Tom Allen turned down the invitation.   Each candidate was given 15 minutes: 5 minutes to speak, and 10 minutes for questions. Cynthia Fox moderated the candidate presentations.   In these notes, questions are paraphrased, as are the answers: this is not a transcription.

 

Anita Alvarez: currently Chief Deputy of the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office, overseeing day-to-day operations of more than 900 assistant state’s attorney’s.  It’s second only to Los Angeles in terms of size of a State’s Attorney’s office (sometimes known as District Attorneys).  She’s spent her entire career in the SA’s office, 21 years, since 1986.  She’s served as Supervisor of the Public Integrity Unit, was Deputy Chief of the Narcotics Bureau, and Chief of the Special Prosecutions Bureau – and has worked in Gang Crimes, and Domestic Violence as well.  She was the lead prosecutor on the Girl X case, and spoke about the painstakingly slow way Girl X testified, since she could only communicate by moving her eyes.  She spoke of her passion for the job, to be the voice of the victims, to stand up for minorities.  She stressed the importance of having an attorney in charge of the State’s Attorney’s Office, not a politician.  She noted the power to indict as a reason not to have a career politician head the office.  She is married, with 4 children, and is new to the political arena.

 

Questions:

1)      There are still staff in the State’s Attorney’s who are implicated in the John Burge torture scandal; there has been a blind eye turned to this.  What would you do to clean up the office?  Alvarez:  No tolerance for anyone associated with torture: most of those people are now gone.  There are new safeguards in place to prevent it happening again: for instance, videotaping of interrogations, more intensive training for assistant state attorneys, esp. about the need for corroborating evidence when there are confessions.

 

2)      How come there have been so few mob prosecutions in the last 40 years?  Alvarez: most of the mob cases have been federal prosecutions – they have more resources to spend on these prosecutions. 

 

3)      How come the State’s Attorney’s Office has been so weak on prosecuting political corruption? For instance, the cop who beat up a homeless man in Melrose Park, now is being prosecuted by the Feds.  Alvarez:  We were running a parallel investigation, but the feds had 10 investigators for the case to our 1.  We’re not shirking responsibilities, however the Feds work with a better statue of limitations on some of these crimes than are available under State Law, and often better sentences: so it makes sense to let the Feds lead on some of these prosecutions.  However, there is room to be more proactive in the investigations.

 

4)      How do you intend to address the budget crisis in the State’s Attorney’s Office?  Alvarez:  we need to address the crisis by going after more grant money from the Feds.  Also we can be more creative in managing our staff – for instance, start a job-sharing program for those who wish to work part-time, share a position.  Also, there is room to be more creative in creating partnerships with the private sector.

 

5)      There is a death penalty moratorium in Illinois: why is the State’s Attorney’s Office still pursuing death penalty cases?  Alvarez: the death penalty is still the law in Illinois, and as the Chief Law Enforcement Officer she has the obligation to uphold the law as it stands.  Springfield needs to delete the death penalty from the books; she upholds the law as is.

 

Website: www.AnitaAlvarez2008.com

 

Tommy Brewer:  he’s a native of Chicago, grew up in public housing, went to public schools.   He’s a former FBI agent, former assistant state’s attorney; he headed the Civil Rights Division in the Massachusetts Attorney General’s office.  He was in the office of Special Prosecutions for the Burge investigation.  He’s also a defense attorney.  There’s a new top cop now, and a need for community leadership.  Public trust in the police has been waning; the unsolved murder rates increasing due to the lack of community trust.  CSI notwithstanding, people solve crimes. 

 

Questions:

1)      There are still staff in the State’s Attorney’s who are implicated in the John Burge torture scandal; there has been a blind eye turned to this.  What would you do to clean up the office?  Brewer:  3 are judges, so … the State’s Attorney’s Office is still fighting the conviction post-petitions of those who were tortured: that needs to be changed.  Of the 8 officers from Burge’s command, 4 have retired, and 4 are still there.  They will be gone when he takes office.

 

2)      How will you assure the political independence of the office, how is it not independent now? Brewer:  Devine did not come from the Central Committee, but he does have close ties to the Mayor.  The way to change that culture is to run the office with complete professionalism, not politically.

 

3)      How do you train ASA’s to recognize the difference between criminal intent and drug addiction?  Brewer:  The conviction from having a $10 bag of crack stays with you for the rest of your life as it’s a felony conviction.  He noted the need to change the dynamic of prosecutions, stop prosecuting young first time drug offenders when the felony conviction stays with them for life and impedes them from getting jobs and becoming productive members of their communities – a cycle of violence in communities with large ex-offender populations.  These young people need to be sent to school.  We need stop not hiring drug offenders: how are they supposed to support themselves?  Most people are happier with a little disposable income.  While there needs to be justice, and there is a priority on public safety – what public safety is served when 60,000 drug offenders are paroled and can’t find jobs?  There is only one drug court in Cook County, on the northside, so it’s a real stroke of luck when drug offenders are assigned to that one court.  The system isn’t balanced.

 

4)      Traditionally, there is little coordination between the State’s Attorney and the Attorney General? Whose job is it?  Brewer: the State’s Attorney’s Office can handle consumer issues, and needs the initiative to do so.  There needs to be open communication.

 

5)      Do you favor the revision of laws regarding expunging the records of non-violent offenders?  Brewer:  Yes, he supports that: misdemeanors and non-violent felonies should be expunged – there needs to be a mechanism to support that. 

 

6)      How will you as the State’s Attorney advocate for change in laws (aka Birkett)? Brewer:  Does not support strict sentencing: the best people to decide what a sentence should be are the judges who have heard the case.  ASA’s are bound by too many rules, lack flexibility in handing cases, requesting sentences.  The State’s Attorney needs to be an active advocate with the State Legislature to bring about change.

 

Website: www.TommyBrewer08.com

 

Howard Brookins:  Currently the Alderman of the 23rd Ward – this is a far South Side ward, roughly 79th to 107th, Dan Ryan to Ashland, predominantly African American.  He is a former Assistant State’s Attorney, and Assistant Appellate Prosecutor.  He has tried everything: murder, complex civil cases, etc.  DFA is about fighting for the little people, and that’s what’ he’s doing.  He claimed to be the only candidate who will bring about real reform, for which there is a dire need.  There are issues of police brutality, misconduct: he introduced the Police Accountability Ordinance four years ago with little support (Troutman, Tilman).  He’s been fighting for accountability in the Burge case before it was popular.  There are 900 attorneys in the State’s Attorney’s Office: currently 64 of them are African American, 43 Hispanics: the office needs to reflect diversity of the population it serves and benefit from the diversity of thought that would bring.  He noted the office needs to upgrade the technology the office uses; and that only 9 attorneys are assigned to consumer fraud.  He also said they rely too much on the United States Attorneys Office to clean up corruption.

 

Questions:

1)      Do you stick up for union members in your ward? There is a reputation for union-bashing?  Brookins: There is double-digit unemployment in his ward: Wal-Mart would have come in, bringing many much-needed jobs – he had negotiated with them for higher wages, and was targeted by the unions for his support of Wal-Mart.  Unions spent $500,000 in the attempt to run him out of office.

 

2)      What is the back rent you owe on your downtown office?  Brookins:  He shares a small office, rents have gone up: he’s been negotiation with the landlord, and the Sun-Times story did not come from the landlord.  Each and every person will have a day in court, and the truth of the matter will come out.

 

3)      There are still staff in the State’s Attorney’s who are implicated in the John Burge torture scandal; there has been a blind eye turned to this.  What would you do to clean up the office?  Brookins: He has pushed for Congressional hearings into the Burge matter, and urged the USA’s to investigate.  The situation needs to be brought to justice.

 

4)      You endorsed Dick Divine for re-election: what do you see needing reform in the SA’s office?  Brookins: There needs to be an end to the status quo.  All the other candidates have ties to the Burge matter; he has the cleanest hands.  He was not in the State’s Attorney’s office long enough to affect change: he ran into roadblocks to his career while there and got out. 

 

5)      How can you affect the number of black men who should not be charged, particularly in regards to small time drug offenses?  Brookins:  African American men are 58% more likely to be prosecuted for drug offenses than white men.  We’re not going to get at the drug trade by locking up small time offenders; we need to fund treatment programs for them.  Dismiss 1st time drug offenses, prioritize what we go after: caches, hordes of illegally brought in guns, serious crimes.  African American males are more likely to be victims of serious crimes, as well as victims of racial profiling.  We need to be smart about the way we fight crime.

 

Website: www.BrookinsForJustice.com

 

Bob Milan:  Currently serving as Dick Devine’s top assistant in the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office, he’s handled cases of all kinds; was the lead prosecutor on the Brown’s Chicken trial.  He was head of a special unit to prosecute renegade police officers.  He spoke of his leadership in the office, and also spoke of the need to elect a prosecutor not a politician.  He noted the training programs that have been put in place to teach prosecutors how to deal with wrongful convictions; there is now a DNA review unit dedicated to retesting DNA of those convicts who claim innocence; and that unit has exonerated a number of men.  He implemented the videotaping of interrogations across the jurisdiction.  He led the public crusade for prosecutors to get fair pay after the public defense attorneys got a raise.  He wants to attack the homicide rate in Cook County, and expand the street corner program as well as strengthen the Internet Predators Unit, and the Child Support Program.  He reiterated that the State’s Attorney should be a career prosecutor, not an alderman or commissioner.  

 

Questions:

 

1)      Exactly what can the State’s Attorney’s Office do to prevent future Burges?  Milan: one major thing is to track complaints, and see the patterns that develop, and investigate those patterns.  Career criminals will file complaints against police officers as part of their tactics against the police, so there has to be a careful consideration of all the factors in the complaints.

 

2)      Why haven’t more grants and programs for funding been tapped?  Milan: More than a quarter of the budget is grant funded; Child Support is grant funded, Auto crimes, Sex crimes, grant funded.  We need to keep looking for more funding, but we’re tapping into a large amount now.

 

3)      There are still staff in the State’s Attorney’s who are implicated in the John Burge torture scandal; there has been a blind eye turned to this.  What would you do to clean up the office?  Milan: WHO?  (questioner does not have list, but is willing to provide it) Gave his phone number to the questioner for follow up: said he would fire anyone who has been credibly implicated in the Burge scandal immediately.

 

4)      Would interviews with victims of violent crime by police officers agree that the State’s Attorney’s Office is doing a great job prosecuting renegade police officers?  Milan: The State’s Attorney’s Office has an A+ training program to deal with investigating and prosecuting renegade police officers, the best in the country.  He has indicted 150 police officers over the course of his career.  Works well with the majority of police officers, but not afraid to go after bad cops if there is credible evidence against them.

 

5)      What is your opinion of Anita Alvarez? Milan: Very proud of her career: every lawyer in the county has a right to run for this office.

 

Website:  www.Milan08.com

 

Larry Suffredin:  Currently a Cook County Commissioner.  Joked “Glad to be here in Iowa.”  He noted that the State’s Attorney’s Office serves as the Justice Department for our county; it has never used its civil power to improve life for the residents of Cook County.  The status quo is bad: We need a total re-alignment of the office.  It needs a candidate with 1) independence; 2) experience (he’s tried more kinds of jury trials, including going to the Supreme Court) and 3) to be used in a fair way.  He noted that the judgments on what is prosecuted are not equal: there is only one drug court in Cook County.  There is not enough diversity in the Office, it needs more lawyers of color.  More community advocate offices (not Community Prosecutors Offices).  Change is what he’s about – his campaign co-chairs are Forrest Claypool and Mike Quigley; Abner Mikva and Debra Shore are also supporting his campaign.  The Office needs to go after public corruption, not just leave it to the Feds.  He can carry the suburbs and win the Lakefront, as well as winning a significant portion of the African American Community.  He also noted that SEIU and AFSME are supporting his campaign.

 

Questions:

 

1)      What are the State’s Attorney’s civil powers?  Suffredin:  the Criminal side has had the most focus, the best pay; the civil side has been the step-sister.  Civil side includes bankruptcy, etc. has the ability to generate income for the office in terms of settlements.  Should have gone after BP Amoco when they wanted to increase the pollution in Lake Michigan.  Never has gone after an environmental suit.  Has the same powers as Lisa Madigan’s Attorney General’s Office: can run parallel investigations.  The Office needs to enforce both criminal and civil law.

 

2)      Federal jurisdiction seems to rule most political corruption cases?  Suffredin:  the Office has too long allowed the United States Attorneys to handle our corruption cases; needs to have a stronger hand in prosecuting these cases.  There is plenty of authority in state law to use for the cases and get convictions in state court system; the feds can also pursue in the federal courts.

 

3)      How do we know you won’t politicize the office?  Suffredin:  I negotiated the Shakman decree for the County; and have enforced Shakman.  He noted you cannot run a system of justice that focuses on only one segment of the population (i.e., African American males). 

 

4)      What do think about TIF districts?  Not supporting Quigley’s proposal?  Suffredin:  the breakdown on each bill was too much information, would make the bills too long, not a good way to make the information available.  Need to find other meaningful ways to for citizens to be informed about TIF spending.

 

Website: www.SuffredinforStatesAttorney.org

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:00 PM EST

Andree's boys are first.

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By Tom Bearse on Jan 14, 2008 4:06 PM EST

Nancy Skinner deserves your vote in the 2008 Grassroots All-Star competion and here's why.  1) Joe Knollenberg is Bush administration factotum who couldn't find a principled vote with a map and compass; 2) She opposed Barack Obama in the Illinois primary for U.S. Senator in 2004 to prick his conscience and he still endorsed her candidacy for the House in 2006; 3) ChrisNYC is supporting her; 4) Joan Jett is in her camp; 5) Nancy has no qualms about telling right wing buffoons in the media like Bill O'Reilly where to stick it; 6) She is a unapologetic liberal; and 6) She is a U of M graduate.

Actually the last reason is just for me.  Come on, whose with me?  It won't cost you a thing and you can feel good doing it.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:10 PM EST

Nancy Skinner deserves your vote in the 2008 Grassroots All-Star competion and here's why

I preferred her over Obama in the 2004 IL Senate primary. 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 4:16 PM EST

Howard is first, as always.

This is degenerating into an AOL chat room.

Yes, I noticed that Sam left and I'm sad.

If I voted on voting records only, I wouldn't vote at all.

Please stop with the racist talk and Obama bashing....please.  Just stop it. 

bbl but perhaps much later - like 2AM when the bloggie is more civil. 

JE  is the best we've got to offer, IMO.

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Jo, I realize that the girls were not part of the campaign nor do I hold them against BO...still think it wasn't smart to insinuate a linkage but certainly wouldn't influence my vote.  And the kids were prolly just having fun.

 

 

 

 

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By Tom Bearse on Jan 14, 2008 4:16 PM EST

I also wanted to mention that Nancy Skinner has been a vocal booster of Gov. Dean for a long time, both during his run for the presidential nomination and his tenure as DNC chair. 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 4:19 PM EST

Perhaps we could rally round getting rid of critters like this!


Jason Leopold | House Passes, Considers Evangelical Resolutions
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/011408A.shtml
Jason Leopold, reporting for Truthout, writes: "A Republican congressman, who has spent the better part of the past two years on a mission to ensure Jesus Christ has a place in all aspects of federal government, has introduced a resolution to designate a week every year to honor the nation's 'rich spiritual, and religious history.'"

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By Tom Bearse on Jan 14, 2008 4:18 PM EST

seashell wrote "This is degenerating into an AOL chat room."

I don't think that's strictly true.  I think it degenerated into one quite some time ago although, having never been to an AOL chat room, I'm not sure how I would know that if it's, in fact, the case.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:18 PM EST

I just voted for Skinner, Pingree, and Stender. I'm sure the others are great too, but I'm always a sucker for a pretty face.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:20 PM EST

Perhaps we could rally round getting rid of critters like this!

Let's wait to see how many DCDems go along with it. 

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By Tom Bearse on Jan 14, 2008 4:21 PM EST

Sitka wrote "I just voted for Skinner, Pingree, and Stender."

Thanks for performing a good, honorable deed.  Maybe we are witnessing an early trend in the exit polling? 

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:22 PM EST

If I voted on voting records only, I wouldn't vote at all.

They tell you more about what will happen than promises do. 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 4:24 PM EST

Years ago, in the early 90's, I would sometimes go to chat rooms. ..similar to the stuff going on here lately....

 

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:24 PM EST

Thanks for performing a good, honorable deed.

You're welcome. But I don't need to be thanked for doing what I think is right. If I did, I'd be expecting thanks continuously.

 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 4:28 PM EST

They tell you more about what will happen than promises do.

Wide sweeping promises don't capture my attention.

And people are able to change and move outta the past....I'll go with my gut.  now gone   

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:27 PM EST

Years ago, in the early 90's, I would sometimes go to chat rooms. ..similar to the stuff going on here lately...

<>People have always chatted here. The only difference between now and 2003 is that back then we had candidate Dean to rally around -- and a few hundred more bloggers. 
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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:28 PM EST

And people are able to change and move outta the past...

Especially when the polls change.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:34 PM EST

And people are able to change and move outta the past...

Especially when the polls change.

And some don't need to since they were right in the first place. 

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By Huron John on Jan 14, 2008 4:39 PM EST

A comment on Michigan's photo ID Law:

My bride and I both voted early last Thursday at Port Huron City Hall. The very nice clerk asked neither of us for any ID--photo or otherwise, albeit we did show our voter cards.

I voted for a candidate other than HRC.

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 4:40 PM EST

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

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in Nevada it is a head count again

I predict an Obama win.
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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:39 PM EST

I voted for a candidate other than HRC.

I hope it was Kucinich since you've promted him here. 

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:40 PM EST

in Nevada it is a head count again

Even heads need to be counted honestly. 

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 4:42 PM EST

As Paul Krugman writes today in The New York Times:

"On the Democratic side, John Edwards, although never the front-runner, has been driving his party's policy agenda. He's done it again on economic stimulus: last month, before the economic consensus turned as negative as it now has, he proposed a stimulus package including aid to unemployed workers, aid to cash-strapped state and local governments, public investment in alternative energy, and other measures."

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 4:43 PM EST

Christopher Hayes writes in The Nation:

"The fact remains that the Edwards campaign has set the domestic policy agenda for the entire field. He was the first with a bold universal health care plan, the first with an ambitious climate change proposal that called for cap-and-trade, and the leader on reforming predatory lending practices and raising the minimum wage to a level where it regains its lost purchasing power."

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By Pat in Colorado on Jan 14, 2008 4:42 PM EST

Hi Folks,

Just a quck drop in.  Since Hillary Clinton has been a topic, here's an excerpt from a piece in the Huffington Post on Friday.  I'll post the URL in the next post.  This describes here activist background.  

By the way, I'm not supporting Hillary Clinton, but I believe in getting the information out on all the canidates.

 

In her presidential campaign, she focuses on her accomplishments as an agent for change as First Lady and as a first-term Senator. She takes credit for a handful of legislative achievements. She rarely talks about her political activism in college, law school, and while serving as Arkansas' first lady. Although she was never a 1960s radical, she absorbed many of her generation's ideas about the need for progressive change.

After Rev. Martin Luther King was killed in 1968, Clinton, then a student government leader at Wellesley College, helped organize a two-day strike and worked closely with the few black students on campus to organize teach-ins and other activities to pressure the college to recruit more black students and faculty. That year, she traveled to New Hampshire for Sen. Eugene McCarthy's anti-war campaign for president. She wrote her senior thesis in 1969 about the legendary Saul Alinsky, the Chicago activist who is considered the founding father of community organizing. As part of her research, Clinton traveled to Chicago to interview Alinsky. She concluded her report by placing him in the political company of Socialist Eugene Debs, poet Walt Whitman and Martin Luther King Jr. - describing Alinsky as a champion of "the most radical of political faiths - democracy." (For several years, Wellesley agreed to keep the thesis under lock and key, in response to a request from Clinton. It is now available on-line and in the college library.)

She entered Yale Law School in 1969, one of the handful of women in her class. There, she worked with the attorney for Black Panthers accused of murder and clerked one summer for the left-wing lawyer Robert Treuhaft in Berkeley. In 1970, with a grant from the Law Student Civil Rights Research Council, she worked for the Washington Research Project, where she became friends with civil rights lawyer Marian Wright Edelman and began her ongoing interest in children's rights. Later, when Edelman founded the Children's Defense Fund, a liberal research and lobby group for children, Hillary Clinton to serve on its board from 1976 to 1992, and as its chair from 1986 to 1991.

In 1972, she and Bill Clinton, whom she'd met at Yale, worked on George McGovern's anti-war campaign for president. In 1974, while Bill was teaching law in Arkansas, she worked for Joan Doar, the House Judiciary Committee's special counsel, on the impeachment of Richard Nixon. When she got married in 1973, she continued to use her maiden name, Hillary Rodham, as did many feminists of her generation. But in 1980, when Bill lost his re-election bid for Governor of Arkansas and they both tried to adopt a more moderate image, she began using the name Clinton.

 

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 4:44 PM EST
As Ezra Klein writes in The American Prospect:
"Much more so than Obama, it was Edwards who forced a new style of politics, untethered by the fear and timidity of the 90s, adamant that liberalism was an electoral boon and economic justice a popular sentiment. Knowing they had to defend against his challenge, both Hillary and Obama edged closer to his appeal.

"It left the Democrats in a much stronger position overall, and forced them to argue for, and commit to, a much broader and more inspiring agenda than we otherwise might have seen."
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By Joan* In*Florida on Jan 14, 2008 4:46 PM EST

Let's hope bickering like this blog has over candidates does not represent the country as a whole.

We have had some good candidates, most of whom have Republicans salivating. And we have a excellent opportunity of taking back the WH and have a Dem Congress to boot.

It is Dems who defeat themselves who are the problem. Whether we support Edwards or Obama is not the problem. The problem is us. We are only defeating ourselves by promoting "misinformation," and rumors that attack one of these candidates.

For me, I support Obama, but I could certainly live with Edwards as president. The only thing I could never accept or support is Clinton.

Let's just bash Clinton and leave the Obama or Edwards bashing up to the Republicans and the Clintons.

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By Pat in Colorado on Jan 14, 2008 4:44 PM EST

The essay is by Peter Dreier and is entitled "Hillary Should be the Next Edward Kennedy"

Here's the URL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/hillary-clinton-should-be_b_80803.html

Sorry, but I don't know how to make it blue and alive.

Phil, 

That's pretty impressive about Edwards.  #23 #24. 

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 4:46 PM EST
In this campaign, the other candidates have followed John's lead in talking about the special interests -- but the special interests understand the difference between rhetoric and reality. That's why corporate lobbyists are united against John Edwards.

As Kevin Drawbaugh reports for Reuters:
"Ask corporate lobbyists which presidential contender is most feared by their clients and the answer is almost always the same -- Democrat John Edwards. One business lobbyist said an Edwards presidency would be a 'disaster' for his well-heeled industrialist clients.

'I think Hillary is approachable. She knows where a lot of her funding has come from to be blunt,' said Greg Valliere, chief political strategist at Stanford Group Co., a market and policy analysis group."
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By Pat in Colorado on Jan 14, 2008 4:46 PM EST

The title is "Hillary Clinton Should Be the Next Ted Kennedy".

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:49 PM EST

"On the Democratic side, John Edwards, although never the front-runner, has been driving his party's policy agenda.

"The fact remains that the Edwards campaign has set the domestic policy agenda for the entire field.

I've thought it was Kucinich keeping the rest honest. 

it was Edwards who forced a new style of politics, untethered by the fear and timidity of the 90s

By going along with the worst of Bush's agenda? Puhleeeeeeze! 

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:52 PM EST

"Ask corporate lobbyists which presidential contender is most feared by their clients and the answer is almost always the same -- Democrat John Edwards. One business lobbyist said an Edwards presidency would be a 'disaster' for his well-heeled industrialist clients.

It goes from "Ask corporate lobbyists...." to "One business lobbyist said......." LOL

But I don't let people I disrespect, like lobbyists, tell me how to vote one way or another. 

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By Joan* In*Florida on Jan 14, 2008 4:56 PM EST

Please vote for CLINT CURTIS FL-24

If we're going to promote our favorites in the Grassroots vote,

Please vote for Clint Curtis. He's running against Tom Feeney, one of the worse Republicans Florida has ever sent to Washington.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 4:55 PM EST

Let's just bash Clinton and leave the Obama or Edwards bashing up to the Republicans and the Clintons.

Better still, just tell the truth about all of their records and promises without smarmy flatitudes and baseless smears. 

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By Monica Smith on Jan 14, 2008 5:00 PM EST

Clint Curtis is the fellow with the info about "fixing" the voting software, right?  What ever happened with that?

Was it just a publicity stunt? 

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By Joan* In*Florida on Jan 14, 2008 5:18 PM EST

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Yes, that's him. As a programmer for Wang & Co. he was approached by Feeney to fix the software in his district so that he would win.

Curtis refused. He was a Republican at the time, and switched parties shortly after Feeney won the race. It appears nothing was ever really done about it despite the evidence. Feeney has also been implimented in Abramoff stuff, but again, he walks free and is running again.

Curtis was at a meeting we were at two years ago held by the Florida Fair Voting group. He spoke and told all. Smart guy, nice personality. 

Feeney was one of the most corrupt politicians in Tallahassee when he was there as a legislator.

He had a hand in redistricting his own district so that it was leaned Republican, dumping the Democrats in other districts. His district has been changing and his reputation so tarnished so a Dem might have a good shot at it.

Clint Curtis ran against Feeney last election as well, but lost. We need to keep trying until the dirt gets swept out.

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By Joan* In*Florida on Jan 14, 2008 5:22 PM EST

The VP of our little Dem Club here has dual citizenship by birth in America and Panama. She is planning on moving to Panama if Clinton wins the WH.

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 5:23 PM EST

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. - A car driven by the daughter of Democratic presidential hopeful John Edwards was hit by another auto, but she wasn't injured.

The other driver, Carol Small of Durham, was cited by police for driving while impaired. The accident occurred while Cate Edwards was driving in downtown Chapel Hill on Friday afternoon, according to a police report.

"She was hit from behind by a drunk driver," John Edwards said when asked about the accident following a town hall event in Pawleys Island, S.C. "She's doing fine."

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By Pat in Colorado on Jan 14, 2008 5:33 PM EST

Another excerpt about Hillary Clinton from today's Huffington Post.

Next I'll post title and URL

 

She claims that George W. Bush is the worst president we've ever had. Yet in her entire time in the Senate she has never led one successful fight against him. She has either lost every legislative battle on Iraq, or worse yet, been complicit. The vote to authorize the war was one thing, but how about all of the votes to continue and support Bush's war for all of the remaining years? Let alone every other issue on which Bush got exactly what he wanted, up to and including this year, when the Democrats and Senator Clinton were theoretically in charge.

I understand that leaders are supposed to lead. Yet, I have never seen Senator Clinton lead her fellow Democrats in a successful challenge of President Bush. Never. That's a pretty awful record.

Now, it would be one thing if George Bush was a popular president who was hard to defeat politically. But in fact, he is the opposite. He is the most deeply unpopular president of our lifetimes. And Hillary Clinton kept getting her ass kicked by that guy.

That's the real criticism that should be leveled against Hillary Clinton. Yet I have almost never seen anyone make this point on TV. Part of the reason for that, of course, is because her opponents, Barack Obama and John Edwards did no better in their time in the Senate. So, they are embarrassed into an awkward silence on the matter.

The reason I hold Senator Clinton to a higher standard, other than the fact that she has been there longer, is that she had the biggest name recognition and could have led her fellow Democrats -- but chose not to. Instead she chose accommodation and capitulation. That's a record worth criticizing, if anyone ever got around to it.

 

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By Annilow on Jan 14, 2008 5:33 PM EST

I love the media - now CNN and their pundits are making the Obama/Hillary fluff up sound like Howard's fault -- Howard they say should step in and stop the fighting for the good of the Democratic party.

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By Pat in Colorado on Jan 14, 2008 5:35 PM EST

The title is "The Real Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Cenk Uygur

URL                         http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-real-case-against-hil_b_81248.html 

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By rae hart on Jan 14, 2008 5:36 PM EST

Zoe Lofgren endorses Barack ObamaCongresswoman cites unity, 'hope for the world' in decision"Sen. Clinton and I are both baby boomers. We've both got plenty left to contribute to our country in the United States Congress. But I'm happy now to share the limelight with the next generation. I'm glad that someone with Barack Obama's intelligence, leadership and character can be our next President. It's time for a change." http://origin.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7968934?nclick_check=1

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By rae hart on Jan 14, 2008 5:47 PM EST

Clinton Receives Tepid Reception at MLK Event

But Mrs. Clinton’s appearance and remarks, before the Local 32BJ union in midtown Manhattan, were not exactly a smash. The audience, made up mostly of security guards, applauded steadily when she entered but did not roar – and there were a few scattered boos. Much of her speech was met with silence. Less than half of the room gave her a standing ovation when she left.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/clinton-receives-tepid-reception-at-mlk-event/

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Jan 14, 2008 5:49 PM EST

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Awesome news! I was just wondering yesterday how she'd lean. She was the first US Congress member that endorsed Howard during his run.

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 5:53 PM EST
Two years ago, California filed a waiver request with the EPA, seeking permission to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from automobiles -- like similar waivers which have been issued to California 50 times in the past and never denied. The agency dragged its feet for two years and faced a lawsuit for the delay, only to deny the waiver request in December.

The Bush Administration argues that granting California's waiver request would establish a complicated "patchwork" of state regulation standards. But in reality, there are only two standards: the federal standard (which is the minimum standard) and the California standard, which is stronger.  14 other states have joined California and would use our higher standard, and 4 more states intend to do the same.  The federal government should encourage -- not stymie -- the efforts of 19 states, representing more than half of all Americans, to fight global warming. 

Last year, Administrator Johnson told our Committee that the EPA needed more time to make a decision on California's waiver request because it was "performing a rigorous analysis." However, according to an article in the Washington Post, the EPA Administrator ignored the advice of his technical and legal staff and denied our waiver request anyway.

It is outrageous that the Bush EPA has denied California's legitimate waiver request, overruling the advice of its own staffers.  We deserve to know why.

Why did EPA Administrator Johnson overrule all of his legal and technical experts?  What role did the White House, the automobile industry, and Vice President Cheney have in politicizing a decision that should have been based purely on science and legal precedent?

The EPA is accountable to Congress and to the people of the United States, and it's time for Administrator Johnson to tell us the truth.

Forward an email to EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson now, demanding that he release all the documents about his decision and come clean with the American people!

Thank you for your help.

In Friendship,

Barbara Boxer
U.S. Senator

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By Annilow on Jan 14, 2008 6:03 PM EST

Snark! BBC World News just did a piece on the Hill/Obama fluff up. That dry Brit wit -- the reporter ended with a clip of Hillary nodding her head back and forth to church music and the reporter voices over something like ... "and Hillary Clinton shows that even a white woman has rhythm." LOL. Then the commentator/anchor said 'that last was a joke by the way.' Guess you have to spell it out for us.

This is 'out of context' b/c I wasn't really listening to the entire piece.

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By mary vb on Jan 14, 2008 6:04 PM EST

I'm getting more and more outraged at the campaign the Clinton's are running. But I'm tired of hearing the press say *Obama and Clinton are sparring*. No, THEY'RE not -- it's the dirty tricks of the Clintons.


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By Denise in San Mateo County on Jan 14, 2008 6:08 PM EST

It IS easy being green!

Nice article from today's Tribune with many tips to help the environment

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/c...

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By Huron John on Jan 14, 2008 6:11 PM EST

I voted for a candidate other than HRC.

I hope it was Kucinich since you've promted him here.

It was--only other choice other than uncommitted was Gravel

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:16 PM EST

We shall see.

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:20 PM EST
Interesting:  With all these *wonderful* candidates, the people are not impressed.  I would think they would feel hopeful with the BO/HC blitz, but apparently not.

 

75% of Americans Says Country Is On Wrong Track, A Record High

icon gravatar.comwww.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/13/opinion/polls/main3706504...
sent by emf since 8 hours 58 minutes, published about 4 hours 51 minutes Three in four Americans think the country is off on the wrong track, matching the highest number recorded in the twenty-five years since CBS News began asking the question. Only 19% say it is headed in the right direction, matching the all-time low reached last June. Concern about the direction of the country is accompanied by growing alarm about the condition of the economy.
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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:22 PM EST

If JE were in the lead, I would certainly say that the country was finally on the right track.  But that's me.

 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:28 PM EST


"...if anyone's in doubt: yes, Edwards is pissing off the right people." -- grannyhelen

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As the primary process continues, amidst the daily barrage of broadsides fired from one campaign onto another, it's worth remembering that John Edwards is still talking about real issues.

John Edwards' campaign isn't about him. It's about us. It's about taking back power from the wealthy elites who want to run this country and putting it in our hands. It's about finally taking on the corporations that dominate more and more of the American economy. It's about challenging the system.

And it's pissing off the all right people.


Let's start with Rupert Murdoch. My, how John Edwards has pissed that man off.

Sure, Murdoch hates John Edwards because Edwards led the way amongst presidential candidates in pulling out of the Faux-news debates, helping expose his propaganda network for what it is.

But he hates John Edwards even more because John Edwards has spoken out publicly against the monopolization of America's media outlets into the hands of a small number of plutocrats like Murdoch. Murdoch's media empire fired back, calling Edwards a hypocrite, leaking confidential information, all in an attempt to smear John Edwards to avoid talking about the real issues.

Just look at the bile and vitriol spilling from these New York Post headlines. Two of the most savage attacks were directed as much as Nataline Sarkisyan and Elizabeth Edwards' as they were at Edwards.

Of course, Rupert Murdoch isn't the only right-wing corporatist to go after John Edwards with personal attacks.

Take the far-right Washington Times, for example. In the view of the editorial pages, Edwards is a "widely scorned" "sanctimonius hypocrite." All in all, the Times says, "Mr. Edwards's rank hypocrisy is boundless." On the bright side, he's "well-coifed" but "not ready for prime time."

Then there's that corporate wet dream, Mitt Romney, who apparently has quite a violent streak.

    Every time I listen to someone like John Edwards get on TV and say there are two Americas I just want to throw something at the TV. -- Willard

You see, the problem isn't that there actually are two Americas -- one populated by wealthy elites like Mitt Romney, the other by just about everybody else. The problem is that people like John Edwards talk about the inequity of it all, and some day, the American public might decide to shove a big fat FU right in Mitt Romney's face.

Hell, even the Republican party can't stand Mitt Romney, the corporate swine.

As jamess diaried, big business is putting John Edwards on notice.

    With the nation's economy increasingly becoming a volatile issue in the presidential campaign, the president of the United States Chamber of Commerce is about to issue one very tough promise to spend millions of dollars against candidates deemed to be anti-business. (Are you listening John Edwards?)

National Review, the rag read by the nation's conservative elite, just absolutely can't stand John Edwards. Byron York asks the probing question: "Is Edwards a phony?" Talk about expensive haircuts -- York knows a thing or two about those, I might guess. Rich Lowry affectionately (sic) calls John Edwards "The Hater" and accuses him of "unbridled hostility."

The grand-daddy of the entire crew of corporate warriors, one William F. Buckley, actually is an exception to the "if you fear, smear" rule of thumb. He understands that populism is a grave and serious danger to the plutocracy. So he does something almost unimaginable amongst these reactionaries: he actually engages Edwards on the issues. Sort of.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/1/12/155216/311 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:31 PM EST

Isn't this interesting?

For the Blowhards Who Insist It's a Two-Way Race... by David Sirota | January 14, 2008 - 3:32pm | permalink
article tools: email | print | read more David Sirota

For those of you who think the Democratic presidential nomination fight is just a two-way race between Obama and Clinton, check out this brand new poll from the Reno Gazette-Journal. Yup, that's right - it shows the Nevada caucus race a three-way, dead heat with John Edwards right in the mix.

Interestingly, this poll comes right on the heels of the Establishment viciously ratcheting up its angry attacks on the Edwards candidacy. Late last week, we saw a Reuters story headlined "Corporate Elite Fear Candidate Edwards" detailing how Wall Street moneymen and K Street lobbyists are frightened about Edwards populist, power-challenging message against greed and corruption. We also saw self-anointed Democratic "expert" Lawrence O'Donnell pen a fulminating screed demanding Edwards get out of the race - not surprising coming from a man who made his name running the U.S. Senate Finance Committee - long the most corrupt, lobbyist-ravaged panel in all of Washington (somehow, running the U.S. Congress's version of a pay-to-play casino now makes people credile "experts" in campaign strategy and political morality).

» article continues...

 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:32 PM EST
New Poll: Democratic race in Nevada a dead heat

A new poll by the Reno Gazette-Journal shows a neck-and-neck three-way race among Democrats for Saturday's caucus. On the Republican side, U.S. Sen. John McCain has taken his first lead in Nevada of the election season, and Mitt Romney, who has been working Nevada harder than any other Republican, is trailing in fourth place.

A look at the top line results (more will be posted later this morning):

Barack Obama: 32 percent
Hillary Clinton: 30 percent
John Edwards: 27 percent
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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:33 PM EST
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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:38 PM EST

— from Freedom Rider blog

Bravo to Ms. Magazine for making the right decision. It is a decision that will bring them unjustified criticism, but I hope they will not back down.

The American Jewish Congress submitted an ad to Ms. featuring the photos of three Israeli political leaders, President of the Supreme Court Dorit Beinish, Vice Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs Tzipi Livni and Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik. The text underneath the photos reads "This is Israel."

Ms. was right to reject the ad. The ad would be seen as a statement of support for the Israeli government. The Ms. mission of promoting women's rights around the world would be tainted if the magazine began making statements of support for Israel or for any other government. The ad implicitly does just that.

Of course, the AJC wasted no time in saying that the ad rejection showed "hostility to Israel." They also created a straw man by pointing out that Ms. has featured articles about Arab women and about Nancy Pelosi's leadership in Congress. The AJC would have a good point if they were referring to the acceptance of similar ads, but that is not the case. Instead they prove the flimsiness of their argument by comparing the apple of articles to the oranges of advertisements.

The real reason the AJC has its collective pants in a twist is because Ms. has written critically about Israel's foreign policy and about the plight of Palestinian women living under Israel's occupation. That is the true cause of the bogus outrage.

By the way, if the AJC is so eager to put the lives of Israeli women in the spotlight, they should submit an ad about Moshe Katsav. Katsav is the former president who resigned after being on the verge of indictment for raping two female employees. In return for sparing the government embarrassment, he was allowed to plead guilty to sexual harassment. His accusers now have no legal recourse.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/12133 

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By mainefem on Jan 14, 2008 6:39 PM EST

Chellie Pingree (running against *five men* in her CD#1 Maine primary), Nancy Skinner, and John Laesch (also endorsed by Blue America '08 & Noam Chomsky).

Chellie's a a tough progressive cookie.

She'll hopefully be Maine's first Democratic Rep. ever sent to D.C. (and the first feminist ever). Unlike those two pathetic not-at-all-"moderate" Senators we've got representing Maine (Collins & Snowe). Ugh.

www.pingreeforcongress.com

I support Chellie on my ActBlue page, natch:

http://www.actblue.com/page/mf

And Barb listed me twice on her supporter/endorsement page.

Oopsie. That's fine (one for Kiah--he can't type).

http://chelliepingree.com/chellie/endors...

Give 'em hell, Chellie!





FDL's Laesch thread today:

http://tinyurl.com/2ozduc

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:42 PM EST
Layla Anwar – An Arab Woman Blues: Indicting the Reader by Garda Ghista | January 14, 2008 - 8:43am | permalink
article tools: email | print | read more Garda Ghista

Layla Anwar is the pseudonym for an Iraqi blogger, in her early to mid-forties, who appears to be writing directly from Baghdad, right in the line of fire, so to speak. She comes from a secular, upper-middle class, Sunni background and remains loyal to Saddam Hussein. Unlike the blogger Baghdad Burning, Layla does not write for the American left. Rather, she writes to all Americans, including the American left, and condemns us all along with the Bush-Cheney regime. She indicts every single American for being a part of the destruction and devastation of her motherland. She writes to the enemy.

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By * rdorgan on Jan 14, 2008 6:45 PM EST

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080114/pl_nm/usa_politics_nevada_dc_4

Obama takes narrow lead over Clinton in Nevada

By Adam Tanner

2 hours, 23 minutes ago

RENO, Nevada (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama took a small lead over rival Hillary Clinton in Nevada ahead of Saturday's caucus, the party's next contest, according to a poll released on Monday.

A Reno Gazette-Journal poll of 500 likely caucus goers found 32 percent favoring Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, 30 percent for Clinton, a senator from New York, and 27 percent for former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

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Clinton had a strong lead in Nevada polls as recently as a month ago and has the backing of many in the Democratic party there.

Obama received a boost last week when the state's largest union, the Culinary Union, endorsed him and began urging its 60,000 members to show up in mass on Saturday.

Yet a lawsuit filed on Friday challenging caucus locations inside the famous Las Vegas casino hotels where many Culinary Union workers are employed could blunt the impact of union backing if the challenge is successful.

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:47 PM EST

This is like a bat!

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Folks, we are trying to create a statement that makes it impossible for the news media to continue to ignore our candidate. We want to designate Friday Jan 17 as the day we break all records for a single day donation by raising $7,000,000 for John Edwards. Remember this amount will be matched.

From dkos: I would like to suggest Friday, January 18, as the day to shatter both the record and the media's tinted glass ceiling on coverage. This would give us all five days to publicize the effort. If successful, it should generate some press in time for the Sunday papers and news programs. Then on Monday, there is the debate in South Carolina, where Edwards could promote the results. This would then be followed by the primary on Saturday which, hopefully, would benefit from the newly enhanced press attention.
[br />If we believe that the media is unfairly slanting coverage, it is up to us to do something about it. We must not let them make our decisions for us. By thrusting Edwards' visibility forward with financial support that makes the press do a double take, we are effectively slapping the collective faces of the reporters who think they know what they're talking about; of the pundits who think they know what's best; of the blowhards like Bill O'Reilly who dismissively wave off our candidates as phonies and losers.]

 

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By seashell on Jan 14, 2008 6:50 PM EST


Release Date
November 15, 2007          
Contact: Mike Wessler
(406) 859-8683
mikew@vote-smart.org

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FAIL TO DEMONSTRATE POLITICAL COURAGE

Manchester, NH / Washington, DC - Project Vote Smart has released the results of its Presidential Political Courage Test, which showed 55% of presidential candidates were willing to expose their positions on issues of obvious concern to citizens. This represented an 8% decline in the candidates' willingness to provide such crucial information to citizens since 2004. This also demonstrated the candidates' increasing interest in controlling the public's access to information regarding their intentions on issues.

Most startling, only three candidates receiving major media attention were willing to provide specific issue information to voters:

    * Chris Dodd
    * John Edwards
    * Mike Gravel
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By * rdorgan on Jan 14, 2008 6:53 PM EST
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I love the media - now CNN and their pundits are making the Obama/Hillary fluff up sound like Howard's fault -- Howard they say should step in and stop the fighting for the good of the Democratic party.

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I still remember at the 04 dem convention when Dean spoke to a crowd standing on their feet in raucus applause.

Hillary stayed seated, with a frown.

Looks like she had Dean envy, and still has it. 

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By rae hart on Jan 14, 2008 6:55 PM EST
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By * rdorgan on Jan 14, 2008 7:00 PM EST
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rae -

Well someone has to dampen it down when the one who started it -- Hillary -- won't (apologize).  Just like she won't (apologize) for her vote to authorize the U.S. to go to war (aka invasion) in Iraq.

 

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By rae hart on Jan 14, 2008 6:59 PM EST
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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 7:02 PM EST
Mood for a fight in UK-Russia row By Richard Galpin
BBC News, Moscow
The latest flare-up between Moscow and London over the future of the British Council in Russia was entirely predictable.

Both sides have dug themselves into heavily fortified positions over the past month from which they are refusing to shift.

It has become a test of wills and it is now a question of who will blink first.

Or alternatively, whether the Russian government will decide to use force to close the British Council's office in St Petersburg.

There was no way the Russians would tolerate such open defiance of a clear order issued last month for the St Petersburg and Yekaterinburg offices to shut down by the New Year.

The anger of the government was fully expressed in the abrupt summons of the British ambassador Sir Anthony Brenton to the foreign ministry in Moscow on Monday.

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By Denise in San Mateo County on Jan 14, 2008 7:02 PM EST

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By mainefem on Jan 14, 2008 7:02 PM EST

Chellie:

Against Iraq from the get-go, prochoice always (not when it's convenient--ardent Second Waver feminist, single Mom--raised three kiddos (her adult daughter, Hannah, is our House Majority Leader!); sued the feds (and won) over our right to reimport "Canuck" drugs for senior citizens (inception of Maine Rx Plus program); pro net neutrality; formulated Maine's Clean Elections Act (for Gubernatorial, municipal, county, and state legislative races--took years); and is a pitbull w/deregulating the power of the MSM.

Most recently (termed out of ME Senate), was Pres. of Common Cause.

Co-Owner of Nebo Lodge (if you're visiting North Haven, ME--reserve well in advance during peak summahtime):

http://www.nebolodge.com/



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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 7:05 PM EST

Obama Damps Down Racial Controversy

The Clintons will ramp it right back up. They're out of real arguments. 

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 7:10 PM EST

Most startling, only three candidates receiving major media attention were willing to provide specific issue information to voters:

    * Chris Dodd
    * John Edwards
    * Mike Grave
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That's some winning company Edwards is keeping. If I'm "throwing my vote away" (as no less a personage than Phil has called it) it might as well be for one who never voted for the worst of Bush's agenda. 

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By rae hart on Jan 14, 2008 7:11 PM EST
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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 7:14 PM EST

By NOAH TRISTER, AP FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. - Darren McFadden isn't sticking around for another run at the Heisman Trophy. The Arkansas All-American announced Monday he'll skip his senior season and enter the NFL draft

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the news of the day

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 7:16 PM EST

 (as no less a personage than Phil has called it)

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source?

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 7:18 PM EST

I have advocated voting your heart and your head consistantly and in MI, I hope that means a Kucinich landslide, given the choices.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 7:19 PM EST

source?

Apparently my memory of what you've said is better than yours. You were referring to voting for Kucinich as a matter of principle as throwing it away. It makes sense if you now no longer think that not voting for the winner is a waste.

 

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By mary vb on Jan 14, 2008 7:21 PM EST

The problem isn't just with Hillary -- it' the former President who just won't shut the eff up.

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 7:23 PM EST

The problem isn't just with Hillary -- it' the former President who just won't shut the eff up.

That's because his role in this campaign is the same as Elizabeth Edwards' has been -- the attack dog who can't be attacked back. 

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 7:26 PM EST

I have advocated voting your heart and your head consistantly

That's exactly what I advocated in response to your assertion that voting for Kucinich is a wasted vote. In fact, I've been saying it for many months as I'm sure others would attest.

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By rae hart on Jan 14, 2008 7:28 PM EST

Hey guys new thread - with great news about Kucinich.

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By Phil Specht on Jan 14, 2008 7:34 PM EST

I have consistantly advocated the position of "my vote is my voice" and even went so far as advance an idea to the rules process to give every registered Democrat in America the exact same say in selecting the nominee.(with extended absentee ballot only voting)

If everyone voted their head and the heart; the party and its nominee would truly represent the members (and yes I do think the name on the line Democratic Party should be decided by Democrats).

the wasted vote is the one not cast

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By Sitka on Jan 14, 2008 7:42 PM EST

the wasted vote is the one not cast

I said that a long time ago too -- verbatim. 

Now i see why you like Edwards so much. He plagerizes others and tries to change his record. 

and even went so far as advance an idea to the rules process to give every registered Democrat in America the exact same say in selecting the nominee.

Yeah, I know all about exclusionary viewpoint. It's bad politics. 

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