Gov. Howard Dean, MD, DNC Chr. is first here.

What new title in the coming year?

Happy Birthday Howard !!

Happy Birthday Howard Dean.

Here's a video from CNN last night....short post debate interview with him.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/11/15/long.howard.dean.interview.cnn

Can't find the one he did pre-debate with Blitzer.  Looks like some Deaniac would have it up on You Tube by now.

And more:  Tired of people comparing Howard Dean and Ron Paul.  They are nothing alike at all.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1649

I can think of a new title for the next year, audrey...DFA chairman and SAKAL.   That way he would not have to talk like the DC insiders.

Here's what a SAKAL does.

http://www.liberaloasis.com/archives/110704.htm#110904

Happy Birthday, Howard!

I don't understand, Phil, why you attribute hate crimes to Lou Dobbs.  Did I miss something? 

Floridagal....

I'm waiting for Pres. Howard Dean.

Just got back from our college trip but wanted to wish Howard a very happy birthday.

I miss him during this primary season. sigh...

Nite all.

Seashell...

I didn't get that either. Maybe Phil will explain.

intellectual blessing of mainstream media for division compliments rovian politics such that objects of hate have to be created out of difference

 for the politics of division to work by creating fear and anger of the different

hate groups just see themselves as a natural part of the political spectrum if Tom Tancredo can be on stage as a legitimate Republican Presdidential candidate

Lou Dobbs gives them cover

divide and conquer

us and "them"

Republican politics depends on it

makes a Lou Dobbs essential

us and "them"

the core of all hate groups

fix the clock

11:12

mary posted before I started posting

it is impossible to carry on a diologue with a broken clock

Happy Birthday Howard.

audrey

that set of posts is my explanation

ÅTTN:  HQ

We have til Dec. 11 to register our opinions to the FCC which is trying to further consolidate the media.

Let's get behind this as the spunky DFA group that we are, instead of having piddly letters going out to the FCC.   Post the info on a thread, along with all necessary phone numbers, email addys, names etc.

Without something to focus on and get behind, this blog is not functioning up to capacity.  Look how we influenced the Feinstein issue.  Please, put us to work. 

Frankly, I think the WH gives them cover.

Plus, hate crimes were here long before Dobbs had his show. 

The divide and conquer couple are bush/cheney.

is is...couple IS

Phil....

I'm not making the connection. Are you saying that all anti immigration from Mexico is racist?

Immigration works as a Republican issue.

demonstrates the failure of Government (to secure border) 

creates "them" (see above)

aren't islamofascists brown too?

Democrats allow it to be "the" issue of 2008 at their peril.

a Republican President will sign domestic Blackwater contracts

ALERT:
MILK FROM CLONES TO HIT U.S. MARKET SOON
The Senate is still wrangling over the 2007-2012 Farm Bill. One new consumer-friendly amendment, vehemently opposed by the biotech industry, would force the FDA to reverse its current controversial regulations on milk from cloned animals. Despite widespread opposition from the OCA and other consumer groups, the FDA has approved the commercialization of milk from cloned animals as "safe" and will not require labels. The newly proposed Mikulski amendment to the 2007 Farm Bill would require the FDA to place a temporary moratorium on cloned milk and examine its potential health hazards for animals and humans. We have updated our Farm Bill alert to address this issue. Contact your Senators here:
Take action here: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_7765.cfm

HBD - HD!!!

Lou Dobbs is a mixed bag.  Many say that his 'outbursts' and diatribes are 'scripted' for - ratings.

If you watch his show (I don’t any more) Dobbs  has NEVER received an email that disagreed with him, on the contrary – they are, every one of them, telling him how great he is.  That’s a fix.  He is second in viewers only to Larry King on CNN and making lots of money and MORE money from his books.  He appeals to a certain group of people on the immigration issue -  that 30% that do not want any kind of earned citizenship, etc.   The joke is – “Lou Dobbs could probably finance the whole fence along Mexico”.

Bad: Christine Romans gave a report on his program…. that 7,000 cases of leprosy had emerged in the U.S. within the previous three years, an increase attributed mostly due to immigrants.  When in fact, the actual number of leprosy cases had reached 7,000 in the registry over thirty years.  When confronted with this fact, Dobbs compared his critics from the left and right political spectrums to "commies" and "fascists 

Good: Dobbs is pro-choice and generally supportive of gay civil rights.

Bad: Dobbs said: "I don't think that we should have any flag flying in this country except the flag of the United States", and "I don't think there should be a St. Patrick's Day 

Good: Dobbs is strongly against the Bush tax cuts, which he argues favor the wealthy, and argues for raising the U.S. minimum wage)

Bad: Dobbs' critics, including the American Enterprise Institute, have accused him of inciting xenophobia.  The  Congressional Hispanic Caucus asked him to cease his negative portrayal of Hispanics...and treat the issue of immigration in a responsible manner." [18] 

Good: Dobbs favored John Kerry in the 2004 election

Bad:  Dobbs made a donation of $1,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign in January 200l.

Bush and Cheney are a couple. What that couple is capable of is a constant source of wonder.

answer the question

"Which Party is pumping up immigration in the same manner as gay marriage of the last cycle?"

how does it work to their advantage?

Democrats have already fallen into the trap.

Phil....

We're borrowing money from Mexico to fight our wars. Mexico is not a poor country, they need to provide for their own people. We need to do away with NAFTA that caused the problem, and the corporate employers who are illegally hiring these workers need to be made accountable. Is that hateful or racist?

If that is the Dem position, it could be a problem on election day.

HEALTH TIP OF THE WEEK:
MOST FLU VACCINES CONTAIN MERCURY
Flu season is right around the corner. Although the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that almost everyone, including pregnant women, get flu vaccinations, few of the 130 million people receiving this vaccination each year realize that most flu shots contain harmful dosages of mercury. About 80% of all flu shots distributed in the United States contain a mercury-based preservative called thimerosal. According to health officials, people getting flu-shots need to request a thimerosal-free vaccination. These vaccines cost roughly $4 more to manufacture and distribute.
Learn more: http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_8370.cfm

QUICK RELATED QUOTE & FACTS:

QUOTE: "There's no conclusive scientific evidence that the amount of mercury one might get from a flu shot is linked with any neurological development outcome that's negative." --- Jeanne Santoli, deputy director of immunization services division for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

FACT: A typical flu shot contains 50,000 parts per billion of mercury.
FACT: The EPA classifies a liquid with 200 parts per billion of mercury as hazardous waste.
FACT: The legal "safe" limit for mercury in drinking water is 2 parts per billion
FACT: For each flu-shot, a 22-pound baby gets more than 25 times the amount of mercury considered safe. And doctors are recommending that many babies and children get two flu shots this season.
FACT: A material safety data sheet from Eli Lilly and Co., a former producer of flu vaccines, says exposure to thimerosal may include "fetal changes, decreased offspring survival and lung tissue changes. Exposure in utero and in children may cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination impairment."

Fred 

replicative cloning isn't a danger, but transgenic modification relies on cloning to succeed commercially

the milk from current cloned cows is safe they are simple copies of their "parent" (?), a breeding tool

that doesn't mean Congress shouldn't have oversight

there are dangers in future uses and not all cloned cows milk may be safe in the future, but the few hundred now in existence produce safe milk

Hillary got the question right in the first debate question about Spitzer..

everything since then has been giving in to the fear mongers

of course it is a state's issue as to who should get a drivers liscence

Bill Richardson answered the debate question correctly in Vegas.

undocumented workers are only "illegal" because of a breakdown in the implementation of exisitng law and Congress could make it all go away with one vote of clarification on visas

not that such a vote is possible now that Lou Dobbs has drummed up support for the Republican Right's position

and again every post of mine has an implicit IMHO

nite all

Audrey, your post at 27 is not bad for dems.  In fact it could be a blessing since it's the repugs who are protecting NAFTA and corps who hire illegals.

I think many many dems would like to see NAFTA gone. 

Fred  - THANK you for the information on 'mercury' - I've been looking for that.

 What do we really know about our Mexican neighbors?

Mexico:  Popluation 109 million.

Mexican annual population growth has drastically decreased in recent years.

Substantial Army, Navy and Air Force

Mexico is home to the largest number of U.S. citizens abroad –over one million.

Mexico allows ‘60’ languages the status of ‘national languages”.

In 2004, the literacy rate was at 91%, and the youth literacy rate was 96%,

World Bank, the population in extreme poverty has decreased from 24.2% to 17.6%  

National Autonomous Univ. of Mexico with 269,000 students. Three Nobel laureates 

Monterrey's Technological and Higher Education Institute (ITESM). Ranked by the Wall Street Journal as the 7th top International Business School worldwide. 

Trade with Mexico has become a critically important element of the economic growth of the United States, with U.S.-Mexico  - $232 billion in 200l. 

Mexico is the second largest importer of United States' goods, and second largest exporter of goods to the United States. 

Money sent home from immigrants to families in Mexico, remittances are the third largest source of income for Mexico, after petroleum and tourism, amounting to$20 billion a year.. (of which many U.S. imports are BOUGHT). 

350,000 immigrants have returned to Mexico since September 11th. .   

There is a huge increase in one way tickets from immigrants – returning to Mexico. 

Normally, over a million Mexicans make round trips to work in the US. and return home every year.  .

Apprehension of illegal immigrants on California borders has dropped by 57%

Sea.....

A few, like Kucinich, but I think most Dems would be more for some unenforceable ammendment requiring safe work place etc. a placebo. It'll take some doing to get over the Bushes and the Clintons. nite..zzzzzzz

Recommend this Birthday thread with the CA speech that started it all in 2003.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/16/233831/48

This is a must read!

"....Regarding Al Gore, having been an advocate, supporter, friend, whatever, for a very long time, I reserve the right to say this:

It is a damn shame that he feels he has more important things to do than be president of the United States and leader of the free world with our country engulfed in divisiveness and our world threatened with a planetary emergency that will not be solved by prizes, awards or venture capital funds.

Those who believe in him the most are reduced to being virtual beggars (a position I will not take, which is why I have simply written him off for 2008 after my best efforts have come to naught).

In my view, no candidate was even remotely as right for the times as Gore in 2008, and no result is more tragic for the times than the fact that he concluded he was above participating in American democracy in the one way that matters the most.

Gore can win the Oscar, the Emmy, the Nobel and win every award except being named the manager of the New York Yankees, and join every venture capital fund and private equity fund and make important documentary films, but the planetary emergency, the crisis of $100 oil, the evils and dangers of this, are about
power and powerful forces that create these dangers and corruptions. Those powerful forces are now laughing and mocking and feeling great relief that one more threat to their power structure, a president who understands the danger and solution the most, has chosen to watch from outside the one arena that truly matters.

How sad and symbolic: for us, for him, for our democracy.

Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) is a more complicated story because he is trapped in a political party that he could have led to renewed greatness but which treats him as a prophet without honor.

Like Al Gore for the Democrats, being right does not reap the great rewards in our current system, which has created the tragedies we watch every night on the network news.

Chuck Hagel is one of the great senators who walks the floor of that chamber, which is no longer what the Founding Fathers intended, which is not nearly what it used to be, a man of enormous credibility, patriotism and respect from both sides of the aisle, who has an extraordinary reach of admiration from those who opposed the Iraq war the strongest to those who have served our country the most bravely, who view him, correctly, as a great and true champion of active-duty troops and American veterans.

Gore and Hagel may well have greatness in their futures, but what is sad for our democracy is the role they play, and do not play, in our present. Something about our democratic system pushes our best people out of it,
depriving our citizens of the best men and women who should lead our country, depriving our world of the best leadership America can provide, depriving our troops of the wisest and most noble commanders in chief, who choose not to compete in the arena to be commander in chief.

We leave the arena to those who hunger for power the most, who raise the most money, who have the most consultants, who utter the trite and insignificant platitudes and bromides in debates that do not equal what our best young men and women can say in their civics classes in school.

Imagine what could have been, with an October debate about the future of America with Al Gore representing the Democrats and Chuck Hagel representing the Repubicans (or Independents, a subject for another day)."

more

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/11070 

The third smartest thing that the Democratic Party could do for themselves (and for us) would be to nominate a decent candidate for president next year.

The second smartest thing they could do would be to assist the Republicans in nominating a loser.

And the very smartest thing they could do, of course, would be to relocate their long-lost spines and then immediately schedule a surgery to have them reinserted and arc-welded into place.

That first item is probably not going to happen, what with the inexplicable Hillary Train chugging along relentlessly toward victory (what's up with that, Democratic voters?), and the third item is the subject of a whole 'nuther discussion altogether (what's up with that, Democratic 'leaders'?), so, instead, let's talk about winning the old-fashioned way: by using some smart guerilla warfare tactics against your opponent.

There were two reports on CNN this morning that I found especially relevant to the human condition in the USA today. The first item was a very sad story. Many years ago a couple in Florida lost a son that was kidnapped and murdered by a man who is scheduled to die in Florida's death chamber today. The execution is questionable because he would be receiving the "cocktail" of lethal chemicals that has been determined as "inhumane."

The second story had to do with a six year old boy nicknamed the "Deer Slayer" because he has killed six deer in the past year; the last one being a 140 pound doe. There was film of his mom showing him how to aim and the proud papa extolling the brilliance of his son. His prowess with the gun is being celebrated and he was being feted as a prodigy. One can only imagine the potential of this talented young man and deer all over his community should tremble at his name.

Impeach Cheney/cut off funds/bring them home/send putz to The Hague.

Should Bush be Sent to Guantanamo? Or Should He Pre-emptively Attack Himself? Audit: Terrorists got U.S. aid. 11/17

Instead of all this fooldarah, why not pass a bill to make recess appointments punishable by impeachment?  Ah, yes, the repugs wouldn't go for that, automatoms that they are.  Over the cliff with 'em all.

Let's Hope That Reid Has Gotten the Message About Playing Hardball with the GOP Thugs: "Reid to Keep Senate in Session to Prevent Recess Appointments." Finally, we can say "Give 'Em Hell Harry!" 11/17
 

No conflict of interest here cuz we have the Clear Skies initiative that's going so well.

US power company linked to Bush is named in database as a top polluter: "But it is the enormous carbon footprint of Southern Company – among the largest financiers of Republican Party politicians – which has raised eyebrows. Southern's employees handed George Bush $217,047 to help him get elected, and they and the company have contributed an extraordinary $6.2m to Republican campaigns since 1990." 11/16
 

Now this should be debated and discussed at length.  If we think Iraq and Iran are a problem.....

This is for Linda SF:

Gore to Return to the White House, Just for a Moment Alas. He will attend a recognition ceremony for America's Noble Prize winners. 11/17

I believe Clinton last night said that sometimes human rights have to be sacrificed for security.  That's what we're living under right now with putzie.  Now I can't remember if they all agreed or who didn't.

The point is that Clinton was clear about that, sending shivers up my spine.  She'd be the first American dictatoress. 

The more I think about what the article said about Gore, the more I agree.  It's his patriotic duty to run. Maybe he's waiting to see if Clinton gets the nod from the sheeple and then jump in.  Maybe he's just too comfortable with his fame and various projects.  With him and a dem congress, oh what wonders we could do in a fairly short time.    

What is all that white space?  Good grief, fix the *&^%^ blog.

PAPER: THE DOLLAR'S DECLINE... SHUNNED CURRENCY...

Saudi minister warns of dollar collapse... 

Why is Al even going?  Would it be bad form not to? 

Bush to welcome Gore to White House...

W/O bush in office, we may have already had cures for some major diseases.  Of course, they may not have made it past most big pharma.  CEO's don't make money off of healthy people.

STEM CELL REVOLUTION ENDS NEEDS TO USE EMBRYOS...

OMG,it's almost morning. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

7:11

7:18

IN 1929, days after the stockmarket crash, the Harvard Economic Society reassured its subscribers: “A severe depression is outside the range of probability”. In a survey in March 2001, 95% of American economists said there would not be a recession, even though one had already started. Today, most economists do not forecast a recession in America, but the profession's pitiful forecasting record offers little comfort. Our latest assessment (see article) suggests that the United States may well be heading for recession.

[...]

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[...]

What's more, the squeeze on consumers will last longer than many expect because it involves the unwinding of an asset-price bubble and attendant financial excesses. Just as corporate spending stayed weak for years after the 2001 recession, so consumer spending will be crimped for more than a few months. There seems little reason to expect, as many analysts seem to, that the housing bust will be history by the second half of 2008.

Finally, policymakers' responses may be more muted. In 2001, the economy was cushioned by a large fiscal boost, thanks to tax cuts and bigger spending, as well as much lower interest rates. A big tax cut now seems extremely unlikely. At the same time, the weak dollar and global economic strength that softened the downturn will also complicate the central bankers' ability to respond. Based on underlying inflation expectations, real interest rates are still above 2%. Central bankers often push short-term real rates to zero, or even below, in a downturn, suggesting there is plenty of room to cut, particularly since the housing glut means lower interest rates may pack less punch. But high oil prices and a falling dollar may preclude such an aggressive response, as Mr Bernanke worries about rising inflation expectations. Recession or not, America faces a tricky road ahead.

By MARTIN GRIFFITH, Associated Press Writer

[...] 

"Anybody who tells you that the Republicans know how to manage the budget and balance the books, you tell them you don't know where they've been living the last 6 1/2 years because that is not the facts," Clinton said.

"It gets me a little agitated to think that 6 1/2 years ago we had a balanced budget and surplus in America and it's all been squandered. We now have a $9 trillion deficit."

She also expressed disappointment over Congress's inability to pass legislation to bring the troops home from Iraq.

Their latest defeat came Friday when Senate Republicans blocked a $50 billion bill that would have paid for several months of combat but also would have ordered troop withdrawals to begin within 30 days. The measure, narrowly passed this week by the House, also would have set a goal of ending combat in December 2008.

"We don't have enough Republicans who will vote with us yet. We need more," she said. "But the facts are pretty clear. Our young men and women in uniform have done everything they were asked to do. I do not want them remaining as referees of an Iraqi civil war any longer."

Good morning, everybody

This is a sample of what you should be looking for:

NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ANNOUNCES DELEGATE SELECTION CAUCUS LOCATIONS



On December 15, 2007, Presidential campaigns will hold district delegate selection caucuses, one in each Congressional district, where district-level delegates will be elected. Convention delegates selected at the district-level shall be allocated in proportion to the percentage of the primary vote won by that presidential candidate in that district. Each presidential candidate who receives at least 15% of the primary vote will be awarded delegates who will represent New Hampshire at the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado. New Hampshire will send a total of 34 delegates to the Convention, 14 of them district level delegates (7 from each district).



New Hampshire Democratic Party Chair Raymond Buckley says:



"The delegate selection process is one of the most important parts of the primary process and the New Hampshire Democratic Party is committed to reaching out and empowering every interested Democrat to have a meaningful role in the Party. We have implemented affirmative action programs to ensure our delegation to the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado represents the diversity of New Hampshire including a pledge signed by each Presidential campaign that states they will strive for diverse caucuses. We encourage as many people as possible to attend these caucuses and run for delegate and are excited to be working with the Presidential campaigns to select the 34 delegates that will represent New Hampshire at the Convention."



The filing period to run for delegate to the 2008 Democratic National Convention is now open. In order to qualify for candidacy you must file a statement designating your presidential preference and a signed pledge of support for that candidate with the New Hampshire Democratic Party by December 5, 2007 by 5pm. Candidacy declaration forms are available at www.nhdp.org.







Below are the delegate selection caucus locations:



Biden:



1st Congressional District

Sweeney Hall, Room 210

NHTI-Stratham



2nd Congressional District

Simon Center, Trustees' Room

New England College, Henniker, NH







Clinton:



1st Congressional District:

IUPAT District Council 35 Union Hall

34 Commercial St, Brentwood, NH



2nd Congressional District:

IBEW Hall

48 Airport Rd, Concord, NH







Dodd:



1st Congressional District:

Alpine Club

175 Putnam St, Manchester, NH



2nd Congressional District:

New Hampshire Technical Institute

31 College Drive, Concord, NH







Edwards:



1st Congressional District:

Edwards for President Portsmouth Office

Parade Mall

195 Hanover Street, Suite 34, Portsmouth, NH



2nd Congressional District:

Bow Town Hall

91 Bow Center Rd, Bow, NH







Obama:



1st Congressional District

Iber Holmes Gove Middle School

1 Stephen Batchelder Pkwy, Raymond, NH



2nd Congressional District

Rundlett Middle School

144 State Street, Concord, NH







Richardson:



1st Congressional District

The Sweeney Post

251 Maple St, Manchester, NH



2nd Congressional District

Concord High school

170 Warren St, Concord, NH







Caucus locations for Kucinich and Gravel campaigns TBA





To find out more about the delegate selection process, please visit our website at www.nhdp.org

 

'Morning, Paine!

52.  There is no civil war in Iraq.  As the Brits attest, when the foreign troops get out, the violence stops.

Also:

Representatives of Iraqi parties and blocs held discussions in Finland from August 31 through September 3, 2007 and agreed to consult further on the following recommendations to start negotiations to reach national reconciliation:



1.To resolve all political issues through non-violence and democracy.

2.To prohibit the use of arms for all armed groups during the process of negotiations.

3.To form an independent commission approved by all parties, its task being to supervise the process of disarmament of non-governmental armed groups in a verifiable manner.

4.All parties will commit to accept the results of the negotiations and no party can be subject to a threat of force form any groups that reject all or part of any agreement reached.

5.To work to end international and regional interference in internal Iraqi affairs.

6.To commit to protect human rights.

7.To assure the independence and efficiency of the legal and justice systems, especially the constitutional court.

8.To ensure the full participation of all Iraqi parties and blocs in the political process and agreed governance arrangements.

9.To take all necessary steps to end all violence, killings, forced displacement and any further damage to infrastructure.

10.To establish an independent consultive body to explore ways to deal with the legacy of the past in a way that will unite the nation.

11.All Iraqi parties and blocs have to build Iraq and contribute efficiently to support all the efforts that would make the political process and Iraqi unity successful and to preserve its sovereignty.

12.All participating groups must commit to all of the principles listed here as a complete system of rules.



Political Objectives:



1- To be rational in political speeches, for the national interest, and to move away from sectarian and ethnic dispute.



2- To bring an end to the displacement of Iraqi people and work to take care of those displaced, and secure their safe return, with guarantees of their safety by the national forces in co-operation with political parties and tribal leaders.



3- To deal with the subject of militias under the following procedures:



A- Arming, supplying, training and making sure that the security forces (army/police) are capable of undertaking their duties efficiently. Make sure that the security forces are equipped to adequate levels to achieve an effective national force.



B- Activation of economic development across the country, to contain youth unemployment and use the effors of young people to rebuild in order to improve the quality of life for all citizens.



C- Those working outside the law and using military resources inappropriately shall be brought to justice, with no differentiation.



4- The emphasis on the common vision for all Iraqi political entities on the importance of termination of the presence of foreign troops in Iraq through the completion of national sovereignty and rebuilding a national army and security apparatus according to a national vision within a realistic timetable.



5- An emphasis on the continuation of constructive dialogue between different political groups aiming to fulfill national goals.



6- To convince political groups that are currently outside the political process to initiate and activate a constructive dialogue to reach common understandings.



7- To deal with armed groups which are not classified as terrorist, encouraging them to use peaceful political means to address the conflict and to provide their members with jobs and opportunities within state administrations.



8- Working towards correcting the misunderstanding that accompanied the political process and encourage all Iraqi political parties to participate in building Iraq in all aspects.



9- The cessation of the violation of the human rights of Iraqi citizens and their properties by continuous bombardment and military actions by foreign forces. The Iraqi government must take responsibility to protect innocent civilians.



END

 

46.  My thoughts exactly.  Bush Two needs to be shunned.

Hello, Puddle

8:03 

40.  Electric power is the key to global domination in the future.  By controlling the electro-magnetic spectrum, the U.S. will be able to immobilize its "enemies" by simply cutting off their ability to communicate and transmit information electrically.  If we can just flip the switch, so to speak, we won't need all those boots on the ground either. Dominating the globe will be a lot cheaper.  Don't you see?

off to workout

8:30 

Happy Birthday Howard!

I do not know if anyone here has seen this, but to me the Clinton's are exactly like the Bush's.  Wasn't it GWB who slandered John McCain?

Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party's presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, but has decided not to use it. The nature of the alleged scandal was not disclosed.

This word-of-mouth among Democrats makes Obama look vulnerable and Clinton look prudent. It comes during a dip for the front-running Clinton after she refused to take a stand on New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's now discarded plan to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

Experienced Democratic political operatives believe Clinton wants to avoid a repetition of 2004, when attacks on each other by presidential candidates Howard Dean and Richard Gephardt were mutually destructive and facilitated John Kerry's nomination

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23467

Of course this comes from Time in partnership with CNN the Clinton News Networks Bob Novak. 

I will never never vote for Clinton.

I am spitting mad.

Forgot to mention the Clinton camp calls Obama The Prince of Darkness.

lifeline?

9:42 EST

are we able to project national internet useage by the delayof sending the blog through the NSA server?

business useage on weekdays versus kids not yet up on weekends and hitting facebook?

I could see how fixing that clock would be beyond HQ's ability to fix.

paine

hate to break it to you buddy but I can't support Clinton after her Iran War authorization  vote

http://eatapyzch.blogspot.com/

To increase the chances for progressives taking over congress, primary challenges to the "blue dogs" and other DLC-DINOs must be pursued vigorously.

Democrats were collectively stupid enough to nominate Kerry in '04. They're probably dumb enough to nominate Clinton too.

62. I disagree w/ Phil that Lou Dobbs is a racist, but the Prince of Darkness comment by the Hillary camp, if true, to my perhaps overly sensitivity trained (lol) ear, is.
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seashell :-)
Sat, 11/17/07
4:32 am
Saudi minister warns of dollar collapse...
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That is the scariest thing on the blog so far.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY HOWARD!!!!!!!

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JudyforDean get your DSL fixed -- we miss you!

"ELECTABILITY"

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/link.php?id=45778

Voters, Democrats in particular, tend to winnow the field of potential presidential candidates to those they like best, then discard those people for someone they think others will like better.
 

For anyone who watched the Las Vegas debate, the young girl who asked the Diamonds or Pearls question Maria Luisa Parra-Sandoval is a member of Harry Reid's staff.  Here is link.

http://www.zimbio.com/Senator+Harry+Reid+of+Nevada/notes/1/Senator+Reid+s+Staff

Democratic voters in Iowa and New Hampshire -- the states that begin the presidential nominating battle -- say Senator Barack Obama and John Edwards are more likely than Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to say what they believe, rather than what they think voters want to hear ... But they also view Mrs. Clinton as the best prepared and most electable Democrat in the field, the polls found.

YIKES

"Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information about her principal opponent for the party's presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, but has decided not to use it."

Well, that would make HRC different from the Bushies right there.  The Bushies would most definitely use any dirt that they have.

re. the diamonds/pearls question--I thought it was a stupid, pointless question and thought Hillary handled it graciously.

Aside:  I've heard in Dem circles in which i travel that there is dirt on Obama but heard that the source was Republican gutter draggers.  Didn't ask what it was and I sincerely hope that nothing  bad comes out.  The Republicans would LOVE nothing more than to Lewinsky-gate the first serious black candidate.  

During LasVegas debate Catherine Jackson was asked a question about Iran, since her son had served three times in Iraq.

In May 2007 Catherine Jackson was in a group of anti-war protestors supporting Harry Reid. Hmm another Harry Reid connection.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:tRjwkEoc1-AJ:www.lvrj.com/news/7571172.html+%22catherine+jackson%22+%2Bnevada+%2Biraq&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

While asking a question LaShannon Spencer gave her opinion on how the Iraq war and health care were important during debates.  Is this the same LaShannon Spencer who is the political director of the Arkansas Democratic Party?   

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/16/random-questioner-at-debate-was-arkansas-democratic-party-officer-in-2003/

She said she was undecided but is quite clearly a Clinton fan.

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:DZEQ0FVr20oJ:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/953246/posts+%22LASHANNON+SPENCER%22+%2Bhillary&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

Yeah I suggest these people were planted by CNN.  And the Clinton camp.

But why is she a "plant"?  She was a Reid staffer in Reid's state....likely she'd have better access as far as getting in and asking a question but I don't see it as a nefarious plant....plus, like I said, I thought it was a stupid question, anyway....funny, but both my s.o. and I thought it was a demeaning question.

If she had asked Obama or Edwards a question would she have been an Obama or Edwards plant...with a nefarious connection to Reid?  lol.

cChalfonte spin spin spin all you want.  Hillary Cllinton is just like Bush.  All she wants is power, her and her operatives took down Dean last election, because they were afraid of him.  She is trying to do the same with Obama.  Anyone with a brain can see that she is desperate.  She has nothing against Obama or she would use it.  As for me I'm going to go to Obama's website and donate in your honor.

sm.  Always happy to hear that $$$ are going into Dem candidate coffers.  Good on ya.

for the record, I support John Edwards in the primary. 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HOWARD.

YOU'VE BEEN WORKING HARD, YOU DESERVE A GREAT DAY!

Handsome Howard looked really good at the debate.

sm, you'd also make me proud if you stopped by and donated at the DNC blog in honor of Governor Dean's birthday.

Just saw on the news that Huckabee is tightening up the Repub Iowa caucuses?!?

Not sure what that means.

 Signing off--things to do.  Don't mean to offend anyone but these illogical, unfounded conspiracy theories deserve some push-back.  I've often thought the loonie-toons commentary that is so unfortunately prevalent here, often washing over the very astute, insightful commentary, is the primary reason for the mainstream media entirely writing this place off.  just mho.

Ciao for now--hope you all have a great weekend. 

If anyone's in LA today, this might be worth attending:

Today, Saturday the 17th, John Edwards will be taking part in the Presidential Forum on Global Warming at the Wadsworth Theatre in Los Angeles (on the VA grounds) 11301 Wilshire Blvd. West Los Angeles, CA 90073
12:30 Rally at NE corner, intersection of San Vicente & Wilshire Blvd.
1:30 Presidential Forum
2:30 Edwards will come out to meet the crowd.

hate to break it to you buddy but I can't support Clinton after her Iran War authorization  vote

Phil

No problem to me who you don't vote fo bro.  Heck, I haven't shaved too many from my list.

One point:  I don't recall a Iran War authorization vote.  I recall folks describing a vote as such, but...well, I truly doubt it was that.

cC even the media started laughing at that one. The which I think bites me more, because the "other" campaigns are trying to make something out of this "planted question", which I actually find admirable more that Clinton was asking why she wasn't getting any questions on Global Warming...and her staff tried to deliver for her. I mean, it wasn't a question of "tell me how hard you fought to get the health care Bill passed", or something ridiculous like that. Anyhoo, on track, as everyone is saying, they ALL plant questions....so how in the heck can these other campaigns try to make such a big thing out of something that they know they do too?

And yes, Monica, it is not a Civi War, it is Self defence of an occupying force.

http://current.com/items/84986481_get_th...

And of course, Obama didn't even vote on the Iran Bill.

Could Romney Be Behind the Anti-Mormon N.H. Phone Calls?

  Mormon faith and military deferments

the fallout would taint GOP rivals as character assassins

Romney's campaign orchestrated the scheme,

Orem, Utah

high-profile Romney supporters

Allan Bense, the Florida House Speaker who chairs Romney's Florida Statewide Steering Committee, and has made calls

Kevin Madden Romney's spokesperson responded: "Citizens have a right to donate

Western Wats has a history of conducting overtly biased political push polls. In February 1996, a former employer of the company claimed that he was asked to help "smear" then-GOP presidential hopeful Steve Forbes on behalf of his opponent Bob Dole.

Asked to comment on the matter, a spokesperson for Western Wats declined.

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Oh, I got a kick out of that clip/paste

Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) Farewell Speech (11/15/2007)

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I don't care to hear it, Dennis.  Just shut the door.  Don't say a word, it doesn't matter.

Seashell, yes, I saw, thank you.

How I bet the entire world will be watching to see what happens as W honors Al Gore in the Oval Office. Do you think papa Bush, after all, he is another Former President, will be there, to face his demons, too?

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And, on the Brent Budowsky piece. Yes, saw that too. And it is sad that our system rewards that of whom wants power more than doing good.

I would offer that I would be the begger for America, but something tells me Al wouldn't want me to beg either. But, has any of his friends tried the simple "Please, will you run?"

But, as much as Brent is venting, as we have been made all too aware, if Mr. Gore was planning on waiting til after the Nobel Peace Prize announcement to decide...by the end of October as many were figuring......and now that the other states, Iowa and New Hampshire moved up their deadlines so early, Michigan and Florida already passed, how can he? Something he didn't mention in that piece. And further clearity of what we were saying about the "inside"folks trying to force the outcome with all these changes the states were doing.

88. LMAO

Every game day at Notre Dame, the private jets fly over my house like buses. All I can wonder is: do they EVER think about anyone but their own needs, do they think about THEIR carbon footprint? Is it all up to us (middle class folks) to make the sacrifices for THEIR wasteful consumption.

Some days are more pessimistic than others.

Live Earth Sequel? Nobel Peace Concert To Honor Gore and Co.
Filed under: honors, music — michael @ 12:26 pm

It has been announced that Uma Thurman will join Tommy Lee Jones in co-hosting the 2007 Nobel Peace Concert honoring winners Al Gore and the U.N.’s Climate Chance Panel. The December 11th concert, held the day after the Nobel Peace Prize is awarded in Oslo, will draw top music and film stars and be broadcast to more than 100 countries. Whether the world is ready or not, it looks like we’re going to have a mini Live Earth concert special on our hands again.

Slated to perform so far are Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox, Morten Harket, Earth, Wind & Fire, KT Tunstall, and Melissa Etheridge, who won an Academy Award this year for the song ‘I Need to Wake Up,’ which was featured in Gore’s environmental documentary An Inconvenient Truth. From the article,

“Geir Lundestad, the secretary of the Nobel Peace Prize committee, said they were delighted that Thurman had agreed to host. ‘She brings iconic style and substance to the event and will help us tremendously in our mission of spreading the global message of peace,’ Lundestad said.”

Tommy Lee Jones readily accepted co-hosting duties as well. After all, he was Gore’s roommate at Harvard University. Of course!

Have you ever heard of anyone having the type of year that Al Gore is having?

New thread....

Gore Scores 48th Floor at Bank of America Tower
Posted on November 14th, 2007 in Cook + Fox, Green Office Space, Green Real Estate, LEED, New York City, One Bryant Park by Stephen

Back in September, we noted a report in Crain’s that Al Gore’s investment firm, Generation Investment Management LLP, was looking for LEED-certified office space in New York City. Today, Generation announced that it has secured a 5,000-square-foot lease on the 48th floor of the Durst Organization’s Bank of America Tower, which expects to receive the first-ever LEED Platinum rating for a commercial high-rise once it opens up next May. As we’ve noted previously, asking rents at the Midtown tower, which was designed by Cook + Fox, are hovering around $185/square foot; it’s unclear how much Gore’s firm agreed to pay for the space, but as of July, this was the asking price for the only two remaining floors in the building. (By way of comparison, according to Cushman & Wakefield, the average asking rent for Class A office space in Midtown is $70/square foot).

Generation was founded back in 2004 and has offices in London and Washington, with another to open in Melbourne next year. The firm donates five percent of its profits to The Generation Foundation, a non-profit organization “dedicated to strengthening the field of sustainable development and sustainability research worldwide.” Inking such a high profile tenant as Mr. Gore and his firm is obviously terrific news for both Durst and the Bank of America Tower itself as the building prepares to accept the mantle of America’s greenest skyscraper.

http://www.greenbuildingsnyc.com/2007/11...

do they EVER think about anyone but their own needs,

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To quote one of 'em, "He who dies with the mostest, wins"

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Our man did better than just about any other Democrat on the ticket. A good showing.

DFA can be as proud of that fact as some of our wins. Coming in second in a statewide race doesn't make you a loser.