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Sometimes it's pretty frustrating to read articles like this one in the NY Times. Yesterday in Rogers, Ark., President Bush had the audacity to suggest his veto of S-CHIP was in the best interests of poor children.
But there's good news. Today, DFA activists took action. DFA members around the country made phone calls, either to Representatives who might swing towards overturning the Bush veto, or to fellow members who live in those swing districts. One DFA member from Michigan found herself talking to Grassroots All-Star Charlie Brown's wife. You can bet that when Charlie Brown wins, he'll never vote against America's children.
In other news, DFA's going to Hollywood. Dean for America that is. That's right. George Clooney has teamed up with Leonardo DiCaprio to make a movie of the 2004 Dean Campaign. DiCaprio has already been cast as former Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi. Our question: who's going to portray Jim Dean?
About the play "Farragut North" by Beau Willimon
http://www.playbill.com/news/article/111...
http://www.offoffoff.com/bulletinboard/b...
**Extras Needed**
Do we get to play ourselves in the silver screen version?
Eddie Lawrence "The Old Philosopher", "Never Give Up That Ship"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Lawre...
Susan, yes, you all are kicking! Cali 4 Gore is awesome and has some great folks.
I was going to be working on ours, but they changed the release date of the forms to November 3, from October 8...as of now. They are having problems finding caucus locations, so that may be delayed even more. I hope not.
Kurt Hayes (Independent)970 1%
Patrick Murphy (Independent)
1,428 2% Jim Ogonowski (Republican)
41,508 46% Kevin Thompson (Constitution Party)
429 0% Nicola Tsongas (Democrat)
46,542 51%
Precincts Reporting - 168 out of 195 - 86%
PRICE*CHANGE% CHANGETIME
Nymex Crude Future87.46-.15-.1720:52Dated Brent Spot84.78-.03-.0320:26WTI Cushing Spot87.611.481.7210/16PRICE* CHANGE % CHANGE TIME
Nymex Crude Future 87.46 -.15 -.17 20:52
Dated Brent Spot 84.78 -.03 -.03 20:26
WTI Cushing Spot 87.61 1.48 1.72 10/16
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | May 28, 2006
WASHINGTON -- The office of Vice President Dick Cheney routinely reviews pieces of legislation before they reach the president's desk, searching for provisions that Cheney believes would infringe on presidential power, according to former White House and Justice Department officials.
The officials said Cheney's legal adviser and chief of staff, David Addington , is the Bush administration's leading architect of the ``signing statements" the president has appended to more than 750 laws. The statements assert the president's right to ignore the laws because they conflict with his interpretation of the Constitution.
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A SUN STAFF REPORT
LOWELL -- The campaign of Democrat Niki Tsongas declared victory over Republican Jim Ogonowski at about 9:10 tonight, and the Associated Press sent a bulletin five minutes later declaring Tsongas the victor.
With 86 percent of precincts reporting, she had 51 percent of the vote to 46 percent for Ogonowski.
Bourbon....:)
Add a little branch water, Linda. I would have poured Irish myself. Well, nothing less than CC.
Governor Deval Patrick will travel to China in late November, making stops in Beijing and Shanghai, hoping to promote Massachusetts in a country that is a rising economic power.
"In today's global economy, competition is worldwide, and so are the opportunities. No state can afford to sit back and wait for the benefits of foreign trade and development. ... We have to take bold initiative to move Massachusetts forward and compete on the international stage," Patrick said today in a statement.
Patrick will travel with a team of business executives, academic leaders, and senior government officials. The delegation is tentatively slated to leave Boston on Nov. 30 and return Dec. 8.
"China will be an important partner in the years ahead, especially as it becomes one of the world's economic superpowers and thus provides a major market for Massachusetts goods and services," University of Massachusetts President Jack M. Wilson, who is going on the trip, said in the statement issued by the governor's office. “We need the Governor to lead the way in tapping this important market.”
Paine, I'm stopping. And now that my fav Mineral Water, Gerolsteiner, went up and is now in plastic, I won't be buying...and don't have any in the house. It aint helping, even staight stuff. My head got light, but not enough to ignore THE PAIN IN MY MOUTH.
linda, what's that saying...oh ya, lather, rinse, repeat (as many times as is necessary.)
Oh poor girl, Linda. There's the medicine cabnet, then, eh? )
19. ow! you made me laugh and that really hurt.
20. Paine...I might have to resort to it. I just try not to. but it looks like some, at least aspirin, will be in my future. OH, wait, I'll try some of my strong herbs (no) first...and THEN if that don't work.
Thanks for the informal write up, Julia Marden.
This is from an email share with me by someone. This county chairwoman would not allow a candidate to enter a fundraiser. She also told him he had his chance, that he could not run again. So wrong. He was a good candidate, got 40% of the vote last time in a Republican leaning district. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1578"As a firm believer in freedom of speech and our democracy, I feel I must make people aware of a recent action taken against a formerly nominated Democratic candidate for U.S. Congress, John Russell, by the Chair of the _____ Democratic Executive Committee. I had mailed a check in the amount of $150.00 to cover the costs for myself and two guests to attend the "United We Stand" fundraiser being held on October 12, 2007 at __________. I received a call from one of the organizers asking for the names of my guests and provided those names, one of whom was John Russell. Within 10 minutes, I received a call from the Chair of the _________. She informed me that John Russell would not be allowed to attend and that he would be "stopped at the door" if he showed up. Her reason was that he was "disruptive".Florida needs to get its act together.
Hi Folks,
Just a quick drop in. As always, I enjoy reading and skimming the comments.
Just finished watching Borat. I think Jonathan Swift would have loved it. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it. Is there anything Sacha Baron Cohen didn't decimate? Lampoon is too gentle a word for it. Let's see: the anonymity and hostility of subway riders in New York, gangs in Chicago, upper class hotels, a news cast in Wyoming, rodeo people in Wyoming... they cheered as Borat shouted that George Bush should drink the blood of every man, woman, and child in Iraq...then upper class whites in Atlanta, fundamentalist Christian Holy Rollers, realestate brokers at a convention, surely thre must be something he left out, oh, I forgot, fraternity creeps in an RV and their idiocy and misogyny.
Truly, this was a new level of satire, and he caught every despicable, prejudiced, insanity of Americans. Worth seeing.
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floridagal .
Tue, 10/16/07
10:22 pm
Did Mr. Russell buy a ticket to this event?
OK - Cheney's Law -- watch here -- why aren't these people behind bars?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...
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I saw the most remarkable movie from http://www.filmconnection.org tonight. It was called GRASS. I was expecting the Woody Harelson movie about the history of marijuana laws lol but I got this silent film shot in 1925 about an Iranian tribe that makes this trek with 50K animals over a mountain, through 2 rivers, through the snow barefoot, so the animals can get to grass to eat. What they do?/did is a miraculous feat, but that these 2 men and a woman filmed it all in 1925 is almost as astounding. It's called GRASS.
http://www.thefilmconnection.org/filminf...
quote from blurb:
Cooper and Schoedsack almost froze when they filmed the breathtaking, almost unbelievable sight of an endless river of men, women and children-their feet bare or wrapped in rags-winding up the side of the sheer, snow covered rock face of the 15,000 foot-high Zardeh Kuh mountain.
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http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/hous...
House panel targets Yahoo
By Klaus Marre
October 16, 2007
Charging that a top Yahoo! Inc. official provided incorrect information regarding a Chinese human rights case to Congress, the House Foreign Affairs Committee on Tuesday called on the company’s leadership to appear before the panel.
At issue is the case of Shi Tao, a Chinese journalist who was sentenced to 10 years in prison in a much-publicized case. The Chinese government had asked for and received information from Yahoo about Shi, including his IP address and the contents of his e-mail. At a 2006 hearing on the case, the company had assured Congress that it did not know about “the nature of the investigation” when it handed over the information.
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Maybe there's a connection here btw pulling out a division and Turkey getting p*ssed and cutting off our supply routes? Maybe threatening to recognize the genocide is hastening to end the war? I mean just sayin'.....
Iraq drawdown to begin in volatile area
By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer 44 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Commanders in Iraq have decided to begin the drawdown of U.S. forces in volatile Diyala province, marking a turning point in the U.S. military mission, The Associated Press has learned.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_o...
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Thassit for me -- I know, new thread lol.
Linda SF, try acupuncture. It truly is amazing.
The movie about Bohr and Heisenberg was excellent and now I have to go see if it was based on fact. If so, Germany could have been the first to develop the atom bomb but Heisenberg didn't tell Bohr to make the calculation and Bohr hadn't thought of it. Or had he....? And then 8000 Jews magically fled in the night by sea on the eve of the Germans rounding them up, yet Bohr claims he had nothing to do with it....or did he? He maintained the stance of a good German, but reviled for not having beat the Americans to the bomb, yet I came away with the feeling that he purposely did not help Germany, knowing what would happen. Hitler would have bombed all the major cities of Europe and gone on, if possible. So Bohr was faced with a moral dilemma, being a good German scientist. The movie sub-topic was about uncertainy, Bohr's theory.
I didn't know that Heisenberg was at the test site in Nevada but it makes sense.
Fascinating movie.
27. Guess they're pulling out a brigade not a division (I don't really know the diff but expect there is a large one lol).
28. Seashell do you remember the name of the movie? It sounds intriguing.
It would appear that investigating is the only thing congress can do. It seems incapable of action that would save our country.
Democrats: Bush Ties May Have Led to Iraq Oil Contract
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/101607R.shtml
Dave Michaels for The Dallas Morning News reports that "Democratic lawmakers moved Monday toward investigating Hunt Oil's exploration contract in Iraq, saying the company's ties to President Bush raised questions about whether it had insider information that helped it reach the deal."
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Buthaina Al-Sasiri is a well-known and prolific Iraqi writer and journalist
living in Cairo. In response to my last article (on American killings in
Iraq), she offers these thoughts on the wholesale slaughter of Iraqis by
American forces, and on the routine and deceptive mis-identification of
those killed (males) as "members of Al Qaeda":
You may remember that the Iraqi resistance has called by the US spinners by
different names at different stages of invasion and occupation:
1. First they were "dead enders" and "Saddam's hunchmen," etc. That was
before arresting Saddam Hussein.
2. Next they were called insurgents, after the puppet government was
installed . Insurgency means revolting against a legal, recognized
government.
Susan Rowe, don't think so. I think those 3 did not attend. But he is filing to run again, and he is very outspoken
I have lots of stuff shared with me on this issue. And Russell is aware of the post. He beat the DCCC's chosen candidate last time, but this time they are shoving him out. Sounds so familiar. They did that in FL 13 to Jan Schneider as well.
I have good sources on this, and I very much think a whole lot of Florida chairs need to straighten their butts out.
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— from the Niagara Falls Reporter
DETROIT -- The Democrats make me sick. They weasel and twist, ignoring the truth and political wisdom as their feeble leadership dodges and ducks critical issues. They typically fail to define what they are or stand for anything that includes political risks.
The congressional leaders and the presidential candidates in general cling to safe positions, relying on expensive consultants and media advisers to hinge their support to a nebulous centrist coalition and fuzzy platitudes. Their aversion to principle and clear purpose defines a party so intent on regaining power by avoiding risk that they are risking failure.
article continues...This BH is insane and the whole world knows it, including the critters. They are risking another war, or more, the possibility of nukes being used, and losing the election becuz of wanting to protect their political arses. The Clinton machine doesn't care as long as she gets to be president.
It's time for us to start a ABC furor - a petition to send to her with hundreds of thousands of names on it. I'll be the first to sign it.
Thanks Linda SF for the info about how IA has so many undecideds. Where can we get updates on those reports?
Take some pain pills, Honey. No need to suffer.
'Many in the US Military Think Bush and Cheney Are Out of Control'In an interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE, the Amsterdam-based military historian Gabriel Kolko talks about the prospect of war with Iran and argues that many in the US military now view the White House as being 'out of control.'
DPA Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad watches a military parade in Tehran, Iran, in September 2007. Tension between Tehran and Washington has been rising.
SPIEGEL ONLINE: Mr. Kolko, editorials in US papers like the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard and the National Review are pushing for military action against Iran. How does the leadership in the US military view such a conflict?Gabriel Kolko: The American military is stretched to the limit. They are losing both wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Everything is being sacrificed for these wars: money, equipment in Asia, American military power globally, etc. Where and how can they fight yet another? The Pentagon is short of money for procurement, and that is what so many people in the military bureaucracy live for. The situation will be far worse in the event of a war with Iran.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,511492,00.html
sea...many times depending on who pays for the poll, it doesn't get released....THEY have it.
the latest was just reported yesterday with a link on Kos. Sorry, I don't have the strength to search.
thanks about acupuncture. Friends that I was with today, were talking about acupuncture being used for allergies as well. When they lived in Ft. Wayne, IN, they drove to Michigan to get treatments. I'm hoping this little situation is very temporary and that it will be gone before I would have found one. ... all this before...more next Monday. I was saving that painful gem.
Good news, my "skullcap" herb seems to be the one thing that is lessening the pain.....I'll do another treatment before bed.
I'm off for the night.
B well.
Every little bit of good news about successful campaigns, and healthy grassroots, is progress.
Here's some fun. I don't know who AlGoreGal is, but I love the
stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmGYYqJ6N...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARoNENPSI...
Jane
And I meant to include this...
the times, they are a-changin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARoNENPSI...
Accupuncture works wonders. I had a huge case of shingles in an arm, and the pain pills did not touch it. I went for accupuncture, and the pain stopped almost at once. They gave all kinds of medicine, but the doctor said my terrible case cleared up much more quickly than others. The emergency room doctors even gathered around to view it...said it was terrible.
Doctor said I would be on pain pills about a month, but I was off with a week and a half.
Secretary Geren:
I am writing to make you aware of my extreme disappointment with the denial of educational benefits to members of the 1st Battalion, 133rd Infantry, Iowa National Guard. This denial of benefits impacts roughly 500 Guard members from the State of Iowa. As you are aware, these soldiers were deployed longer than any other ground combat unit with a tour of 22 months foregoing time with family and employment responsibilities -- all while risking their own lives for longer than anticipated. Beyond our respect, these soldiers deserve the benefits provided by a grateful nation for their honorable service. Anything less is simply unacceptable.
I respectfully ask you to reconsider this decision and grant the rightfully-deserved Chapter 30 educational benefits to these returning soldiers who served only a handful of days short of the 730 day requirement. They answered the call of duty and they did it with honor, integrity and dedication far beyond expectations. I know you share my commitment to never stop fighting for those who have fought for us. Please be true to this commitment and grant the soldiers of the 133rd the educational benefits they deserve.
Thank you for your time and your commitment to our National Guard soldiers. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this issue.
Sincerely,
Chester J. Culver
Governor, State of Iowa
cc: Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates
General David H. Petraeus
Good morning, everybody
former asked yesterday how I would define "equality" and while I lay sleeping the brain came up with an answer that I like. Think of a tea cup. Better yet, think of hundreds of tea cups, arrayed on the shelves around the walls of a china shop. And each tea cup is different. Some have a handle or two; others have none. Some are tall and others are small. Some are painted with flowers and others are a dull uniform cream, or even a shiny black. But, they're all tea cups, or, more basically, cups, regardless of whether there's anything in them or not. They're defined by their purpose, their common purpose. But, not necessarily. They may have been made to hold tea, or not (some are just works of art and never intended to be used). When you strip all the superficialities away, you're left with a solid which has the potential to contain a liquid. Just as a human is a solid body that's infused with a personality or spirit. The only difference between a tea cup and a person is that when the spirit departs, the human body begins to disintegrate while the tea cup just sits there, regardless of whether there's anything in it.
But, to get back to equality. All tea cups are essentially equal in their actual and potential function; but they're all different in their appearance and construction. Ditto for humans. Humans are vessels capable of thought, communication, and interaction with their environment. Each one, even an identical twin, is different and, indeed, in the class of organic beings, it's these individual differences that make humans both unique and equal. We are equal in our difference from each other.
Of course, when you get beyond the atom, there's probably nothing that's exactly like anything else on the planet. No snowflake and no grain of sand. Even in a machine-made set of tea cups each is almost certainly different from the others, if only because the space and time in which each was made was different. So, the whole universe is united in its differences and its separateness.
Which actually gives us a new perspective on the principle of "separate but equal" with which African Americans were initially content. They understood that "equal" is not a synonym for "same." What they misunderstood or didn't anticipate was the application of rank, the creation of a hierachy, based on an arbitrary assemblage of those differences, to justify their exclusion or segregation from other people.
Of course, if people were tea cups they wouldn't mind being categorized and sorted and set up on higher or lower shelves or even behind glass doors in a cupboard. That's because tea cups don't have a mind. Tea cups don't think, communicate or interact with their environment. So these peculiar human behaviors don't affect them. Indeed, a tea cup can be smashed and, mended or not, the essence of the tea cup remains and not just in the minds of men. Other creatures, some with much smaller brains, are able to recognize a solid containing a liquid. Perhaps it's just because of the obvious difference. It's really hard to miss. One you bump into; the other flows around.
mainefem
Tue, 10/16/07
5:40 pm
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Tsongas is indeed a netroots candidate (MA-4).
Hope she wins today.
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Well, as Paine and Joan have indicated, she has.
Strangely, though, I thought Tsongas would have won by a bigger margin than 51% to that of 46%.
Well, as Shakespeare once penned "ah, there's the rub" -- the largest registered (and fastest growing) voting block in MA are independents, followed by dems and repubs. Often how the indys vote can make or break a dem or repub candidacy:
Tsongas Holds Massachusetts House Seat for Democrats, But It Wasn’t Easy
By Jessica Benton Cooney
Tue Oct 16, 11:57 PM ET
Niki Tsongas, a community college dean and the widow of former Sen. Paul Tsongas, kept Massachusetts’ 5th Congressional District seat in Democratic Party hands by winning a special House election Tuesday. Tsongas will succeed former eight-term Rep. Martin T. Meehan, who resigned in July to become a college chancellor. Tsongas will be sworn in as soon as Wednesday — an achievement that will make her the first woman in the Massachusetts congressional delegation since Republican Margaret Heckler lost a 1982 election after eight House terms.
But recent indications that the favored Tsongas would not win in a walk were borne out. With 86 percent of precincts reporting, Tsongas had a lead of 51 percent to 46 percent over her Republican opponent, Jim Ogonowski, who drew attention for his family’s connection to the 9/11 tragedy: His brother was the pilot of the first airplane hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001 by Islamic extremists and crashed into one of the towers of New York’s World Trade Center.
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National Republican officials were quick to declare the relatively close outcome in the Democratic-leaning district west and north of Boston as something of a victory, or at least a warning shot to the Democratic Party as it prepares in the 2008 election to defend the House majority it won in 2006.
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But Ogonowski’s appeal to independent and swing voters was based in part on his efforts to distance himself from President Bush and the conservative wing that dominates the national Republican Party. Though Ogonowski stated during the campaign that he joined most Republicans in opposing deadlines for withdrawing troops from Iraq, he criticized the president’s handling of the war. He also said he would be beholden to neither the Republican or Democratic parties if elected.
Tsongas and her Democratic allies labored during the campaign to undermine Ogonowski’s independent posture, particularly by associating him with Bush on Iraq and accusing him of hedging on whether he would vote to override Bush’s veto of a bill to extend a federal children’s health insurance program, which the president declared fiscally unsound.
These issues were echoed Tuesday night in a statement by Maryland Rep. Chris Van Hollen, who chairs the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, in which he said, “Niki will be a tremendous asset to the Democratic Caucus. Massachusetts voters sent a clear message, they support candidates who fight for their values to provide children’s health care and work to end the war in Iraq.”
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The race proved to be expensive for Tsongas, who ran through close to $2 million. Ogonowski raised substantially less, but “surged,” according to his campaign, in the last weeks, bringing his total cash spent on the campaign to more than $434,000.
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New Posts on Hannah
http://hannah.smith-family.com
and
http://bluehampshire.com/showDiary.do?di...
Have a cousin you're embarrassed to be related too ?
Obama does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/17/wobama117.xml
Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are cousins
By Our Foreign Staff
The wife of US Vice-President Dick Cheney has revealed that her husband is closely related enough to the Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama to call him “cousin”.
Lynne Cheney said that she had made the unlikely discovery of kinship between President George W Bush’s hawkish deputy and the charismatic black Illinois senator while researching ancestry for her new memoir, Blue Skies, No Fences.
The men are apparently eighth cousins, but Mrs Cheney said she did not include this in her memoir.
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According to Mrs Cheney's spokesman, Senator Obama is a descendant of Mareen Duvall.
The French Huguenot’s son married the granddaughter of a Richard Cheney, who arrived in Maryland in the late 1650s from England.
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A spokesman for Senator Obama, who wants to be the first black US president, offered a tongue-in-cheek response.
“Every family has a black sheep,” said Bill Burton.
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Actually, given our discussion yesterday, I would say that Massachusetts voters endorsed the value of equality--i.e. all children should be provided with health care, regardless of whether their parents are rich or poor. Special preferences for the poor have never been attractive to Republicans. Democrats make a mistake when they tailor government programs according to the characteristics of the recipients.
If health care is a public good, everybody should have it.
Don't divide us by gender or color and don't divide us by wealth or poverty either.
America's Mayor speaks:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_po/giuliani_obama_9
Giuliani tells Obama 'You're no Reagan'
By LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer Wed Oct 17, 1:19 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday ridiculed Democratic rival Barack Obama for saying he would meet, without precondition, with leaders of renegade nations.
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Addressing the Republican Jewish Coalition, Giuliani described Obama's offer, during a presidential debate in July, to meet as president with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.
"Then he went on to explain that Ronald Reagan negotiated with the communists," Giuliani said, pausing and sighing. "I say this most respectfully: You're not Ronald Reagan, you know?"
The audience in a downtown Washington hotel laughed and clapped.
"Here's what Ronald Reagan did before he negotiated with communists," the former New York mayor continued. "First he called them the evil empire. Then he took missiles, intermediate-range missiles ... and he put them in European cities, and he pointed the missiles at Russian cities with names on them.
"Then he said, in a very nice way, 'Let's negotiate.'"
Obama's campaign had a ready response, citing the links between Giuliani's law firm and Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez.
"While Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton do not think we should engage in the type of strong diplomacy practiced by Ronald Reagan and John Kennedy, Obama does," Obama spokesman Bill Burton said. "And given the hefty fee that Hugo Chavez's oil company paid Rudy Giuliani's firm, he apparently thinks we shouldn't talk to Chavez, but it's fine to take his money."
Giuliani's law firm, Houston-based Bracewell & Giuliani, represents an American subsidiary of an oil company controlled by Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez. Petroleos de Venezuela, the country's national oil company controlled by Chavez, purchased U.S.-based Citgo Petroleum Corp. in 1990, and Giuliani's firm represents Citgo before the Texas legislature.
To date, Giuliani has directed most of his criticism at Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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Indeed.
But my main point about posting the CQ Politics piece on the Tsongas win, is that outsiders think that MA is some dem bastion. It isn't IMO, it's a indy bastion. Unfortunately, no indys get elected here because they usually are weak candidates and there's no party for them to canvass, fund, etc. for them.
I see NH becoming something similar too.
As I lifelong dem, I have to admit, I kind of like the idea that the indys are the largest voting block in MA. It's like a check and balance on either party (dem or repub) getting extreme.
If there's to be a movie about Howard's campaign, I would hope Clooney and Soderbergh would put out the call for Deaniac extras! That is, as long as the movie doesn't make Howard look stupid.
I hope it shows the incident the way it really was and then shows the way the media played it. That would do us quite a service!
Leo DiCaprio as Joe Trippi? I wouldn't have thought of him but I think he can do a good job with the part.
Meantime, a friend just sent me this NPR candidate selector quiz:
http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=25...
Richardson was my near-perfect match. Try it.
-- volney
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The fact that so many of the powerful are related to so many of the powerful is the best argument i know for campaign finance reform.
Michael Apted pointed out on PBS a few nights ago that the US has its own very pronounced class system based on money, but it's a short jump for that to be a class system based on bloodline as well, leading eventually to just the type of royal government we never wanted.
That we seem to be becoming addicted to electing people from the same families over and over should give us pause. There should probably be an anti-nepotism law on the presidency, but then we wouldn't have been able to have both TR and FDR. John Quincy Adams we probably wouldn't have missed.
-- volney
Let's see, my eighth cousin, jeez that could be anybody in America --
-- PeeWee Herman or Martha Stewart ?
Don't know and don't have the time to find out.
If there's to be a movie about Howard's campaign, I would hope Clooney and Soderbergh would put out the call for Deaniac extras! That is, as long as the movie doesn't make Howard look stupid.
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Sources of mine are in current negotiations with the production crew as we speak.....the one scene, at the Falls Church, VA Sleepless Summer Tour in August 2003 where Howard, after speaking to an over enthisisastic crowd of fellow Deaniacs, makes his way off the stage surrounded by reporters, CSPAN, etc and proceeds behind the podium walking down a roped off line signing autographs and shaking hands when surprisingly(and to me at the time also) a pretty little blonde girl(my daughter) age 9 is all alone in front of the Governor, in his path holiding out a piece of paper and marking pen, when he stops for her and politely signs his autograph for her...............to the delight of the spectators and CSPAN is filming it................
* rdorgan
Wed, 10/17/07
7:54 am
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I would consider it a lowering of ones personal standards if I were Obama....................
this is the reason there were 5 deaths in Freetown last month of cholera:
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/0adecad652c18a46113262a3298bbaf4.htm
SIERRA LEONE: Lots of rain but little water 16 Oct 2007 17:39:27 GMTSource: IRIN...FREETOW, 16 October 2007 (IRIN) - Freetown is one of the wettest capital cities in the world and yet even in the midst of heavy downpours its taps are often dry. The result is that many neighbourhoods have no piped water at all and women and children must roam the streets with buckets on their heads and in their hands looking for water. Many residents dig wells in swampy areas or collect water from polluted streams and rivers. Drinking that water often makes people sick. The main reason for the lack of water in the taps is that the surrounding dams are too small, the chief engineer of the city's water company, known as Guma Valley, Awoonor Williams told IRIN. "We even have to ration water in the rainy season to ensure there is something in reserve when it's dry," he said. The water company's infrastructure is so decrepit that it provides less than 60 percent of the city's water needs, he said. It is also illogical. The two main dams supplying Freetown, Guma Dam and Congo Dam, as well as a smaller one in the town of Regent, are all situated in the west end of the city while the bulk of the population live in the east. One dam in the east, Mamba Ridge, cannot hold more than 600,000 gallons, Williams said. "The cost of maintaining such a small dam is not worth it. Plus to pump water you need power from the national power authority and in Freetown there is almost a perpetual blackout." As it stands the city of 1.5 million people needs about 35 million gallons of water a day but the water company only has the capacity to pump 23 million gallons, Williams said. Of that, only 4 million gallons goes to the eastern districts, he added. In the dry season, when the level of the dams goes down, the water company only pumps 19 million gallons a day into the city. Much of the water that is pumped goes to waste. Many of the city's pipes are broken leaving water to leak into the ground. ...
Michael Ellis
Wed, 10/17/07
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If there's to be a movie about Howard's campaign, I would hope Clooney and Soderbergh would put out the call for Deaniac extras! That is, as long as the movie doesn't make Howard look stupid.
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Sources of mine are in current negotiations with the production crew as we speak.....the one scene, at the Falls Church, VA Sleepless Summer Tour in August 2003 where Howard, after speaking to an over enthisisastic crowd of fellow Deaniacs, makes his way off the stage surrounded by reporters, CSPAN, etc and proceeds behind the podium walking down a roped off line signing autographs and shaking hands when surprisingly(and to me at the time also) a pretty little blonde girl(my daughter) age 9 is all alone in front of the Governor, in his path holiding out a piece of paper and marking pen, when he stops for her and politely signs his autograph for her...............to the delight of the spectators and CSPAN is filming it................
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... and your daughter then turns to you and says: "I see alive people --
really alive !"
w00t!!
My main employee is in the hospital so I won't be posting except when I need a rest.
Iowa Republicans just lost their minds and jumped to Jan. 3rd.
I sticking with our official date unless Howard and the DNC say different. (but my vote is only one of 54)
I think they are up to mischief all along, and a college vacation break vote will just about invalidate the election here., because of the different demograhics of likely caucus goers according to the date.
I'm/ I
I'll blame my 16 hour day yesterday.
hey amigo to the south, sent some of your citizens up
workforce development laughed at me when I called asking if an experienced milker was available
I wonder who is going to play me in the Dean movie. I'm thinking Cate Blanchett, only a little shorter. ;-)
Man Made Climate Change Advocates Say Challenge To Gore Film Is Huge Industrialist Conspiracy
Outrageous response to High Court's inconvenient ruling
Infowars.net | October 15 , 2007
Steve Watson
Advocates of the man made global warming theory have jumped on an article in yesterday's London Observer which insinuates that a recent court case which attempted to stop Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth being shown to school children in the UK is part of a vast conspiracy secretly being implemented by big industry insiders.
The Observer article, via a series of tenuous claims, suggests that the school governor, Stewart Dimmock, who challenged the screening of Al Gore's climate change documentary in secondary schools, calling it "tantamount to brainwashing", was funded by "a powerful network of business interests with close links to the fuel and mining lobbies."
The claim has seemingly arose from the fact that Mr Dimmock says he received some financial backing from a small Scotland-based political party which campaigns for lower taxes and the expanding nuclear power. The report also says Dimmock was backed by (gasp, shock, horror) "a local Conservative Party figure".
The Observer then claims that this Scotland-based party received some funding three years ago from a non-profit body called Scientific Alliance , composed of scientists and non-scientists, which aims to challenge many of the claims about man made global warming.
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The Observer then makes a leap of faith by claiming that this group is linked to Exxon Mobil as it once co-authored a report, which questioned climate change claims, with the George C Marshall Institute, a US body that has been funded in the past by the energy giant Exxon Mobil.
Ever heard of the "you're only five steps away from any other person" theory? In short, advocates of man made climate change have decided that this series of unverified claims and distant links confirms that the kingpins of the big energy companies are involved in a secret plot to discredit Al Gore and his legion of man made global warming fans.
In truth, as the afore mentioned court case found , it is Al Gore's film itself that discredits the theory of man made global warming, as it is chock full of provable errors and junk science:
A British High Court judge this week exposed nine inaccuracies in former U.S. vice president Al Gore's award-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth, labelling it "a political film" and calling many of its claims about climate change "alarmist" and "exaggerated."
Though it stopped short of preventing the film being shown in schools, the High Court ruled that the documentary would have to be screened with guidance notes because it is unbalanced. Perhaps the judge involved in the case also has some distant and tenuous link to someone who once knew someone who worked for an energy company?
We have previously shown that although the UN's IPCC and Gore's film claim that "a consensus" of all scientists endorse the man made warming theory, studies have shown that in truth less than half even tacitly endorse it.
We have also shown that the common charge that questioning the official orthodoxy of the global warming religion equates to acting as a stooge for the western establishment and big business interests is a complete reversal of the truth. In fact it is the high priests of the elite and kingpin oil men like chairman of British Petroleum, Peter Sutherland, that continue to fan the flames of global warming hysteria.
Global Warming is being used by established western industrial nations in conjunction with globalist groups such as the CFR, Bilderberg and the Trilateral Commission, which are populated with heads of corporate industry, to place draconian restrictions upon developing countries and force up energy prices. Industrial globalists have everything to gain from perpetuating the man made theory, the logic that they would conspire against climate change advocates is impaired.
Man-Made Global Warming Is Politics Not Science
NINE CONVENIENT UNTRUTHS AS RULED BY THE BRITISH HIGH COURT
Untruth 1
Gore says: A sea-level rise of up to seven metres will be caused by melting of either West Antarctic or Greenland ice cap in the near future. Cities such as Beijing, Calcutta and Manhattan would be devastated.
Judge says: "This is distinctly alarmist, and part of Mr. Gore's 'wake-up call.' It is common ground that if indeed Greenland melted, it would release this amount of water, but only after, and over, millennia, so that the Armageddon scenario he predicts, insofar as it suggests that sea-level rises of seven metres might occur in the immediate future, is not in line with the scientific consensus."
Untruth 2
Gore says: Low lying inhabited Pacific atolls are being inundated because of anthropogenic global warming. "That's why the citizens of these Pacific nations have all had to evacuate to New Zealand."
Judge says: "There is no evidence of any such evacuation having yet happened."
Untruth 3
Gore says: The shutting down of the "Ocean Conveyor" would lead to another ice age.
Judge says: "According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, it is very unlikely that the Ocean Conveyor (an ocean current known technically as the Meridional Overturning Circulation or thermohaline circulation) will shut down in the future, though it is considered likely that thermohaline circulation may slow down."
Untruth 4
Gore says: Two graphs relating to a period of 650,000 years, one showing rise in CO2 and one showing rise in temperature, show an exact fit.
Judge says: "Although there is general scientific agreement that there is a connection, the two graphs do not establish what Mr. Gore asserts."
Untruth 5
Gore says: The disappearance of snow on Mt. Kilimanjaro is expressly attributable to global warming.
Judge says: "The scientific consensus is that it cannot be established that the recession of snows on Mt. Kilimanjaro is mainly attributable to human-induced climate change."
Untruth 6
Gore says: The drying up of Lake Chad is a prime example of a catastrophic result of global warming.
Judge says: "It is generally accepted that the evidence remains insufficient to establish such an attribution."
Untruth 7
Gore says: Hurricane Katrina and the consequent devastation in New Orleans is due to global warming.
Judge says: "It is common ground that there is insufficient evidence to show that."
Untruth 8
Gore says: Polar bears have drowned swimming long distances to find ice.
Judge says: "The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm."
Untruth 9
Gore says: Coral reefs are bleaching because of global warming.
Judge says: "The actual scientific view, as recorded in the IPCC report, is that, if the temperature were to rise by 1-3 degrees centigrade, there would be increased coral bleaching and widespread coral mortality, unless corals could adapt or acclimatize."
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hey donna I agree
anyone that still has the hats can be extras for that scene, but they will have to film it in Siberia because it hasn't been that cold here since
deep ocean water in the South Pacific has warmed 1.5 degrees C. already
They won't have trouble getting extras if they film in Iowa. The JJ Dinner entrance in the balcony was a high point, there with the screaming thousands. I had a cowbell down on the floor and my son finally had to tell me to cool it as I was getting a little boisterous and embarrassing him.
There is a new thread.
http://blogforamerica.com/view/22596
That's exactly what the film needs to be a success. Deaniacs for extras and MORE COWBELL!!!!!
Off to the salt mine. bbl
Some little island is already being flooded. It was on the news and the people interviewed were frightened. Forgot the name of the island. But hey, there's no rising sea levels and the polar bears are simply committing suicide.
OK, someone please tell me that our critters have gone completely insane with this Turkey genocide thing. The whole world is riled up by this and Turkey is threatening to not let the US use it anymore for it military purposes. That's what I woke up to this AM and think I got it right, tho groggy still. What in the world is the congress thinking and doing? They didn't see this coming? They are pi$$ing off even our friends and challenging rising world powers who have those things called nukes. It isn't just the BH anymore. Something is terribly wrong in the halls of congress. Is it collective guilt? Suicidal desires? Revenge on the American people? Why the genocide now or do we just not ask questions anymore and assume that insanity prevails. And what idiot thought this one up?
We are way past in trouble.
by LindainSFNM
Mon Oct 15th, 2007 at 07:53:12 AM EST
Edit My Story...
British Government released the movie, An Inconvenient Truth, to be shown in schools.
One man, Mr. Dimmock, a school Governor, challenged that in court, making of course, outrageous claims of the movie.
A Judge heard the case claiming the movie was politically biased, but it still could be shown in schools with guidlenes. And no surprise that the Republicants, FOX, Newsbusters and everyone else were trying to make so much out of-ITSELF being politically motivated. The story was reportedin mostly British papers, but the right wing papers, PACS and blogs did their best to distort the already political charge.
This outraged many, particularly in Britain, where it affects them. Teachers were asking why this was even being ruled by a Judge.
Teaching union slams Gore film ruling
Oct 12 2007 by Abbie Wightwick, Western Mail
WALES’ biggest teaching union yesterday accused a High Court Judge of acting like Big Brother by ruling a film about climate change can only be shown in schools if accompanied by new guidance notes to balance its views.
All schools and colleges in Wales were sent free copies of Al Gore’s film An Inconvenient Truth in a programme backed by the Welsh Assembly Government earlier this year.
A High Court challenge mounted by a parent in England, which also sent out copies of the film, resulted in a ruling yesterday that the film, much acclaimed by environmentalists, could be shown in schools as part of a climate change resource pack, but only if it was accompanied by new guidance notes to balance Mr Gore’s "one-sided" views.
Last night the WAG said it was considering the ruling’s implications, although no similar complaints from parents have been made here.
"This response from the High Court in London is outrageous. It is scary. It’s like the thought police. It’s 1984 arriving in 2007," he said. "It’s a slap in the face to teachers to suggest they are incapable of chairing a mature discussion to go with showing this film.
"I don’t think it’s appropriate for a judge to say what should be taught in schools and how. The only body that could do that would be the General Teaching Council for Wales."
Now being reported that Fuel and mining magnate backed UK challenge to An Inconvenient Truth.
The school governor who challenged the screening of Al Gore's climate change documentary in secondary schools was funded by a Scottish quarrying magnate who established a controversial lobbying group to attack environmentalists' claims about global warming.
It seems they have started a political organization to attack and distort the Climate Crisis realities, making Mr. Gore's their first challenge. Much like the organizations here fueled (pun intented) by the GOP (Gas Oil Petroleum) or King CONG (Coal Oil Nukes Gas), like American Enterprise Institute, TCPR, News Busters et al.
The Observer has established that Dimmock's case was supported by a powerful network of business interests with close links to the fuel and mining lobbies. He was also supported by a Conservative councillor in Hampshire, Derek Tipp.
Dimmock credited the little-known New Party with supporting him in the test case but did not elaborate on its involvement. The obscure Scotland-based party calls itself 'centre right' and campaigns for lower taxes and expanding nuclear power.
Records filed at the Electoral Commission show the New Party has received nearly all of its money - almost £1m between 2004 and 2006 - from Cloburn Quarry Limited, based in Lanarkshire.
The company's owner and chairman of the New Party, Robert Durward, is a long-time critic of environmentalists. With Mark Adams, a former private secretary to Tony Blair, he set up the Scientific Alliance, a not-for-profit body comprising scientists and non-scientists, which aims to challenge many of the claims about global warming.
It appears that Republicants and Conservanots around the world are making this issue, Global Warming and our Climate Crisis, political all by themselves. Along with other things like providing health care to chidlren-acting like a Brick Wall, just trying to stop progress and moving forward for the people and our planet.
It seems Mr. Gore will have no choice but to run for President. As Republicants and Conservanots have shown, making everything related to humanity poltical, and if these issues are to be solved, we need someone who cares about them to solve them.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/10/15/75312/642
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