Mike the LSU Tiger is first.

David Shuster really did a job on the Congresswoman from Tennessee. He was great!

Also, The War is just riveting. I told both my daughters about it & they are watching it & are learning things about  the War they never knew. Both said they are glued to the TV.

i think inviting he most radical people into open forums is the best way to understand the universe. hitler, yes. duke, yes. pol pot, yes. perhaps if we had forums like today, we'd all be much wiser in the end, and without the media telling you what you just heard.

i thank dog for his telling opinion. who but those who've sacrificed can speak to the matter?

btw, the spechts and howard are 1st.

Repost from bottom of last thread

I believe Columbia did a great service to Democracy and a further step towards peace by inviting Pres A. from Iran.

Dialogue isn't for just those we agree with and just think about hearing from his own lips, whether you agree or not, how he thinks. What you can learn from listening to him.

Thank you Columbia.



Where would we be if we refused to listen to opposing views and ideas or question what folks are telling you. Would we have found out the earth wasn't flat? Would people actually find out that our government was lying when they said Saddam Hussein was involved in 9 11. Would we have found out that our government was lying when our President claimed Saddam was trying to buy Yellow Cake.

Where would we be if Kennedy rushed to hit that button and didn't listen to our supposed enemy?

Disappointed in Florida's Debbie Wasserman Schultz.   She is working with Bill Nelson to undermine the DNC rules on the primary.    I was surprised at her.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1520

Gosh did bloggie turn into a pumpkin?

Some one else has been bitten by the Rene Pape bug and put up a couple of youtubes -- this one is about half of his song 'Mein Herz Brennt' done to stills of the gorgeous guy -- so Rammstein fans, Pape fans, enjoy. Others scroll...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-OH-NRv-...

PS -- I think the song is about the bogeyman who hides under your bed :~)

They come to you in the night
demons, ghosts, black fairies
they creep out of the cellar shaft
and will look under your bedding

Now, dear children, pay attention
I am the voice from the pillow
I have brought you something
a bright light on the heavens
my heart burns

http://herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/mutter#me...

Hi flagal -- guess I'm not the only insomniac -- I'm disappointed in her too.

G'nite.

well tomorrow's the big day - 10:00 AM Eastern time - Harry Reid promised to bring up the Biden-Boxer-Brownback bipartisan plan for an international effort to help Iraq Federalize into three States United in one country.

Respondng to the last thread...

Denise 72. and Paine 76.

Thank you!!  It is a mixed blessing, but sooo good that she doesn't have to go to Iraq.

She just wishes she could go to Disney World! Ha!

XOXOXXX

I thought Bollinger was disgraceful.

To *wipe s/o off the face of the earth* is an English colloquialism.  It doesn't translate into Farsi or Arabic or vice versa.  We must check out the ideology of the translator of that nasty quote and other quotes since translations are VERY important.    I read what was closer to the truth and should have saved it.  It wasn't nasty but it was pointed.

The victims always become the persecutors...always.  Check out your own families if you dare.  And the victim mentality coupled with power and bombs is dangerous beyond belief.  Victims always get to be right; they get to be pitied; they get to be supported; they get to wage wars and kill innocents in the name of victimhood.

The mantle of victimhood lies heavily over the world. 

"Either we're all victims, or no one is a victim."  TV show long ago. 

Denise, if you're here, maybe you misunderstood me.  I'm totally in favor of legal pot.  I also think that, like booze, some people will abuse it. 

"The War"...I guess we've learned nothing and I found it fascinating to learn so much about the sacrifice abroad and at home.  It had me tearing up several times.

Do doctors still use maggots to clean out festering wounds? 

Homeland Security Deputy Secretary Resigns
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092407R.shtml
Reporting for The Associated Press, Eileen Sullivan writes: "The Homeland Security Department's second-in-command resigned today, citing personal financial reasons."

Yeah, right, we believe that.

Scientists: Brain Injuries From War Worse Than Thought
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092407S.shtml
USA Today's Gregg Zoroya says, "Scientists trying to understand traumatic brain injury from bomb blasts are finding the wound more insidious than they once thought."

Someone shoulda strapped w to a chair and made his watch The War. 

This IS one of mine.

Reed

Thanks for all you do. The job of Chair is a lesson in geography and your day job makes you a natural. Go for it.

I am thankful to be a part of the struggle to take our country back with such a great bunch. I'm pretty busy farming but I'll be back and do lunch. I married a city girl that wasn't into that old rural tradition of bringing lunch to the fields and it's a good thing. disconnects are a safety plus In the old days a tangled crop like this would plug the picker and many farmers lost hands trying a quick cleanout while the machine was running. Now you are in a cab fifteen feet away from the problem. high enough in the air to look down into semi cabs on the road, but a word of caution to drivers I'm going less than 20 mph so get off the cruise and cell phone if you are coming up behind a combine 16 feet wide and pay attention to your driving, I can't see you if you are tailgating and I don't take out mailboxes, so no I'm not drunk if I look like I'm weaving down the road

11,
Jim Wallis of "God's Politics" agrees with you.
If you are a victim, you are not responsible. Israel and the Far Right live in their own victimhood paradise.
As long as the rest of the world allows Israel to play the victimhood card, then there will be no changes in their relationship with Palistine.
The Far Right claims the rest of the country thinks they are a bunch of neoreligious nutcase sadists who think nothing of spouting bible verses while killing innocent people. Hmmm..kinds sums it up doesn't it?

When I look at my own combat experiences and compare them to those in Iraq...I'll take mine any day.
We were in some pretty serious and deadly action. Lots of bad stuff all over the place. Fighting is very energy consuming. After a battle, everyone on both sides is dead tired exhausted. Fighting sucks up all the energy around it. Usually we had a few days between patrols. If something was cooking, we went on patrol one day and attacked soon after in the same day or early the next morning. Sometimes we would be attacked for a couple of days straight. The point is, there was always a little downtime to eat, get cleaned up, play cards, in some cases, smoke dope. As a NCO, I had to keep the guys busy and not let them dwell on what was happening. There are always latrines to be dug, gun emplacements to construct, planes to unload, areas to clean up. These mindless tasks are important because it allows the mind to unwind.
Iraq is a totally different animal. The troops never get downtime. After a patrol, there is a few hours break and then another patrol. They never get a chance to shut down and recharge. There are new booby traps that kill folks hours after the area was cleared by someone else. Like VN, the locals hate us and in VN we made no attempt to hide our contempt and desire to keep space between us and the South Viet. army.
In Iraq, the troops are forced to "play nice" with people that would rather kill us then help us.
A bazaar effect of outsourcing support is the mindless "wind-down" tasks we did are now done by contractors making many times the money while living in relatively luxurious accommodations. Our troops in Iraq never get a chance to shut down. The time between deployments is shorter and sorter and deployments are longer and longer. No wonder our troops are loosing their minds. If we think we have troubles with broken veterans now, wait a few years as the suppressed horrors bubble up to the surface.

dog soldier
Tue, 09/25/07
7:02 am

Thanks for the effort you took to relay your thoughts, dog.  

I'd like to see your post in print (NYTimes, etc) as an opinion piece.

It is time, and it is relevant to all sides and the middle. 

If my son checks back I'll share that a train derailment dumped 600 tons of soybean meal into Bloody Run (trout stream).

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Crikey Phil...............now Hollywood will go there and make  a new cult classic..."Soylent Stream".......

ITS PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Ellis: I think Columbia's decision to let Ahmadinejad speak was despicable

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 Well Jon you are entitled to your opinion..................Im quite certain that many of your counterparts around the globe and especially at Teheran University would feel the same way about it of Bush were invited there..................IF you are a young person, my only advice to you would be to study the fact that unless people in the wrold learn to talk regardless of their diferances, we can be certain that more unnecesary wars and bloodshed will take place.

You dont have to agree with any said person, but to shut oneseslf off from the rest of the world might not be such a good thing..............what are you so afraid of anyway? One man cannot do you any harm I assure you.........

Time stamp 00:15

Good day, off here to work.

Ah, good morning.

Back to civilization.  Panera bread has the most wonderful pastries and free WiFi.

We slept in an empty house on an inflatable mattress.  The neighborhood is fairly quiet 

Jon Specht
Mon, 09/24/07
10:33 pm

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I sense a little taunting, its Ok..made me chuckle a bit..........

DEMS--YOU WERE GIVEN POWER TO END THE WAR

USE IT!

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/senate-dems-reluctant-to-try-to-revoke-iraq-war-authority-2007-09-25.html

The five-year anniversary of the congressional resolution to authorize the Iraq war is less than three weeks away, and prospects for legislation by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and others to revoke that authority have dissipated in the face of stiff opposition within the Senate Democratic Caucus.

“I think it raises more problems than it solves,” said Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.), who is managing the pending defense authorization bill, the vehicle for this month’s Iraq debate in the Senate. [THANKS CARL!]

On Tuesday, the Senate is expected to vote and likely reject a plan by Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) to partition Iraq into its three rival ethnic factions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-court/clintons-triangulation-o_b_65737.html

HILLARY'S TRIANGULATION WILL PROBABLY KILL HEALTH-CARE REFORM

IClinton said "I believe in reality-based politics" as a way to explain why her plan requiring every American to buy private health insurance does not regulate insurers' premiums.

Here's what she's saying to us: You must buy their insurance. And here's what she's saying to insurance companies: You can charge them whatever you want!

Mandatory purchase of private insurance is a scam, not real universal health care reform.

Hillary Clinton's first attempt at health care reform in 1993 took away
public officials' will to reform health care for more than a decade.
Senator Clinton's second attempt, unveiled last week, could sap their
tentative new ambitions.

Sentator Clinton is triangulating health care reform by embracing the very
Republican notion of "shared responsibility" pioneered by the likes of
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt
Romney. Their common aim is to let the medical insurance complex charge
what it wants and force American business, taxpayers and individuals to pay
the premium.

If Senator Clinton succeeds, the goal of universal health care, providing
security of access to timely medical care for every American, will have
morphed into a guaranteed market for undeserving private health insurers.
These companies increased premiums 250% more than the rate of medical
inflation.

By bowing so low to the medical-insurance complex that trashed her
first-lady plan, Sen. Clinton has likely put the brakes on any greater
ambitions by presidential rivals and followers in statehouses across
America.

In his 1996 state of the union address, President Bill Cinton ushered in
the era of triangulation by declaring, "The era of big government is over."
Now Senator Clinton has ended the era of government-regulated health care
before it has even begun.

FOR THOSE WHO STILL DEFEND "HILLARYCARE"

LETTER TO NYT

It is amazing how the presidential candidates are determined to come up with health insurance programs that are invariably complicated, often tied to employers, and frequently based on taxation gimmicks. They seem to ignore the one insurance program that is overwhelmingly popular and already has infrastructure in place: Medicare.

It is a highly efficient program that confounds all the critics of government-run health care. There are no restrictions on choosing doctors, the medical providers do not work for the government, and the processing of insurance claims is virtually transparent to the consumer.

In fact, from a consumer standpoint, Medicare is the best health insurance program ever invented.

The easiest solution to the problem of health care coverage, without resorting to one of the half-baked schemes offered by the candidates, is to simply offer Medicare coverage to anyone who wants it.

One possible reason Kucinich and Gravel are low in the polls?

My New Hampshire phone rings (caller ID 000-000-0000 WTF?)and I pick it up out of curiosity. “This is (talking like a magpie so I haven’t got a clue what the name of the company is) Research. Would you like to be part of a poll for the Democratic presidential primary candidate?” I agree and the woman rapidly reads the list of candidates. “Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Dodd, Biden and Richardson.” I say, “Kucinich.” The woman on the phone says “Who?” I say, “Kucinich. Dennis Kucinich.” I hear coaching in the background - apparently the call is being monitored. “I’m sorry, but Dennis Kucinich is not on our list. Is there anyone on the list I gave you who you would vote for?”

So there you have it. Kucinich is down in the polls because he isn’t included in the polls . . . and you can forget about Gravel, too.

Good morning borgie,

Seashell I love your picture -- is it a painting?
Listener, that's a two edged sword with your wife, but great she doesn't have to go to Iraq.
Phil, I always hate to get behind 'you' on the road, but I'm glad you explained the weaving. I bet your wife knows you would like a break at lunch.
CSPAN had pro/con SCHIP this morning -- Leavitt is an idiot -- spouting meme about how countries with 'socialized' medicine have to wait in 'long lines' for care.
Reason for Hill's healthcare scheme I think if she doesn't allow for insurance companies she will never get a bill past the moneychangers, I mean lobbyists.
dog soldier I'm enjoying your commentary, especially as it is paralleling the War series.

Guess thass all folks-off to work soon.

29.

Huron John
Tue, 09/25/07
8:47 am

That sure tells us something doesn't it.

29 HJ, that is amazing. Was this a Presidential Poll or NOT?

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29 HJ, that is amazing. Was this a Presidential Poll or NOT?

YEP

The "War" series is bringing back some memories; not all of them unpleasant.

I am always struck by the resilience of my father's generation. My dad was born on a small farm in south-central illinois in 1913. The familiy was large (6 kids) and the farm small (less then 200 farmable acres) and money was always tight.
When the Great Depression started in 1929, the older kids were forced to leave home and fend for themselves. At 16, my dad became a hobo; wandering the rails looking for work at the next WPA project.
In 1939, he joined the military as part of Roosevelt's military buildup. It saved his life. Along comes WWII and three years of combat later (1st Div from Africa until VE Day, then shipped out to prepare for the invasion of Japan), he is back where he started from.
He went to college on the GI Bill and became a chemist. His life steadily improved until he died in 1995 at the age of 82.
The point is this generation went thru a horrible depression where people starved to death to a horrible war where the sacrifices of all never stopped. I am always moved by the quiet courage by folks like my dad. They went thru two major upheavels back-to-back. There was great concern for their neighbors (as long as they were white) because everyone was in it together.
Our generation has phonies like the Clintons', Bushs' and Reagans whose main successes are blowing smoke up our willing asses.
My dad used to lament that his generation destroyed most of the natural resources in the world; even after saving it form Nazis and struggling thru a horrible depression.
Talk to people about global warming, the environment, war, helping others and you get a glimmer at best; then it is back to OJ and Brittany.
I don't see any one running with the internal power that a Roosevelt had. We prefer the outwardly flashy types. In the immortal words of Mike Ditka about Buddy Ryan; "An empty tin can makes a lot of noise!."
Those words apply to almost all who are running.

WHO'S IN CHARGE?

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/#63505

Sen. David Vitter, R-La., earmarked $100,000 in a spending bill for a Louisiana Christian group that has challenged the teaching of Darwinian evolution in the public school system and to which he has political ties.

The money is included in the labor, health and education financing bill for fiscal 2008 and specifies payment to the Louisiana Family Forum "to develop a plan to promote better science education."

Uh huh...just like J. Michael Bailey wanted to "help" transsexuals via The Man Who Would be Queen.

I think that, given that the Dems have no backbone whatsoever when it comes to standing up to the Iraq War lies, it is our duty to force them to make a stand on this illegal contribution to anti-constitutionist nutcases piece of pork. They ran on ethics in '06; they implicitly stand for science over ChristoBush mythology - so they damn well better be willing to not simply cut this tumor from the bill but also make a spectacle of it - and this clown's psycho-hypocritical 'morals' - in the process.

IS KEITH THE NEXT MURROW?

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/63464/

Evening news shows, with ratings going down the toilet, need less "objectivity" and more analysis. Luckily Olbermann, like Murrow, understands that objective journalism doesn't exist

LCS 751 passes through the Golden Gate today on its way to Vallejo. It's been on loan to the Thai army but it's the last ship of its kind left - a real WWII veteran. A workhorse that protected the larger vessels that carried troops landing on the shores duirng The War.

Many local vets will be on hand today to welcome her home!

How fitting

dog soldier
Tue, 09/25/07
9:18 am
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Some great posts..........thanks alot

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/05/...

Link to read more about the history of this ship

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_charlie__070920_i_quit_the_democrats.htm

I am no longer a Democrat.

There have been many signs over the last years that the Democratic Party was being controlled by corporate interests who were driving it further and further to the right in an attempt to capture some "center" that doesn't really exist. Rahm Emanuell is just one symptom, as is Nancy Pelosi's taking impeachment "off the table" and Reid's unwillingness to push harder for Inherent Contempt charges in the Senate.

The Senate vote on 20-Sept-07 to demean and debase MoveOn.org (an organization that I generally support, though I've had my differences with them over their strange positions on Election Reform) was the last straw.

For 22 Democratic Senators to believe they needed to ride roughshod over the First Amendment in order to look "strong on the military" was a pathetic and weak move. This from a leadership that couldn't even get a bill past a filibuster, but didn't seem to want to do any filibustering of their own when they were in the minority? I wasn't impressed.  The Military Commissions Act and the NSA Spy Program wouldn't even BE laws if the minority Democrats had the same level of cohesive resolve IN SUPPORT OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION THEY PLEDGED TO UPHOLD  that the Rethuglicans are showing towards its destruction.

I give up. The system really IS broken, and the people I always thought would be my heroes have shown themselves to be sell-outs and weak-willed corporate cronies

Huron John
Tue, 09/25/07
9:32 am
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Quiet......we are "guests" here...........musntnt speak out..........

{{{Dog}}}, thank you for your stories and life experiences. I agree.

Gore seeks regular summits on global warming
Tue 25 Sep 2007, 5:45 GMT

By Jeff Mason

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The world's top leaders should meet every three months, starting next year, until a plan is drawn up to reduce emissions blamed for global warming, former U.S. Vice President Al Gore said on Monday.

Gore, who has made climate change his signature issue since leaving the White House, told a U.N. meeting that presidents and prime ministers should go to Bali this year for talks on a follow-up pact to the Kyoto Protocol, which runs out in 2012.


Traditionally, environment ministers or lower-level negotiators attend the annual U.N. climate change talks, but Gore said leaders should go from now on and then hold follow-up meetings.

"I would like to propose ... that the heads of state around the world call an emergency session of this gathering for the beginning of next year to review the results of Bali," he said.

They should "continue to meet at the head of state level every three months until a treaty is successfully arrived at," Gore said. "We cannot continue business as usual."

The Kyoto Protocol requires 36 industrial countries to cut greenhouse gas emissions by at least 5 percent from 1990 levels by 2012. Leaders from the Group of Eight leading industrial nations pledged in June to find a follow-up deal for Kyoto by 2009.
[snip]
Gore said a post-Kyoto treaty should enter into force in 2010, two years earlier than planned.

"We simply cannot wait longer," he said. "There must be differentiated obligations, of course, but all nations must participate as part of the solution."

The former vice president also called for a moratorium on new coal-fired power plants that do not have facilities to trap and store carbon dioxide.
http://africa.reuters.com/top/news/usnBA...

Gore to Receive Sierra Club's Highest Award

SAN FRANCISCO, California, September 24, 2007 (ENS) - Former Vice President Al Gore, who has spent 30 years making the world aware of the dangers of global warming, will receive the Sierra Club's top award this year, the environmental group announced today.

Between his earliest political career in 1976 as a representative of Tennessee's Fourth District, and his two-term vice presidency beginning in 1993, Gore helped set the political and popular stages for prime-time environmentalism, the Sierra Club said today.

He was one of the first politicians to grasp the seriousness of climate change and to call for a reduction in emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. He held the first congressional hearings on the subject in the late 1970s.

Since then, he has presented the science behind global warming and its predicted catastrophic effects more than 1,000 times. His message reached the general public with the 2006 documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth." The film has won numerous awards, including two Academy Awards. His paperback book of the same name reached number one on the New York Times Best Seller list.

On July 7, 2007, Gore reached a global audience with his Live Earth Concerts, when he orchestrated 24 hours of concerts on seven continents asking for each person watching to make a pledge to take action for the environment. He has been nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his work on climate change.

The award Gore will receive, the John Muir Award, commemmorates Sierra Club founder John Muir, who lived from 1838 to 1914. His letters, essays, and books about the Sierra Nevada Mountains of California are still read today. His direct actions helped to save the Yosemite Valley and other wilderness areas.

"Al Gore is the embodiment of the principles for which John Muir passionately devoted his life: to protect a place for its own sake, for our sake, and even in spite of us; a place we call Earth," said Sierra Club President Dr. Robbie Cox.

Tom Friedman, foreign affairs columnist for the New York Times, is receiving the David R. Brower Award, which recognizes a professional journalist for stories pertaining to the environment.

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/sep2007/...

dog soldier thanks again for another moving personal experience and for sharing it with us.

My dad was a Marine in WWII. He was fortunate - though he was stationed in Santa Barbara he never shipped out. Came close, though. Was called for duty on the Franklin but he and about 30 others were called off the ship, which later suffered a very serious torpedo attack. He spent his days, of all places, as a bartender in the Officer's Club. And he didn't drink! He was a marksman with a rifle and I have his medals.

He was born on a farm in Grand Haven, MI and his father, a WWI vet, worked him like a slave, and pretty much mistreated him. He left for Chicago at age 17 with five dollars from a wallet he found - got on the bus to find his mother, who had divorced his dad when he was 3 years old. Finding no work in Chicago, he joined the CCC and helped put in the roads of the great Upper Peninsula of Michigan - a place we still enjoy today as our vacation home is there. He died in 1990 at age 68 from Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, which was not very treatable at the time. How ironic that the company I work for has a drug called Ritxuan that has put many people in very long remissions for that same disease. Clinical trials for humans started in 1994 - he just missed it. But he never complained much during his life. He was an avid fisherman. I still have his WWII green wool blanket with his name on it - it's my treasure and remembrance of a man, though who never saw combat, fought many tough battles in his personal life.

http://www.examiner.com/a-953145~Bush_quietly_advising_Hillary_Clinton__top_Democrats.html


Examiner Exclusive: Bush quietly advising Hillary Clinton, top Democrats
14 hrs ago by Bill Sammon, The Examiner


In an interview for the new book “The Evangelical President,” White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten said Bush has “been urging candidates: ‘Don’t get yourself too locked in where you stand right now. If you end up sitting where I sit, things could change dramatically.’ ”

Bolten said Bush wants enough continuity in his Iraq policy that “even a Democratic president would be in a position to sustain a legitimate presence there.”
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Excuse me folks, but there is so much exciting Gore news this morning.



Oscar winner Kevin Spacey cast in HBO's "Recount"
Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:41pm EDT


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Two-time Oscar winner Kevin Spacey will star as a top aide to former Vice President Al Gore in the upcoming TV movie "Recount," about the contested 2000 U.S. presidential election, the HBO network said on Monday.

Spacey, whose last dramatic television role was at least 15 years ago, will join Academy Award nominees Laura Dern and Tom Wilkinson, as well as Denis Leary of FX cable series "Rescue Me" and "St. Elsewhere" veteran Ed Begley Jr.

The political drama, set to start shooting next month, will trace the story behind the acrimonious ballot recounts in Florida at the end of the 2000 race between Democrat Gore and then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush, a Republican.

According to Daily Variety, which broke news of the "Recount" casting, the made-for-television movie will air in the midst of next year's campaign for the White House.

http://www.reuters.com/article/televisio...

Kevin Spacey it to play Al Gore's chief of staff Ronald Klain in the film Recount, joining John Hurt, Tom Wilkinson, Laura Dern, Denis Leary and Ed Begley Jr.

LOL can't even spell our products correctly - it's Rituxan and it's a wonder drug.

Oh, {{{{{Denise}}}}}, wow. I'm sorry for your loss. It must give some comfort knowing the many lives you are contributing to saving.

My Uncle/Godfather died from Hodgkins.

47,
There is no possible way our presence is legitimate, as our entire being there is illegitimate. I am convinced the Bush strategy is to continue their misguided path in their belief that each day they do this makes it harder and harder to change course. Any study of people or warfare show that the more Bush fouls it up; changing course becomes more likely as what Bush is doing is not sustainable. In other words, Bush incompetence (or is it the real neocon plan?) is leading to a change regardless of what Bush wants.

Thanks Linda - yes there are many still alive so it does my heart good. We are not just another pharmaceutical company by any means :)

Off to work which is still a joy after 10 years here.

xoxo

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 Well Jon you are entitled to your opinion..................Im quite certain that many of your counterparts around the globe and especially at Teheran University would feel the same way about it of Bush were invited there.........

Which is worse -- a president who made a bigoted remark or one who ordered the deaths of hundereds of thousands ? 

With Bush as their president, Americans have no right to look down their noses at any others. 

Come ye to the NEW THREAD!

I am no longer a Democrat.

Perhaps the fastest growing club in America these days. 

http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/22312...