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Press Release: Democracy for America Endorses Isabel Piedmont for Bloomington City Council

Written by: Sheri Divers on Sep 14, 2007 1:00 PM EDT

BURLINGTON, VT -- On behalf of the progressive grassroots, Democracy for America (DFA) has endorsed Isabel Piedmont for Bloomington City Council, District 5 in Indiana.

“DFA endorses Isabel Piedmont with great pride and enthusiasm because she shares our belief in people-powered politics. She’s committed to creating a government that works for you and delivers the services Bloomington residents need. She will fight for fairness, governmental accountability and the common good while moving Bloomington forward,” said DFA chair Jim Dean. 

Piedmont is running for Bloomington City Council with the backing of Democracy for Monroe County and Democracy for America.  Isabel is a true grassroots activist, a regular attendee of her local DFA Link-up events, and a May graduate of the DFA Training Academy in Bloomington.  This election, Isabel is running to build a sustainable community and involve more people in civic action.   

Founded by Governor Howard Dean in 2004, Democracy for America is a political action committee dedicated to supporting progressive candidates at all levels of government -- from the School Board to the Presidency. DFA is empowering everyday Americans to reform their political system. Find out more at www.democracyforamerica.com/candidates

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By * rdorgan on Sep 14, 2007 1:04 PM EDT

First is tolerance.

IMO a good practitioner of that is Chairman former governor Howard Dean, MD.

He's put up with a lot over the years and still keeps on going and going and ...

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By Deaniac in GA on Sep 14, 2007 1:08 PM EDT

dang,
Peace is the way way up there on my list.
Death, and it's supporters are last.

GO DENNIS GO!!

1 - 877 - 413 - 3664

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By Michael Ellis on Sep 14, 2007 1:08 PM EDT

Did anyone see Huckabees post Democratic reaction to Bush speech last nite?

Does that guy believe in shaving or not?  His 5 oclock shadow was horible looking an he lloked like he was getting ready for the ho down square dancing competition in Fayetteville..................

Eyes are weird too.................what a bunch of oddball candidates for that party...................

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 1:13 PM EDT

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This time it was Edwards, Mike. Last time I went ballistic it was Dodd that I scared away. The coincidence is remarkable. I think Phil really believes it.

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 1:14 PM EDT

Great photo

 Mexico,

July 31, 2007

 Constitution to Al Gore, "please save me".
 
Maybe we should also be forwarding this to every Congress person for a
reminder of their job.
 
This is a video with snippets of Al Gore's speech last year at
Constitution Hall about the over reaching powers and trampling of our
Constitution.
 
http://tinyurl.com/3dkndm

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 1:14 PM EDT

KRUGMAN BOMBSHELL THIS MORNING

Paul Krugman released a bombshell editorial today that exposes the flaming carcass of the "nation" of Iraq for what it is. There is no nation of Iraq. There are three major ethnic groups fighting for control of resources and a number of smaller groups fighting to survive.

Given that there is no nation of Iraq and the U.S. still needs Iraqi oil the fall back position for big oil is to cut separate regional deals with the regional governments. That is exactly what has happened. Paul Krugman reveals:

What’s particularly revealing is the cause of the breakdown. Last month the provincial government in Kurdistan, defying the central government, passed its own oil law; last week a Kurdish Web site announced that the provincial government had signed a production-sharing deal with the Hunt Oil Company of Dallas, and that seems to have been the last straw.

Now here’s the thing: Ray L. Hunt, the chief executive and president of Hunt Oil, is a close political ally of Mr. Bush. More than that, Mr. Hunt is a member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, a key oversight body.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/14/...

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 1:16 PM EDT

From the American bar Association Journal http://www.abajournal.com/news/new_uc_ir...

Erwin Chemerinsky, a renowned constitutional law scholar at Duke University, reportedly agreed to be dean of the new University of California law school slated to open at Irvine next year—but was then fired a week later due to his controversial political views.

So says a University of Texas law professor on his Brian Leiter's Law School Reports blog, and the Wall Street Journal Law Blog has since confirmed the news by talking with Chemerinsky himself.
Chemerinsky, who was to start work at Irvine's Donald Bren School of Law next summer, said he was told yesterday by UC Irvine Chancellor Michael V. Drake that he “hadn’t expected that I would be such a target for conservatives, a lightning rod," the WSJ Law Blog reports.


Feel free to write the Chancellor as I did.

law@uci.edu

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 1:14 PM EDT

There are three major ethnic groups fighting for control of resources and a number of smaller groups fighting to survive.

Don't forget US troops stuck in the middle of it and doing quite a bit of damage and killing on their own -- not even to any purpose. 

Given that there is no nation of Iraq and the U.S. still needs Iraqi oil......

Since virtually no oil has come from Iraq since the invasion (except what has been smuggled), the US can obviously get along fine without it.

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By Deaniac in GA on Sep 14, 2007 1:15 PM EDT

'I went ballistic'

now there might be some hope, if you see a professional. maybe a bat, for the batty?

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By former on Sep 14, 2007 1:18 PM EDT

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Fri, 09/14/07
1:08 pm

...last week a Kurdish Web site announced that the provincial government had signed a production-sharing deal with the Hunt Oil Company of Dallas, and that seems to have been the last straw.

Now here’s the thing: Ray L. Hunt, the chief executive and president of Hunt Oil, is a close political ally of Mr. Bush. More than that, Mr. Hunt is a member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, a key oversight body.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/14/...
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Big "news"!

Ability to make a "gross generalization", e.g. ability to think logically would bring one to THAT conclusion about 4.5 years ago...or even BEFORE that..., lol.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 1:18 PM EDT

This is a video with snippets of Al Gore's speech last year at
Constitution Hall about the over reaching powers and trampling of our
Constitution.

This is a good example of why Gore doesn't need yet to declare as a candidate. He doesn't need to wade through the muck to sell himself since his record sells him by itself. 

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By Deaniac in GA on Sep 14, 2007 1:18 PM EDT

... gotta run

Love ya'll, even the whiney(but not the vulgar), mean it!!

Kucinich/Feingold '08

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By Michael Ellis on Sep 14, 2007 1:19 PM EDT

FRED from OR
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Well, Ill take your side on this one...........hey!  If Edwards cant handle a "little street talk" then he had better toughen it up a bit for the next year or so he best grow a thick hide...........................

What thenhell are these candidates anyways?  Bleedin monks or priests?  Shheezzzzzzzzzzz

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 1:19 PM EDT

Now here’s the thing: Ray L. Hunt, the chief executive and president of Hunt Oil, is a close political ally of Mr. Bush. More than that, Mr. Hunt is a member of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, a key oversight body.

This actually explains why Bush now says we need to stay in Iraq forever --  to protect Hunt's deal.

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By * rdorgan on Sep 14, 2007 1:20 PM EDT

8.

That IMO is an unprofessional comment.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 1:25 PM EDT

That IMO is an unprofessional comment.

Let's hope there are no professional bloggers among us. But based on how some overdo it in support of some candidates, there may well be. 

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By Deaniac in GA on Sep 14, 2007 1:27 PM EDT

* rdorgan
Fri, 09/14/07
1:20 pm

... this site does not require a license to practice opinion.

... must go

... ;~)

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By * rdorgan on Sep 14, 2007 1:33 PM EDT

17.

See ya doc.

Since you seem to question certain bloggers mental stability here, I can understand if you need to get back to your practice.

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By seashell on Sep 14, 2007 1:50 PM EDT
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By * rdorgan on Sep 14, 2007 2:00 PM EDT

 Sheri -

Thanks for intervening in one of the posted blog entries today.

IMO Fred from OR gets taunted not only by Sitka but also by Deaniac from GA.

Deaniac (if you scroll backwords through past threads) has repeatedly questioned Fred's mental stability.

This IMO has contributed to a blog environment that in Phil's words is not just "rough and tumble" but rather worse -- one that is needlessly insensitive to others with differing views.

IMO that's not grown up at all and reminds me of witnessing bullying on a school yard.

I'm getting tired of seeing it day in and day out.

I feel it contributes to an environment that newcomers, that might be intererested in joining the blog, get turned off instead.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:05 PM EDT

I'm getting tired of seeing it day in and day out.

Lots of people are tired of the Obamaspam too. But nobody calls rdorgan ugly names or tells him what to eat. 

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By * rdorgan on Sep 14, 2007 2:06 PM EDT

If this gets me kicked off the blog for posting this, so be it.

And I don't agree with Fred's vulgarity either.

nuf said (I've said too much already)

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By rich^kolker on Sep 14, 2007 2:09 PM EDT

Now,

You all ne nice or I'll have Robert come back!

 

:-)

 

 

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By Sheri Divers on Sep 14, 2007 2:18 PM EDT

RDorgan,

Well, we're turning the corner now as blog community. We've recently reviewed the DFA Terms of Service and we're all going to do better now and treat each other the way we'd like to be treated.

After all, we're all friends in the fight to take our country back!

Happy Friday!

Sheri

Blog Police

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:20 PM EDT

20. * rdorgan

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Good post, *rdorgan.

Maybe if enough of the intelligent reasonable people on this blog band together we can bring an end to this sophomoric bicker... or at least discourage it, before it engulfs our blog. BTW I am against Fred's vulgarity too.

rich^kolker

Robert was an obnoxious blue dog, who liked to disagree, but he was not in constant hyperactive attack mode like these guys, and certainly did not engage in childish name-calling. For folks who claim to be for peace, these guys are pretty aggressive. expect cheap shot response.

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:24 PM EDT

24. good to see you, Sheri, thanks for the visibility, whenever you can make it.

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 2:24 PM EDT

www.NMWellnessCoalition.org















Exercise may generate new blood vessels

Having a bad heart doesn't mean you can skip exercise, doctors said Wednesday. In fact, it may even help your heart to repair itself. Research presented at the European Society of Cardiology meeting showed that exercise sparks the creation of new heart vessels.

In a small study of 37 people at Leipzig University in Germany, Dr. Robert Hollriegel found that people with serious heart failure who rode a bike for up to 30 minutes a day for four months produced new stem cells in their bones.

They also had more small blood vessels in their muscles. Those who didn't exercise had no change in their vessels or muscles.




http://nmwellnesscoalition.org/news_ad.h...

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 2:27 PM EDT

You know, I can't count the "taunting" done by - oh so many, it's EXHAUSTING sometimes, especially the degree. But even funnier is folks who try to make excuses for why they resort to name calling and attacking, because they were taunted. Can we please be real. We know what is proper or not and I am VERY THANKFUL Sheri WILL BE paying attention, as she has been, for those that need the added guidance.

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:29 PM EDT

Last night on Charlie Rose, someone said that BAGHDAD WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED of Sunnis and that there were no mixed neighborhood's left, and in fact just a few Sunnis left on the West end. Catching the rerun now, I'll try to find out the source.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:29 PM EDT

expect cheap shot response.

No need. Every time FRED speaks he throws another log on his own pyre. 

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:31 PM EDT

Last night on Charlie Rose, someone said that BAGHDAD WAS ETHNICALLY CLEANSED of Sunnis and that there were no mixed neighborhood's left

So the Biden plan is even more outdated than we thought. 

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By Michael Ellis on Sep 14, 2007 2:34 PM EDT

rich^kolker
Fri, 09/14/07
2:09 pm
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Actually I kinda miss the old koot..............

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:34 PM EDT

28. Linda*in*SFNM

But even funnier is folks who try to make excuses for why they resort to name calling and attacking, because they were taunted...

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Well that won't be me, because I will no longer respond in kind to those who attack me, name-call me, taunt or "label" me in absurd political terminology.

We are here to discuss issues.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:33 PM EDT

Exercise may generate new blood vessels

Just got back from a mile run in the AZ heat and girl can I feel them growing! 

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 2:35 PM EDT

taunt 1 (tônt) Pronunciation Key
tr.v.
To drive or incite (a person) by taunting.


You know, I don't mean to be cranky, but I'm tired of people always trying to blame others for their own actions. Accept responsibility for what oneself does. OK?


Move on.

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:36 PM EDT

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If that was a joke - ethnic cleansing is not funny, it is a tragic human disaster.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:37 PM EDT

If that was a joke - ethnic cleansing is not funny, it is a tragic human disaster.

I've never considered Biden's aparteid/ethnic-cleansing/segregation plan to be funny. 

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:44 PM EDT

I've never considered Biden's aparteid/ethnic-cleansing/segregation plan to be funny.....

PS....but as FRED himself just pointed out, Bush is already accomplishing it.

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By seashell on Sep 14, 2007 2:46 PM EDT

Sheri, as long as you're here, could we have an edit or delete button if we mistakenly copy spam?  A preview button would really help since it all looks nice and normal until it's pasted and then it's too late.

I've had to quit Firefox to avoid problems and even that hasn't worked most of the time.  Of course, I can switch to plain text but then I can't post an important photo if there is one, nor is the link in blue.

And thanks everso (Marilyn Monroe impersonation) for reminding us that we don't need to name call, altho you let me get away with calling bush *putz.*  LOL 

 

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:47 PM EDT

37. Sitka

I've never considered Biden's aparteid/ethnic-cleansing/segregation plan to be funny
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You are the only person I've ever heard describe it that way... and certainly never heard Biden express allude to such things. You just made that up... and that is not funny either. It is slander...plain and simple

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 2:51 PM EDT

Just saw on Charlie Rose

GEORGE PACKER of The New Yorker

said there are just a few Pockets of Sunnis in Baghdad. It has been ethnically-cleansed in the last year by Shiites and is no longer a mixed city.

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By Sheri Divers on Sep 14, 2007 2:52 PM EDT

Seashell,

I'm sorry...didn't I mention that Bush doesn't count? LOL!

Sitka, stop needling Fred.

Sheri

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:52 PM EDT


You are the only person I've ever heard describe it that way...

Really? FRED doesn't remember this?

Biden: Ethnic cleansing a legitimate US policy tool

(Which I posted long after describing it as such myself.) 

and certainly never heard Biden express allude to such things. You just made that up... 

Actually, I heard it from FRED that Biden wants to partition the country along ethnic and religious lines. That's aparteid, ethnic cleansing, segregation -- whichever term one prefers.

But since Bush is already doing it, and wants to leave US troops in Iraq indefinitely, there's really no need for a redundent "Biden" plan. 

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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 2:53 PM EDT

There's a nice diary on KOS about Dodd, with lots of comments

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/14/114823/648 

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 2:56 PM EDT

Sitka, stop needling Fred.

Did you ever consider that he needles many with nonstop Bidenmania? I'm merely debunking it ---  along with others who disagree with it.

Do we have to agree that everyone's favorite candidate is the best and that their records and proposals are above scrutiny? 

I'm sure you don't think so. 

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 2:58 PM EDT

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that's good Fred. Because if we try to label, "taunting" , soliciting, begging, what ever names we want to put on what drives our own buttons exists in all forms, many different ways, from many people.

Some one actually can post an article of someone actually attacking anothers preferred candidate, because the other person could be complaining about the other persons preferred candidate as a payback.....that's a taunt too. egging one on, try to get a rise out of them. It happens from many in many different forms.

That doesn't mean we should find it acceptable to lose decency and go all out on attacking.

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 2:58 PM EDT

WUFT FM Friday afternoon trivia question:
This composer gave a musical account of what it was like to go progressively deaf, a string quartet entitled From My Life. Name the composer.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 3:00 PM EDT

This composer gave a musical account of what it was like to go progressively deaf,

BE-E-TO-VEN? 

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 3:04 PM EDT

Charlie Rose:

Al Hunt of Bloomberg news says that Democrats' problem is the extremity of the core. Something like "Obama proposed a 13-14 month exit which is about as fast as you can go, and he was very badly hammered and criticized by the blogs, and the core of the Left"

George Packer (maybe it was Sheryl Gay Stolberg, of NY Times, or both) feared that the extremity of the Right wing is producing such reaction from the Left that if the Democrats are ever in power to exit, it will be an irresponsible "disowning" of the situation in Iraq, and catastrophe will follow in our wake.

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By Tom Bearse on Sep 14, 2007 3:08 PM EDT

Congratulations on the new rapprochement in blogger relations. It was long overdue. This place is so sanitized, I can almost see myself! 

Al Pacino was nominated for best actor for a long series of wonderful performances, but won only once, for his role as Col. Frank Slade in Scent of a Woman. Those who have seen it know about the character but if you haven’t, Col. Slade is the unwanted relative at most family functions whose life and career took a tragic turn as they were about to reach their pinnacle during the Johnson administration.

Because of this sad twist of faith, he becomes a crass, jaded cynic who doesn’t suffer well-behaved phonies gladly, and who possesses a talent for candor that people with blunted sensibilities find offensive.

In the film’s famous climactic scene, he defends Charlie Simms, a student at Baird, who refuses to snitch on fellow students as a matter of principle, from a vendetta waged by the school’s upright, prissy dean. Here’s a brief excerpt:

Dean Trask: "Please watch your language, Mr. Slade. You are in the Baird school, not a barracks. Mr. Simms, I will give you one final opportunity to speak up."

Col. Slade: "Mr. Simms doesn't want it. He doesn't need to be labeled... ‘still worthy of being a Baird man.’ What the hell is that ? What is your motto here? ‘Boys, inform on your classmates, save your hide; anything short of that, we're gonna burn you at the stake’? Well, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan, some guys run... and some guys stay. Here's Charlie facin' the fire, and there's George... hidin' in big daddy's pocket. And what are you doin’? You're gonna reward George... and destroy Charlie.

Dean Trask: "Are you finished, Mr. Slade?"

Col. Slade: "No, I'm just gettin' warmed up. I don't know who went to this place. William Howard Taft, William Jennings Bryant, William Tell, whoever. Their spirit is dead, if they ever had one. It's gone. You're buildin' a rat ship here, a vessel for seagoin' snitches. And if you think you're preparin' these minnows for manhood, you better think again, because I say you are killin' the very spirit... this institution proclaims it instills. What a sham. What kind of a show are you guys puttin' on here today? I mean, the only class in this act is sittin' next to me. I'm here to tell you this boy's soul is intact. It's non-negotiable."

. . . .

Dean Trask: "Sir, you're out of order."

Col. Slade: "I show you out of order. You don't know what out of order is, Mr. Trask. I'd show you, but I'm too old, I'm too tired, too fuckin' blind. If I were the man I was five years ago, I'd take... a flamethrower to this place! Out of order? Who the hell you think you're talkin' to? I've been around, you know? There was a time I could see. And I have seen. Boys like these, younger than these, their arms torn out, their legs ripped off. But there is nothin' like the sight... of an amputated spirit. There is no prosthetic for that. You think you're merely sendin' this splendid foot soldier... back home to Oregon with his tail between his legs, but I say you are... executin' his soul! And why? Because he's not a Baird man. Baird men. You hurt this boy, you're gonna be Baird bums, the lot of you. And, Harry, Jimmy, Trent, wherever you are out there, fuck you too!"

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 3:15 PM EDT

47. Smetana (48. Nice try!)

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By Michael Ellis on Sep 14, 2007 3:18 PM EDT

Just my luck................80+  days here with no rain..........severe drought.....lakes drying up, water restrictions.........and I left my car windows down................

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 3:18 PM EDT

52. That's how you get it to rain Michael -- did you wash your car too?

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 3:20 PM EDT

46. Linda*in*SFNM

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If you want to stretch the definition of harassment, one can get into some real hair-splitting, but harassment in the form of slander becomes significant when...

The offending blogger gives a description of someone (a political figure or another blogger,) as "FACT," and that "opinion-presented-as-fact" is the complete antithesis of any way that person would describe their own self.

That is either outright slander, or it is insinuating that the person spoken of (blogger or political figure) is totally insidious.

This is not a valid starting point for expressing an honest disagreement. That is picking a fight.

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 3:21 PM EDT

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 3:22 PM EDT

Move On has a new response ad to Bush and his (betrayal) Good for them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGj0Zen3f...

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By Tom Bearse on Sep 14, 2007 3:23 PM EDT

Fred wrote "welcome back Tom, it is nice to see a friendly face."

W00t!  I knew you'd be happy! 

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 3:23 PM EDT

W00t!  I knew you'd be happy!

Teacly! 

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By seashell on Sep 14, 2007 3:26 PM EDT

Soul murder.  It's what happens to many, far too many children.  The soul-murdering of the bush family children likely goes back many generations. Same for the Cheneys, most critters on the Hill and obviously those rabid fundis. 

Soul-murdered kids either become masochists, bent on destroying themselves, or sadists, bent on destroying others, or both, since you can't really have one w/o the other.  And there are a lot of unhealthy grays in between the two and connected to them.

Case in  point.  The woman at the supermarket who said she doesn't hate gays but is against gay marriage.  That's a form of hate and it's sadistic...trying to prevent the happiness of others.

Me calling bush *putz* is a form of hate, but at least I recognize it.  Perhaps I should stop calling him that. 

 

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By Tom Bearse on Sep 14, 2007 3:28 PM EDT

Sitka wrote "Teacly!"

The word is treacly, but you deserve points for risking failure by trying. 

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By Indy Steve on Sep 14, 2007 3:28 PM EDT

ACTIONS THIS WEEK AROUND THE COUNTRY: ORGANIZE ONE!

Sheri, How about a frontpage notice of this!! Thanks.

http://declarationofpeace.org/

 
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By seashell on Sep 14, 2007 3:31 PM EDT

Headlines we'd like to see:  Bush goes to The Hague.

Civilian Death Toll in Iraq May Top One Million
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091407E.shtml
Tina Susman reports for The Los Angeles Times, "A car bomb blew up in the capital's Shiite Muslim neighborhood of Sadr City on Thursday, killing at least four people, as a new survey suggested that the civilian death toll from the war could be more than 1 million."

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By seashell on Sep 14, 2007 3:32 PM EDT

Two of our favorites guys speak out.


Keith Olbermann | The Promotion of Failure in the Bush Administration
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091407A.shtml
Keith Olbermann, on "MSNBC Countdown": "Iraq, of course, had nothing to do with 9/11. Then. Six years later, that has changed."

Paul Krugman | A Surge, and Then a Stab
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091407B.shtml
Paul Krugman writes for The New York Times, "To understand what's really happening in Iraq, follow the oil money, which already knows that the surge has failed."

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 3:33 PM EDT


Al Hunt of Bloomberg news says that Democrats' problem is the extremity of the core
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I'm not surprised that one who cheerled as the DLC drove the Democratic Party into a ditch would say that. What do Carville and Begala say?

Something like "Obama proposed a 13-14 month exit which is about as fast as you can go, and he was very badly hammered and criticized by the blogs, and the core of the Left"

"Something like"? FRED should put quotation marks only around people's actual words. And I don't accept at face value Hunt's version of events anyway  -- if he indeed said that. 

it will be an irresponsible "disowning" of the situation in Iraq, and catastrophe will follow in our wake.

Just more NeoStayTheCourse-ism. Owning the Iraq Disaster is the irresponsible catastrophe that's happening now -- and is unfortunately being perpetuated by some who should know better, at least by now. 

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 3:35 PM EDT

The word is treacly, but you deserve points for risking failure by trying

Thanks. I must have been repeating  a typo from way back. 

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 3:35 PM EDT

1. Our love bugs have arrived in N FL. We hate em in the Spring b/c it means the beginning of our unbearable weather. But in Fall, it means we will have weather the rest of the country will envy (unless there's a hurricane of course) till the Spring love bugs (usually mid May.)

2. Don't forget the special on the FDR presidential library/archive tonight at 8 on CSPAN. I learned some stuff about Hoover last week.

3. Here's Arthur Frommer's blog rant on his daughter Pauline's appearance on O'Reilly -- I think it's safe to consider Mr. Frommer one of us. It's the 3rd entry for Sept 14th.

Wednesday evening's television exchange between my daughter and Bill O'Reilly exposes the confusion of the anti-Amtrak position

http://www.frommers.com/blog/

4. Seashell and Judy thx for informative posts on the overnight.

5. IMO Posts 8. and 30. are what my Mom would have called 'personal remarks.'
(I can't stay out of the bar fight :~))



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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 3:36 PM EDT

It's almost funny that the party of business has forgotten about throwing good money after bad.

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By Deaniac in GA on Sep 14, 2007 3:38 PM EDT

Anyone here (lurking) from HEP?

It seems that since one can't take what one dishes, some may have to just let them wallow in their cut-and-paste alter-huggin' world without mirrors.

Are the rest welcome in the soothing meadow(tho i'll miss hearing the propoganda before the evening news comes on)?

It simply breaks my heart that i can't give a hoot about sniveling just because an idea is challenged. It reaks of those free-speach zones, that are only needed because the truth hurts so.

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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 3:46 PM EDT

I too was planning a nature report.  Instead of the dozens of gold finches we have dozens of monarch butterflies.  They are feating on the purple clover that has sprung up after the last haying.

Lots of meadow flowers, you know, are pretty well adapted to being mowed.   

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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 3:46 PM EDT

I too was planning a nature report.  Instead of the dozens of gold finches we have dozens of monarch butterflies.  They are feating on the purple clover that has sprung up after the last haying.

Lots of meadow flowers, you know, are pretty well adapted to being mowed.   

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 3:46 PM EDT

And now that I'm in it (the bar fight) I don't think rdorgan posts about Obama any more than Linda about Gore or even Monica about Dodd. Maybe it depends on who you're leaning toward. And I am glad to have all of the posts b/c they educate me on the candidates positions.

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 3:46 PM EDT

And now that I'm in it (the bar fight) I don't think rdorgan posts about Obama any more than Linda about Gore or even Monica about Dodd. Maybe it depends on who you're leaning toward. And I am glad to have all of the posts b/c they educate me on the candidates positions.

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By Annilow on Sep 14, 2007 3:47 PM EDT

72., 71. Sorry for doubles.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 3:52 PM EDT

And now that I'm in it (the bar fight) I don't think rdorgan posts about Obama any more than Linda about Gore or even Monica about Dodd.

It's a matter of volume. There are entire swaths of threads that are inconsiderately obamaspammed.

I won't even go into the sheer foolishness of trying to cram a candidate down the throats of others. If one mind has been changed by any of it I'd like to hear it.  It's just self indulgence at the expense of others.

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By Jo*in*Vermont on Sep 14, 2007 3:55 PM EDT

omg, gag me! farewell to Gonzo on cspan right now - lyin and butt lickin all around.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 3:56 PM EDT

Al Hunt of Bloomberg news says that Democrats' problem is the extremity of the core.

I just noticed something -- how can the "core" -- which after all means "center" -- be "extreme"? It is obviously those not of the liberal core who are on the extremity of the Democratic Party.

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 4:01 PM EDT

64. Sitka

"Something like"? FRED should put quotation marks only around people's actual words.

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Difficult to get direct quotes, off the TV, at least I explained that it was not a direct quote.

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By Phil Specht on Sep 14, 2007 4:01 PM EDT

Monica

Clovers are a meadow flower. Wish your friends a safe journey. Our science teacher here has trees they spend nights resting in and they better hughtail it south cause it going to freeze here tonight.

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By FRED from OR on Sep 14, 2007 4:03 PM EDT

If is ain't spam, it ain't the ham. Or is hamming that calls it spamming? Good question. Any takers?

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By Phil Specht on Sep 14, 2007 4:03 PM EDT

Al Hunt at least gets it that the "leaders" are out of step with the organization.

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By Sheri Divers on Sep 14, 2007 4:06 PM EDT

Seashell,

I'll pass your suggestions on to Tim Watson. He's the new Luigi.

Sheri

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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 4:18 PM EDT

I too was planning a nature report.  Instead of the dozens of gold finches we have dozens of monarch butterflies.  They are feating on the purple clover that has sprung up after the last haying.

Lots of meadow flowers, you know, are pretty well adapted to being mowed.   

Blog is sticky. 

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By Phil Specht on Sep 14, 2007 4:20 PM EDT

The truth is that we launched a pre-emptive and needless war that had nothing to do with those that attacked us and have given the most extreme of them recruitment tools.

I once scouted a general area for a deer hunt that was a new bean field dotted with bulldozed up brush and climbed up into one just as it started to get light (the handiest one). I had been sitting stll there for maybe twenty minutes (giving my scent time to penetrate the tangle ten feet below me) when the growling commenced. Then I heard the whining pups. A wild dog family. Now I could have been a steadfastwarleader since I had a 12 guage and slugs and just sat there til the attack, I could have done a surge and started digging around even.. Instead I thought it prudent to yield the space, and I did it with my weapon ready, as soon as it was fully light The wait took a few nerves as the growling had continued but I was up on trwisted trees and I wanted to wait until daylight so I would keep my footing. Of course I could have said to myself I'm in Korea and still be there.. 

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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 4:25 PM EDT

Sorry about the repeat, but the blog wouldn't post.

I wanted to mention that meadow flowers, when they get mowed, 

just grow back and flower at a lower heighth.  I know that because

the spouse keeps a path mowed down through the field and the

path flowers just like the rest of the field, only lower.

And that's the case after YEARS of mowing the same place.

 

Oh, and BTW, I'm only bringing forward Dodd stuff because he's not

getting any coverage.  I used to bring Kucinich stuff but, frankly,

he doesn't have any organizational/managerial skills.   

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By mary vb on Sep 14, 2007 4:28 PM EDT

Al Hunt's wife is Judy Woodruff. She isn't as vile as Mary Matalin but she's vile enough! She gloated over Kerry last time around and had that defensive body language and tough talk when she came to interviewing or speaking about Howard. Boy, I'd like to throw most of the pundits out!

Hope everyone is having a great day despite what a shambles our country is in.

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By audrey.nc on Sep 14, 2007 4:30 PM EDT


Sheri....Everyone....

An alert for action next week. Laura Flanders, sitting in for Thom Harmann suggested contacting Cong. David Obey to "lockup" the appropriation bill of some hundred and forty billion in the Appropriations Comm. and not let it out for a vote. She said others of his supporters were urging him to do that.

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By Monica Smith on Sep 14, 2007 4:30 PM EDT

Need to change to Firefox but that got crashed by a comcast sponsored site.  Seems to me that all my correspondents who have contracted for their intenet through comcast cable have "issues"  That is, unless I close the mail page in the browser, something in their messages starts using a lot of CPUs and my lap-top cooling fan goes wild.

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By Phil Specht on Sep 14, 2007 4:31 PM EDT

Hope everyone is having a great day despite what a shambles our country is in.

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I enjoy fall. I'll take that as solace.

Al Hunt is another economics reporter who missed the big story about the plunging dollar.

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 4:35 PM EDT

Mary, how are things going?

I remember when Andrea Mitchell started cracking off on Howward after he called for Alan Greenspan to be replaced (her husband, too). She did such a horrible piece, I wrote an email to (I think nbc or msnbc)about the incorrect statesment and why she was doing it and SHE actually responded to me directly. THAT surprised me.

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 4:40 PM EDT

LOL, I just found the email I sent nbc that Andrea Mitchell responded to immediately.

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By Phil Specht on Sep 14, 2007 4:42 PM EDT

I consider Adrea Mitchell to be a reliable source (from a given viewpoint) much like Robert could be relied on to pass along the talking point of the day.

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sadly my blogging time is courtesy of a breakdown

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By Mz*Little on Sep 14, 2007 4:45 PM EDT

THere is a new thread. 

And here is a shameless promotion of my sweet Burt's blog

http://nexilist.com/  

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By Linda on Sep 14, 2007 5:05 PM EDT

funny Phil, it was when they were all loading on Gov Dean after Iowa, to finish the nailing. She reported the "Dean Campaign had connections to Special Interests" because his campaign manager worked with them previously. I wrote back that that is a lie, because an employ does something or did, doesn't make the candidate or his campaign as having that connection.



Howdy Mz*Little

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 5:57 PM EDT

Al Hunt at least gets it that the "leaders" are out of step with the organization.

I took FRED's paraphrase to mean that Hunt was saying the "core" people are out of step with the leaders.

But of course, it could only be the other way around.

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By Sitka on Sep 14, 2007 6:00 PM EDT

 I'm only bringing forward Dodd stuff because he's not getting any coverage.  I used to bring Kucinich stuff but, frankly,he doesn't have any organizational/managerial skills.

Most people understand the difference between sharing and shilling. 

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