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Local Action for Global Change: IA & NH Call for Real Global Solutions and a Clean Energy Economy

Written by: Ilya Sheyman on Aug 7, 2007 8:09 AM EDT

(The following is a guest post from The ReEnergize NH and IA Organizing Team)

Concord, New Hampshire and Des Moines, Iowa boomed Sunday afternoon with the sound of masses of citizens rallying for a clean energy economy and real global warming solutions.

The rallies were the highlight event of a summer-long effort to engage citizens in NH and IA about the economic opportunities that bold, visionary action to fight global warming can bring to America.

The students from the Sierra Student Coalition that organized the campaign, along with the Sierra Club and United Steelworkers, collected thousands of petition signatures asking our leaders to act now to reduce emissions 80 percent by 2050, or two percent a year starting right now, and create two million new, good-paying jobs for Americans.

The New Hampshire rally featured noted author and activist Bill McKibben; Jared Duval, national director of the Sierra Student Coalition and a Lebanon, NH native; and Lisa Beaudoin, a farmer from Temple, NH who marched with her two sons Rowan, 8 and Forrest, 11. The Iowa rally featured Dr. James Hansen, an Iowa native and one of the world's preeminent climate scientists; Frank Cownie, Mayor of Des Moines; David Foster, Executive Director of the Blue-Green Alliance; and other notable climate advocates

"I've come on this march because I want to share my values with my children by showing them how to be good stewards of the earth and humanity," said Lisa Beaudoin a farmer from Temple, New Hampshire who addressed the crowd at the NH rally after marching with her sons Rowan, 8, and Forrest, 11.

"We were out here marching because we see this not only as the challenge of our generation, but also as an opportunity," said Zo Tobi, 22, an organizer of the New Hampshire march and rally, "by curbing global warming, we can transform our economy and our country to promote renewable and efficient technologies that will create new, safe jobs for Americans and secure our country and our future."

"We're in a unique position because public officials at every level are listening to what have to say," said Holly Jones, a Drake University student and native of Mount Pleasant, IA. "We need to make the most of this attention by letting our leaders know that we want action on global warming now."

The organizers collaborated with individuals, businesses, churches, and organizations from all parts of the state, walks of life, and political persuasions. In New Hampshire, they collected endorsements including Mayors Bernie Streeter and Frank Guinta from Nashua and Manchester respectively; the Nashua Pride Baseball Team; the NH Timberland Owners Association; NH Faithful Democracy; and Democracy for NH. In Iowa, endorsements included the Iowa Environmental Council; the Iowa Citizen Action Network; the Iowa Farmers Union; and the Iowa Conference of the United Methodist Church.

"Growing up here in New Hampshire, our tradition of leading the nation has always shaped my sense of what is possible," said Jared Duval, National Director of the Sierra Student Coalition and a speaker at Sunday's NH rally. "We must continue building what is on showcase this week – a citizen's movement so powerful and focused that our leaders at all levels have no choice but to heed our call."

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By Tom Bearse on Aug 8, 2007 1:10 PM EDT

I declare Dean first.

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By linda b on Aug 8, 2007 1:19 PM EDT

Tom, it is "I do declare". As in Gone With the Wind.

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By Tom Bearse on Aug 8, 2007 1:24 PM EDT

I do declare this the Summer of Howard.

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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 1:25 PM EDT

Excellent work on Awareness for Action on Global WArming.

Have you asked your Senator to Support S 309, the Sanders/Boxer Global Warming Bill? Which is the Bill that has been calling for the 80 percent reduction since January 07? Senators Biden, Clinton and Obama finally signed on in May, but that still is only 19 total.

Recommendations are that we need to cut it by 90 percent, but even at 80 percent, Congress is not acting.

Put the pressure on!


Time for a COOL change
Gore
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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 1:28 PM EDT

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Gee, I dunno Fred......I think this lady has had a number of years in the foreign service or her husband has and they seem to have a wide appreciation for the European way of looking at things...............Ive studied her posts for a couple of years now and she is correct especially with regards to the ME.............your Biden was rather umimpressive last night as you may have gathered............


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If she said what she says with more analysis, explanation and less hubris concerning her great knowledge and "know-it-all" remarks, I would be more respectful. She may not be a bad person, with good intentions, but like the wizard of Oz said. "I am really a very good person, just a very bad wizard."

As for crudentials, there are people with such knowledge on both sides of the fence. There are a variety of opinion among journalists, and academics and Iraqis, IN IRAQ "on the ground," many of whom support federalization. The federalization plan has supporter on both side of the aisle, maybe why some ideologue among us cannot accept it, in spite of the fact that there is hope it may end the sectarian bloodshed.

I have watched the opposition to this plan develop and those who badmouth it always distort the facts and use political code words to describe it, which have nothing to do with what it is.

Biden's run for presidency has little to do with my support for this plan, a solution of the kind of which I have personally supported since 2004.

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By * rdorgan on Aug 8, 2007 1:31 PM EDT

Summer of Howard....

...and of Love.

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By * rdorgan on Aug 8, 2007 1:32 PM EDT

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I see that MA's Kennedy is on board as a sponsor (possibly MA's Kerry waiting for the vote ?).

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By linda b on Aug 8, 2007 2:03 PM EDT
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By linda b on Aug 8, 2007 2:04 PM EDT
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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 2:04 PM EDT

yes, it appears Senator Kerry hasn't (surprisingly ) signed on yet. But Senator Dodd was one of the very first!

S.309
Title: A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Sanders, Bernard [VT] (introduced 1/16/2007) Cosponsors (19)
Latest Major Action: 1/16/2007 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Environment and Public Works.
COSPONSORS(19), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)


Sen Akaka, Daniel K. [HI] - 1/16/2007
Sen Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [DE] - 5/8/2007
Sen Boxer, Barbara [CA] - 1/16/2007
Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD] - 5/8/2007
Sen Casey, Robert P., Jr. [PA] - 7/19/2007
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham [NY] - 5/3/2007
Sen Dodd, Christopher J. [CT] - 1/30/2007
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 5/9/2007
Sen Feingold, Russell D. [WI] - 1/16/2007
Sen Inouye, Daniel K. [HI] - 1/16/2007
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] - 1/16/2007
Sen Klobuchar, Amy [MN] - 7/12/2007
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] - 1/16/2007
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] - 1/16/2007
Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ] - 1/16/2007
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. [MD] - 5/7/2007
Sen Obama, Barack [IL] - 5/3/2007
Sen Reed, Jack [RI] - 1/16/2007
Sen Whitehouse, Sheldon [RI] - 1/16/2007

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By linda b on Aug 8, 2007 2:07 PM EDT

sorry about the trouble posting, this will work.

watch it, good one with my friend jason alexander. met him at TBA.

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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 2:07 PM EDT

linda b, are you telling us something? :)

Great video's you shared on other thread. What a pill she is. Great big ordeal she had to make at that podium. I forwarded to Cinci as they are working on the Iraq Summer campaign, too.

Be well while you're working those buns off!


later folks.

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By linda b on Aug 8, 2007 2:20 PM EDT

Linda in NM, I will be interviewing the young man who was in the thelma drake video tomorrow at the opening of john miller's campaign office. He is an Iraq war veteran.

I will put it together and get sheri to put it up this week.

the video with jason is telling. they must have pix of those congress critters with sheep.

I don't know if you saw the daily show from last nite but it has on there about that state leg. in florida who propositioned the policeman . it is so funny.

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/index.jhtml

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By Monica Smith on Aug 8, 2007 2:25 PM EDT
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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 2:30 PM EDT

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your Biden was rather umimpressive last night as you may have gathered............

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Been busy with other things these day, but took a look at some clips just now on the Biden web site of the AFL-CIO forum and he looked better than ever, makes me think he can win. Incidently please no mental-case "jokes" the fact that money an rock-star quality has become more important in this race than substance and position on issues is a shame, not so much for our party, but for the entire country.

Last night Biden spoke with more knowledge of facts, intelligence, and passion, than any of the other candidates. Take a look and I think you'll agree.

Among his line:

"China is neither friend nor enemy, but they hold the mortgage on my house..."

"We fund to make things better..."

Those who oppose Biden on this blog make silly jokes and frivolously refer to one or two of his unpopular votes in order to demonize him, a red-herring and it stinks.

If you want to judge people by going into the past, Byrd was the most outspoken in the Senate against the Iraq invasion, and he was once in the KKK, if I'm not mistaken.

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By Michael Ellis on Aug 8, 2007 2:41 PM EDT

 Wanted to say Michael Ellis #13 that AARP is a scam.

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By Annilow on Aug 8, 2007 2:51 PM EDT

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I don't know if you saw the daily show from last nite but it has on there about that state leg. in florida who propositioned the policeman . it is so funny.

That was really funny. Talk about top excuses of the century. Is it my imagination or are all the sex deviates Repugs?

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There's plenty wrong with AARP. However (Libra rising here) BC/BS would not insure me and AARP did -- they are the only insurance I could get unless of course I wanted to go out and get a real job w/ benefits.

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By former on Aug 8, 2007 2:56 PM EDT

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Last night Biden spoke with more knowledge of facts, intelligence, and passion, than any of the other candidates. Take a look and I think you'll agree.

Among his line:

"China is neither friend nor enemy, but they hold the mortgage on my house..."
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Biden becomes "progressive"...slowly but surely.
At least China now is not an enemy..., that's a huge progress..., lol,

Although since they still "hold the mortgage on my house..." it's better at the same time not to call them "friends"..., so they are somehow in between...
Smart, wise guy...to sit on both chairs simultaneously on ANY OTHER ISSUE as well and NOT to fall down until now,...yet.

Stunning ability to ridicule himself without even noticing that!

Hang on mister congressman, your face is very familiar to American people, they love their own "profeccionals"..., they already kind of got used to them..., lol.

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By Annilow on Aug 8, 2007 2:57 PM EDT

I just watched the debate from last night -- Keith was outstanding. I was impressed with Hill's emphasis on greening being a source of jobs. I liked Obama's answer to the Barry Bonds question -- yes it was evasive, but he thought on his feet and charmingly. Chris Dodd has this quiet, common sense way about him- he would probably be a good president. I liked what Biden said about the 'fact' that there was a law that said we would go into Pakistan with 'actionable intelligence' bc it supported Obama. They all seem like nice people. When Howard ran, the whole field seemed more contentious and tense. In this group, I don't think there is a bad one really. I'm not responsible for anything I say today - new antibiotic giving me an out of body experience. Have you guys seen the spoof of Yearly Kos on Colbert/Stewart? It's posted on DKos. Pretty funny. Calls us 'neo-netzies' why didn't I think of that. Said bloggers are people with a laptop, an ax to grind, and their virginity intact. -- lol

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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 3:08 PM EDT

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Biden becomes "progressive"...slowly but surely.

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Nice pun, but that is his greatest strength. He is liberal and progressive and yet moderate republican respect him, and he knows how to convince them without insulting them. Not to mention the fact that he would never veto bills of core concerns.

He could get things done that Obama and Hillary could not get done. They just invite red meat, ridicule, and reaction from the other side, moderate or not.

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By Annilow on Aug 8, 2007 3:12 PM EDT

I also watched Tony Snow's press conference. Looked like few press showed up but maybe that's normal. Guess W is hosting Sarkozy and Ms. at Dad's (ala Putin). Guess he can't be trusted to meet with a head of state by himself.

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By former on Aug 8, 2007 3:23 PM EDT

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Biden becomes "progressive"...slowly but surely.

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Nice pun, but that is his greatest strength....
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Sure, he'd better to repeat his line about China to...Lou Doobs...dayli, may be he too become "progressive" overtime..., lol.



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By Monica Smith on Aug 8, 2007 3:25 PM EDT

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He's in Kennebunkport for another wedding.  The local peacenicks are planning a visibility.  He wasn't scheduled to be here until the 25th for which a BIG presence is planned.

Sarkozy is vacationing in Wolfeboro.  It's about 50 miles to the Maine coast.  

No, I don't think Bush Two can be trusted to interact one on one. 

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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 3:30 PM EDT



Al Gore For President 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYS9jyubD...


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linda b, good luck on the interview. He sounds like a good young man.

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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 3:39 PM EDT

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Sure, he'd better to repeat his line about China to...Lou Doobs...dayli, may be he too become "progressive" overtime..., lol.

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Biden has been progressive since he started. You have to look at his overall record, not one or two votes. All the candidate have "one or two votes" needed to disqualify them from the "progressive" label, if that is the criteria.

Bloggers here, like all other Americans discriminate against age. Youth and star quality rules, and no one is immune to that groupthink. Not even you. That is the real issue. Nobody looks at his entire voting record or how he is rated by groups. They just "cherry pick" a vote or two, to label him something he is not.






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By linda b on Aug 8, 2007 3:47 PM EDT

bush is on another vacation while our troops die.

putz, and u can quote me on that. or wiretap my phone why don't ya.

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By former on Aug 8, 2007 3:55 PM EDT

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Bloggers here, like all other Americans discriminate against age. Youth and star quality rules, and no one is immune to that groupthink. Not even you. That is the real issue...
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I remember times when you, Fred, did not like "gross generalizations"..., curious what's changed?

As for me to "discriminate against age"..., I don't discriminate against Gravel..., lol.


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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 4:04 PM EDT

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I remember times when you, Fred, did not like "gross generalizations"..., curious what's changed?

As for me to "discriminate against age"..., I don't discriminate against Gravel..., lol.

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That is exactly the point you are missing. It is gross generalizations of others here that I am criticizing, how people make gross generalizations about Biden. Just because I bring up the subject, doesn't mean I indulge in it.

On the other hand, you are skillfully changing the subject. It is not about what I like or don't like. Please address the issue I raised without attacking the messenger, another common blog tactic here, when people don't have an intelligent response.

I did not attack you. I simply said you not immune to groupthink, as none of us are.





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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 4:14 PM EDT

bbl

Biden has star quality because he is great on criticism but when he offers solutions, if ever, they are really impossible to implement political, but he appeals to those who like to hear what they think about all the negativity in the world.

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By FRED from OR on Aug 8, 2007 4:19 PM EDT

correction - I meant to say Gravel - not Biden

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 4:22 PM EDT

Powerful Earthquake Hits Indonesia
By ROBIN McDOWELL,AP
Posted: 2007-08-08 15:16:50
JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) - A powerful earthquake under the Java Sea rattled Indonesia's capital early Thursday, violently shaking tall buildings and sending panicked residents into the streets.

There were no immediate reports of damage, and geophysicists said there was little risk of a tsunami.

The quake, which struck at 12:04 a.m. (1:04 p.m. EDT Wednesday) had a preliminary magnitude of 7.5 and was centered about 65 miles east of Jakarta at a depth in the Earth of 180 miles, the U.S. Geological Survey said.

Residents said tall buildings and single story homes shook violently in the city of 9 million people, and water sloshed from swimming pools.

Many people were awakened by the quake and some people screamed "Allah akbar!" or "God is great!" as they ran outside.


http://news.aol.com/story/_a/powerful-ea...

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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 4:26 PM EDT

Pollution fears cloud Olympic gala

Crowds of 10,000 gathered at Beijing's vast Tiananmen Square
Pollution in Chinese capital could cause some competitions to be moved




BEIJING, China (Reuters) -- A proud China invited the world to the 2008 Beijing Olympics with a dazzling song-and-dance and fireworks display, but cheers and shouts of 10,000 beaming citizens could not mask fears about pollution.

Countdown celebrations are held Wednesday at the Millennium Monument in Beijing.

The crowds gathered on the vast Tiananmen Square, overlooked by a giant portrait of Mao Zedong, the founder of Communist China, in front of a brightly lit Gate of Heavenly Peace, exactly a year before the Games begin.

Police, some with sniffer dogs, had to force back the hundreds who milled around the edges hoping to get a glance of the festivities, watched by Chinese leaders and International Olympic Committee president Jacques Rogge.

The most intensely scrutinized preparations for any Games in Olympic history has brought forth a barrage of criticism for China this week on issues such as human rights, press freedom, pollution, food safety and Tibet.

"We welcome athletes, coaches, officials, spectators and journalists to participate in, observe and report the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games," parliament chief Wu Bangguo told the crowd.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/08...

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By former on Aug 8, 2007 4:26 PM EDT

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On the other hand, you are skillfully changing the subject. It is not about what I like or don't like. Please address the issue I raised without attacking the messenger, another common blog tactic here, when people don't have an intelligent response.

I did not attack you. I simply said you not immune to groupthink, as none of us are.
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Uuuuu....hhhh, you are in fighting mood...and I...don't.

That's was nice Fred to skillfully address the issue by attacking the messenger since I'm (as anyone else indeed) not immune to groupthink, therefore I'll raise another common blog tactic here and tell you INTELLIGENTLY(!!!) that all of these not about what I like or don't like but about none of us here.

bbl.

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 4:35 PM EDT

... didn't actually get the Howardly the other night, i guess because i was critical of Dem groups that fund the already WELL funded - leaving progressive candidates that could win with as mere $50,000 or so dangling in the wind.

Soooo, just to show that hicks have some of whut it takes...

What i actually was at the Town hall meeting to propose to our wingnut Congressman (one Nathan Deal(R- GA 9th) was that he work with Congressman Henry Waxman to stop Chinese products coming in to poison us, our children and our pets.

Amazingly, even tho i pointed out that with all the sellout trade agreements it'd be tough, he agreed and promised to vote for Waxman's proposals on that.

The previous posting i did on the meeting was my responses to his being way way hard on the Dems. My return fire was 'whithering', and justifiably so. But i wasn't there to be partisan, told him so, but pointed out that that was all he had for us. It isn't right that i pay him then he comes to my town to bash my political friends.

This issue, i said, should be non-partisan, that all our important issues should be, and he needed to lose the rightwing slash and burn tactics.
(all this in front of a 90% R crowd... lol)


THEN THIS from today;


Suspect Seafood From China Not Screened
By JUSTIN PRITCHARD and ADAM GOLDMAN,AP
Posted: 2007-08-08 13:30:35
Filed Under: Health News
(Aug. 7) - At least 1 million pounds of suspect Chinese seafood landed on American store shelves and dinner plates despite a Food and Drug Administration order that the shipments first be screened for banned drugs or chemicals, an Associated Press investigation found.


http://news.aol.com/health/story/_a/susp...

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 4:42 PM EDT

The frozen shrimp, catfish and eel arrived at U.S. ports under an "import alert," which meant the FDA was supposed to hold every shipment until it had passed a laboratory test.

(cont. from above AP story)

But that was not what happened, according to an AP check of shipments since last fall. One of every four shipments the AP reviewed got through without being stopped and tested. The seafood, valued at $2.5 million, was equal to the amount 66,000 Americans eat in a year.

FDA officials stuck the pond-raised seafood on their watch list because of worries it contained suspected carcinogens or antibiotics not approved for seafood.

No illnesses have been reported, but the episode raises serious questions about the FDA's ability to police the safety of America's food imports.

"The system is outdated and it doesn't work well. They pretend it does, but it doesn't," said Carl R. Nielsen, who oversaw import inspections at the agency until he left in 2005 to start a consulting firm, FDAImports.com. "You can't make the assumption that these would be isolated instances."

(my note: The chemicals here probably wouldn't have an immediate effect on most people, so no reports of illnes is not a meter of the long term effects. IMHO)

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 4:56 PM EDT

... oh, the earthquake thingy is a personal interest since my house was 2 miles from the poma prieta epicenter back in 1989.

A 7.5 magnitude is a pretty serious shaker. You don't shrug those off.

... i hope the "ring of fire" doesn't affect my good friends in CA anytime soon.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 8, 2007 5:24 PM EDT
New Poll Shows Obama in 3rd place in Iowa…among REPUBLICANS

According to a poll released today by the University of Iowa, Barack Obama finished in third place among a sub-sample of 330 self-identified Republicans. With 6.7 percent, Obama actually beat both John McCain and Fred Thompson.
 
"This poll shows that Barack Obama's message of change is one that appeals to Democrats, Republicans and Independents, and makes it clear that Senator Obama would be the most formidable general election candidate,” said Iowa Communications Director Josh Earnest.
 
This sub-sample included 330 respondents who self-identified as Republicans. The margin of error of the sub-sample is +/- 5.25 percent.
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By Phil Specht on Aug 8, 2007 5:29 PM EDT

cukes, green beans, the tail end of the sweet corn, vine ripe tomatoes, bell peppers, living off the fat of the land  because I just added some fresh cream to the top of some rice pudding and rewarded myself for working out in that beastly heat

eat your heart out (or would that be me?)

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By Tom Bearse on Aug 8, 2007 5:33 PM EDT

Interesting poll. 6.7% of 330 people is 22.11 people.  With the margin of error, however, the results could be off by as many as 17.33 people. 

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By roger rankin on Aug 8, 2007 5:35 PM EDT

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By Michael Ellis on Aug 8, 2007 5:48 PM EDT

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You mean last nights debate?  Hmm, stay off the antibiotics till after the debate next time.........youll get a clearer picture...............cheers

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By Michael Ellis on Aug 8, 2007 6:11 PM EDT

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TEHRAN, Iran - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki met with officials in Iran on Wednesday to seek help in reining in violence in his country, reaching out to a nation the U.S. accuses of fueling Iraq’s turmoil by backing Shiite militants.

It was al-Maliki’s second visit to Tehran in less than a year, coming days after U.S. and Iranian experts held talks in Baghdad on improving Iraq’s security.

Al-Maliki and the Shiite and Kurdish parties that dominate his government are closely linked to predominantly Shiite Iran, and he has struggled to balance those ties with the United States, Tehran’s top rival in the region

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So lets see...........he meets the Iranian leader(the real bad monster youknow)........iranian weapons are killing americans...........iran is going nuclear...................oh what the hell, we ve only lost 3600 troops for nothing basically..............

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By mary vb on Aug 8, 2007 6:34 PM EDT

PLEASE let it be true that Al Gore plans to re-enter politics and may it be for 2008.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 6:40 PM EDT

mary vb, have you heard something?  I've been gone all day.....

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 6:43 PM EDT

Oh my!  My heart is lifted up.

Al Gore says he may re-enter politics August 8, 2007 - 5:50PM

Former US vice president Al Gore said today that he may return to politics in the future but repeated his position that he had no plans to enter the 2008 presidential race.

"I may re-enter politics at some point in the future because I'm only 59 years old," Gore told reporters on the sidelines of a forum in Singapore.

Gore said he has "no plan" to run in the 2008 presidential election but aims to make the environment a focus of public discussion during the campaign.

"There is no single candidate that is putting forward a comprehensive argument about the environment or making climate change a priority," Gore said.

"I will continue to work so that public opinion will push all candidates to make climate a priority."

Gore lost the 2000 US presidential election to George W Bush despite winning the popular vote.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/al-gore-says-he-may-reenter-politics/2007/08/08/1186530438733.html 

 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 6:46 PM EDT

heh heh, the dems have just been put on notice.

"I will continue to work so that public opinion will push all candidates to make climate a priority."

Well, some of them may do that, but will they follow thru.  I think Gore is going to run.... Oh please!  We need straw polls with him included. 

Can we have a Gore bat please?  I want to hit it.  Meanwhile, I'll send money to the support Gore site.   

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 6:50 PM EDT

Doesn't sound to me like he's slamming the door as per his own words above. Damn media!

Associated Press - August 8, 2007 1:43 AM ET

SINGAPORE (AP) - Al Gore seems to be slamming the door on another try for the White House, at least for now.

The former vice president told reporters on the sidelines of a business forum in Singapore that he is young enough to get back into politics but has "no plan" to run in the 2008 presidential election. Gore is 59.

Gore says what he wants to do is get all the candidates talking about climate change. So far, he says, not a single 1 of them is making it a priority.

Gore lost the 2000 presidential election to George Bush despite winning the popular vote.

http://www.kpvi.com/Global/story.asp?S=6901834

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 6:54 PM EDT
OK,let's look at Al calmly.  If he doesn't enter for 08, when he'll be 60, he may have to wait until he's 68 and I think he may feel that that's too old, which it isn't, but an 8 year stint would take him to age 76.  I'm sure he's done the math.
Al, if not  now, WHEN?
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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 6:54 PM EDT

Where is everybody?  Please don't tell me I've been left behind again.

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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 7:07 PM EDT

48.

seashell :-)

Seashell, actually quite the opposite. They are trying to spin it of course.

He said he may reenter politics........WOOOOT!!! The change is coming!!!!!




Gore says he may re-enter politics

August 08 2007 at 03:25PM


Singapore - Former US Vice President Al Gore said Wednesday that he may return to politics in the future but repeated his position that he has no plans to enter the 2008 presidential race.

"I may re-enter politics at some point in the future because I'm only 59 years old," Gore told reporters on the sidelines of a forum in Singapore.

Gore said he has "no plan" to run in the 2008 presidential election but aims to make the environment a focus of public discussion during the campaign.

"There is no single candidate that is putting forward a comprehensive argument about the environment or making climate change a priority," Gore said.

http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 7:07 PM EDT

Last night Keith said something about reporting tonight on his show about who was telling the truth and who wasn't.

Labor - it should go overwhelming for Kucinich who was fabulous last night.  But it prolly won't and will again be left in the dust. 

The debate was good becuz of Keith and he gave everyone equal time...I didn't like Hillary being front and center.  She's always front and center so don't tell me they draw straws.  It's an attempt to manipulate the viewers.  (effing CMWs)

I plan  on being cranky until Gore enters!  LOL 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 7:09 PM EDT

It's a good enuf article to post twice.  LOL

 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 7:12 PM EDT

Good new, sad news


Bill Moyers Journal | Talk of Impeachment Is in the Air
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/080807V.shtml
Bill Moyers Journal is rebroadcasting the show with constitutional scholar Bruce Fein, who wrote the first article of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, and The Nation's John Nichols, author of "The Genius of Impeachment."

Extinct: The Dolphin That Could Not Live Alongside Man
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/080807EA.shtml
Jeremy Laurance, The Independent UK, writes, "After more than 20 million years on the planet, the Yangtze river dolphin is today officially declared extinct, the first species of cetacean to be driven from this planet by human activity."

Coral Reefs Dying Faster Than Expected
http://www.truthout.org/issues_06/080807EB.shtml
The Associated Press reports, "Coral reefs in much of the Pacific Ocean are dying faster than previously thought, according to a study released Wednesday, with the decline driven by climate change, disease and coastal development."

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 7:13 PM EDT

Gosh, I'm lonely!  Still here, Linda?

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 7:14 PM EDT

What's going on with this blog again?

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By mary vb on Aug 8, 2007 7:21 PM EDT

Thanks for posting the article, seashell. I'm multi-tasking right now. Good grief, the home inspection from he!! The fellow who bought our house was a big wig from NSA. Scary that. He moved from Maryland. He actually seems like a nice fellow though.

Go Al!!!

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By mary vb on Aug 8, 2007 7:21 PM EDT

I would love to hear Phil's thoughts on these Gore comments.

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By Linda on Aug 8, 2007 7:25 PM EDT

seashell, sorry, I have a meeting tonight and all the sudden I got sick and I'm hovering over the sink.

gotta' go.

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By Huron John on Aug 8, 2007 7:38 PM EDT

Hierarchical Leadership in America

http://www.counterpunch.org/campbell08082007.html

The premise is that the leadership style of the U.S. president affects and sets the standard for leadership worldwide. If this premise is correct, what does it mean for us here and the world in general?

The current U.S. president obviously prefers a direct, confrontational style of leadership with him as the key decision maker. He neither welcomes nor encourages dissenting views and, indeed, is quick to denigrate and/or punish those with the audacity to question his judgment. It is his way or the highway. Despite its enormous drawbacks, this style is amazingly effective especially when it is unopposed by our codependent Congress and federal judiciary.

 Globally, this style of leadership tends to favor confrontation and win-lose negotiation that favors the leader and their cronies and often leads to violence and war which, here again, favors their cronies (like, say, Haliburton and armament manufacturers) and uses the “little” people for cannon fodder.

As the U.S. government and corporations engage in more or less universal win-lose negotiations with the world, we steadily erode trust with former allies and create enduring animosity among much of the world including the predominantly Muslim Middle East. This does not bode well for future generations here who may still be fighting “terrorists” bred by our heedless aggressiveness towards all “enemies” of U.S. hegemony and greed. As we needlessly throw ourselves on our sword in Iraq for Freedom, democracy, oil Haliburton, etc. (take your pick), we cultivate enemies who will hate us for generations while sharply decreasing our ability to simply defend ourselves at home.

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By Huron John on Aug 8, 2007 7:44 PM EDT

IMPENDING DISASTER

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts08082007.html

Early this morning China let the idiots in Washington, and on Wall Street, know that it has them by the short hairs. Two senior spokesmen for the Chinese government observed that China’s considerable holdings of US dollars and Treasury bonds “contributes a great deal to maintaining the position of the dollar as a reserve currency.”

Should the US proceed with sanctions intended to cause the Chinese currency to appreciate, “the Chinese central bank will be forced to sell dollars, which might lead to a mass depreciation of the dollar.”

Strategic thinkers, if any remain who have not been purged by neocons, will quickly conclude that China’s power over the value of the dollar and US interest rates also gives China power over US foreign policy. The US was able to attack Afghanistan and Iraq only because China provided the largest part of the financing for Bush’s wars.

If China ceased to buy US Treasuries, Bush’s wars would end. The savings rate of US consumers is essentially zero, and several million are afflicted with mortgages that they cannot afford. With Bush’s budget in deficit and with no room in the US consumer’s budget for a tax increase, Bush’s wars can only be financed by foreigners.

No country on earth, except for Israel, supports the Bush regimes’ desire to attack Iran. It is China’s decision whether it calls in the US ambassador, and delivers the message that there will be no attack on Iran or further war unless the US is prepared to buy back $900 billion in US Treasury bonds and other dollar assets.

The US, of course, has no foreign reserves with which to make the purchase. The impact of such a large sale on US interest rates would wreck the US economy and effectively end Bush’s war-making capability. Moreover, other governments would likely follow the Chinese lead, as the main support for the US dollar has been China’s willingness to accumulate them. If the largest holder dumped the dollar, other countries would dump dollars, too.

The value and purchasing power of the US dollar would fall. When hard-pressed Americans went to Wal-Mart to make their purchases, the new prices would make them think they had wandered into Nieman Marcus. Americans would not be able to maintain their current living standard.

Simultaneously, Americans would be hit either with tax increases in order to close a budget deficit that foreigners will no longer finance or with large cuts in income security programs. The only other source of budgetary finance would be for the government to print money to pay its bills. In this event, Americans would experience inflation in addition to higher prices from dollar devaluation.

This is a grim outlook. We got in this position because our leaders are ignorant fools. So are our economists, many of whom are paid shills for some interest group. So are our corporate leaders whose greed gave China power over the US by offshoring the US production of goods and services to China. It was the corporate fat cats who turned US Gross Domestic Product into Chinese imports, and it was the “free trade, free market economists” who egged it on.

How did a people as stupid as Americans get so full of hubris?

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By Pat in Colorado on Aug 8, 2007 7:46 PM EDT

Hi folks,

Friend is reading  State of Denial by Bob Woodward.  Said leader Bush trusts his intuition and will.  He wills things to happen.  Interestingly enough, so did Der Fuhrer.  Hitler willed the 1000 year reich and was willing to see every last German die if it didn't succeed.  Then there was Mao's statement that nuclear war would leave some Chinese because the population was so big and so could be waged.

People who are able to believe in the irrational, who believe they are the deciders are more than dangerous.  They are insane.  Bush thinks he's the decider, when in reality, Cheney and others have manipulated him from the beginning.  He is insane as are they. 

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By Huron John on Aug 8, 2007 7:52 PM EDT

NYT LETTERS ON THE SORRY DEMOCRATS

To their shame, 16 Democrats in the Senate and 41 in the House voted to hand the president monarchical powers that the signers of the Constitution had withheld. The Fourth Amendment has served to safeguard citizens against warrantless searches and seizures; this president says instead: Just trust me.

These Democrats will no doubt be astonished, but Republicans will not stop calling them weak on terrorism. The rest of us just think they’re weak, period.

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In their latest display of spinelessness, Congressional Democrats approved another unjustified and probably unconstitutional expansion of presidential power to snoop into private communications (editorial, Aug. 7).

But the expiration of this policy in six months is not a “saving grace.” If Democrats were afraid to oppose this expansion of power now, they will surely be afraid to oppose its continuation six months from now.

It is infuriating that America continues to support these worse-than-worthless political parties — one hypocritically wrapping itself in the flag and the Bible to practice demagogy, and the other just standing by and making ineffectual bleating noises.

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Once the seed of terrorism is planted it, it’s hard to uproot. Ever since 9/11, President Bush has been able to exploit this weakness in our psyches due in large part to the incompetence and ineptitude of his administration’s foreign policy.

His disastrous decision to invade Iraq unnecessarily and without a plan has, for all intents and purposes, resulted in a terrorist breeding ground there, while his coddling of governments who shield terrorists such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia has made the world safe for them.

By kowtowing to him and rushing to their summer recess, the Democratic Congress has only enabled the president to continue his charade of being a decisive and effective leader on the national security front.

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By Huron John on Aug 8, 2007 7:57 PM EDT

Out now!

Grow some spine and cut the funding.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 8, 2007 8:17 PM EDT

so Gore officially warned the field

get green or get over

what was my date in the Gore pool? does today count? if he carries through I'll claim my teddy bear

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 8:24 PM EDT

Biden's doing very well on Keith IMO. I like him and his statements on campaign financing.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 8:31 PM EDT

If any of the cands start talking green, with the exception of Kucinich, we can assume they're blowing smoke.  Who's gonna hold them to it?  Who held Putz to his "no nation building* promise?

I think Gore's coming in and what he's doing is scaring the hell outta them, as well he should.  He's knows he's got the *power.*

Heh heh heh!

Think the CMWs will relate this story?

I'll write Keithie.

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By Michael Ellis on Aug 8, 2007 9:03 PM EDT

Huron John
Wed, 08/08/07
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The illogic of waste...................I hope this country has learned something since we let repubs run the show.................

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:13 PM EDT
August 8, 2007

Fred Fielding, Esq.
Counsel to the President
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. Fielding:

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Sincerely,

PATRICK LEAHY
Chairman

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BETTENDORF, Iowa — Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney on Wednesday defended his five sons' decision not to enlist in the military, saying they're showing their support for the country by "helping me get elected."

Romney, who did not serve in Vietnam due to his Mormon missionary work and a high draft lottery number

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The good news is that we have a volunteer Army and that's the way we're going to keep it," Romney told some 200 people gathered in an abbey near the Mississippi River that had been converted into a hotel. "My sons are all adults and they've made decisions about their careers and they've chosen not to serve in the military and active duty and I respect their decision in that regard."

He added: "One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I'd be a great president."

Romney's five sons range in age from 37 to 26 and have worked as real estate developers, sports marketers and advertising executives. They are now actively campaigning for their father and have a "Five Brothers" blog on Romney's campaign Web site.

Romney noted that his middle son, 36-year-old Josh, was completing a recreational vehicle tour of all 99 Iowa counties on Wednesday and said, "I respect that and respect all those and the way they serve this great country."

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:20 PM EDT

Hey, I just read that Pakistan is considering setting a state of Emergency in their country.

Does anyone but me think they may pull a turn about and subdue the criminals in their midst, capture the Taliban who attacked America on Sept 11, and hand over to us the criminals who attacked US?

Note:  Terrorist Criminal

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:32 PM EDT

CNN (corporate news network) is reporting repeating the company line from the gates of hell in Utah where the mine traps employees 1,500 feet below ground:

...(don't wait for me to repeat it, for G@d's sake)

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:36 PM EDT
Op-Ed Contributors Why Terrorists Aren’t SoldiersBy WESLEY K. CLARK and KAL RAUSTIALAPublished: August 8, 2007

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/opinion/08clark.html?hp

THE line between soldier and civilian has long been central to the law of war. Today that line is being blurred in the struggle against transnational terrorists. Since 9/11 the Bush administration has sought to categorize members of Al Qaeda and other jihadists as “unlawful combatants” rather than treat them as criminals.

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Cases like this illustrate that in the years since 9/11, the Bush administration’s approach to terrorism has created more problems than it has solved. We need to recognize that terrorists, while dangerous, are more like modern-day pirates than warriors. They ought to be pursued, tried and convicted in the courts. At the extreme, yes, military force may be required. But the terrorists themselves are not “combatants.” They are merely criminals, albeit criminals of an especially heinous type, and that label suggests the appropriate venue for dealing with the threats they pose.

We train our soldiers to respect the line between combatant and civilian. Our political leaders must also respect this distinction, lest we unwittingly endanger the values for which we are fighting, and further compromise our efforts to strengthen our security.

Wesley K. Clark, the former supreme commander of NATO, is a fellow at the Burkle Center for International Relations at the University of California at Los Angeles. Kal Raustiala is a law professor and the director of the Burkle Center.

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By Michael Ellis on Aug 8, 2007 9:38 PM EDT

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Only you Im afraid paine................the vas majority of Pakistanis, afghans, and muslims in general could care less about our worries about OBL......................Musharraf is going down someday soon enough..............then the real worrying should start...........

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By Phil Specht on Aug 8, 2007 9:39 PM EDT

my Biden story for the night 

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I don't subscibe to the New Yorker, but my son picks up the discards at the Public Library and he found a story on Bill Clinton called The Wanderer by David Remnick and found a most interesting quote. p. 55 the Sept. 18 2006.

but what my son exclaimed was "Joe Biden reads the New Yorker" making the assumption that the poem Joe quoted at the training in Peosta was the lines quoted by Bill Clinton to Mandela and Sisulu.

my come back was "are you accusing Joe of plagerism?"

"No he reads the New Yorker and needs material for a speech"

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it might well be the other way around and Biden quotes Seamus Heaney's "The Cure at Troy" all the time and Clinton stole the use of it from him

of coures they both attributed the lines to the author so it is not plagerism

so don't worry Fred

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:42 PM EDT
TimesSelect Today in TimesSelect
Hahahahahaha, finally!A guy told me today that this pay on-line opinions is on the way out.  Good.  The Times lost me and, I'm sure, many others with that gated community of ...increasingly right wing pontificating.
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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:48 PM EDT
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Leave it to you mate (;) to condense the opinion of the criminal east for me.  I (allow you to believe that I) stand corrected.

 

~Musharraf is going down someday soon enough..............then the real worrying should start...........~

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Yes, although I hope we a prepared ahead of time.  In fact, we should take out their nuclear capability and more.   But, that is merely my off the cuff response.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 9:54 PM EDT
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By Zeeshan Haider

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Private Pakistani television channels reported on Wednesday that President Pervez Musharraf was preparing to declare a state of emergency imminently, but government spokesmen denied there were any such plans.

State-run Pakistan Television quoted official sources as saying the reports were baseless and Information Minister Mohammad Ali Durrani denied to Reuters that a meeting had been held to discuss the imposition of an emergency, as rumors swept the country.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSISL16312820070808?feedType=RSS&rpc=22&sp=true 

A member of the inner circle of the Pakistani leadership told Reuters, however, that U.S. ally Musharraf was considering the option, which could allow him to extend the tenure of the national and provincial assemblies by 12 months and delay elections due by the turn of the year

Is this what putz & prick are considering here? 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 9:55 PM EDT

Well, I'm thru for the night trying to link.  I had deleted all the spam before submitting.

I'm so sorry.  Jeez, we need an edit button for clods like me.

 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 9:57 PM EDT

HQ, please delete 78

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 9:57 PM EDT

Haha, what a clod-hopper, Sea )

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By Annilow on Aug 8, 2007 9:58 PM EDT

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Michael Ellis
Wed, 08/08/07
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Hey Michael - I really enjoyed the debate - it was not boring. But I am 'under the influence.'
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Comcast has brought its sleazy self to our neighborhood and since they have (about 6 mos) we lost all the good stations we had with TW and we've had 3 really long outages, one tonight. Since my Internet and TV are both Comcast when they are out I feel very lost. Tonight I watched 3 episodes of Buffy Season 7 from Netflix. Then when it was still out I decided to call them and blow a gusset. And it worked!!!! I got my cable and TV back. Who says losing your temper on poor customer service people is a waste.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:01 PM EDT

Private Pakistani television channels reported on Wednesday that President Pervez Musharraf was preparing to declare a state of emergency imminently, but government spokesmen denied there were any such plans.

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those PRIVATE PAKISTANI TELEVISION CHANNELS are like FOX

IE  owned and operated by loyal Bushies.

But you all can kowtow you intelligence if it is your will.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:04 PM EDT

Whatsa matter, paine darlin'?  'Fraid to post a link?  LOL

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:05 PM EDT

clod-hopper s/b clodhopper

hehe

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:06 PM EDT

This won't spam!

GERMANY, THE RE-ENGINEERED ALLY
PART 2: Everything is broken
Forces that oppose or even appear to question American interests face a simple choice: "The US or chaos." Not only the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan, but the failed attempts of Serbia, Iran and Syria to bow to US/Western demands make it clear that it is next to impossible to choose and still maintain a measure of independence and dignity. Germany, however, has chosen the former.
This is the second part of a three-part essay by "Axel Brot". (Aug 8, '07)

 Part 1: Readiness for endless war

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:07 PM EDT
GERMANY, THE RE-ENGINEERED ALLY
PART 2: Everything is broken
Forces that oppose or even appear to question American interests face a simple choice: "The US or chaos." Not only the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan, but the failed attempts of Serbia, Iran and Syria to bow to US/Western demands make it clear that it is next to impossible to choose and still maintain a measure of independence and dignity. Germany, however, has chosen the former.
This is the second part of a three-part essay by "Axel Brot". (Aug 8, '07)

 Part 1: Readiness for endless war
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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:07 PM EDT

Is it Firefox that does the gray or this blog or my computer?

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:09 PM EDT

"No End In Sight" TrailerAn Inside Look At The U.S. Errors In The Iraq War. Opens 8/10

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:09 PM EDT

'Fraid to post a link?  LOL  

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Well, sweet darlin' Sea, I ain'a likely to make the error which you have repeatedly made.

Now, don't misunderstand me:   it don't matter too much - these errors

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By Phil Specht on Aug 8, 2007 10:11 PM EDT

If Pakistan took on the lawless region they would need a state of emergency.

did Obama unleash an avalanche? 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:13 PM EDT
 As expected the July 16 th summit was a humiliating travesty that did not go beyond the exact Israeli plans, which revolved around the continuation of the cruel oppressive Israeli occupation. Using the terminology of a” summit” is another parody that flagrantly unveils Israel adamant greedy plans to swallow whatever remained of the W. Bank. To fool the world, Olmert offered to release some non-Hamas prisoners and some money owed to the Palestinians, in a step that would increase the rift between Hamas and Fatah, while ignoring totally the major issues that deals with the crux of the problem, namely those issues that deal with the national aspirations of the oppressed Palestinians.

 There is no doubt that the items that were discussed centered on Israeli un-ending demands for security, which could have been discussed by the security chiefs of both parties. To weaken Abbas further, Olmert rejected the Palestinian demands of stopping Israeli cruel assaults on Palestinian territories. To help Abbas keep his hopes for the future, Olmert “promised” to meet again in the unspecified future to discuss the implementation of the Oslo accords, or the “Road Maps”. Even such a promise was conditional on Israeli assessment of Palestinian’s future adherence to these plans and accords. The irony here, of course, that Israel has violated flagrantly all the previous accords including Oslo and the Road Maps. Let us not forget here that both accords are subject to Israeli misinterpretations with their infamous 14 reservation on these accords. No need to mention here that removing the apartheid wall “that swallowed another 40% of the West Bank”, dismantling the settlements in the West Bank, Jerusalem, the 1967 borders and the right of return are all considered red lines that would never enter Israeli future agenda for peace. Oslo and the Road Map which were supposed to lead to UN Resolution 242 have been severely removed from Israeli future peace because both have been flagrantly violated on the ground that would make both accords null and void. To close the final circle on future Palestinian hopes, resistance to the occupation has been banned with the cooperation of the PA, which collected the arms of the resistance groups, and thus the Palestinians were brought back to square one in reminiscence of the 1947-1948 Nakba."

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http://www.ptimes.org/main/default.aspx?xyz=BOgLkxlDHteZpYqykRlUuI1kx%2fVDUOFoTe6iaisxqwiM%2fVyYtHQAlSjWP%2fo%2fIGnH6ASXIXenMbw%2frScjfbb1OLJW0yY7kENl1f0VfFgUm492T1KTx163bpGXdT2WEh7ujsF1hzfbtUI%3d 

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By Phil Specht on Aug 8, 2007 10:15 PM EDT

your errors are part of the ambiance here seashell, your links cast a wide net and just often enough you make a catch that it is well worth the occasional hassle

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:18 PM EDT

92 was a post from an article.  My screen is doing funny things and I assure you, I'm not on drugs or drinking. 

Perhaps a break is in order.  :-)  The Israeli gov't is as ...you fill in the word....as ours.  The suffering brought on by Olmert and Putz is certainly punishable in The Hague. 

 

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:20 PM EDT

did Obama unleash an avalanche? 

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G@d willing. inshala.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:20 PM EDT

Phil, you mean I'm not catching 100% of the time?  LOL

 

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:22 PM EDT

Perhaps a break is in order.  :-) 

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how 'bout a few deep breaths. try reverse breathing to bring the Qi up.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:26 PM EDT
A Weak Dollar and the Fed

How did the Fed lose room to maneuver? The answer is rooted in the Bush administration’s misguided economic policies.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:27 PM EDT

My screen is doing funny things and I assure you, I'm not on drugs or drinking

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so, your CPU is on acid?

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:27 PM EDT

 test

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:28 PM EDT

test

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:28 PM EDT

WTF is going on?

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:28 PM EDT

WFT is going on?  Is my puter being hacked?

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:31 PM EDT

I'm afraid to post for fear I'll bust the blog.

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:32 PM EDT

Sea

"You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone."

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:34 PM EDT
Living in the Weimar Republic of America Submitted by mark karlin on Wed, 08/08/2007 - 11:38am. Editorials

A BUZZFLASH EDITORIAL

It's become a bit of a cliché to compare the rise of Cheney-Bush fascism to the ascendancy of the Third Reich, but the analogy does reveal a fundamental truth about power and politics.

Fascists or Bolsheviks (just look at the short-lived Alexander Kerensky republic in Russia that fell to the Soviets in 1917) proceed on a premise that liberals are ambivalent about asserting power -- and take full advantage of that weakness.

Bush may be a tin horn cowboy propped up by Rove and Cheney, but almost all of his power at this time is derived by the unprecedented unitary authority granted to him by a Democratic Congress. In short, an utterly failed president guilty of illegal activity, whose poll numbers are in the dust, is able to make enough Democrats fearful that they give him power when they should be aggressively taking it away from him.

In the narrative of "toughness" that Rove has created for Bush -- and that Cheney has backed up with Franco-like substance -- Bush emerges as a "strong" figure, ironically, only because the timid Democratic leadership is so weak.

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorials/153 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:34 PM EDT

OK, now I'm getting pissed cuz I think I'm being monitored by some scumbags from the gov't.

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 10:37 PM EDT

Phil Specht
Wed, 08/08/07
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i don't think so, Phil. The Pakistani are pretty good but the old mujahdeen and the new jihadist youngsters have convinced the regular Army of their lethality.

i could be wrong but i think the support for both sides has been there for a while, but the wild cards will pore in from areas that no military force has yet proven they can control.

Musharraf has probably just learned from the boyking that blowing off the rules at home kicks the can down the road.

... but when the road comes to an end?

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:37 PM EDT
109.


seashell :-)

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If they are from the government, then they are not scumbags.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:37 PM EDT

Good grief.  How many times do I have to say that Xtianity needs to go the way of the Edsel?

Pentagon promotes militant Christianity to US troops in Iraq by Weldon Berger | Aug 8 2007 - 5:12pm |  permalink
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What could possibly go wrong with a scheme to introduce tens of thousands of young, stressed out soldiers fighting a guerrilla war in a Muslim country to a particularly bloody-minded brand of aggressively evangelical apocalyptic Christianity? As Max Blumenthal reports in The Nation, the Pentagon is on a quest — one might say a crusade — to find out.

As an official arm of the Defense Department's America Supports You program, [Operation Straight Up] plans to mail copies of the controversial apocalyptic video game, Left Behind: Eternal Forces to soldiers serving in Iraq. OSU is also scheduled to embark on a "Military Crusade in Iraq" in the near future. "We feel the forces of heaven have encouraged us to perform multiple crusades that will sweep through this war torn region," OSU declares on its website about its planned trip to Iraq. "We'll hold the only religious crusade of its size in the dangerous land of Iraq."

Well, it's just a harmless video game and a traveling ministry, right? A bit of entertainment and spiritual solace?

article continues...

 

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:38 PM EDT

heh heh, that got thru.

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 10:42 PM EDT

OSU ... operation straight up.  Now isn't that a dandy sexual reference for killing in the name of Jesus?

As an official arm of the Defense Department's America Supports You program, [Operation Straight Up] plans to mail copies of the controversial apocalyptic video game, Left Behind: Eternal Forces to soldiers serving in Iraq. OSU is also scheduled to embark on a "Military Crusade in Iraq" in the near future. "We feel the forces of heaven have encouraged us to perform multiple crusades that will sweep through this war torn region," OSU declares on its website about its planned trip to Iraq. "We'll hold the only religious crusade of its size in the dangerous land of Iraq."

Well, it's just a harmless video game and a traveling ministry, right? A bit of entertainment and spiritual solace?

Not exactly.

The Left Behind videogame is a real-time strategy game that makes players commanders of a virtual evangelical army in a post-apocalyptic landscape that looks strikingly like New York City after 9/11. With tanks, helicopters and a fearsome arsenal of automatic weapons at their disposal, Left Behind players wage a violent war against United Nations-like peacekeepers who, according to LaHaye's interpretation of Revelation, represent the armies of the Antichrist. Each time a Left Behind player kills a UN soldier, their virtual character exclaims, "Praise the Lord!" To win the game, players must kill or convert all the non-believers left behind after the rapture. They also have the option of reversing roles and commanding the forces of the Antichrist. (Video preview here).

Blumenthal also notes that the Operation Straight Up care packages for troops "include a copy of evangelical pastor Jonathan McDowell's More Than A Carpenter -- a book advertised as "one of the most powerful evangelism tools worldwide" -- that is double-published in Arabic." So along with introducing troops to "kill or convert" theology, the Pentagon, via OSU, is encouraging troops to embrace imperial evangelism among Iraqis: gunpoint conversions, just like in the video game. Hey, it worked for the Conquistadors ...

This is so obviously insane that words fail me. Thanks for flagging Blumenthal's story go to David Neiwert, who offers some additional and no less depressing context here.

 

 

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 10:42 PM EDT

... i've had problems since midday, from several locations.
The tap must be closer to VT than not. I'd guess at the new 'access controlled' room at the phone/cable company.

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By Deaniac in GA on Aug 8, 2007 10:46 PM EDT

nite nite

Love ya'll, mean it!!

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By Imn2Paine on Aug 8, 2007 10:54 PM EDT

Ancient Nomads Offer Insights to Modern Crises

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/world/asia/08nomads.html

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But his work coincides with a geopolitical reality that has important implications for American foreign policy makers: many of the countries that most trouble the West — like Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia — have government institutions that reflect a nomadic past.

“Take Afghanistan, where politics are much more dispersed,” said Dr. Frachetti, while sitting in an upscale Almaty cafe in July, a few days before trekking to the Saryesik-Atyrau Desert to conduct that remote area’s first archeological survey. “I think some of our foreign policy complications derive from our inability to locate a nomadic dynamic within contemporary political structures.”

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“What’s almost as dangerous as ignoring the cultural context of politics is misinterpreting it,” he said. “The policy community just doesn’t have a background at looking at cultures’ differences. So even if they do the right thing and start to look at cultural intelligence, the result is they will take stereotypes of Kazakhstan’s nomadic past and call it a complete truth.”

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By seashell on Aug 8, 2007 11:03 PM EDT

ÅttN;  Left Coast

PBS is doing a special on Groucho. 

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By mprov on Aug 8, 2007 11:28 PM EDT

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