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Written by: Sheri Divers on Aug 9, 2007 9:00 AM EDT

A big thanks to all who braved the infamous Garden State Parkway summer traffic to attend the 3rd Annual DFA At the Beach at Moby's Deck in Highlands, NJ! It was so worth it to see so many good friends and meet some new ones! This event gets bigger & better every year! Philly For Change and Democracy For New York City were represented and we were thrilled that they could come! So now it's a Tri-State Event! We heard from DFA nationally endorsed candidates Ed Zipprich and Gina Genovese who fired everyone up! If your not working on a campaign yet, why not go lend them a hand? The Iraq Summer Project guys came by oh and Tom Wyka and his family, oh I can't remember everyone, but a super location, weather, food and friends made for a memorable day! Hope to see ever yone again at the NJ State Democratic Conference at Bally's in Atlantic City, Sept. 6,7, &8.

Let's keep the love going by keeping in touch!

Visit http://www.njfordemocracy.org/forums and talk it up!

-Robin Kinlin, group organizer for NJ for Democracy

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 9:16 AM EDT

Howard Dean is first.

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 9:18 AM EDT

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I hope state-primary/caucus jumping states like Florida remembers that.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 9:18 AM EDT

Let's leave old posts on the old thread.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 9:19 AM EDT

2007 Farm Bill Update & Thank You Thousands of you have told your members of Congress to fight for the future of family farming and rural communities. Thank you! You are making a difference. Unfortunately, the House of Representatives passed a farm bill that is a step backward. Under the House bill mega-farms will get larger government subsidies, the Conservation Security Program is sharply cut and rural development is inadequately funded. We are hopeful that the Senate will pass a better bill. Read more in this month's essay and for the better aspects of the House bill, read "Promising New Programs Part of the House Farm Bill". Attend a Meeting with Your Elected Officials! The August congressional recess is the best opportunity of the year to speak face to face to your representatives close to home. Please watch your local media and our alerts so you can attend listening sessions, thank your Senators and urge them all to reject another farm bill that destroys family farming.

http://www.cfra.org/news_media/newsletter

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By Linda on Aug 9, 2007 9:20 AM EDT

Great Post.......JER SEY!!!

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 9:21 AM EDT

I would encourage every DFA group out there to organize their own health care forum.  They are fabulous events, made even more meaningful by being able to turn it into direct action via post-forum meetings with our representatives.

And if you haven't submitted your health care story, please do!  There are more meetings coming up, and as we found out, those stories are key to letting our elected officials know that we need ACTION on health care.  The link to submit stories is:

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/sicko

Peace,
Sandra Verthein
Northside DFA
http://www.dfalink.com/NDFA

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 9:22 AM EDT

Let's keep the love going by keeping in touch!

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By chilimac on Aug 9, 2007 9:22 AM EDT

we luv you jersey !
(invite us next time!)
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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 9:29 AM EDT

2 days until the election:

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Supporters of Charles F. Margai, of the People's Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) campaign 07 August 2007 in Freetown ahead of 11 August presidential elections.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070808/wl_africa_afp/sierraleonevoteeconomy_070808185337

Prospects high for Sierra Leone to rise out of misery

Wed Aug 8, 2:53 PM ET

FREETOWN (AFP) - Prospects are looking bright for Sierra Leone's post-war economic recovery but decisions to be made by a new government coming in after weekend elections will be crucial, the World Bank said Wednesday.

"I think this country has, in many ways, very good prospects," World Bank country manager for Sierra Leone, Engilbert Gudmundsson, told AFP.

Sierra Leone, ravaged by 10 years of a devastating conflict, last year registered a record seven percent economic growth, spurred mainly by resumed mining exports and agricultural production.

Citing growth seen in other post-conflict countries like Mozambique and Rwanda, he said "there is no reason why Sierra Leone should not be able to continue to grow, at seven percent or even a higher rate for a number years".

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The credibility of the elections would also play a critical role in the direction the country will head.

"What is needed now is to have an election that pulls them (Sierra Leoneans) together and not apart and with an outcome that is acceptable and respected across the board," he said.

The tiny resource-rich west African country holds presidential and parliamentary elections on Saturday, the second after the end of a civil war that claimed some 120,000 lives.

The vote is widely seen as a test on whether the country, whose war is regarded as one of the most brutal in modern history, has definitively turned its back on violence.

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The World Bank representative said President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah's government had performed, well given that the economy collapsed by more than half during the war.

"By most accounts they have been quite successful in putting things together again," he said.

There are however still huge challenges to tackle, such as stemming endemic corruption, rebuilding basic infrastructures, and improving health care and investment conditions.

Sierra Leone scored low last year on the Transparency International ranking on corruption, slipping to 142nd place from the previous year's 126th.

Inflation has dropped from over 60 percent during the war to around 11 percent, and the World Bank said Sierra Leone was "not doing badly".

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By Huron John on Aug 9, 2007 9:33 AM EDT

Blog clock has been reset.

Good!

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By Huron John on Aug 9, 2007 9:34 AM EDT
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By mary vb on Aug 9, 2007 9:43 AM EDT

Linda - Hope you're feeling better.
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I read Mitt's quote about his son's not serving in the military to my husband. His response *of course not, that's for somebody else to do*. Like my right-wing brother in law says *hey, they volunteer to go to Iraq - they love it*. Yup.

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By Linda on Aug 9, 2007 9:51 AM EDT

mary vb, oh, thank you. Yes. It was HORRIBLE. I was crawling on the floor, scared to stand up-that it would make me want to .... a 3rd time. All while trying to plan for my meeting and calling my sister to tell her I couldn't proof read her letter. I think it was a combination of body/hormones and my lunch. I downed about 5 cups of mint tea at the meeting and I felt much better...that and some yummy pita bread. :)

muy thanks.

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By linda b on Aug 9, 2007 10:12 AM EDT

Hey, I am a Jersey girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go DFA NJ. You rock, hope the boat didn't!

Anyway we have the opening of the Campaign HQ of John Miller this evening.

Have called all my PTA friends and gonna get them out for John.

check out the website. www.johnmillerforsenate.com

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By Monica Smith on Aug 9, 2007 10:17 AM EDT

I have stolen a recitation of yesterday's event in Derry for the Hannah blog from Bluehampshire.  While I was in the middle of writing a comment there, the phone rang and it was Rep Jim McGovern of Massachusetts calling me on behalf of Hillary.

He got an earfull.  He promised he would work on her.  I told him some of us would be content with Dodd in the White House.

Somebody must be getting desperate when the grass roots are being called this early. 

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By Monica Smith on Aug 9, 2007 10:23 AM EDT

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Unfortunately, NH seems about forumed-out.  I couldn't find any interest in another one on health care.  I did discover that non-profits who provide "services" to poor people aren't particularly interested in having the system reformed so "their" clients get all the care they need.  They seem to like being a "gateway" organization (middlemen) transitioning the needy to what they think they need.  One reason they're not particularly interested is probably the hundreds of thousands of dollars that our profit-making health care centers "donate" to them as a charitable enterprise. 

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 11:03 AM EDT

11. and 12.

Romney has come out with his boxing mitts on (boxing/dissing the state of MA now):

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/09/romney_has_a_memory_lapse_on_mass/

Campaign NotebookRomney has a memory lapse on Mass.

August 9, 2007

WILTON, Iowa -- Mitt Romney spent yesterday morning barnstorming the small farming communities of Eastern Iowa, holding a series of "Ask Mitt Anything" events and urging his supporters to turn out for the straw poll in Ames on Saturday.

All the time he has spent in Iowa, however, appears to have affected the former Massachusetts governor's recollection of the state he presided over for four years.

At the Wilton Candy Kitchen, which claims to be the "oldest ice cream parlor/soda fountain in the world," Romney told a crowd of mostly elderly residents that his son Josh was about to complete a tour of all 99 counties in Iowa.

A woman raised her hand. "Yes, please!" Romney said.

"How many counties are in Massachusetts?" she asked.

"Thirteen," he said. A few feet away, an aide shook his head and said, "Ten."

"Oh, no, I think it's 13," Romney said. "Not like your 99."

He paused for a moment. "Yeah, if you count Dukes County . . ." he trailed off. "So, anyway, we have very, very few."

"Ninety-nine counties," Romney said, apparently hoping to change the subject, "Why didn't you get to 100?"

The crowd laughed good-naturedly. A spokesman for Romney said he shortly thereafter "corrected the record" to the right answer of 14.

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By mprov on Aug 9, 2007 11:08 AM EDT

How strong is the Democratic presidential field?

Not as strong as you think. A devil's advocate probes for weaknesses among the front-runners.

By Thomas F. Schaller

Aug. 9, 2007 | WASHINGTON -- Right now, the Republican primary field is a mess. Insufficient cash flows, fleeing staffers and consultants, outdated themes and proposals, legitimacy issues with the party's conservative base, expressed unease from the GOP's dying moderate wing and, of course, a variety of problems arising from proximity to a certain incumbent president -- each of the Republican candidates is suffering from at least one of those ailments. Sen. John McCain suffers from all of them simultaneously.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/200...

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 11:12 AM EDT

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/08/09/romneys_honesty_problem/

Romney's honesty problem

By Joan Vennochi, Globe Columnist  |  August 9, 2007

MITT ROMNEY is determined to prove he's pro-life. How about proving he's pro-truth?

Every time Romney tries to explain his evolution from supporter to opponent of abortion rights, his honesty comes into question. That's because his explanations over the years don't add up.

When Republican presidential candidates were asked recently to cite their biggest mistake, Romney replied: "Probably from a political standpoint and a personal standpoint, the greatest mistake was when I first ran for office, being deeply opposed to abortion but saying, 'I support the current law,' which was pro-choice and effectively a pro-choice position. That was just wrong."

The truth is, when Romney ran for office in Massachusetts he went far beyond saying, "I support the current law."

He begged voters to accept him as an embracer of abortion rights. "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal," he said. He staked his credentials on his mother, Lenore. He said she ran for the Senate in 1970 on an abortion-rights platform, inspired by the death of her son-in-law's teenage sister from an illegal abortion. "My mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter. And you will not see me wavering on that," he said.

In June 2005, former Globe columnist Eileen McNamara challenged Romney's assertion of his mother's pro-choice position. Two longtime Romney family friends and political supporters -- former governor William Milliken and former Republican National Committee co-chairwoman Elly Peterson -- told McNamara they could not recall Lenore Romney speaking out publicly for abortion. If she had, it would have represented a dramatic change of heart and break with the Mormon Church. Peterson, who worked on Lenore Romney's campaign, said, "If it happened, I'd remember it. It didn't and I don't." Milliken, who served as George Romney's lieutenant governor, also expressed skepticism.

In response to the column, Romney produced a statement of his mother's position at the time: "I support and recognize the need for more liberal abortion rights while affirming the legal and medical measures need to protect the unborn and pregnant woman." The statement is ambiguous and Romney never accounted for the ambiguity.

Romney campaigned for governor in 2002, again as a pro-choice candidate. He responded to the National Abortion Rights Action League's candidate survey with this statement: "I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the government's."

Romney's running mate, Kerry Healey, vouched for his pro-choice credentials, saying, "There's isn't a dime of difference between Mitt Romney's position on choice" and that of his Democratic opponent.

Then came Romney's alleged epiphany. It occurred, he said, during the Massachusetts debate over stem-cell research, which coincided with Romney's plan to run for president. No longer worried about winning votes in Massachusetts, Romney was free to declare his commitment to the antiabortion crusade.

That he is now a pro-life advocate, committed to overturning Roe v. Wade, is believable, given the political equation necessary to win the GOP nomination. How he got there reads like a script from a bad movie. After pondering stem-cell research, he walked away from his late mother's alleged pro-choice commitment, as well as what was described as a painful memory of a relative who died from an illegal abortion.

He also walked away from the one explanation that makes sense. "He's been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly," Romney adviser Mike Murphy told the National Review in 2006.

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what Romney did on abortion rights. He engaged in a full-body tango with Massachusetts voters, doing everything he could to convince them he was pro-choice. He used his mother and another dead relative as props in a cold political calculation. But, this "pro-life Mormon," to quote Murphy, was "faking it" big time.

That's more than a mistake. That's dishonest.

Romney could very well win the GOP nomination.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 11:45 AM EDT
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Interesting article. But the headline is misleading. The article actually shows all the major candidates to be capable. We do have an incredible range of choice on the Democratic side. Such diversity, ethnically and geographically as well as ideologically.

I saw all of them (except Biden didn't show up!) at the YearlyKos convention. Sat in on two sessions more indepth: Edwards and Richardson.

All of the candidates were impressive. They are smart, quick-witted and can speak in depth on complex topics rather than just sound bites.

The lasting news which gained national coverage and continues is the challenge by Edwards to all of the field (but mainly targeting Clinton) to forgo lobbyist and PAC contributions to campaigns. This is a significant challenge. Clinton made a major mistake in defending special interests and lobbyists and actually seemed to relish sticking it to the progressive community in her defense. Her body language said "bring it on".

Obama has joined with Edwards and it appears they will tag-team this as an DC insider vs. outsider theme in the primary campaign.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 11:51 AM EDT

BTW, saw Joe Trippi for us at the YearlyKos convention. He was on a panel on modern campaigns with Simon Rosenberg (President of NDN) and Jerome Armstrong (mydd.com)

Trippi was also pacing outside of the Edwards breakout session which I attended and it was clear he had done a great job of prepping Edwards. Edwards spent about 40 minutes or so answering tough questions (not always agreeing) and had an incredible rapport with the audience.

The room was organized in roundtable forum style and it was not just an adoring audience. He handled the tough, challenging questions with respect and grace, disagreeing but not in a disagreeable way.

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By Annilow on Aug 9, 2007 12:02 PM EDT

Just testing the blog clock.

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By Robin Kinlin on Aug 9, 2007 12:05 PM EDT

DFA ROCKS!

I wish everyone could have come to the beach with us~ we'd love to see you! next year!

More DFA At the Beach pix here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/sigal.miller/DFAAtTheBeach2007

Jersey DFA'er's have another surprise in store for you next week...stay tuned!

rk:0)

http://www.njfordemocracy.org

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:08 PM EDT

My sense is that Richardson will be on the short list as Clinton's VP if she wins the nomination. He refused to join in with Edwards and Obama on the lobbyist ban challenge. In fact, he was the only other one to explicitly reject it. And he certainly isn't getting the big donations.

He would add geographical and ethnic diversity to the ticket. And his experience is substantial. Just saying: you read it here first if it happens.

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By Thankful2Thankful4Dean on Aug 9, 2007 12:10 PM EDT

Happy Birthday Mz*Little!

Happy Birthday Rich Kolker!

Happy Birthday JayDean!

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:10 PM EDT

One of Iowa's contributions is to demand question and answer sessions from every appearance of candidates, and they all have responded. Yes there are huge differences between them and they are not all "progressives"; but I am very encouraged by how we progressives have set the agenda. We have left the DLC wing in the dust, and that is a very good thing. However if you have one candidate representing one third of the party and the other two thirds split four ways or more then it will appear that the minority view has the most support.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:12 PM EDT

Let's keep the love going by keeping in touch!

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I have to comment on those Dean smiles. It is more than sunshine and blue water.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:13 PM EDT
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Phil Specht
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Hey, Phil. Did you ever drive over to YearlyKos. Sorry if i missed that. If not, you missed an incredible convention. And the Democratic leadership/candidates have really taken notice. Reid, Pelosi and Emmanuel would have been there (and would have gotten an earful) if they weren't held back in DC passing more unconstitutional legislation for Bush.

The irony of them not coming while passing legislation that most at YearlyKos were against was not lost on us.

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 12:16 PM EDT

I see that ole George is having (or just had) another press conference -- this time talking up the zoom, zoom (caveat - just for a certain lucky few) economy.

Well, I don't know about you, but just hearing him or about him, I kind of feel like this man in this photo  (click # 6):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6938759.stm

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By Linda on Aug 9, 2007 12:16 PM EDT

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Responded to article by :
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Thu, 08/09/07
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Howdy Indy....my ears were burning this w/e :)

I believe mprov's article title well stated the message in the article. He started out with why he believed that and stated the case for where he came up with it.

He then ended it full circle....if only we can have the strenghths of each one of the candidates to wrap in to a "a Democratic Dr. Frankenstein" and he finished with the fact that the Republicans will have plenty of weakness to work with in any of those candidates.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:17 PM EDT
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All the more reason we need instant runoff voting in primaries! With a field this large with several good progressive candidates, our vote/power is split. That doesn't happen by accident.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:19 PM EDT

state-primary/caucus jumping states like Florida

Anything that loosens IA's and NH's stranglehold on the selection process is fine by me. 

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By Linda on Aug 9, 2007 12:19 PM EDT

Wow, what a great day today, much celebrating. It's a good thing I'm not feeling too nauseous today, I can dig in to that cake, what kind is it folks?


Happy Happy Birthday Deaners!!!

JayDean!!!
Rich
Mz*Little

ya'll party hardy!

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:22 PM EDT

Let's leave old posts on the old thread. 

Capital idear! 

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:22 PM EDT
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Hi, Linda, Why were your ears burning this weekend?

The Rovian attack machine will ALWAYS have something to attack. I see a lot of strength in the Democratic field and have to say I was impressed with them all (well, maybe not Gravel, he was really bad at YearlyKos I have to report).  Other than not having Dean in the field ;-) , it is much better than 2004.

You can't have a perfect candidate without weaknesses that the rethugs will exploit. My main concern is that Clinton is gathering so much momentum. She is trying to preach party unity (and staying in line). The others can legitimately criticize her policies/record without going personal.  Edwards and Obama started that with the lobbying challenge.

I did note that Richardson seemed to cozy up to Clinton which indicates to me he is viewing a VP slot as a good outcome for him.

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 12:23 PM EDT

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I don't trust FL --

-- it's a state that tends to dismember, gore candidates who rightfully so should have won.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:25 PM EDT

I have put forward a plan that treats every single Democratic Party member in America as equals in choosing the allocation of delegates to the National Convention.

do you support it Sitka?

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:27 PM EDT

Linda,

Of course, if Gore would enter, that would shake everything up in a good way. He had a lot of support at YearlyKos. I wish he would have been there. I attended several GREAT panels on global climate change and energy. Gore would have blown everyone away. Not sure if he was invited. YearlKos was much bigger than Demfest but not as cozy and intimate.

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 12:29 PM EDT

zoom, zoom ?

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070809/wall_street.html?.v=41

Stocks Drop on Rising Credit Anxiety
 

Thursday August 9, 11:40 am ET
By Tim Paradis, AP Business Writer

 

Wall Street Falls Following Renewed Concerns About Subprime Mortgages

NEW YORK (AP) -- Wall Street fell sharply again Thursday after a French bank said it was freezing three funds that invested in U.S. subprime mortgages because it was unable to properly value their assets. The Dow Jones industrials had been down more than 240 points, but pared their losses.The announcement by BNP Paribas raised the specter of a widening impact of U.S. credit market problems. The idea that anyone -- institutions, investors, companies, individuals -- can't get money when they need it unnerved a stock market that has suffered through weeks of volatility triggered by concerns about available credit and bad subprime mortgages.

A move by the European Central Bank to provide more cash to money markets perhaps intensified Wall Street's angst. Although the bank's loan of more than $130 billion in overnight funds to banks at a bargain rate of 4 percent was intended to calm investors, Wall Street saw the step as confirmation of the credit markets' problems.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:30 PM EDT
26. Phil Specht

But, with the excption of Kucinich, Gravel, and Obama they're ALL DLCers (and Obama is a closet case.)

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:30 PM EDT

Happy Birthday Mz*Little!

Happy Birthday Rich Kolker!

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:31 PM EDT

Gore sent them all a wake up call.

too bad you were sick yesterday Linda it was kind of hard to do a virtual high five

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:33 PM EDT

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:34 PM EDT

I have put forward a plan that treats every single Democratic Party member in America as equals in choosing the allocation of delegates to the National Convention.

do you support it Sitka?

I don't know your plan.

Mine is simply to hold multiple primaries and caucuses first and rotate the states in them every 4 years.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:35 PM EDT

I doubt the DLC calls Edwards one of their own after his trade speech in Cedar Rapids this week. 

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:38 PM EDT

I doubt the DLC calls Edwards one of their own after his trade speech in Cedar Rapids this week.

The DLC is like the Mafia. The only way Edwards gets out of it is to die. 

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By Monica Smith on Aug 9, 2007 12:38 PM EDT

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Yes, but our point needs to be that Republicans try to pick apart the 

Democratic agenda because they don't have one of their own.

Also, talking about Democrats makes it seem to their base that 

Republicans aren't self-centered; that they pay attention to the

other side.

That busybodies who stick their nose where it isn't wanted do so

because they are functionally challenged escapes their notice.

That's why it has to be pointed out.  Besides, Democrats talking

about Republicans sends the message, "we care." 

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:41 PM EDT

Guess who said the following in a speech before the DLC? (answer at bottom)

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"But we have to tell the truth here: Something is wrong when executives are getting rich while their shareholders are going broke. Something is wrong when, according to Business Week, CEO pay went from 42 times average worker pay in 1980 to over 400 times average worker pay last year.

It is time to strengthen the bond between pay and performance and restore faith in America's corporate leadership.

We should enact a simple right-to-know rule when it comes to CEO pay. Every board of directors should write a clear description of the full pay of their top corporate officers -- everything from options to wages to insurance -- and include an explanation of why that pay is justified when compared to the pay of the average CEO and the average worker. They should post that letter on the Web, and send it to every worker. "

John Edwards, July 30, 2002

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:42 PM EDT

my plan is to have all fifty states vote by Congressional District simultaneously over a period of six to eight weeks to allocate that Districts delegates to the National Convention, using paper absentee ballots to be delivered to each District party Central Committee to be talleyed and announced each weekend of the balloting so that the candidates can respond to how they are doing in different regions of the country as they see fit.

mainly it gives every Democratic Party member the exactly equal voice  as to who the nominee is 

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:46 PM EDT

We have arrived: the Democratic candidates all refused to attend the DLC meeting but all (except Biden) came to court the netroots at YearlKos. That is something to celebrate!

And BTW, the YearlKos convention was well-attended by DFA staff (which held a complete set of training workshops) and DFA'ers. They were everywhere and recognized by everyone as leaders in the progressive world.

The name is being changed next year to Netroots Nation Convention.

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:47 PM EDT

The name is being changed next year to Netroots Nation Convention.

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yyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:49 PM EDT
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Sitka
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12:38 pm

They (the DLC) expelled him long ago. Watch them deliver a "hit squad" if Edwards continues to lead in Iowa. They'll probably do so through Harold Ford.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:49 PM EDT

my plan is to have all fifty states vote by Congressional District simultaneously over a period of six to eight weeks

I like the idea of doing away with state primaries. 

 The terms "Simultananeously" and "period of....weeks" seem incongruous, though.

Are they all held at once or over a period? If the latter, who goes first? Hopefully not voters in IA and NH every time!

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 12:51 PM EDT

The DLC fears Edwards the most for sure.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:52 PM EDT

They (the DLC) expelled him long ago.

Sounds more like wishful thinking than actual fact.

That's the trouble with Edwards -- we know what he's been but can only guess what he is. 

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:56 PM EDT
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Phil Specht
Thu, 08/09/07
12:42 pm

Have you sent this to Dean? With all of the primary jumping going on, the time is ripe for a reform like this one....of course, lots of devils in the details.

How about raising the issue of instant runoff voting in primaries? With such a large field, the problem we saw last time with division in the party towards Kerry will happen again this time and next if we don't have a way to achieve a majority for the nominee.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
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Sitka
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12:52 pm

I'm glad when people change and admit when they were wrong. But I'm also firm enough to demand that they follow through on what they say they are for...and will do so with all 'em including Edwards.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 12:59 PM EDT

The DLC fears Edwards the most for sure.

Not a bit since he's helping divide the anti-Hillary votes. 

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 1:01 PM EDT

Sitka

the idea is to open ballots in 435 locations, and announce the results for that week simultaneously, and then do it again the next week, and the next and the next, with the number of delegates per District determining the percentage required to get one Delegate. if a similar sized Convention is planned, then ten Delegates per District would be average but party rules of equal representation per Democratic vote in the last election would mean some would have 14 and other only 6 perhaps. for illustration a 10 member allocation would be easiest to imagine because if you has 10% of the votes in every District in the country you would have 10% of the Delegates at the National Convention and would have one from every District in the Union

it would probably force the Convention to make the choice as a likely 50% winner would be less likely than now 

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By * rdorgan on Aug 9, 2007 1:03 PM EDT

speaking of netroots:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19679074/

Top poll

Vote

Which Democrat will best represent labor interests?

currently has 9292 responses:

Biden 4.2%

Clinton 19%

Dodd 0.8%

Edwards 25%

Kucinich 15%

Gravel 1.1%

Obama 26%

Richardson 8.7%

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 1:03 PM EDT

I'm glad when people change and admit when they were wrong.

Me too. But it doesn't make me want to support them.

But I'm also firm enough to demand that they follow through on what they say they are for...and will do so with all 'em including Edwards.

That's like holding the fox accountable AFTER letting it into the hen house. Especially since we know know what Edwards did the last time he was in there.

I'm holding Edwards accountable for that now. 

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By Annilow on Aug 9, 2007 1:06 PM EDT

OT - just discovered Rick Steves' blog. I don't spend a lot of time with Rick bc he's younger, too cool for school sometimes, and his escorted trips while surely perfect seem expensive to me, but he is a great writer and his blog makes you feel like you've been there. And you can comment on his entries if you want. I found the entry on Berlin from a couple of weeks ago and the comments there interesting. btw hope our economy survives.

http://www.ricksteves.biz/blog/

bbl - into travel blogs today :~)

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 1:06 PM EDT

Not a bit since he's helping divide the anti-Hillary votes. 

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or uniting them depending on your view of his candidacy (lol)

I'd be happy to see a two man race develop, but Hillary isn't going to go away so at some point down the road, progressives are going to have to unite behind a single candidate or she may well win 37,33,30

if that happens in Iowa it should mean the fight has just begun, not a stampede of sheeple..

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By Susan Rowe on Aug 9, 2007 1:07 PM EDT
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By linda b on Aug 9, 2007 1:08 PM EDT

DFA also had a great presence at the TBA conference where over 3000 progressives attended.

DFA was a major sponsor of the event and Jim was on a bloggers panel and Howard spoke.

While everyone was not a "blogger" they all blog for sure.

All the Dem prez candidates where there except for biden.

So now we have two LARGE VENUES for DFA to attend and make a major impact.

Thanks Jim and Sheri for getting this done. Now on to Michigan and Ohio and Florida and YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa!

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By Phil Specht on Aug 9, 2007 1:09 PM EDT

one of the reasons for my Primary rules proposal which I will put forward again next cycle is that the winner of that Primary would prove they have what it takes to win the General

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 1:12 PM EDT

the idea is to open ballots in 435 locations, and announce the results for that week simultaneously, and then do it again the next week, and the next and the next,

Let people vote whenever they choose over a six week period? Sounds good.

I'd say make it truly democratic and let whomever gets the most votes be the nominee. Dividing people into small groups with representatives is a recipe for the same old corruption and manipulation. Simpler is always better.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 1:14 PM EDT

or uniting them depending on your view of his candidacy (lol)

Polls say he's helping divide anti-hillary Dems.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 1:15 PM EDT
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Phil Specht
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Still much too early to tell. This time in 03, Howard Dean had 12% in Iowa! Then he rose and fell in Nov-January. Much can happen to shift things around. And if Gore enters, it turns it all upside down. But my view is he must enter by Labor Day or he's really not going to.

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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 1:17 PM EDT

one of the reasons for my Primary rules proposal which I will put forward again next cycle is that the winner of that Primary would prove they have what it takes to win the General 

Unless it winds being brokered at the convention as you suggest might happen. In that case the insiders, not the people, decide.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 1:18 PM EDT
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Sitka
Thu, 08/09/07
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I'm holding them all accountable. But admission of doing something wrong is the FIRST step to redemption. But we must hold all of them accountable for what they say will do. And build the political muscle to do that.

That is why YearlyKos was so important -- it demonstrated the muscle of the progressive netroots. Bill O'Reilly understood that and he tried (and failed) to bring it down.

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By Indy Steve on Aug 9, 2007 1:20 PM EDT
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By Sitka on Aug 9, 2007 1:20 PM EDT

admission of doing something wrong is the FIRST step to redemption.

I guess it's the speed of their turnaround which makes many suspect the motives of the Redemptionist Democrats. 

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