Howard Dean is First, Last, and Always!!

w00T!! 

Candle for Thankful's Brother

I'm wondering if DFA has sent out a little email to its members to alert them to this video on the blog.

There's still lots of people who have no idea what Youtube is.

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mary vb
Mon, 01/08/07
1:47 pm

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40. Just got back from taking my daughter for her second shot in the series of three for the HPV vaccine. In my mind - it is plain silly to not get this for our daughters.

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Well, watching the Virgin Queen last night on PBS.  The great Queen Elizabeth, sponsor of the Elizabethan theatre for Shakespeare, and a pre-cursor for women's liberation (she refused to marry for political reasons) - she would have balked at your reasoning IMO. 

To each her/his own.  Let's hope the 30% of HPV viruses for which the vaccine does not protect, has not evolved to be the dominant form by the time they might have sex.

I still think developing and promoting a blood/urnie test would be more expedient in the long run.  A PAP smear is not really a test for the presence of the virus, especially for males.

Great firstie puddle. Dean is always first.

Tail end of last thread, may I repeat?

"Christian Groups Urge Pelosi to Hold Off Embryonic Stem Cell Bills Based on New Scientific Discovery

A growing coalition of Faith organizations are expected to hand-deliver a letter to Speaker Pelosi this week."

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/240841883.html

What a coincidence that a researcher at Harvard Univ. finds that embryonic fluid can be used for the same purpose as embryonic stem cells. Gee, just when Congress was to take up the issue and may have a veto-proof vote.

One thing that gets my attention even more is that it sounds like gathering this fluid is as easy and common as apple pie. That isn't so, that information was not even taken into consideration. Any time a needle is inserted through the uterus of a pregnant woman, there is risk for her and fetus as well as pain for the woman.

Don't all these new appointments have to be approved by the Senate? Why has there been no mention of that? Surely sending Negroponte to State will provide an opportunity to inquire about his assistant Steele and the organizing of death squads in Baghdad.

Howie on YouTube! YouTube would have certainly helped his campaign had it been available in 2003.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/08/world/...

Without saying what the specific penalties for failing to achieve the goals would be, American officials insisted that they intended to hold the Iraqis to a realistic timetable for action, but the Americans and Iraqis have agreed on many of the objectives before, only to fall considerably short.

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I wish an increase of troops could get the job done in Baghdad, but when Americans are the ones getting killed while the Iraqis refuse to fight....well, it gets extremely frustrating.

And Americans will continue to get killed because the prez refuses to set physical timetables that could generate some sense of urgency for these Iraqi Forces to defend their own land.

The prex needs to wake up and someone needs to tell him if this war is WINNABLE or a waste of time, money and blood.

What a foreign policy disaster....

The prex s/b The prez

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Reed in VT
Mon, 01/08/07
1:52 pm

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Reverting to form, Democrats in Congress are cautiously trying to have it both ways so as to avoid having to take a stand on any of the issues that matter....

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True that!
The only power can make Demos to do it is American people.
Otherwise people left with no choice but to do it by themselves.

4. Hi Fred - From what my doctor told me - the virus covers the most common HP virus. The other 30% are very rare. You're right - to each his own. I had a disagreement with a friend about this because she thinks it encourages promiscuity -. I think that is absurd and archaic. As my daughter said - *this isn't going to encourage me to go out and have sex*.

I am on a bad computer today so I cant see Dean Clip---but i am sure it is great.  Lost the momentum with Fast food nation as I am tracking schlosser through fox search light and the crazy holiday stuff screwed me. will keep you all posted.

I saw that edwards has an ad on daily kos. I do appreciate him going after the grass roots, i also know that he wanted to NOT back down and fight to have all the votes counted unlike Kerry, but ya know, I still don't get a howard powered feeling from the sun of the mill worker. I wish i did. 

my son got expelled from junior high school for insisting that condoms be a part of sex education (my teaching, better safe than sorry)

we live in the dark ages

the bookstore at the Grand Canyon would be exhibit A if there weren't so many others

there will be many new vaccines coming and they all will save many lives while damaging a few

and they won't contain mercury

60.

Joan* In*Florida

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BTW - I first heard about this over a year ago. not sure if it was embilical chord fluid.

 Can't amniotic fluid be gotten when a child is born, at birth, without this invasive procedure?  I think it is in the embilical chord or maybe that fluid is just as useful.

ChrisNYC

whew, that will give me a chance to read the book

my son got expelled from junior high school for insisting that condoms be a part of sex education (my teaching, better safe than sorry)

we live in the dark ages

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That's nonsense

Teens laugh at condom use and usually toss them after the first try.  They are no solution to anything. 

IMO - We should be teaching kids about STD (sexually transmitted disease) and fully explain the menstrual cycle and the variable of when fertility occurs.  So much of the street wisdom on this is incorrect and misleading. 

The fact that we don't teach this fundamental of human physiology is "dark ages" IMO. If we did not have the feminists and health advocates muddying the waters by  pushing condoms, plastic and chemicals as the panacea, (while chiding about the fertility cycle,)  then we could have a fair discussion of this beneficial curriculum as "sex education".

there will be many new vaccines coming and they all will save many lives while damaging a few

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mercury is by far not the only unnecessary toxin in vaccines, and they'll be more sure to come without some kind of reform.

Even with toxic additives, do you feel the number of vaccines can be unlimited without any adverse effects?  We are light-years away from having scientific answers on this, but many auto-immune disease in childhood have been on a sharp rise since the sharp increase of more vaccines in the 1980s.

Just look at  the ten year study on hormone therapy that was surprisingly stopped because of unexpected results.  We need many of those for vaccines.  We have not.

correction

even without toxic additives

13. You taught your son well. Perhaps some parents should have more faith in their kids. Open dialogue and good parenting helps!

Great comments by Gov. Dean about the 06 gains.  I wish he'd have left out Iraq because it just seemed to be wedged into commentary about something else completely.

Monica, I thought the same thing about YouTube...everyone should see this.  The DNC should craft a more fine-tuned message from the Governor....expand on why we should make our case in every state and then pay for it as a TV ad.

The netroots can pass this link to each other but it'd be much preaching to the choir--we already believe in the 50-state strategy.  mho. 

4. Hi Fred - From what my doctor told me - the virus covers the most common HP virus. The other 30% are very rare. You're right - to each his own. I had a disagreement with a friend about this because she thinks it encourages promiscuity - I think that is absurd and archaic.

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I don't think it is that absurd or archaic - It is a subconcious thing, and it is hard to say how much fear of contracting disease discourages promiscuity or vice versa.  In the 1980s fear of Herpes and HIV put an abrupt end to the sexual revolution.

There is a micro-ecology balance that says if one species occupies an organism it will block out another.  That is why we eat yogurt with friendly to reduce yeast overgrowth.  We don't know if the body killing one kind of HPV might foster the growth of one (perhaps even worse) in the microecology vacuum.

Biology if full of unexpected consequenses.

http://electroniciraq.net/news/2803.shtm...


Maybe you thought I was making the similarity of Iraq to urban renewal/removal up.......................

Baghdad 2025: The Pentagon Solution to a Planet of Slums E-mail this
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So you think that American troops, fighting in the urban maze of Baghdad's huge Shiite slum, Sadr City, add up to nothing more than a horrible mistake, an unexpected fiasco? The Pentagon begs to differ. For years now, U.S. war planners have believed that guerrilla warfare is the future -- not against Guevarist focos in the countryside of some recalcitrant, possibly-oil-rich land, but in growing urban "jungles" in the vast slum cities that increasingly dot the planet.

Take this urban-labyrinth description, for instance. "Indigenous forces deploying mortars transported by local vehicles and ready to rapidly deploy, shoot, and re-cover are common...[Meanwhile,] an infantry company as part of the US rapid reaction forces has been tasked with the...mission to secure several objectives including the command and control cell within a 100 square block urban area of the capital..."

Is it Baghdad? It's certainly possible, since the passage was written in 2004 with urban warfare in Iraq's capital already an increasingly grim reality for Washington's military planners. But the actual report -- by an official from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the Pentagon's blue-skies research outfit -- focused on cities-of-the-future, of 2025 to be exact, as part of "a new DARPA thrust into Urban Combat."
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 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/celinda-lake-thinks-voter_b_38107.html

 Beltway Bandits Bloviating!

One of the Democratic Party's top consultants is quoted in the Washington Post as advising Democrats to avoid taking a strong stand against the escalation of the Iraq war.

Ms. Celinda Lake is quoted as follows: "people are not looking to their individual members of Congress to solve the Iraq war". And: advising Democrats to focus on domestic issues rather than opposing the escalating war, Ms. Lake is quoted saying this is "the perfect juxtaposition".

It is high time that Democrats across America, from the grassroots to national leaders in Washington, begin a serious debate about the soul of the Democratic Party on Iraq, and the strategy to be credible on national security and war.

First: standing ovation to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for publicly opposing the troop surge and the escalation of war it represents.

And: standing ovation to candidates such as Jim Webb and Joe Sestak and the many Democrats who campaigned with honor for dramatic change in the policy.

And: standing ovation to Jack Murtha, Joe Biden, and Jay Rockefeller who began the new Congress with strong statements and political courage.

This is fact: The Democrats took their strongest position of leadership on Iraq in 2006, and won, after they took weaker stands in 2002 and 2004, and lost.

Ms. Lake is wrong about the politics of Iraq and this should be put into the open and debated throughout the party.

Even worse:

If Ms. Lake believes "people are not looking to their individual members of Congress to solve the Iraq war", which Democratic voters has she been polling and what election returns has she been reviewing?

Lets get this in the open and have a party-wide debate about this:

In the 1980s fear of Herpes and HIV put an abrupt end to the sexual revolution.---

No it did not.  It brought about safe sex practices and brought about a surge in testing. 

http://pol.moveon.org/pac/noescalation/?referring_id=9668-5596659-hHacFa7q05yVkvzwWLnQMQ

hey guys, click on the link, sign the petitiion and call your congress critters.

NOW.

More on Consultants:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-budowsky/celinda-lake-thinks-voter_b_38107.html

I would propose Democrats across the Nation do this:

First, think about suggesting when you make contributions of your hard earned money, that this money not be an income transfer from you to high paid consultants giving the kind of advice that Ms. Lake gives in the Washington Post.

Second, when consultants such as Ms. Lake give this kind of advice, their clients should be scrutinized by average Americans and asked directly whether they are being urged to avoid taking stands of honor and sound military policy.

Senators and Congressmen should be asked: are you paying big money for this advice?

Do you realize this is not what your voters had in mind on election day? Where the lives of your constituents in service are at risk, are you voting your conscience or your consultant?

What Ms. Lake was quoted as saying in the Washington Post was repellent, wrong, and embodies the worst threat to the future of the Democratic Party, which is this:

There is a certain class of insider Democrats, that views war and peace as issues to be maneuvered, exploited and positioned for political advantage and not as matters of conscience, honor and sound military policy.

When troops risks their lives, it is not about "juxtapositions". When voters vote, elections have meaning..This is what Democrats believe, what average Americans believe, what military families believe, and what our voters believed in 2006.

Honorable men and women should make decisions on war and peace, based on high principle and sound military doctrine. It is fine and proper to have honorable disagreements on policy and principle. But it is dead wrong, to treat the lives of our troops and the security of our Nation as the petty cash of politics and the commercialism of political consultancy.

Time to say: no more.

I think what we need to realize is that the old geezers who are running this war were really freaked by the burning cities of the late sixties and seventies.

If you have a look at "Sir. No, sir" you'll see that the agitation against VietNam was closely linked to the rise of black militancy and the push for civil rights.
I don't think these people have any understanding that what motivates resistance isn't crowded living or poverty, but oppression.
Poverty is a virtue. Small is beautiful. But these are principles that don't have much favor with people who are into manipulation. If material things aren't important to people, what do you use to make them do your bidding?

yyyyeeeeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for Howard!

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$.02 for Liz's post:  

wish I had a transcript for you, but we have a bevy of PhD's at deer camp and the discussion of stem cell research between the Theologian, the Management team member of a  new drug testing protocol design company, and the head of the Legal Team representing a University that holds the patents for several stem cell lines about overcoming basic scientific illiteracy in discussing the issues with politicians writing laws about things they don't understand was a gem, but if religious predispositions put blinders on, next to impossible

what I find interesting is how our WTO bargining position towards the EU on GMO's runs counter to our own laws on medical research facing the Bush restrictions

over-ride his pending veto and get on with the cures, understanding most human progress has been two steps forward, one back  

oh jeezus and wtf. now fred is giving us "family life" advice.

condoms reduce the chance of std's fred. get some real info somewhere.

kids are gonna have sex whether we like it or not. tell them about std's and they glaze over. their parents won't tell them and the abstinence only  crowd yells about not telling their little one about sex.

so give me a  friggen break.

statistics just out says that most people have sex before marriage. physicians now say they see more middle school with std's. so if they used a condom they would not have that desease.

give them all the info they need and let them make a decision.

one lady on my family life committee was opposed to the family life curriculum cause her precious little girl needs to be protected. well her little girl go pregnant and had a "miscarriage" which is upper class verbage for an abortion.

14. Fred, You are right also about the umbilical cord fluid, but that isn't new news.

So, I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that what the Harvard researchers referred to is the fluid in the uterus of pregnant women which can only be harvested through an invasive procedure.

In any event, the very thought that it was brought out as "news" over the weekend before stem cell bills will be introduced in Congress is not just coincidental, but deliberatly reported in the way they did to influence politics. If so, shame on Harvard.

thank you howard, that is why I love ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and most of celinda lake's views have been proven wrong.

she is one of the dlc die hards. seen her at conferences. prints what the insiders want to hear.

13. Phil kudos to you.

I always told my two kids. a boy and a girl, to TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. To make good decisions and make healthy decisions. And so far, so good. I told them to respect other people they date and hang around with.

You can always say "my child wouldn't do that" . but they probably do.

29. Linda b, I think these days most every healthy person has sex in some form or another long before marriage. I took my daughter, a very attractive girl (even if I say so myself:), to the doctor at about 13 yrs old to get "the pill" because she was very mature for her age and had been dating several older boys.

Common sense should reign supreme for each parent. I look back and know I did the right thing for her. Every family is different and must make their own objective decisions.

35.

Another great one, jc!

Now if the rethugs will only listen. 

linda b
Mon, 01/08/07
3:24 pm

give them all the info they need and let them make a decision

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About the only statement in that post with whicy I agree.  However, would you not agree the fundamental biology of the female menstrual cycle is the most fundamental info they need???

 The rest of your post is your opinion not proven fact. IMO

As for your friend, we could give anecdotes on both sides of the debate all day and it would prove nothing.

bingo jc

"Barack Obama's faith challenge -Jan 8, 2007"



Is this guy insane? He wants to preach to us about faith? Where does he get off?

One evangelical trying to insert his new found personal faith in to our politics wasn't enough? Is this guy a day late and a dollar short or what?

Did you not even notice the thread this was posted on?

And ingratiating himself with the "Mega Church" appearance is not something to be bragging about. Why doesn't he just ask to run with John McCain while he's at it?

the biology of proteins passing through cellular membranes might be a start and how such materials are stopped by latex (which is why surgeons wear gloves)

Common sense should reign supreme for each parent. I look back and know I did the right thing for her. Every family is different and must make their own objective decisions.

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You gotta do, what you gotta do. I just don' t believe in propagating a "one size fits all" approach.  Each person is unique.

jc, don't know if this would work, but I keep thinking "Bush doesn't have the power needed to surge".

Anybody else think all the 'mysterious' substances in Miami, Sugarland, and NYC are BushCo trying to scare us into sending more troops and take more civil liberties??

39 - It's this kind of bs talk that irks me. Religion is private.period. Not to mention it offends people who have no religion and makes Obama look like he thinks he knows better than them.

As for your friend, we could give anecdotes on both sides of the debate all day and it would prove nothing.

these are proven facts. don't try to hype your own opinions and cross them as facts.

get the facts.

Linda SF, do you have a link to Obama' faith thing?

And did any of you notice that 6 posts were removed from the overnight thread?

Several of mine and several of Monica's, it looks like.

No coincidance about the amniotic fluid and the fundi involvement in this.  Jeez. 

Well, I certainly can't spell today  but you know what I mean.  :-)

linda b
Mon, 01/08/07
3:24 pm

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oh jeezus and wtf. now fred is giving us "family life" advice.

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why the sarcasm? I have two little girls myself and think about it all the time.  The two-year-old looks so much like me we affectionately call her "little Freddy with a vagina" LOL

one of these days I'll let you all guess which of the blog babies are descendents of embryo transfers and which are not

Howard is.(his great great grandmother)

and one of the moodonna and donna pair is and one isn't

my herd is about 50/50 mainly from harvesting a 100 a year in the early 1980's

with the furor over cloning I'm not surprised the industry is keeping quiet about discarding the sperm with y chromosomes, since more lawmakers are men

the best speech I heard Howard give was in defense of science at the University of La Crosse the day before the Wisconsin primary

these are proven facts. don't try to hype your own opinions and cross them as facts.

get the facts.

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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree, since you are vehemently sure, I'd like to see your studies and statistics that prove your "facts"

we could give anecdotes on both sides of the debate all day and it would prove nothing.---

Yet you provide nothing BUT anecdote here on the blog, fred. 

42. Jennie Lorain

Yeah, that's a good concept to bounce around.

Maybe for a shorter one.

"Bush lacks the power to surge." 

49.

Verrrrry effective, jc!

you are striking close to the heart now jc, some of those should be at the march

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seashell


It looks like one of those "internal leak" type stories, but even worse is that they think this a good thing to report on?


Here's the link rdorgan posted of the story.
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/featur...

linda b
Mon, 01/08/07
3:24 pm

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And you think sex education does not need to include a thorough knowledge of STDs (sexually transmitted diseases) and the detail of the female menstrual-fertility cycle and its variables?

What planet are you from?  wait.  I think I know.  The one that sounds like a body part. LOL

I figure a few reminders of Bush's other habits might not hurt.

I agree Phil,
jc, your designs are fantastic! I truly wish I could buy them all and had a place I could put them.

Can you come up with maybe a tshirt sticker? You know, put a small flat magnet on the inside and then a magnetic bumper sticker on the outside, so we could interchange and WEAR YOU STICKERS every day.

My idea, yours to keep :)

seashell don't blame me for ignoring the overnight, my power was off

if your links contain a underline hyphen they mess up the blog and that might be why they were deleted

I wasn't able to follow the long links anyway. maybe others can

Linda

"patent pending"

The Iran situation is truly alarming. These people are planning a global catastrophe!

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01082007.html

For at least a year the Bush administration has been fomenting and financing terrorist groups within Iran. Seymour Hersh and former CIA officials have exposed the Bush administration's support of ethnic-minority groups within Iran that are on the US State Department's list of terrorist organizations. Last April US Representative Dennis Kucinich wrote a detailed letter to President Bush about US interference in Iran's internal affairs. He received no reply.

The Israeli/neoconservative plan, of which Bush may be a part or simply be a manipulated element, is to provoke a crisis with Iran in which the US Congress will have to support Israel. Both the Israeli government and the American neoconservatives are fanatical. It is a mistake to believe that either will be guided by reason or any appreciation of the potentially catastrophic consequences of an attack on Iran.

US aircraft carriers sitting off Iran's coast are sitting ducks for Iran's Russian missiles. The neoconservatives would welcome another "new Pearl Harbor."

The US media is totally unreliable. It cannot go against Israel, and it will wrap itself in the flag just as it did for the invasion of Iraq. The American public has been deceived (again) and believes that Iran is on the verge of possessing nuclear armaments to be used to wipe Israel off the map. The fact that Americans are such saps for propaganda makes effective opposition to the neoconsevatives' plan for WW IV practically impossible.

Large percentages of Americans still believe that Saddam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attack. Recent polls show that 32% still believe that Iraq gave substantial support to al-Qaeda, and 18% believe that Saddam Hussein was directly involved in the 9/11 attack. WXIA-TV in Atlanta posted viewers comments about Hussein's execution on its web site. Atlantan Janet Wesselhoft was confident that Saddam Hussein is "the one who started terrorism in this country, he needs to be put to rest

In a world ruled by propaganda, lies become truths. The power of the Israel Lobby is so great that it has turned former President Jimmy Carter, probably the most decent man ever to occupy the Oval Office and certainly the president who did the most in behalf of peace in the Middle East, into an anti-semite, an enemy of Israel. The American media, from its "conservative" end to its "liberal" end did its best to turn Carter into a pariah for telling a few truths about Israel's mistreatment of the Palestinians in his book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid.

As previously reported, the neoconservatives believe that the use of nuclear weapons against Iran would force Muslims to realize that they have no recourse but to submit to the Isreali/US will. The use of nuclear weapons is being rationalized as necessary to destroy Iran's underground facilities, but the real purpose is to terrorize Islam and to bring it to heel.

60. Linda

There are bumper-sticker sized magnets available online at http://www.northernsun.com/n/s/2412.html, or you can find sheets of magnets you can cut to fit (usually in craft stores or home-supply stores)

Linda,

Maybe sticking one magnet to a sticker, and a separate magnet under the t-shirt?  :-) 

I can also put any of those messages on a t-shirt, if someone wants one for the march.

65.

jc


yeah,



Phil....serious, there's a patent pending on that? Or are you teasing?

just got done with morning chores a few hours ago and now I have to start evening chores so I'm done by the kickoff

sigh

bbl(and Barb I was thinking of your broken finger as a bumbed my shin in the dark this morning with the electricity off ... how did you go for days ???!!!!)

jc, like take a small piece of that magnet, you wouldn't need the entire piece, attach it to your various bumper stickers and then have a flat magent that goes inside your tshirt, so you can wear a variety of differnt bumper stickers, what ever you feel like saaying that day.........AND .... You can wear it on any shirt. Winter? No problem, long sleeves zap. Summer, cool, slap that puppy on a tank.

Wearable Bumper Stickers, YEAAAHHHH!

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news.cfm...

Letter to the Editor

Stop whining, Christians

12/20/2006

I am more than sick and tired of hearing people bemoan the "war on Christmas." And can someone explain to me how a group of people who have been in complete control of western civilization for the past millennium and a half can still whine about being persecuted?

Wake up, Christians. You make up the largest religion in the world. Almost 80 percent of people in the U.S. are Christian, including the president and vice president, 92 percent of the U.S. House of Representatives, and all but 11 U.S. senators. You are not the ones being persecuted anymore.

Why don't you take a moment away from being infuriated that some store clerk wished you happy holidays and consider for a moment what it's like for the one in five Americans who aren't Christian. You complain about having the "liberal agenda" forced down your throats? Believe me, it's nothing compared to the 24/7 constant bombardment of your culture. Last time I checked, the mail still runs on Rosh Hashanah, I don't get the day off for Beltane, Ramadan specials don't preempt my normal television programs, and I don't have to spend a month being inundated with celebrations for Diwali.

So, I'm all for this war on Christmas. Where do I enlist? How do I help stop this yearly monthlong (and growing) frenzied orgy of a holiday?

Perhaps the best thing would be for people to read Cyril Vandenberg's letter to the editor from Sunday ("What do we celebrate?"). Then maybe a few more of the 250 million Christians in this country might decide that they should be focusing more on what Christmas is supposed to be about for them instead of on forcing everyone else to take part in it, and getting angry when we say, "No thanks, but Happy Holidays."

Michael Andrews

Aliquippa

maybe those little rare earth magnets for under the shirt.  They're very tiny and very strong.

Congress isn't meeting today becuz *Boner* wants to go to the college bowl game. First promise broken fast, no?  Sports continue to be the priority over the demise  of our country.

Click to stop the Iraq war escalation Move-On Petition

http://pol.moveon.org/noescalation/one_c...

who's *Boner*?

74. Karen

He spells it "Boehner" and pronounces it "Bayner." 

And you think sex education does not need to include a thorough knowledge of STDs (sexually transmitted diseases) and the detail of the female menstrual-fertility cycle and its variables?

What planet are you from?  wait.  I think I know.  The one that sounds like a body part. LOL

 why don't u just give it up. you have no relevance here, kind of like robert.

just blathering on. not worth getting any info. just blather.

poor kids.

Jennie Lorain,

How about something like this?

Boehner is a repug - house minority leader?

Thanks, Huron John.  

Someone  mentioned upthread that all but 11 congresscritters are Christian. We have 2 Buddhist and I believe either 34 or 43 Jews.

Obama has lost what little support I was giving him, blathering on and on about religion.

If faith has the transformative effect that Obama and others claim that it does, wouldn't some reasons be opaque to those whose hearts have not yet been turned?"

This is pure sophistry.  Many things can turn hearts and transform people, and it's not faith that does it.   People who are cured do not suddenly run out and join a fundi church.  Some may, but certainly the 2 are mutually exclusive.  To find out if people truly have faith that works is to watch what they do and listen to what they say.  If the 2 agree, that's a start.  After that, watch how they treat others.  If they send them to war, steal, lie, whatever, the *faith* they proclaim to have is worthless.  Totally worthless.

"By their fruits you will know them."

Jesus  (maybe - who knows who said what when)

You bet we should be worried about Israel.  Is it acting unilaterally or is BushCo putting the stamp on a proposed nuclear war?  If it's acting alone, we need to cut off arms immediately.  How can we find this out?

The CM is sound asleep about Israel, proof positive the Zionists here and in Israel have a strangle-hold on our foreign policy...and perhaps on our media too.  Carter is a decent good man and he was allowed to be slandered in the press.  

Who do you think controls the CM? 

Boehner is a repug - house minority leader?

Of course! {slaps self aside the head...grin}

I just didn't know his *nickname*.

2 + 2 finally = 4. He's from Ohio (Ohio State and Florida in the championship game tonight which Michigan shoulda been in, but we won't go there). :+)

Anyhow, that's not an excuse to shut Congress down.  

whoooot!  howard's clip made my day!

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taking a different tack to sex education..........a school in texas educates its students about the costs of raising a child from diapers to a babysitter for a night out to high school graduation, using 'the price is right' game show format.  the course could easily pass for microeconomics, if a curriculum shift is needed.  i don't know whether the cost of birth control is included.

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escalating the war is like pouring kerosene on the fire, not quenching it......."[T]he root cause of violence in Iraq today:  its occupation by foreign, infidel troops." -- Dilip Hiro, "The U.S. Can't Bring Peace to Iraq, But Muslim Nations Can," THE WASHINGTON SPECTATOR, Jan 1, 2007.  Hiro suggests Muslim peacekeepers from the arab league and the ICO.

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we might see inroads this year in addressing the health care crisis.  arnold is presenting universal health care for children, including those of undocumented immigrants.  and corporate business leaders, who cleverly used harry and louise against hillary, finally get it--the u.s. needs universal health care to stay competitive.

Pelosi and Reid should have said, "Go and enjoy the game."  We'll vote and pass bills w/o you." (the way the repugs did frequently)

Bad bad first day of Congress.  They should be on the floor howling about not nuking Iran.....

Meanwhile, little tiny Kim Jong il, in his platform shoes, is making bombs to hit us.

This strikes me as amusing, in a black comedy way.  In fact, this whole country/world is a tragi/comedy.

So I'm off to write Keith asking him to start addressing the Israel hubris and connect it to US hubris.  I think Keith is Jewish, but maybe that won't affect his journalism. He's one of my heros, and now we need to get really serious about who and what is running our foreign policy.

OMG A woman just called in to Randi Rhodes. She just got word about her nephew who has been serving in Iraq for the past 2 years doing computers which is what he supposed to be doing, computers that is. He just got word that he is now going to be heading over to Afghanistan front lines with a gun. He is having panic attacks and doesn't want to do this, so they have put him on PROZACK while they ship him over.



BUSH, YOU SUCK.

"Another" version 

there were no votes set for the house today. set up a long time ago. some are still going through orientation.

the dems are still there working.

and I hope blizter doesn't have a stroke reporting this.

Tanner

Just a note to all who may be interested.

I was on the Family Life Education Committee for our school system for 6 years, the last four as chair.

Va Family Life is not mandatory for each school district.

We are abstinence based but that does not stop us from getting the info out.

We select videos, literature, textbooks, programs, teaching materials, etc for the school system.

You have to opt out if you want out.

We have a very low opt out rate.

We have doctors, healthcare professionals on our committee along with members of our local community. Also clergy.

We also set up a liason with the general assembly to monitor bills trying to block what our teachers can teach. We are very proactive, no reactive.

Over the years I have listened and have seen what works, what doesn't, It is not simple.

We had the crying baby that the high school students took home to see what it was like to bring a baby up.

We try, we may not always make it. But we try.

Kids are told about STD and contraception.

Middle school is the biggest problem.

That is where my "facts" come from.

In this chess game, the oil is the king that must be captured.  Or maybe the Queen, to give plenty of movement around the region.

In case not everyone here is a member of MoveOn... 

Dear MoveOn member,

It's outrageous: after the voters, the generals, and the Iraq Study Group all told the President to lead us out of Iraq, he is planning an escalation and will send more troops as soon as this month.

Congress can block an escalation but it is uncertain if they will. They need to hear from us immediately and loudly. We owe it to our troops—and the Iraqis—whose lives are on the line.

Can you sign the petition opposing an escalation in Iraq? We'll deliver your comments to your representatives by the end of the day—there's no time to waste. Click below.

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 Good to know that the dems are not totally remiss,  but.....it looks very bad on the news.  So then why did *boner* have to ask permission?  This doesn't add up.  Is this designed to make the dems look bad and the repugs look powerful?