Peace is first, damm*t

ok..i believe i have actually found a link the the peace wreath in question....


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/lo...

I just lit a candle for Thankful's brother.  I don't know what if anything will help, but it certainly can't hurt.  And if it helps the family feel better, then why not?   Let's fill up the whole page with light.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=T2T4D

78.

Thankful2Thankful4Dean
Mon, 11/27/06
6:13 pm

my sister just called with some not so good news on my brother. the other day I showed my mom the candle page and told her how many of you were sending well wishes and prayers. she got on the phone for a minute and asked me to ask 'the bloggers' if they would keep on praying.

 ------------------------------------------------

I know you are such a caring and loving community of bloggers and so I personally ask for your prayers and good vibes not only for Renee (Thankfuls's brother) but for Thankful. She has been through so very much since last Tuesday, even though the Thanksgiving dinner went well last night with puddle, my son and daughter-in-law, their neice and myself. Se is a wonderful cook and puts out a helping hand for everyone in need. Thankful took  puddle to miniapolis this morning and cameback here, but now has a migrane. I can't imaging how much that must hurt. the slighest light, sound or movement causes her pain right now. Sooo, please give her your good vibs, your energy and your prayers for her migrane and the strength she will need in the coming week as her brothers diagnosis becomes more clear.

I love you all and hope you will hold together in the tough times as well as the easy.

bob xoxo 

My mistake, the last post was me ... bob

I lent puddle my laptop while she was here and she left it logged in.

Love ya,

bob 

    Makes a really nice Holiday Gift! 

Here's the link

http://teocawki.blogspot.com 

Pagosa Springs Colorado homeowners are battling over whether a Christmas wreath that includes a peace sign is an anti-Iraq war protest or even a promotion of Satan.

PUH-LEEEEEEZE!!! 

sheesh! 

http://teocawki.blogspot.com

I only hope the owner in Colorado with the questionable wreath, asks the complainers if they feel Christ doesn't believe in PEACE.


P E A C E

God is a Liberal

Now, that's enough religion, because as we see, too many are hypocrits.

Subway,

when i click buy now I get an error message:

"Some required information is missing or incomplete. Please correct your entries and try again. "

Make great stocking stuffer for my sisters and friends.

Peace,

bob 

bob

mustering maximum goodwill and love Thankfuls way

the Dean community is a caring bunch and it always helps to know there are people there for you when you are down

I'll be going by your way again soon and I always wave up at the turn. I'll buy you and thankful lunch one of these times if we can link up. There is a pizza place out 14 by the theaters that my grandaughter likes

sitka,

Perhaps the board president in Colorado would have been ok with it if hat had been a rendered Iraqi shoplifter. 

Phil Specht
Mon, 11/27/06
8:01 pm

Phil,

That would be great. Give a holler any time. I'm home the rest of the week.

I hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Mine with Thankful and puddle was wonderful. Have a picture of usenjoying, but Thankful and Puddle don't want it posted ... not the right profile I guess.

Jusst got a call from puddle ... she is safe and sound in Baltimore and will be heading back to WV early tomorrow afternood.  

blessings to all,

bob 

• Recruiting phone bankers, encouraging them with information I learned in DFA Night School
• Recruiting drivers for rides to polling places
• Arranging and joining a rally to support our statewide candidate outside of the Republican headquarters to picket their candidate arriving from out of town
• Screening calls for the busy Dem execs before the election
• Pollwatching for 15 hours on Tuesday.

with all due respect, I have asked many times , since chris was at dfa to get training. nada, but can u send money.

hey I myself did all u said without dfa. thanks a lot.

I can give u this info and more.

arranging and joining a rally is kind of basic guys if you have a candidate.

how about bringing lunch.

dissapointing from my dfa page.

it is the local commiittees that will do it.

sad.

um, aj, while I like your optimism, it is basic voter turnout.

I am dissapointed if that is al dfa was offering for locals.

and you are going to spend important time picketing a rival candidate? that is not so good and a waste of time.

good grief.

linda b

good grief.

Aren't you cranky tonight~

they are all whoresl.

and if u want to know what I am talking about. go to a vfw hall or american legion hall. old guys, drink a lot and that is about all. oh, and maybe bingo. that is what is left of the greatest generation.

 linda b
Mon, 11/27/06
8:10 pm

First you make racist remarks against African Americans, and now you are denegrating WWII veterans.  You are despicable.

You need to go to a VFW hall, and thank the vets there for saving the world from fascism.  And thank them for allowing you the opporotunity to be born in the free country (or perhaps be born at all).

You make me sick. 

sunlight
Mon, 11/27/06
8:27 pm

Don't worry, Linda B is obviously a nut.  Most of the stuff she posts here is the babblings of someone obviously off their rocker.  I usually ignore her.

Shut up, Troldek.

Sure hope that Pat in Colorado returns at some point.  I really enjoy her posts.

Sending prayers to Thankful and her brother. 

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
8:49 pm

CC, sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but JC has taken the position of blog nanny and has consigned you to "mini-nanny" status!  OH THE HORROR 

shut up, Troldek.

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
8:53 pm

Very original let's hear it again, since you have nothing to offer in terms of argument...come on...  

Cripes - I see the mini-taunter is back.

Later, folks.

mary vb
Mon, 11/27/06
8:55 pm

I believe she is actually now known as the mini-NANNY.

What a great lead post! Jolly good.
One thing I was proud to view from afar here at the BFA was the DFA Night School introduction and start up. Afar because I have had but the smallest glimpses by my own research and little apparent interest here at the BFA, although I suppose it's just the same - we're all watching. Good show DFA Night School.
To continue a thread with the lead post, on election day I encouraged a lot of people in a public private way. I think it worked very well. Some I had been provoking to think about engaging their bit of the franchise for many moon got a good dosing of *git yer self ta them thar poll station yonder* crack. Others with something entirely different. Republicans were addressed respectfully and with good reason to expect a Democrat sweet about to move from NE though the west by day break Wednesday. Everyone pretty much got a "we're taking our country back! ;-) One thing that was totally a gas was being all day on the RI / Mass boarder. A double whammy! Taking the Senate seat in RI or the Governorship in Mass.. Yearh!

Boo-Boo is here and ca't find a pic a nik basket without the brains of the outfit, Yogi

Just testing the photo-insert option on this computer... 

Thanks Rahm.
 

LindaB organized 42 precincts in VA and worked tirelessly for her candidate.  Her hard work on the ground and that of many others is what delivered a majority back to the Democrats.

What have YOU done Troldek?  Besides show up here to serve Troler.....and that's why your nickname is knee-pads. 

Boo-Boo is here and ca't find a pic a nik basket without the brains of the outfit, Yogi 

Yes, I note that on the rare occaision that he is here without Troler he really seems to flounder.  He seemed drunk the last time he was here...ranting about breast-feeding. 

{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Thankful's brother }}}}}}}}}}}}}

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
9:00 pm

 I'm not commenting on her dedication to volunteering, my point is that she makes denegrating statements toward blacks and veterans and I won't let it stand.  And frankly I'm not too pleased others here give her a pass.

You need to go to a VFW hall, and thank the vets there for saving the world from fascism.  And thank them for allowing you the opporotunity to be born in the free country (or perhaps be born at all).

You make me sick. 

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Holdek,

If there is any thanking to be given from saving the world against fascism, it should be number one to the British people who were fighting, alone primarily the nazis...with special kudos to those brave RAF boys and Royal Navy chaps..... and many thanks to those canadian flyers as well.............special thanks to the russians, who beat back hitler and lost THE most number of men in WW2..............many times throwing rocks and sticks at them.......Your country,a lthough kind enough to ship the England food, weapons and broke us with lend lease................debated and played around with entry into WW2 for a good 3 years and were it not for the idiotic attack on pearl harbour chances are it probabaly would not have entered it........

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
9:02 pm

CC.

I know that most mainstream sentiment probably seems to you to be "drunk."  Take a step back from the far-left way of seeing things and get some perspective and it won't seem so strange to you. 

31.

Hol Dek

> Rahm's better'n Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas)
any ol' day.

Michael Ellis
Mon, 11/27/06
9:06 pm

I'm just curious, can you clarify for once what country you belong to?  You seem to sort of switch between American/British/Australian depending on your mood.

As for your comments, none of it refutes the fact that it was America's involvement that won WWII for the allies, and it is the veterans who deserve the thanks.  It's not good form to bite the hands that built this country, and protected it. 

And frankly I'm not too pleased others here give her a pass.=

What must we do to assure you that noone here give a flying fig what you think about anything?

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The motion passed by 266 votes to 16 with support from opposition MPs.

PM Stephen Harper proposed the motion last week as a safeguard against separatism, and to seek reconciliation with the separatist Bloc Quebecois.

Being cranky often helps to get things done.

Imn2Paine
Mon, 11/27/06
9:09 pm

That's very very true.  Cornyn is a dim bulb. 

Appearing on MSNBC this afternoon, Congressional Quarterly political analyst Craig Crawford speculated that, as “neocons are heading for the hills,” Dick Cheney may be the next to leave the administration. He claimed the Vice President’s “authority is waning, if not gone.” “And my point is why would he want to stick around in this environment?” he asked. “All I’m seeing is a man getting isolated more and more.”

♥ Thankful ♥ Rene ♥

Just occurred to me.....we lost Pat in Colorado and I can't help but wonder if that 100% ignore policy would actually work?

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
9:10 pm

It's remarkable CC that you repeatedly say this and yet are always engaging me here, wanting me to give my opinions on things, responding to my posts with your agreements and disagreements.  I think you need to figure out what you really want from this relationship, lol. 

‘Rumsfeld’s Leaving Is Just The Beginning,’ Cheney Might Be Next

Too little to late to save B.....ass in history.

must be a bit of a bummer having two poor Senators like Texas

Just testing the photo-insert option on this computer...

Texas needs to return to two party rule.

"and yet are always engaging me here, wanting me to give my opinions on things,"==

Nah, not really.  *usually* I mock and deride you. 

and the question was rhetorical;) 

I have to say Texas has to be a better place than the face it puts forward to the nation with Bush and the Senators.

Yes, a state that produces a group like the Asylum Street Spankers can't be all bad.

 It's not good form to bite the hands that built this country, and protected it. 

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Holdek,

BUILT it.......how about who founded it......gave it a system of government......a flag........hell you eevn stole an olde Scottish pub song tune for a national anthem..................you can thank the many slaves and imigrants too that built it friend...................you cna thank the early Europeans who came here and survived disease, Indians ,etc

I think its YOU that can thank Europe for allowing bases on theor soil for 60 years now and counting..................much to the protest of the natives...................

It isn't the best side of the body Texas displays in Bush and the two Senators in Washington DC.  Rather, Phil, it their ass that's on show. 

it = it's

I think its YOU that can thank Europe for allowing bases on theor soil for 60 years now and counting..................much to the protest of the natives...................

Nonsense, like the rest of your post.  The bases on their soil was the line between them and the Soviet Union.  Why do you think they were built there?  You need to read some history.

 And so which is it, which country are you from?  Are you anti-American or do you have a legitimate reason for acting like a foreigner?

I'm not in construction fitness, just had a leg cramp from working cement today. The plant had a new bull float with a three section handle they loaned me and that is a bit far from the work.

actuary tables say Social Security retirement age should be raised a year or two but if a guy works construction til he's 65 his body has done it's work

Phil,
Don't I know it. I'm sitting here with two herniated discs that they don't want to operate on because I'm a diabetic. 28 years of running heavy equipment, building stone walls and cutting trees definatly takes its toll.

Those in Congress seem to favor the dollar over humanity.

Mike-loved your pbj recipe;)!

Reed

I'm on my ninth life and didn't even know I was a cat. I'm determined to stick it out as long as I can. (hopefully 65) I can't figure out how to pay health insurance without working. I apy workman's comp for my employees and hope I never have a disability claim.

Employers need mandates or they (I) would cut corners.

Should a man work all his life good, hard, and true for poverty in the end?

Should a man work all his life good, hard, and true for poverty in the end?==

of course not...that's why we ae FDR/JFK/RFK Democrats:) 

Very nice analysis.  We'll have to see how things play out of course but that is all very plausible.  ...

Hello:

Sorry I missed your post, but found it in my search...I think this was for me!  I've been out making sure we keep peace in our little slice of heaven!    Over the last four months we have adopted some new tactics, particularly at night which more or less have drastically reduced sniping attacks and IED's.  Plus we not longer tolerate any stray gunfire.  We pretty much engage all comers now and run them to ground.  But "my friend" usually goes out at night with the patrols and see how things are going!

If I had to bet right now I would say that the most likely Dem nominee has to be considered to be HRC.  But I would bet that only on "the sure thing"....I wouldnt bet it on how I see things are shaping up.

HRC is great on points...technical points.  She is a good debater as long as she has no one on the platform who can speak from the heart.  I really believe that HRC believes things (to paraphrase PIlate..."what are beliefs") but she has a hard time against someone who 'really believes" them.  Edwards is going to come across I think as someone who really believes what he is saying.  I think a long way toward that has been his evolution on how he voted in the Iraq thing. 

Obama's big problem is two fold.  1) he has to find staff that he can organize into a coherent group.  This will be very hard because HRC will get the Named talent.  What he is going to have to do is find some "Leo's, Josh, Tobey, etc" (have fun cC) who are not really well known but who are ready for graduation...and organize them into a coherent group...that is non trivial.  2) he is going to have to define himself before others define him.  Right now he has the "Dean character"...ie he is all things to everyone who wants to find someone who is not somenamed candidate. 

Can he do that?  The odds are against him.  Bill Clinton barely did it and Clinton is/was an outstanding politican.  Is OBAMA that good?  Who knows.

Edwards has the experience behind him in this cycle.  Experience that will I think prove very helpful to him

Plus, and I'll just say this  While I think that there are a lot in the party "happy" with Hillary.  I dont think that there is more then 10 percent excited about her.

Robert

 Employers need mandates or they (I) would cut corners.

Phil

I heard this past week end that American farmers are putting down roots in Brazil.

jc...."ae"

yes, I meant "are".....LOL! 

debated and played around with entry into WW2 for a good 3 years ....

PLEASE stay away from history.

First it was the US won the REvolution in 1776, then it was the US CV which is really a Soviet but now Chinese CV...and now it is this.

WW2 broke out in Sept 1939, the US entered in DEC 41 at best that is 2 years a three months.

Mike you dont know a fracken thing about history or the military.

Robert

paine

I know two guys with operations in Brazil.

It isn't easy turning a profit there. The world food supply does run on two cylinders now and needs a crop in each hemispere to keep going between harvests.

Wheat stocks are the lowest in decades.

Phil, very similar circumstances with me. I did a backflip with a dump truck going about 40 mph backwards down an icy hill, had the wing on the road grader fall and hit a stump while I was plowing that sent the grader crossways in the road and bent the solid steel wing tower in a U. Inhaled welding fumes all winter long for many years because of no ventilation. Ran over two snowplows when I hit thawed spots in the road, one time looking straight up as the plow was pointing straight down. We used to put our dump truck tail gates up by ourselves, you were expected to. Now, it takes two or three of our weary bodies to do it. And now all the co-pays for my physical theraphy and chiropractic are draining me.

 linda b
Mon, 11/27/06
8:10 pm

Has this post been yanked!  Thank goodness if it has.  That was the most uncalled for hate speech that I have read on this blog...and that is saying a lot.

Robert

Brazil is much more technologically advanced in ethanol production, a Brazil type plant is being built in Iowa that will produce 130 million gallons a year.

Rocky Jones
Mon, 11/27/06
9:42 pm 

x)  Over the last four months we have adopted some new tactics, particularly at night which more or less have drastically reduced sniping attacks and IED's.  Plus we not longer tolerate any stray gunfire.

>  Very cool.  That's sounds encouraging.  And results too.  Makes sense.

y)  As for HRC, Edwards, and Obama not to mention all the others...

>  I hope to see them engage each other as did the Democrat contenders for Massachusetts Governorship and all but the Republican nominee in the various debates leading to the election.   No cat scratches and subsequent fevers.  Civil. 

...Nader probably should have been allowed to debate with the other nominees before the general in 2000.

Reed

I've had two of those big sled rides and one episode of straight up and down.

Still don't know why they call gravity a "weak" force in physics class.

when I get into something with gravity like tipping a skid steer I get out the "oh sh .." but never the last two letters

Back pain relief:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong

Qigong (Simplified Chinese: 气功; Traditional Chinese: 氣功; pinyin: qìgōng; Wade-Giles: ch'i4 kung1; Thai: ชี่กง) or "Energy-Cultivation", is an aspect of Chinese medicine involving the coordination of different breathing patterns with various physical postures and motions of the body. Qigong is mostly taught for health maintenance purposes, but there are also some who teach it as a therapeutic intervention. Various forms of traditional qigong are also widely taught in conjunction with Chinese martial arts, and are especially prevalent in the advanced training of what are known as the Neijia (Chinese: 內家; pinyin: nèi jīa; Wade-Giles: nei4 chia1), or internal martial arts.

Something has to be done regarding health care. I have high hopes for Vermont as we now have a veto-proof House. The blue wave that swept across America didn't rid us of our red Governor but it doesn't matter. I'm only 50 and can retire at 55 but won't have insurance so I've got my fingers crossed that something happens here in the next few years.

Nope.  It's still there.  Suddenly you don't like free speech? 

Something has to be done regarding health care. I have high hopes for Vermont as we now have a veto-proof House. The blue wave that swept across America didn't rid us of our red Governor but it doesn't matter. I'm only 50 and can retire at 55 but won't have insurance so I've got my fingers crossed that something happens here in the next few years.

back pain

find a doorway and position one leg and then the other in a 90 degree angle with back flat on floor, minimum of 60 seconds at a time alternating back and forth with hip slightly past door

ignore spouse's snide remark about scuffing wall

............. saving the world against fascism.............

British people ... RAF boys and Royal Navy chaps..... and many thanks to those canadian flyers as well.............special thanks to the russians, who beat back hitler and lost THE most number of men in WW2..............many times throwing rocks and sticks at them.......[(America)  was] kind enough to ship the England food, weapons and broke us with lend lease

>  All that won the war.  Group effort like you say.

...Nader probably should have been allowed to debate with the other nominees before the general in 2000.

I wouldnt have let him in.  Perot yes...Nader no.

Robert

Reed

We went all the way, both houses, plus Governor and we are going to start with pools and catastrophic expense picked up by the state.

I think employer mandates are the way to go and if all are in the pools it should be near the same cost as single payer. Still leaves the same population in medicaid. 

back pain

find a doorway ...

ignore spouse's snide remark about scuffing wall

>  Phil, sounds like what a bear would do to scratch it's back.  I hear what your wife says.

Don't know how that double post happened, must be when I was checking out the info Paine sent. Lifestyle changes have helped, my wife even has me eating soy products. I also have an exercise similar but using the arm of the couch. It stretches the lower back allowing space between the vertabrae for the discs to return to.

Packer update please?

for those of us who don't pay for cable (sorry Ned).

Rocky Jones
Mon, 11/27/06
9:42 pm

You may want to check out this article, it talks about Obama doing some preliminary work setting up a staff in Iowa. 

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061126/NEWS09/611260332

14 to 12 GB

LSU Tigers are now number 5 in the ranking. I wouldn't want to meet them in a bowl.

the Packers ... another story paine

Phil,
NH did the all blue also, first time since the 1870's I think.

http://www.ymaa.com/

www.nfl.com

Thanks Denise

14-12 Green Bay on top!  Wooow.

Phil, Wisconsin is #7.  Think they are going to the Capital One Bowl.  Big pay day, fer sure.  Badger  fans will be half the stadium.  5 vs 7 sounds like a party.

Phil,
A candidate running for Vermont Senate a few years back showed how we could insure all Vermonters for the monies that are being spent now. He won as a Representative this time around and I think his plan is very similar to what you are describing.

You may want to check out this article, it talks about Obama doing some preliminary work setting up a staff in Iowa. ....

That was an entertaining article.  If Obama runs it will be interesting to see who he pulls from the farm club to make his leads in the race for the imperium. 

The issue that Obama is going to have problems on is the situation in Iraq.  I think I see where HRC is going with this.  Obama is going to have to walk a pretty entertaining line.   Sounding like a real person and yet keeping the "beloved" on board.  As you can see with the on again off again Obama love affair "here" that is not easy to do.

Who has screwed the answers up in Iraq up for everyone is Bush.

I realize that I am in the minority here, but my read on the 06 election is that people in the country are tired of "simple" answers that have no real basis in reality. 

That is true for how we got into this thing AND how we get the thing to stabilize.  If someone just says "cut and run" they are going to die a Lamont death.  IE someone else (in this case HRC) is going to pound them with what the "reality" will be of "just leaving".  And the result of that is going to be a lot of the semi sophisticates in the party saying "we have seen the McGovern show, we dont like it"...because Lamont is a rewind of McGovern.

That has killed Al Gore running.  It also has killed Russ F.  I think that there will be a few more casualties along the way. 

Its a joyous life!

Robert

Phil, A candidate running for Vermont Senate a few years back showed how we could insure all Vermonters for the monies that are being spent now. ....

oh yeah, its all free reaqlly it is, absolutly, no more cost.

Robert

21-12 GB

If someone just says "cut and run" they are going to die a Lamont death. ==

Nope.  The war cost them their majority.  Iraq is done, dude.  Deal with it.

We may not leave next month....but we're leaving.  Bet we're *outta there* before the 08 election is in high gear.... 

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No, thank you, Arshad, and thank you, DFA Night School creators, contributors, and financial supporters.  DFA Night School gave me the optimism and skills to work making calls for DFA and (later at night, into the SW and West coast from FL) MoveOn.  At the local level, I became reacquainted with another cross-cultural (MoveOn and traditional Democratic precinct working) Dem at Dem headquarters, who I met when we delivered a MoveOn petition to pressure our local Repug Rep to fire Tom DeLay.  As the election neared, I helped local Dems various ways:

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Peace is first, damm*t

ok..i believe i have actually found a link the the peace wreath in question....


http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/lo...

From HEP:my sister just called with some not so good news on my brother. the other day I showed my mom the candle page and told her how many of you were sending well wishes and prayers. she got on the phone for a minute and asked me to ask 'the bloggers' if they would keep on praying.
Thankful | 11.27.06 - 6:21 pm | # ***********************Here is his candle page:http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=T2T4D  

I just lit a candle for Thankful's brother.  I don't know what if anything will help, but it certainly can't hurt.  And if it helps the family feel better, then why not?   Let's fill up the whole page with light.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=T2T4D

From last thread 

78.

Thankful2Thankful4Dean
Mon, 11/27/06
6:13 pm

my sister just called with some not so good news on my brother. the other day I showed my mom the candle page and told her how many of you were sending well wishes and prayers. she got on the phone for a minute and asked me to ask 'the bloggers' if they would keep on praying.

 ------------------------------------------------

I know you are such a caring and loving community of bloggers and so I personally ask for your prayers and good vibes not only for Renee (Thankfuls's brother) but for Thankful. She has been through so very much since last Tuesday, even though the Thanksgiving dinner went well last night with puddle, my son and daughter-in-law, their neice and myself. Se is a wonderful cook and puts out a helping hand for everyone in need. Thankful took  puddle to miniapolis this morning and cameback here, but now has a migrane. I can't imaging how much that must hurt. the slighest light, sound or movement causes her pain right now. Sooo, please give her your good vibs, your energy and your prayers for her migrane and the strength she will need in the coming week as her brothers diagnosis becomes more clear.

I love you all and hope you will hold together in the tough times as well as the easy.

bob xoxo 

My mistake, the last post was me ... bob

I lent puddle my laptop while she was here and she left it logged in.

Love ya,

bob 

    Makes a really nice Holiday Gift!   

Here's the link

http://teocawki.blogspot.com 

Pagosa Springs Colorado homeowners are battling over whether a Christmas wreath that includes a peace sign is an anti-Iraq war protest or even a promotion of Satan.

PUH-LEEEEEEZE!!! 

sheesh! 

http://teocawki.blogspot.com

I only hope the owner in Colorado with the questionable wreath, asks the complainers if they feel Christ doesn't believe in PEACE.


P E A C E

God is a Liberal

Now, that's enough religion, because as we see, too many are hypocrits.

Subway,

when i click buy now I get an error message:

"Some required information is missing or incomplete. Please correct your entries and try again. "

Make great stocking stuffer for my sisters and friends.

Peace,

bob 

bob

mustering maximum goodwill and love Thankfuls way

the Dean community is a caring bunch and it always helps to know there are people there for you when you are down

I'll be going by your way again soon and I always wave up at the turn. I'll buy you and thankful lunch one of these times if we can link up. There is a pizza place out 14 by the theaters that my grandaughter likes

sitka,

Perhaps the board president in Colorado would have been ok with it if hat had been a rendered Iraqi shoplifter. 

Phil Specht
Mon, 11/27/06
8:01 pm

Phil,

That would be great. Give a holler any time. I'm home the rest of the week.

I hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Mine with Thankful and puddle was wonderful. Have a picture of usenjoying, but Thankful and Puddle don't want it posted ... not the right profile I guess.

Jusst got a call from puddle ... she is safe and sound in Baltimore and will be heading back to WV early tomorrow afternood.  

blessings to all,

bob 

• Recruiting phone bankers, encouraging them with information I learned in DFA Night School
• Recruiting drivers for rides to polling places
• Arranging and joining a rally to support our statewide candidate outside of the Republican headquarters to picket their candidate arriving from out of town
• Screening calls for the busy Dem execs before the election
• Pollwatching for 15 hours on Tuesday.

with all due respect, I have asked many times , since chris was at dfa to get training. nada, but can u send money.

hey I myself did all u said without dfa. thanks a lot.

I can give u this info and more.

arranging and joining a rally is kind of basic guys if you have a candidate.

how about bringing lunch.

dissapointing from my dfa page.

it is the local commiittees that will do it.

sad.

um, aj, while I like your optimism, it is basic voter turnout.

I am dissapointed if that is al dfa was offering for locals.

and you are going to spend important time picketing a rival candidate? that is not so good and a waste of time.

good grief.

linda b

good grief.

Aren't you cranky tonight~

they are all whoresl.

and if u want to know what I am talking about. go to a vfw hall or american legion hall. old guys, drink a lot and that is about all. oh, and maybe bingo. that is what is left of the greatest generation.

 linda b
Mon, 11/27/06
8:10 pm

First you make racist remarks against African Americans, and now you are denegrating WWII veterans.  You are despicable.

You need to go to a VFW hall, and thank the vets there for saving the world from fascism.  And thank them for allowing you the opporotunity to be born in the free country (or perhaps be born at all).

You make me sick. 

sunlight
Mon, 11/27/06
8:27 pm

Don't worry, Linda B is obviously a nut.  Most of the stuff she posts here is the babblings of someone obviously off their rocker.  I usually ignore her.

Shut up, Troldek.  

Sure hope that Pat in Colorado returns at some point.  I really enjoy her posts.

Sending prayers to Thankful and her brother. 

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
8:49 pm

CC, sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but JC has taken the position of blog nanny and has consigned you to "mini-nanny" status!  OH THE HORROR 

shut up, Troldek.  

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
8:53 pm

Very original let's hear it again, since you have nothing to offer in terms of argument...come on...  

Cripes - I see the mini-taunter is back.

Later, folks.

mary vb
Mon, 11/27/06
8:55 pm

I believe she is actually now known as the mini-NANNY.

What a great lead post! Jolly good.
One thing I was proud to view from afar here at the BFA was the DFA Night School introduction and start up. Afar because I have had but the smallest glimpses by my own research and little apparent interest here at the BFA, although I suppose it's just the same - we're all watching. Good show DFA Night School.
To continue a thread with the lead post, on election day I encouraged a lot of people in a public private way. I think it worked very well. Some I had been provoking to think about engaging their bit of the franchise for many moon got a good dosing of *git yer self ta them thar poll station yonder* crack. Others with something entirely different. Republicans were addressed respectfully and with good reason to expect a Democrat sweet about to move from NE though the west by day break Wednesday. Everyone pretty much got a "we're taking our country back! ;-) One thing that was totally a gas was being all day on the RI / Mass boarder. A double whammy! Taking the Senate seat in RI or the Governorship in Mass.. Yearh!

Boo-Boo is here and ca't find a pic a nik basket without the brains of the outfit, Yogi  

Just testing the photo-insert option on this computer... 

Thanks Rahm.
 

LindaB organized 42 precincts in VA and worked tirelessly for her candidate.  Her hard work on the ground and that of many others is what delivered a majority back to the Democrats.

What have YOU done Troldek?  Besides show up here to serve Troler.....and that's why your nickname is knee-pads. 

Boo-Boo is here and ca't find a pic a nik basket without the brains of the outfit, Yogi 

Yes, I note that on the rare occaision that he is here without Troler he really seems to flounder.  He seemed drunk the last time he was here...ranting about breast-feeding. 

{{{{{{{{{{{{{ Thankful's brother }}}}}}}}}}}}}

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
9:00 pm

 I'm not commenting on her dedication to volunteering, my point is that she makes denegrating statements toward blacks and veterans and I won't let it stand.  And frankly I'm not too pleased others here give her a pass.

You need to go to a VFW hall, and thank the vets there for saving the world from fascism.  And thank them for allowing you the opporotunity to be born in the free country (or perhaps be born at all).

You make me sick. 

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Holdek,

If there is any thanking to be given from saving the world against fascism, it should be number one to the British people who were fighting, alone primarily the nazis...with special kudos to those brave RAF boys and Royal Navy chaps..... and many thanks to those canadian flyers as well.............special thanks to the russians, who beat back hitler and lost THE most number of men in WW2..............many times throwing rocks and sticks at them.......Your country,a lthough kind enough to ship the England food, weapons and broke us with lend lease................debated and played around with entry into WW2 for a good 3 years and were it not for the idiotic attack on pearl harbour chances are it probabaly would not have entered it........

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
9:02 pm

CC.

I know that most mainstream sentiment probably seems to you to be "drunk."  Take a step back from the far-left way of seeing things and get some perspective and it won't seem so strange to you. 

31.

Hol Dek

> Rahm's better'n Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas)
any ol' day.

Michael Ellis
Mon, 11/27/06
9:06 pm

I'm just curious, can you clarify for once what country you belong to?  You seem to sort of switch between American/British/Australian depending on your mood.

As for your comments, none of it refutes the fact that it was America's involvement that won WWII for the allies, and it is the veterans who deserve the thanks.  It's not good form to bite the hands that built this country, and protected it. 

And frankly I'm not too pleased others here give her a pass.=

What must we do to assure you that noone here give a flying fig what you think about anything?

BBC: Last Updated: Tuesday, 28 November 2006, 02:06 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version Canada backs Quebec's nationhood Mr Harper's motion is largely symbolicCanada's parliament has backed a government motion recognising Quebec as a nation within a united Canada.

The motion passed by 266 votes to 16 with support from opposition MPs.

PM Stephen Harper proposed the motion last week as a safeguard against separatism, and to seek reconciliation with the separatist Bloc Quebecois.

Being cranky often helps to get things done.  

Imn2Paine
Mon, 11/27/06
9:09 pm

That's very very true.  Cornyn is a dim bulb. 

CQ Analyst Suggests ‘Rumsfeld’s Leaving Is Just The Beginning,’ Cheney Might Be Next »

Appearing on MSNBC this afternoon, Congressional Quarterly political analyst Craig Crawford speculated that, as “neocons are heading for the hills,” Dick Cheney may be the next to leave the administration. He claimed the Vice President’s “authority is waning, if not gone.” “And my point is why would he want to stick around in this environment?” he asked. “All I’m seeing is a man getting isolated more and more.”

♥ Thankful ♥ Rene ♥  

Just occurred to me.....we lost Pat in Colorado and I can't help but wonder if that 100% ignore policy would actually work?  

*** cChalfonte***
Mon, 11/27/06
9:10 pm

It's remarkable CC that you repeatedly say this and yet are always engaging me here, wanting me to give my opinions on things, responding to my posts with your agreements and disagreements.  I think you need to figure out what you really want from this relationship, lol. 

‘Rumsfeld’s Leaving Is Just The Beginning,’ Cheney Might Be Next

Too little to late to save B.....ass in history.

must be a bit of a bummer having two poor Senators like Texas  

Just testing the photo-insert option on this computer...

Texas needs to return to two party rule.  

"and yet are always engaging me here, wanting me to give my opinions on things,"==

Nah, not really.  *usually* I mock and deride you. 

and the question was rhetorical;) 

I have to say Texas has to be a better place than the face it puts forward to the nation with Bush and the Senators.

Yes, a state that produces a group like the Asylum Street Spankers can't be all bad.  

 It's not good form to bite the hands that built this country, and protected it. 

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Holdek,

BUILT it.......how about who founded it......gave it a system of government......a flag........hell you eevn stole an olde Scottish pub song tune for a national anthem..................you can thank the many slaves and imigrants too that built it friend...................you cna thank the early Europeans who came here and survived disease, Indians ,etc

I think its YOU that can thank Europe for allowing bases on theor soil for 60 years now and counting..................much to the protest of the natives...................

It isn't the best side of the body Texas displays in Bush and the two Senators in Washington DC.  Rather, Phil, it their ass that's on show.   

it = it's  

I think its YOU that can thank Europe for allowing bases on theor soil for 60 years now and counting..................much to the protest of the natives...................

Nonsense, like the rest of your post.  The bases on their soil was the line between them and the Soviet Union.  Why do you think they were built there?  You need to read some history.

 And so which is it, which country are you from?  Are you anti-American or do you have a legitimate reason for acting like a foreigner?

I'm not in construction fitness, just had a leg cramp from working cement today. The plant had a new bull float with a three section handle they loaned me and that is a bit far from the work.

actuary tables say Social Security retirement age should be raised a year or two but if a guy works construction til he's 65 his body has done it's work

Phil, Don't I know it. I'm sitting here with two herniated discs that they don't want to operate on because I'm a diabetic. 28 years of running heavy equipment, building stone walls and cutting trees definatly takes its toll.  

Those in Congress seem to favor the dollar over humanity.  

Reed

I'm on my ninth life and didn't even know I was a cat. I'm determined to stick it out as long as I can. (hopefully 65) I can't figure out how to pay health insurance without working. I apy workman's comp for my employees and hope I never have a disability claim.

Employers need mandates or they (I) would cut corners.

Mike-loved your pbj recipe;)!  

Should a man work all his life good, hard, and true for poverty in the end?  

Should a man work all his life good, hard, and true for poverty in the end?==

of course not...that's why we ae FDR/JFK/RFK Democrats:) 

Hol Dek
Mon, 11/27/06
4:49 pm

Reply to this

Very nice analysis.  We'll have to see how things play out of course but that is all very plausible.  ...

Hello:

Sorry I missed your post, but found it in my search...I think this was for me!  I've been out making sure we keep peace in our little slice of heaven!    Over the last four months we have adopted some new tactics, particularly at night which more or less have drastically reduced sniping attacks and IED's.  Plus we not longer tolerate any stray gunfire.  We pretty much engage all comers now and run them to ground.  But "my friend" usually goes out at night with the patrols and see how things are going!

If I had to bet right now I would say that the most likely Dem nominee has to be considered to be HRC.  But I would bet that only on "the sure thing"....I wouldnt bet it on how I see things are shaping up.

HRC is great on points...technical points.  She is a good debater as long as she has no one on the platform who can speak from the heart.  I really believe that HRC believes things (to paraphrase PIlate..."what are beliefs") but she has a hard time against someone who 'really believes" them.  Edwards is going to come across I think as someone who really believes what he is saying.  I think a long way toward that has been his evolution on how he voted in the Iraq thing. 

Obama's big problem is two fold.  1) he has to find staff that he can organize into a coherent group.  This will be very hard because HRC will get the Named talent.  What he is going to have to do is find some "Leo's, Josh, Tobey, etc" (have fun cC) who are not really well known but who are ready for graduation...and organize them into a coherent group...that is non trivial.  2) he is going to have to define himself before others define him.  Right now he has the "Dean character"...ie he is all things to everyone who wants to find someone who is not somenamed candidate. 

Can he do that?  The odds are against him.  Bill Clinton barely did it and Clinton is/was an outstanding politican.  Is OBAMA that good?  Who knows.

Edwards has the experience behind him in this cycle.  Experience that will I think prove very helpful to him

Plus, and I'll just say this  While I think that there are a lot in the party "happy" with Hillary.  I dont think that there is more then 10 percent excited about her.

Robert

 Employers need mandates or they (I) would cut corners.

Phil

I heard this past week end that American farmers are putting down roots in Brazil.

jc...."ae"

yes, I meant "are".....LOL! 

Michael Ellis
Mon, 11/27/06
9:06 pm

debated and played around with entry into WW2 for a good 3 years ....

PLEASE stay away from history.

First it was the US won the REvolution in 1776, then it was the US CV which is really a Soviet but now Chinese CV...and now it is this.

WW2 broke out in Sept 1939, the US entered in DEC 41 at best that is 2 years a three months.

Mike you dont know a fracken thing about history or the military.

Robert

paine

I know two guys with operations in Brazil.

It isn't easy turning a profit there. The world food supply does run on two cylinders now and needs a crop in each hemispere to keep going between harvests.

Wheat stocks are the lowest in decades.

Phil, very similar circumstances with me. I did a backflip with a dump truck going about 40 mph backwards down an icy hill, had the wing on the road grader fall and hit a stump while I was plowing that sent the grader crossways in the road and bent the solid steel wing tower in a U. Inhaled welding fumes all winter long for many years because of no ventilation. Ran over two snowplows when I hit thawed spots in the road, one time looking straight up as the plow was pointing straight down. We used to put our dump truck tail gates up by ourselves, you were expected to. Now, it takes two or three of our weary bodies to do it. And now all the co-pays for my physical theraphy and chiropractic are draining me.  

 linda b
Mon, 11/27/06
8:10 pm

Has this post been yanked!  Thank goodness if it has.  That was the most uncalled for hate speech that I have read on this blog...and that is saying a lot.

Robert

Brazil is much more technologically advanced in ethanol production, a Brazil type plant is being built in Iowa that will produce 130 million gallons a year.  

69.

Rocky Jones
Mon, 11/27/06
9:42 pm 

x)  Over the last four months we have adopted some new tactics, particularly at night which more or less have drastically reduced sniping attacks and IED's.  Plus we not longer tolerate any stray gunfire.

>  Very cool.  That's sounds encouraging.  And results too.  Makes sense.

y)  As for HRC, Edwards, and Obama not to mention all the others...

>  I hope to see them engage each other as did the Democrat contenders for Massachusetts Governorship and all but the Republican nominee in the various debates leading to the election.   No cat scratches and subsequent fevers.  Civil. 

...Nader probably should have been allowed to debate with the other nominees before the general in 2000.

Reed

I've had two of those big sled rides and one episode of straight up and down.

Still don't know why they call gravity a "weak" force in physics class.

when I get into something with gravity like tipping a skid steer I get out the "oh sh .." but never the last two letters

Back pain relief:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong

Qigong (Simplified Chinese: 气功; Traditional Chinese: 氣功; pinyin: qìgōng; Wade-Giles: ch'i4 kung1; Thai: ชี่กง) or "Energy-Cultivation", is an aspect of Chinese medicine involving the coordination of different breathing patterns with various physical postures and motions of the body. Qigong is mostly taught for health maintenance purposes, but there are also some who teach it as a therapeutic intervention. Various forms of traditional qigong are also widely taught in conjunction with Chinese martial arts, and are especially prevalent in the advanced training of what are known as the Neijia (Chinese: 內家; pinyin: nèi jīa; Wade-Giles: nei4 chia1), or internal martial arts.

Something has to be done regarding health care. I have high hopes for Vermont as we now have a veto-proof House. The blue wave that swept across America didn't rid us of our red Governor but it doesn't matter. I'm only 50 and can retire at 55 but won't have insurance so I've got my fingers crossed that something happens here in the next few years.  

75. Rocky Jones

Nope.  It's still there.  Suddenly you don't like free speech? 

Something has to be done regarding health care. I have high hopes for Vermont as we now have a veto-proof House. The blue wave that swept across America didn't rid us of our red Governor but it doesn't matter. I'm only 50 and can retire at 55 but won't have insurance so I've got my fingers crossed that something happens here in the next few years.  

back pain

find a doorway and position one leg and then the other in a 90 degree angle with back flat on floor, minimum of 60 seconds at a time alternating back and forth with hip slightly past door

ignore spouse's snide remark about scuffing wall

36.
Michael Ellis
Mon, 11/27/06
9:06 pm

............. saving the world against fascism.............

British people ... RAF boys and Royal Navy chaps..... and many thanks to those canadian flyers as well.............special thanks to the russians, who beat back hitler and lost THE most number of men in WW2..............many times throwing rocks and sticks at them.......[(America)  was] kind enough to ship the England food, weapons and broke us with lend lease

>  All that won the war.  Group effort like you say.

I wouldnt have let him in.  Perot yes...Nader no.

>  If Perot then Nader here. 

It isn't even about the personalities.  The people who would listen to Nader in a debate got screwed.  Independents were left wanting.  Look, Nader was likely to have an effect on the 2000 presidential end result.  Coulda shoulda woulda. 

Denise, are you the *Denise* who wrote the Peace Wreath thread?

Great idea, the wreath:) 

PREVIEW PLEASE!!

DOH!

81.
jc
Mon, 11/27/06
10:07 pm=========

woooh!!  Good one:) 

LOL Paine - second verse, same as the first ;)

Gore is still mulling it.

Tom Vilsack is announcing this week. (Thur.)

Wes Clark has the lead in Nevada, South Carolina is the state I would be focusing staff.

We elect a new Party Chair here this weekend and it is a job that demands neutrality.

With Harkin on the ballot we will have  Harkin Chair but the jostling is getting interesting. Edwards has the most current support. The party stucture are Vilsack loyalists but will give everyone a fair shot. Hillary will be in a fight for third here.

I'm skipping the meeting to go deer hunting since I don't have a dog in the fight. I've worked with seven Chairs and have gotten along with all of them and I trust the Committee to make a wise choice. A Presidential contender that tried to influence the elect of Chair would get the same treatment Carville just got.

If someone just says "cut and run" they are going to die a Lamont death. ==

Nope.  The war cost them their majority.  ...

I wasnt talking about the GOP, that is a different kettle of fish.

For the Dems what to do about Iraq is going to be the thing that splits the party into different factions.

As for leaving...LOL Dream on.

You are not very good at commenting on things until things are obvious...

Robert

Gore is still mulling it....

Mayhe, I doubt it.  With Lamonts death politically and RF checking out there might have been room for a Gore but Gore is no dummy.  He recognizes that the "progressive wing" of the party is an empty gong.  And if Obama gets in, then Gore has no where to run.

And probably no money.  I dont count much the polls now, but Clark leading would not be a good sign for the cut and run left.

Robert 

"second verse, same as the first "

Ha haha, that's true, Denise .

Congratulations to Judge Richard Posner for a very very intelligent discussion on the concept of criminal law, The Constitution, and terrorism. 

Judge Posner sits on the 7th Circuit and is a bright light.

Robert

 Gore

If he decides to serve, Gore's will be a good portfolio for a Democrat Administration to peruse for appointment. 

In many ways folks, who the next Democrat Administration showcases in Cabinet appointments is where I'm at in hope of 2008.

~ new thread~

sunlight
Mon, 11/27/06
8:27 pm

Don't worry, Linda B is obviously a nut.  Most of the stuff she posts here is the babblings of someone obviously off their rocker.  I usually ignore her.

and holdek is one of oler's compatriots. and what u say means nothing cause u do nothing.